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Wolf6151
04-26-2012, 06:12 AM
It was pretty obvious last year that Wade Phillips was in charge of the draft after McNair hired him and the switch to the 3-4 defense. He let Wade pick his players for the conversion. Rick Smith might have been making the calls but Wade was pulling his strings and telling him what players to go after. As a result we had one of our most successful drafts ever. So who's in charge this year? Do they let Wade pull the strings again and have another successful draft, or does McNair risk Smithiak making the picks and take the chance of small school players picked way to early, project players chosen way to early, multiple TE's, drafting your friends kids, more awsome talent from CSU, etc... Who's in charge, and do you have confidence in them?

welsh texan
04-26-2012, 06:35 AM
It was pretty obvious last year that Wade Phillips was in charge of the draft after McNair hired him and the switch to the 3-4 defense. He let Wade pick his players for the conversion. Rick Smith might have been making the calls but Wade was pulling his strings and telling him what players to go after. As a result we had one of our most successful drafts ever. So who's in charge this year? Do they let Wade pull the strings again and have another successful draft, or does McNair risk Smithiak making the picks and take the chance of small school players picked way to early, project players chosen way to early, multiple TE's, drafting your friends kids, more awsome talent from CSU, etc... Who's in charge, and do you have confidence in them?

I believe they are totally genuine when they explain their system of deciding the picks, and that its a team effort where they work out between themselves who's the best value.

We all talk about how great Wade drafted last year, in reality the jury is still out, they got 2 great players in the first 2 picks, then a load of guys who barely saw the field (save for TJ), so grading the overall draft last year is difficult so far.

Our needs look a lot more evenly spread this year, with many of them being depth/rotation/future needs rather than must-find-a-week1-starter type situations so its set to be an interesting couple of days. Keep the Faith.

Playoffs
04-26-2012, 09:51 AM
GM is always in charge of the draft. :kitten:

dream_team
04-26-2012, 10:29 AM
GM is always in charge of the draft. :kitten:

This! ^^^

Why do people think last year's draft was all Wade? He gave his input, but Rick is still in charge. If you claim Rick doesn't know how to draft defense, then who was in charge in 2009?

Big Lou
04-26-2012, 10:37 AM
I believe they are totally genuine when they explain their system of deciding the picks, and that its a team effort where they work out between themselves who's the best value.

We all talk about how great Wade drafted last year, in reality the jury is still out, they got 2 great players in the first 2 picks, then a load of guys who barely saw the field (save for TJ), so grading the overall draft last year is difficult so far.

Our needs look a lot more evenly spread this year, with many of them being depth/rotation/future needs rather than must-find-a-week1-starter type situations so its set to be an interesting couple of days. Keep the Faith.

Wade drafted well at QB..... LOL

On an only slightly related note, I wish TJ Houshmadilla was still playing at a high level, because we would have to sign him. I could just hear: "TJ throws to TJ in the endzone for a TD!!!!!" Championship!!!!

Posters around Reliant would look like Algebra: TJ+TJ=TD (So does D=J/2)

Hardcore Texan
04-26-2012, 10:41 AM
Me. :secret:

welsh texan
04-26-2012, 10:41 AM
Wade drafted well at QB..... LOL

On an only slightly related note, I wish TJ Houshmadilla was still playing at a high level, because we would have to sign him. I could just hear: "TJ throws to TJ in the endzone for a TD!!!!!" Championship!!!!

Posters around Reliant would look like Algebra: TJ+TJ=TD (So does D=J/2)

Ahh that isn't what I meant, although it highlights my point that it wasn't all on Wade last year, they hit on an O pick too.

HOU-TEX
04-26-2012, 10:44 AM
HOU-TEX :boogie:

steelbtexan
04-26-2012, 10:45 AM
I dont know who's in charge. But I do know if the Texans have a terrible draft it wont be teflon Ricks fault.

TimeKiller
04-26-2012, 10:46 AM
Same jam as every year Rick Smith has been here. His team of scouts go collect information all year and bring it back. The coaches sort through the bull, hand Rick a list. When it comes time, they discuss a few potential candidates and run with what they think is the best option. Everyone has input, I'm sure McNair probably doesn't say a whole lot but I bet if he says something they listen to him too. I wouldn't call it a charge but I think Rick Smith laid the groundwork for the process they collectively use as a management team.

BIG TORO
04-26-2012, 11:01 AM
The Miller lite girls:
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4660061542810756&id=df8ef98fac9abd22e483663d162cd696

wolf123
04-26-2012, 11:04 AM
I dont know who's in charge. But I do know if the Texans have a terrible draft it wont be teflon Ricks fault.

Ricks gotten plenty of blame, even though most of it is undeserved.

Vinnie
04-26-2012, 11:10 AM
The Miller lite girls:
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4660061542810756&id=df8ef98fac9abd22e483663d162cd696

I don't have a problem with this.

b0ng
04-26-2012, 12:15 PM
I dont know who's in charge. But I do know if the Texans have a terrible draft it wont be teflon Ricks fault.

Wouldn't be a TT thread unless somebody exaggerated a negative claim then misplaced the blame for the blown up notion.

Marcus
04-26-2012, 12:36 PM
I dont know who's in charge. But I do know if the Texans have a terrible draft it wont be teflon Ricks fault.

That's funny, I thought Kubes was teflon.

Oh wait, I got it now. Anyone that you want fired, that wasn't, is made of teflon. Sorry, hadn't had the coffee yet this morning. :smooch:

steelbtexan
04-26-2012, 12:47 PM
That's funny, I thought Kubes was teflon.

Oh wait, I got it now. Anyone that you want fired, that wasn't, is made of teflon. Sorry, hadn't had the coffee yet this morning. :smooch:

I have never said Gary was teflon.

Gary is a good guy who was overmatched when he stuck his hands on the defensive side of the ball. Gary is too conservative for my liking. But with Wade on board Gary appeared to come out of the shell he has been in since Rosencopter.

I'm not a Smith hater, I just think he is like most corporate upper management types. He takes credit for others work when things go right and puts blame on others when thing dont work out as planned.

b0ng
04-26-2012, 12:58 PM
I have never said Gary was teflon.

Gary is a good guy who was overmatched when he stuck his hands on the defensive side of the ball. Gary is too conservative for my liking. But with Wade on board Gary appeared to come out of the shell he has been in since Rosencopter.

I'm not a Smith hater, I just think he is like most corporate upper management types. He takes credit for others work when things go right and puts blame on others when thing dont work out as planned.

Sounds more like you believe anything Smith has done right can be attributed to somebody else, and anything that goes wrong has to be blamed on Smith no matter the situation.

Big Lou
04-26-2012, 03:01 PM
Ahh that isn't what I meant, although it highlights my point that it wasn't all on Wade last year, they hit on an O pick too.

I wasn't trying to poke fun at you or take your point out of context. I just had an image in my head.

Big Lou
04-26-2012, 03:05 PM
Wouldn't be a TT thread unless somebody exaggerated a negative claim then misplaced the blame for the blown up notion.

I would prefer the to be in a draft. I'll trade my current wife for picks, and then I'll trade up to take all three in the first round.

badboy
04-26-2012, 03:18 PM
team effort with Smith nominally in charge.

BattleRedRock
04-26-2012, 03:42 PM
I really hope ITS THE RECEIVERS COACH this year and not Smith Kubiak or Mcnair picking our receiver bc if we draft another Jacoby Jones bc he has "speed" "ability" then im sure he may resign and go somewhere else.. Im almost positive the receivers coach and special teams coach got together and TPed Jacobys house in the off season.. i dunno just a thought haha

Wolf6151
04-26-2012, 03:46 PM
The Miller lite girls:
http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4660061542810756&id=df8ef98fac9abd22e483663d162cd696

I like your idea but would like you to expand upon it further with more discussion and photographic evidence please...

Hervoyel
04-26-2012, 10:50 PM
Even if the Texans come out and give us a detailed rundown on how they do things we still don't absolutely know that they're telling us the truth so I just assume what I think seems obvious. If the collective brain trust is in the same room and talking about a defensive player I think they obviously would defer to Wade. Offensive player would mean they defer to Gary. People like McNair and Smith might like a player and I'm sure that as with every organization there are people whose position gives them more authority than their knowledge.

G27RR
04-27-2012, 12:17 AM
team effort with Smith nominally in charge.

I agree.

FYI - Mike Mayock reacting to the Mercilus pick, "I think Rick Smith is quietly becoming one of the better GMs in the league, and it's evidenced by the last several drafts."

Also see this:

"When I signed my contract with (owner Bob) McNair (before the 2011 season), he told me we could get a first-round draft choice every year. He's a smart player (who's) athletic, tough, physical and a self-starter, a high-motor guy who plays with ability. He's one of the top pass rushers in the draft."-- * defensive coordinator Wade Phillips

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-04-26/nfl-draft-2012-houston-texans-whitney-mercilus