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TexansFanatic
04-28-2012, 01:18 PM
Was projected as high as the third round.

No complaints on this pick from me.

Thoughts?

ArlingtonTexan
04-28-2012, 01:18 PM
return skills

toxictrix
04-28-2012, 01:18 PM
Kubes really really wants Jacoby gone. Hahaha

Thorn
04-28-2012, 01:18 PM
Strengths
Martin is good at varying his speed. He can make ridiculous moves with his feet while still running full speed. He is explosive when moving off the ball and gets to top speed very quickly. This is usually how he dials up his routes, as he is into them before the corner is even ready. He uses this same foot quickness to get open at the top of routes. He has the speed to be a deep threat at the next level. He will work a lot of screens looking to get behind blocks of bigger receivers outside.

Weaknesses
Martin is uninspired when it comes to blocking. Despite decent size, he isn't very strong and just looks completely uninvolved. The same can be said when going across the middle; he is unreliable with defenders draped around him and needs to be completely open to finish the play.

From the NFL draft analysis page.

Thorn
04-28-2012, 01:19 PM
LOL, three threads. Mods are gonna kill us. :lol:

Pantherstang84
04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
Kubes really really wants Jacoby gone. Hahaha

Absolutely.

ziggy29
04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
Kubes really really wants Jacoby gone. Hahaha

And Martin is projected to figure in the return game as well. That's a double bye-bye for Jacoby.

gtexan02
04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
Smallish for a WR at 5'11" and 180 pounds

Very productive:
"2008: (10/0) - 11-132-12 2009: (13/2) - 18-411-22.8-5 2010: (11/5) - 32-394-12.3-1 2011: (14/9) -- 66-777-11.8-4. Career (2008-'11) - 64 carries-540-8.4-3. 47 KORs-1,100-36.6-1. 65 PRs-659-10.1-2. "

Durability concerns:
"Missed most of the Northwestern, all of the Iowa and all of the Minnesota games with high ankle sprain in 2010. Missed the final two games of the 2008 season with a broken clavicle. Slight frame makes durability that much more of a concern."

Good intangibles:
Hard worker. Brings added value as a strong special teams contributor.

Separation Skills:
"Needs polish, especially in terms of setting up defenders. But has outstanding suddenness and has the potential to excel in this area. Can drive corners off the ball and threaten cushions quickly. Shows good suddenness and pop coming out of breaks and can separate from man coverage. Needs to do a better job of avoiding contact and become stronger as a route runner. Shows good awareness for soft spots working against zone coverage. "

Ball Skills
"Hands are a bit inconsistent. On one hand, flashes ability to snatch on the run. However, can allow too many throws to get into frame which can result in some drops. Lack of size and arm length (31 5/8) limits his catching radius but does show ability to elevate and pull in high throw. Shows adequate body control and flashes ability to open up and make tough catch outside of frame. Can struggle at times to find and track the deep ball. "

Big play ability
Possesses the top-end speed to take the top off of defenses. Also shows an extra gear to track down the deep ball. Top-end speed and quickness provides with the ability to create yards after the catch. Extremely dangerous when finding daylight and has the speed to ruin defenders angle in pursuit. Slippery as an open-field runner and can ward of arm tackle attempts. Lack of size and strength limits his ability to win one-on-one downfield battles. Dangerous returner on special teams with the vision and speed to exploit seams in the coverage.

Competitiveness
Though not a powerful open field runner he runs hard has enough balance to pick up some yards after contact. Willing to go over the middle and expose frame to big hit. Doesn't offer much as a blocker but flashes ability to get in position. Needs to be stronger with ball carriage as a runner and will allow ball to get away from frame in traffic.

All from http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/28673/keshawn-martin

G27RR
04-28-2012, 01:20 PM
Vertical guy, can replace Jacoby on returns. I like it, he was on my list. Fast, very athletic and he can get up there - 39.5" vertical!

Playoffs
04-28-2012, 01:21 PM
Great, great pick!!! :hurrah:

Greg Cosell loves this guy ..... one of his fave WRs.

Returns skills to replace Jacoby added bonus.

Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
#Texans @ 121. Keshawn Martin. @GregCosell fave. 5'11/188. 4.43 40. 18 career TDs, scored 5 different ways. PR & KR. Goodbye, Jacoby Jones.

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@gregcosell tells me Keshawn Martin can also play outside, but is best used in the slot.

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Very happy with Keyshawn Martin to Texans. Might be more game ready than Posey

DX-TEX
04-28-2012, 01:21 PM
AlanBurge I like the Martin pick. Speed, explosiveness. Return man. Jacoby is toast #texans 10 seconds ago · reply · retweet · favorite


So true

TexCanada
04-28-2012, 01:21 PM
I like this pick. I know people aren't big on Posey, but our WR depth is leaps and bounds better then it was last year.

Thorn
04-28-2012, 01:22 PM
Great, great pick!!!

Greg Cosell loves this guy ..... one of his fave WRs.

Returns skills to replace Jacoby added bonus.


Excellent. I'm liking this pick.

bckey
04-28-2012, 01:22 PM
I like the pick. Bye bye Jacoby.

The Cush
04-28-2012, 01:22 PM
Has a 76 rating on NFL.com.

Overview

Martin is an explosive mover who is quick off the snap. A two-year starter for Michigan State and productive after short catches, he can take a bubble screen the distance. Athletic enough to be the superior guy against most DBs. He is a very good speed-variance route runner who can keep corners on their heels and toes. He has fourth-round value.

Analysis

Strengths
Martin is good at varying his speed. He can make ridiculous moves with his feet while still running full speed. He is explosive when moving off the ball and gets to top speed very quickly. This is usually how he dials up his routes, as he is into them before the corner is even ready. He uses this same foot quickness to get open at the top of routes. He has the speed to be a deep threat at the next level. He will work a lot of screens looking to get behind blocks of bigger receivers outside.

Weaknesses
Martin is uninspired when it comes to blocking. Despite decent size, he isn't very strong and just looks completely uninvolved. The same can be said when going across the middle; he is unreliable with defenders draped around him and needs to be completely open to finish the play.

rmartin65
04-28-2012, 01:23 PM
Dont love it, dont hate it. He pushes JJ out the door, but I dont think he becomes anything more than a 4th, maybe 3rd, receiver. Solid pick, but not one that I would have made (sorry TK).

Brando
04-28-2012, 01:29 PM
Keyshawn Martin (http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/profiles/keshawn-martin?id=2532900)

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d827cb4b2/2012-Combine-workout-Keshawn-Martin


I like this pick. JJ, time to clean out your locker.

DocBar
04-28-2012, 01:35 PM
I'm liking this draft more and more. Still don't like the the Posey pick, but don't absolutely hate it, either. I'm willing to wait and see.

Corrosion
04-28-2012, 01:53 PM
Kubes really really wants Jacoby gone. Hahaha

Who doesnt ?!


Dont you dare post that ****ing gif.

Yankee_In_TX
04-28-2012, 01:55 PM
Kubes really really wants Jacoby gone. Hahaha

#fact

phantom17
04-28-2012, 01:57 PM
I'm starting to like this pick! Another good value in the 4th rd!:bravo:

TimeKiller
04-28-2012, 02:05 PM
This guy will do what Jacoby Jones was supposed to do.

Thorn
04-28-2012, 02:05 PM
This guy will do what Jacoby Jones was supposed to do.

And do it cheaper. :lol:

Porky
04-28-2012, 02:10 PM
https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQMTpebuH5UOM9aqyRYvSCqSaQugfvmd BfjGe1oEpXTj70QjUfy9A

Nah Nah Nah Nah......Nah, Nah, Nah Nah, Hey Hey Hey Goodbye!

:cutthroat::clap:

:BananaWav

False Start
04-28-2012, 02:37 PM
Don't let the door hit ya!

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/jjbf3.jpg

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/nojacobypng.png

:littlelol:

76Texan
04-28-2012, 02:52 PM
Good pick.
A chain mover besides return duties.
Somehow I had envisioned this guy in a Texans uni.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2012, 02:57 PM
I think the thing with these two WRs is that they seem to both be good route runners and have developed route trees and if we want a WR to come in and play straight away that is about the most important skill there is.

houstonspartan
04-28-2012, 03:09 PM
Just got a text from a buddy: "Congrats. You finally got a Spartan."

I've been busy today and had no clue.

Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!

I feel like a kid on Christmas morning.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2012, 03:26 PM
Just got a text from a buddy: "Congrats. You finally got a Spartan."

I've been busy today and had no clue.

Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!
Spartan!

I feel like a kid on Christmas morning.

I feel the same way about my Husker.

The1ApplePie
04-28-2012, 03:32 PM
So

Posey replaces Walter
Martin replaces LOLoby Jones

DBCooper
04-28-2012, 03:36 PM
This guy will do what Jacoby Jones was supposed to do.

What?

Catch the ball and move the chains?

MannyFresh
04-28-2012, 04:13 PM
I'm stoked about having a player named Keyshawn.....its one of those "football" names that sound cool.

ObsiWan
04-28-2012, 04:28 PM
Good pick.
A chain mover besides return duties.
Somehow I had envisioned this guy in a Texans uni.

It's probably a given Martin will return punts. But do you think he will (or should) take over D. Manning's kickoff return duties?? Manning is pretty dang good at it you know; and he loves doing it....

:thinking:

EllisUnit
04-28-2012, 05:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQWaPMly14E

go to the 7:30 minutes into the video, tell me that isnt pretty damn impressive, although u have to have 2 feet in the NFL.

imatexan
04-28-2012, 05:41 PM
I will love this pick if he replaces JJ and doesn't make the boneheaded mistakes JJ did.

Rey
04-28-2012, 06:01 PM
This guy should make a good slot WR...

That's something that we don't have.

TheMatrix31
04-28-2012, 06:06 PM
Just briefly scanning this thread, he sounds like a DeSean Jackson-like player.

ziggy29
04-28-2012, 06:11 PM
It's probably a given Martin will return punts. But do you think he will (or should) take over D. Manning's kickoff return duties?? Manning is pretty dang good at it you know; and he loves doing it....

Of course, since they moved the kickoff back up to the 35 and there are a heck of a lot more touchbacks now, it's probably not as critical as punt returning.

BattleRedRock
04-28-2012, 06:23 PM
Dont love it, dont hate it. He pushes JJ out the door, but I dont think he becomes anything more than a 4th, maybe 3rd, receiver. Solid pick, but not one that I would have made (sorry TK).

i dont care if they woulda drafted another water boy to play receiver, if it gets jacoby jones outta here! then i absolutely love this pick! besides he was obviously just scouted and picked based on his ability to cleanly consistantly catch footballs for the return game and is noted for taking some to the house im good with that

CloakNNNdagger
04-28-2012, 06:52 PM
He will take JJ's place at punt return. VIDEO (http://vimeo.com/15563738)

TdotTexas2Step
04-28-2012, 07:02 PM
He will take JJ's place at punt return. VIDEO (http://vimeo.com/15563738)

Is that Watt trying to chase him down at the end of the return? lol

Heath Shuler
04-28-2012, 07:09 PM
Is that Watt trying to chase him down at the end of the return? lol
looked like WATT to me.

NCTexan
04-28-2012, 07:40 PM
I'm stoked about having a player named Keyshawn.....its one of those "football" names that sound cool.

I agree with 100%. I'll feel good yelling Keyshawn! during games.

CretorFrigg
04-28-2012, 07:58 PM
I agree with 100%. I'll feel good yelling Keyshawn! during games.

Reminds me of Keystone...Light. :kubepalm:

kiwitexansfan
04-29-2012, 12:10 AM
Of all the draft picks, to me, this guys quotes are the least Texany.

Maybe it's just the WR gene showing, but Posey doesn't have it.

drs23
04-29-2012, 02:20 AM
Of all the draft picks, to me, this guys quotes are the least Texany.

Maybe it's just the WR gene showing, but Posey doesn't have it.

Of what quotes do you speak of Kiwi?

kiwitexansfan
04-29-2012, 03:30 AM
Of what quotes do you speak of Kiwi?

Over @ Houstontexans.com they have quotes from all the draft picks.

Rey
04-29-2012, 04:45 AM
I guess kubiak just dismissed the theory that only big wr's can play in his offense.

Corrosion
04-29-2012, 04:57 AM
I guess kubiak just dismissed the theory that only big wr's can play in his offense.

They drafted a waterbug reciever in 2010 .... Trindon Holliday and told him they expected him to contribute as both reciever and on ST.

kingh99
04-29-2012, 06:12 AM
Holliday isn't even a Waterbug. More like Paramecium. I don't why he keeps getting mentioned. Timeout Gatorade/Towel girls have gotten closer to seeing playing time. My guess is Kubiak pushed the pick for both Holliday and Jacoby Jones. My guess today they give Gary a ball to go play with until the last two picks. Then he gets to pick an A&M guy and Smith picks a Purdue guy and it's all good.

Playoffs
04-29-2012, 04:17 PM
Runs the middle return as good as anyone I've ever seen
-- Joe Marciano (directed special teams for 25 NFL seasons)

Wolf
04-30-2012, 09:49 PM
about a minute into it
http://www.houstontexans.com/tv-media/videos/Texans-Daily-Final-Day-review/aa899277-94c5-4809-8904-da820c0b3e80

Texans Daily: Final Day review (3:25)
Check out what the Texans' position coaches thought about the Saturday picks in the 2012 Draft

Playoffs
05-01-2012, 03:49 PM
We absolutely love Keyshawn Martin ... explosive ... excellent return skills/decisions ... quick burst/acceleration ... great hands ... underrated except by those who saw Michigan State.
-- Dan Shonka, Ourlads Scouting

drs23
05-01-2012, 06:40 PM
We absolutely love Keyshawn Martin ... explosive ... excellent return skills/decisions ... quick burst/acceleration ... great hands ... underrated except by those who saw Michigan State.
-- Dan Shonka, Ourlads Scouting

This is what Coach Joe said about his return game pointing out specifically that he went straight upfield. When I heard that on his podcast plus the poor sidestepping he did about Jacoby's future here, I knew for sure the handwriting was on the wall.

We all got to read the wall today! :hurrah:

Blake
05-02-2012, 09:18 AM
After reflection I really like this pick. Looks very quick on film with great change of direction and acceleration. Was getting open and settling down in space easily. Was 8/9 in passing situations for some trick plays. And his punt return skills are an added bonus.

Well spent 4th round pick. Made JJones and Holliday expendable.

b0ng
05-02-2012, 02:15 PM
I agree with 100%. I'll feel good yelling Keyshawn! during games.

His name isn't "KEY-shawn" it's "KEH-Shawn" from what I understand.

Seņor Stan
05-02-2012, 02:53 PM
His name isn't "KEY-shawn" it's "KEH-Shawn" from what I understand.

Man, I just did a presentation yesterday for some 2nd graders. After filled out the quizzes that I gave them, I drew their papers out to call out the winners.

Hoo boy...did I butcher some names. The kids made sure to let me have it when I did. I was thinking...GEEZ...can I get a "Mike" or "Billy" or something...

Big Lou
05-02-2012, 03:14 PM
His name isn't "KEY-shawn" it's "KEH-Shawn" from what I understand.

I will call him Kiesha until I start to see some production....... Heheehee

TejasTom
05-10-2012, 07:29 AM
An interview with Martin (http://www.stateofthetexans.com/?p=4488)

Lucky
05-10-2012, 07:35 AM
I guess kubiak just dismissed the theory that only big wr's can play in his offense.
I think he affirmed that slot receiver can be found on Day 3.

Rey
05-10-2012, 07:50 AM
I think he affirmed that slot receiver can be found on Day 3.

No, what he affirmed is that he will pick players that he thinks will help the team. It's not like posey is a big guy either.

Lucky
05-10-2012, 07:57 AM
No, what he affirmed is that he will pick players that he thinks will help the team. It's not like posey is a big guy either.

Posey measured 6'2" 211 lbs at the combine.

Rey
05-10-2012, 08:11 AM
Posey measured 6'2" 211 lbs at the combine.

Really it was 6'1" and some Change. Not really a full 6'2 but whatever.
I don't consider that "big". He is not a "big" wr. He has good size, but he's smaller that dre, Walter and jacoby.

Either way you slice it he's not a big guy unless you are a small guy.

Lucky
05-10-2012, 09:07 AM
Either way you slice it he's not a big guy unless you are a small guy.

Posey is close to 4" taller and 15 lbs heavier than Kendall Wright, who is the genesis of this conversation.

Rey
05-10-2012, 09:26 AM
Posey is close to 4" taller and 15 lbs heavier than Kendall Wright, who is the genesis of this conversation.

I wasn't really thinking about Wright actually. I was just thinking about the notion that Kubiak only wants big receivers playing in his offense.

Wright really is not relevant as he was taken off the board before we were even on the clock.

The Pencil Neck
05-10-2012, 09:14 PM
No, what he affirmed is that he will pick players that he thinks will help the team. It's not like posey is a big guy either.

I think that whole "big receiver" thing has gotten blown out of proportion. There was a rumor that he was interested in drafting Ted Ginn, Jr. back in the day and he's a short guy (5'11", 180). David Anderson found a place on this squad for several years and he's only 5'10".

He's definitely had a lot of big receivers on his teams and he likes guys that can block (which bigger guys have more to work with in that respect.) But Kubiak is pretty good at finding ways to use players to their strengths within his system.

Lucky
05-10-2012, 11:54 PM
I think that whole "big receiver" thing has gotten blown out of proportion.
The conversation began back during the pre-draft period, when many posters (such as Rey) felt that Kendall Wright would be a target of the Texans in the 1st round. It was pointed out that the Texans under Kubiak had never had a starting WR under 6 ft tall. The Broncos (with Kubiak as OC) had not had a starting WR under 6 ft since 1995 (Mike Pritchard).

The Texans have had WRs on the roster under 6 ft. Both David Anderson and Derrick Mason were sub 6 ft slot WRs. Now maybe Keshawn Martin displayed talent that forces Kubiak to re-evaluate his stance on WRs. Until then, I think the point that the Texans won't take a WR they see as a 3rd down slot receiver who can't help in the rushing game remains valid.

Rey
05-11-2012, 12:21 AM
The conversation began back during the pre-draft period, when many posters (such as Rey) felt that Kendall Wright would be a target of the Texans in the 1st round.

You're making stuff up.

I never said anything about who the texans would target. What i said is that's who I'd target. I also said that I don't think the texans would rule out a guy they felt was talented simply due to height.

I could be wrong and my memory could be betraying me but I dont ever remember saying that the texans would target wright.

And we have no clue if they'd have taken him or not, but what we do know is that kubiak will take and play smallish receivers.

Bulls on Parade
05-11-2012, 12:33 AM
I have very high expectations for Keshawn Martin. 1200 yards, 13 TDs and a pro bowl appearance as a rookie. I've got a lot of faith in his abilities to stretch the field and make big plays.

redwhiteANDblue
05-11-2012, 12:35 AM
I have very high expectations for Keshawn Martin. 1200 yards, 13 TDs and a pro bowl appearance as a rookie. I've got a lot of faith in his abilities to stretch the field and make big plays.

A little bit too much to drink today?

Vinny
05-11-2012, 12:38 AM
I have very high expectations for Keshawn Martin. 1200 yards, 13 TDs and a pro bowl appearance as a rookie. I've got a lot of faith in his abilities to stretch the field and make big plays.
Andre Johnson has been in the league for a decade and he has had over 10 TD's in a season exactly........zero times. Yeah, go drink more kewl-aide. That's the ticket.

The Pencil Neck
05-11-2012, 01:00 AM
I have very high expectations for Keshawn Martin. 1200 yards, 13 TDs and a pro bowl appearance as a rookie. I've got a lot of faith in his abilities to stretch the field and make big plays.

Wow.

I hope you're right.

That would be amazing.

Rey
05-11-2012, 01:09 AM
I have very high expectations for Keshawn Martin. 1200 yards, 13 TDs and a pro bowl appearance as a rookie. I've got a lot of faith in his abilities to stretch the field and make big plays.

I hop you are wrong. I hope you're selling him short.

I don't think that'll happen, buy wouldn't complain about being wrong one bit.

Quick II Draw
05-11-2012, 01:29 AM
Most of the time I read the posts on this site with a grin at the twinge of homerism. But come on, 1300 yards and 10+ TDs as a rookie WR on a team with Andre Johnson and Arian Foster? Really? You expect that? Really?

The Pencil Neck
05-11-2012, 11:59 AM
Most of the time I read the posts on this site with a grin at the twinge of homerism. But come on, 1300 yards and 10+ TDs as a rookie WR on a team with Andre Johnson and Arian Foster? Really? You expect that? Really?

lol

Let the guy have his dreams. :handshake:

DX-TEX
05-11-2012, 12:19 PM
I have very high expectations for Keshawn Martin. 1200 yards, 13 TDs and a pro bowl appearance as a rookie. I've got a lot of faith in his abilities to stretch the field and make big plays.

If you are right we need to go into a lottery partnership. 50/50 split

thunderkyss
05-11-2012, 12:57 PM
I have very high expectations for Keshawn Martin. 1200 yards, 13 TDs and a pro bowl appearance as a rookie. I've got a lot of faith in his abilities to stretch the field and make big plays.

Wow.

I hope you're right.

That would be amazing.

That would mean that something happened to Andre or Posey.... That's the only way KMart is going to get 1200 yards & 13 TDs.

Well, that or he plays flat-out better than Posey & Walter.

The Pencil Neck
05-11-2012, 01:03 PM
That would mean that something happened to Andre or Posey.... That's the only way KMart is going to get 1200 yards & 13 TDs.

Well, that or he plays flat-out better than Posey & Walter.

Last year, we got a total of 5 receiving TDs from Walter and AJ. Dreessen got 6. To have 1 guy get 13... that would be startling.

BigBull17
05-14-2012, 10:40 AM
I have very high expectations for Keshawn Martin. 1200 yards, 13 TDs and a pro bowl appearance as a rookie. I've got a lot of faith in his abilities to stretch the field and make big plays.

Randy Moss had 1300 yds, 17 tds and that is the best rookie season ever. Highly doubt we get half that with Keyshawn Martin. And I would be thrilled with half.

Texan_Touchdown
05-14-2012, 02:42 PM
Randy Moss had 1300 yds, 17 tds and that is the best rookie season ever. Highly doubt we get half that with Keyshawn Martin. And I would be thrilled with half.

I'm just happy to say we don't need him to have that kind of season in order for us to get where we need to go lol

Playoffs
05-14-2012, 02:47 PM
All I want from Martin is safe ball handling & good decision making in the return game this year -- middle of the pack or better is fine. Anything else of substance will be a bonus in 2012.

76Texan
05-21-2012, 08:16 PM
Smallish for a WR at 5'11" and 180 pounds

Very productive:
"2008: (10/0) - 11-132-12 2009: (13/2) - 18-411-22.8-5 2010: (11/5) - 32-394-12.3-1 2011: (14/9) -- 66-777-11.8-4. Career (2008-'11) - 64 carries-540-8.4-3. 47 KORs-1,100-36.6-1. 65 PRs-659-10.1-2. "



Ball Skills
"Hands are a bit inconsistent. On one hand, flashes ability to snatch on the run. However, can allow too many throws to get into frame which can result in some drops. Lack of size and arm length (31 5/8) limits his catching radius but does show ability to elevate and pull in high throw. Shows adequate body control and flashes ability to open up and make tough catch outside of frame. Can struggle at times to find and track the deep ball. "

Big play ability
Possesses the top-end speed to take the top off of defenses. Also shows an extra gear to track down the deep ball. Top-end speed and quickness provides with the ability to create yards after the catch. Extremely dangerous when finding daylight and has the speed to ruin defenders angle in pursuit. Slippery as an open-field runner and can ward of arm tackle attempts. Lack of size and strength limits his ability to win one-on-one downfield battles. Dangerous returner on special teams with the vision and speed to exploit seams in the coverage.


All from http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/28673/keshawn-martin

I like him as a playmaker, but now that I have a little more time to watch more closely, I'm a little concern.

This INT was due to Martin stopping short on a route:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE8IpOQopio

It was during the Notre Dame game (confirmed by Mike Mayock).

Martin did the same thing on a slant in another game (either vs Ohio St. or Mich) that almost resulted in another INT.

76Texan
05-21-2012, 08:23 PM
Against Michigan and Ohio St., he dropped a couple of passes (one of them was a sure TD) and he fumbled the ball twice (fortunately, one landed out of bound).

In a lateral pass, he took his eye of the ball and drop another one.
That was supposed to be a fumble (the pass did not go forward), the ref ruled it an incompletion.
The thing is Keshawn needed to be aware that it WAS a fumble, and he should have gone after it.

76Texan
05-21-2012, 10:36 PM
It concerned me a bit there as those were the first three games I pulled up.
Now that I had gone through 10 games, he had only one more drop.
With that many pass attempts going his way and the number of returns he fielded, it's acceptable.

I've seen Blackmon drop more passes and fumble once or twice as well.

So I guess it's all good? :brando:

aussie_texan
05-21-2012, 10:38 PM
It concerned me a bit there as those were the first three games I pulled up.
Now that I had gone through 10 games, he had only one more drop.
With that many pass attempts going his way and the number of returns he fielded, it's acceptable.

I've seen Blackmon drop more passes and fumble once or twice as well.

So I guess it's all good? :brando:

where do you get all this game footage???

76Texan
05-21-2012, 10:49 PM
where do you get all this game footage???

check your pm

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07-23-2012, 09:59 AM
This guy has some SERIOUS potential as a slot receiver and returner... I watched some more film on him this morning. I'm more excited about him than any other WR we have outside of Dre.