PDA

View Full Version : Name the guy #26


badboy
04-25-2012, 02:36 PM
Ok, as we creep towards kick off of NFL Draft note your pick and also whom you think Texans will pick in first. If you say a trade, up or down say with which team and what pick(s) you get and whom you'd choose & whom Texans will choose at those spots.
#26
Mine is Coby Fleener TE my pick and Texans.

redwhiteANDblue
04-25-2012, 02:41 PM
WR Kendall Wright at #26

TexCanada
04-25-2012, 02:41 PM
Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford.

SheTexan
04-25-2012, 02:44 PM
Wright if he's on the board, if not Stephen Hill. :fans:

GP
04-25-2012, 02:45 PM
Fleener* at 1a.

Wright** at 1b.

Some OL dude as a wild card if we don't go WR/TE.

----------------------

*Fleener is an Owen Daniels type of player. Gets off the line, swims through LBs, and gets to the sweet spot of the field for the QB to find him easily.

**we could also go with some other WR other than Wright, but I think he fits the concept of what we want at WR...fast-twitch, gets into his routes and can take it to the house if he's in the open field. He's going to be what Jacoby ought to be.

DISCLAIMER: Fleener and Wright very well might be off the board well before #26, so that's where the OL wild card comes into play.

Dutchrudder
04-25-2012, 02:45 PM
#26 Shea McClellin OLB

chicagotexan2
04-25-2012, 02:50 PM
#26 T/G Cordy Glenn Univ. of Georgia

BigBull17
04-25-2012, 02:52 PM
Fleener or Amini Silatolu, also could be Shea McClellin or Whitney Mercilus

Rey
04-25-2012, 02:52 PM
Zeitler or worthy.

chicagotexan2
04-25-2012, 02:55 PM
ONE GUY ONLY!!!!!!!!!! thank you.

HOU-TEX
04-25-2012, 02:57 PM
Shea McClellen OLB

Texn4life
04-25-2012, 02:58 PM
Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama

The Pencil Neck
04-25-2012, 03:04 PM
Fleener.

rush2112mn
04-25-2012, 03:08 PM
No guy for us at 26.....cause we are trading down into the 2nd round......to pick up a extra picks....which we need to get a kicker in the 6th or 7th round.....and another pick....

TimeKiller
04-25-2012, 03:09 PM
Siggy.

I really think McClellin could fill the ILB spot next to Cushing as well. His ability to get through the OL and find the ballcarrier, his quick feet and his attitude fit this D, this town and this team perfectly.

Grams
04-25-2012, 03:10 PM
1 defensive guy

BattleRedRock
04-25-2012, 03:18 PM
i think they trade the 1st rd pick for an extra 2nd and 3rd.. i cant say who bc it depends on who is available at our 26 and what team has that prospect on their board at that pick. that being said, texans have done that before, so i see them maybe drafting WR and OLB in second rds... Mo Sanu Rueben Randle? and Perry if hes still there if not then Curry? I just think its too impossible to predict these guys. i know other than duane brown we havent taken an offensive guy early in the draft and TEs we usually take in the later rds

Blake
04-25-2012, 03:18 PM
#26 Nick Perry

nero THE zero
04-25-2012, 03:20 PM
26. Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois

cuppacoffee
04-25-2012, 03:31 PM
Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford.




We have a consensus.


Houston Texans: Jonathan Martin, T, Stanford

I know you didn't ask but Juron Criner WR from Arizona in the second.


:coffee:

Porky
04-25-2012, 03:32 PM
Every guy mentioned is a possibility. Nothing out of left field yet.

I'll say Fleener if we go offense and Shea M (OLB) if we go defense but it's a crap shoot.

Insideop
04-25-2012, 03:40 PM
McClellen, OLB, Boise St.

kiwitexansfan
04-25-2012, 03:45 PM
Nick Perry, OLB, USC

V3rm0nt3r
04-25-2012, 03:53 PM
Nick Perry OLB USC

badboy
04-25-2012, 03:58 PM
So far we'd do well with any mentioned. I am surprised at those predicting a defensive player. I would have thought most would say a guy for Gary.

TheGoldenGreek
04-25-2012, 04:02 PM
Nick Perry, OLB, USC

Wolf6151
04-25-2012, 04:03 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict a trade down. The Miami Dolphins pass on Tannehill at #9 realizing that he's not a good value there and fill another need instead, possibly Michael Floyd-WR. Miami trades back into the bottom of the 1st round at #26, worth 700 pts. on the trade value chart, to get Brandon Weeden-QB. Houston gets their 2nd round pick at #42, worth 480 pts. on the trade value chart, and #73 in the 3rd round, worth 205 pts., for a total of 705 pts.. Houston now has two 2nd round picks, two 3rd round picks, and two 4th round picks.

2-42, Bobby Massie-OT, Winstons replacement, long arms and great size.
2-58, Brandon Thompson-DT, rotates with Cody, allows the move of Mitchell to DE, and replaces Cody in 2013 when Cody's a salary cap casualty.
3-73, Marvin Jones-WR, Jacoby Jones replacement, nice size, smooth athleticism, plays the slot or outside, good routes, and great hands.
3-76, AJ Jenkins-WR, ensures Jacoby is gone, similar to Jones but faster.
4. Brandon Washington-OG/OT, great size and good mobility, plays either OG spot and can fill in at RT if needed.
4. Nigel Bradham-OLB, good size and good speed with great college productivity, good depth behind Barwin and Reed.
5. Ryan Lindley-QB, good size and strong arm, needs to work on accuracy which he gets as QB#3, depth with potential.
6. Randy Bullock-K, Turks replacement.
7. Brandon Bolden-RB, Wards replacement and a good pass catcher from the RB spot.

texanchris
04-25-2012, 04:03 PM
Chandler Jones OLB Syracuse

ChampionTexan
04-25-2012, 04:07 PM
http://www.ogeeku.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/neenerneener.jpg

:kubepalm: Errr.....That should say Fleener.

welsh texan
04-25-2012, 04:15 PM
So far we'd do well with any mentioned. I am surprised at those predicting a defensive player. I would have thought most would say a guy for Gary.

Got to go for the value, as someone who hasn't watched any college ball I can only go on others' opinions, and from what I've read I get the impression there isn't as much immediate impact likely to be available on the O side, apart from maybe O-line where we have very specific requirements that may be better suited to later picks and also tends to take time to teach (how many guys have come in and looked great straight away in our blocking scheme? Wade Smith).

@ WR I'm minded to go for quantity with Kubiak's coaching, he doesn't like to put rookies in there straight away, and gets the most out of the hard-working lower talent guys where the physically gifted have failed to have what it takes.

Its going to be an interesting draft, these guys could go any number of ways and improve our team, whatever they choose though they have got to nail it. I like what I read when people talk of adding great depth at OLB with the versatility to play ILB, I think thats a great pick if they get quality there.

WolverineFan
04-25-2012, 04:29 PM
1a. Jonathan Martin - OT, Stanford

1b. Shea McClellin - OLB, Boise State

1c. Coby Fleener - TE, Stanford

Insideop
04-25-2012, 04:33 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict a trade down. The Miami Dolphins pass on Tannehill at #9 realizing that he's not a good value there and fill another need instead, possibly Michael Floyd-WR. Miami trades back into the bottom of the 1st round at #26, worth 700 pts. on the trade value chart, to get Brandon Weeden-QB. Houston gets their 2nd round pick at #42, worth 480 pts. on the trade value chart, and #73 in the 3rd round, worth 205 pts., for a total of 705 pts.. Houston now has two 2nd round picks, two 3rd round picks, and two 4th round picks.

2-42, Bobby Massie-OT, Winstons replacement, long arms and great size.
2-58, Brandon Thompson-DT, rotates with Cody, allows the move of Mitchell to DE, and replaces Cody in 2013 when Cody's a salary cap casualty.
3-73, Marvin Jones-WR, Jacoby Jones replacement, nice size, smooth athleticism, plays the slot or outside, good routes, and great hands.
3-76, AJ Jenkins-WR, ensures Jacoby is gone, similar to Jones but faster.
4. Brandon Washington-OG/OT, great size and good mobility, plays either OG spot and can fill in at RT if needed.
4. Nigel Bradham-OLB, good size and good speed with great college productivity, good depth behind Barwin and Reed.
5. Ryan Lindley-QB, good size and strong arm, needs to work on accuracy which he gets as QB#3, depth with potential.
6. Randy Bullock-K, Turks replacement.
7. Brandon Bolden-RB, Wards replacement and a good pass catcher from the RB spot.

You mean Rackers replacement. Turk was the Punter.

I do like trading back for the extra picks!

Allstar
04-25-2012, 04:33 PM
Trade up for Floyd at 21 :bender:

The Cush
04-25-2012, 04:48 PM
1a. Jonathan Martin - OT, Stanford

1b. Shea McClellin - OLB, Boise State

1c. Coby Fleener - TE, Stanford

I agree with this and will add that Amini guy as the 4, I think will most likely to be drafted by the Texans at 26 according to my own premonitions. I also think if one of the Alabama LB's falls to us they may be in play. Hightower can play inside and outside in the 3-4 and Wade will find ways to keep him on the field and max out his versatility.

badboy
04-25-2012, 05:10 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb and predict a trade down. The Miami Dolphins pass on Tannehill at #9 realizing that he's not a good value there and fill another need instead, possibly Michael Floyd-WR. Miami trades back into the bottom of the 1st round at #26, worth 700 pts. on the trade value chart, to get Brandon Weeden-QB. Houston gets their 2nd round pick at #42, worth 480 pts. on the trade value chart, and #73 in the 3rd round, worth 205 pts., for a total of 705 pts.. Houston now has two 2nd round picks, two 3rd round picks, and two 4th round picks.

2-42, Bobby Massie-OT, Winstons replacement, long arms and great size.
2-58, Brandon Thompson-DT, rotates with Cody, allows the move of Mitchell to DE, and replaces Cody in 2013 when Cody's a salary cap casualty.
3-73, Marvin Jones-WR, Jacoby Jones replacement, nice size, smooth athleticism, plays the slot or outside, good routes, and great hands.
3-76, AJ Jenkins-WR, ensures Jacoby is gone, similar to Jones but faster.
4. Brandon Washington-OG/OT, great size and good mobility, plays either OG spot and can fill in at RT if needed.
4. Nigel Bradham-OLB, good size and good speed with great college productivity, good depth behind Barwin and Reed.
5. Ryan Lindley-QB, good size and strong arm, needs to work on accuracy which he gets as QB#3, depth with potential.
6. Randy Bullock-K, Turks replacement.
7. Brandon Bolden-RB, Wards replacement and a good pass catcher from the RB spot.Now that's the way to step up! I think the only two spots you missed are back up center & maybe we have one already on roster and FB. Both of those could be an UDFA. Question, you think Lindley will fall to 5? That would be a stellar pick there.

TheIronDuke
04-25-2012, 05:11 PM
Fleener- traded to 49ers.

b0ng
04-25-2012, 05:13 PM
Kendall Wright because I don't want him

badboy
04-25-2012, 05:17 PM
Trade up for Floyd at 21 :bender:Ok but name what you gave up to get him.

noxiousdog
04-25-2012, 05:18 PM
Fleener is a total Kubiak type pick. I'm also scared of taking WR's that aren't clear cut top 10 picks.

Baldwin wasn't good from last year.
Demaryius Thomas has been ok, but isn't up to WR #2 numbers. (Of course he had The Tebow thowing to him.)
Dez Bryant should have been a top 10 pick if he wasn't a knucklead.
Maclin's good, not great.
Harvin's ok.
Hakeem Nicks is probably the best of the guys drafted 10-32.
Britt might be good if he had a QB and could stay healthy.
Ted Ginn Jr. - bad
Bowe - Good
Meachum has a lot of pub, but only 141 catches since being drafted in 2007.
Craig Davis - Terrible
Anthony Gonzalez - bad
Santonio Holmes - Good

That's everyone back to 2006. Better mix than I thought. You don't see a lot of WR drafted in that range though. The TE's have been good.

Wolf6151
04-25-2012, 05:26 PM
You mean Rackers replacement. Turk was the Punter.

I do like trading back for the extra picks!

Thanks for setting me straight, I did this one last night and I was tired.

BB, I think we sign a FB as an UDFA, I think Caldwell and Smith are our backup Centers. As for Lindley, he should fall to the 5th but probably won't because of the premium put on the position.

badboy
04-25-2012, 05:27 PM
Fleener- traded to 49ers.for what and then who? Be brave take a risk..

badboy
04-25-2012, 05:29 PM
Fleener is a total Kubiak type pick. I'm also scared of taking WR's that aren't clear cut top 10 picks.

Baldwin wasn't good from last year.
Demaryius Thomas has been ok, but isn't up to WR #2 numbers. (Of course he had The Tebow thowing to him.)
Dez Bryant should have been a top 10 pick if he wasn't a knucklead.
Maclin's good, not great.
Harvin's ok.
Hakeem Nicks is probably the best of the guys drafted 10-32.
Britt might be good if he had a QB and could stay healthy.
Ted Ginn Jr. - bad
Bowe - Good
Meachum has a lot of pub, but only 141 catches since being drafted in 2007.
Craig Davis - Terrible
Anthony Gonzalez - bad
Santonio Holmes - Good

That's everyone back to 2006. Better mix than I thought. You don't see a lot of WR drafted in that range though. The TE's have been good.Would not most of those guys been better in our system?

Fili
04-25-2012, 05:37 PM
Kendall Wright.

NastyNate
04-25-2012, 05:37 PM
We'll trade back, and get Vinny Curry, DE. Or so I hope.

TexCanada
04-25-2012, 05:49 PM
1a. Jonathan Martin - OT, Stanford

1b. Shea McClellin - OLB, Boise State

1c. Coby Fleener - TE, Stanford

This is my exact list too.

TexCanada
04-25-2012, 05:51 PM
We should add a poll on this thread.

pirbroke
04-25-2012, 06:11 PM
I vote Fleener at 26.

pirbroke
04-25-2012, 06:17 PM
Mike Mayock picks-


http://www.nfl.com/draft/2012/mock-drafts/mike-mayock/150251
26


Coby Fleener

TE

Stanford

Would I rather have the fourth-best wideout or the best tight end? When I look at Coby Fleener, he's a vertical threat and the Texans are a zone-run team, which will protect him in the running game. I think it's a great fit.

Killer Bee
04-25-2012, 06:34 PM
Just to be different, Bruce Irvin OLB

He's going to be drafted higher than he should.

TheIronDuke
04-25-2012, 06:41 PM
for what and then who? Be brave take a risk..

I'll say swap 1st plus 49ers 3rd, take Hill with the 1st. I should say I know nothing about the draft except for what I read you guys posting in the mock draft threads.

steelbtexan
04-25-2012, 06:55 PM
Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford.

^^^^
This

If Martin is available.

badboy
04-25-2012, 06:55 PM
We should add a poll on this thread.Nah, too many different suggestions.

Topher
04-25-2012, 07:00 PM
Whitney Mercilus

pec0sb0b
04-25-2012, 07:06 PM
Nick Perry, DE/LB, USC

badboy
04-25-2012, 07:07 PM
I'll say swap 1st plus 49ers 3rd, take Hill with the 1st. I should say I know nothing about the draft except for what I read you guys posting in the mock draft threads.Maybe your read it on one of my posts because I did mention that exact scenario but had SF taking Hill. We will have you mocking with the rest of us before you know it.

Spled
04-25-2012, 07:21 PM
DeCastro

badboy
04-25-2012, 07:44 PM
DeCastroWow, you seriously believe he falls that far? i'd probably take him too.

The Pencil Neck
04-25-2012, 07:57 PM
DeCastro

I can't imagine DeCastro or Floyd falling all the way to us. If they even fall to the early 20's, we should think about moving up to get them.

But I can't imagine them falling that far.

VTexan
04-25-2012, 08:15 PM
Hopefully a trade down but if not best available linemen.... so


Martin

Maddict5
04-25-2012, 08:37 PM
Reuben Randle

Señor Stan
04-25-2012, 08:38 PM
Fleener.

Lucky
04-25-2012, 08:52 PM
Stephen Hill.

The Cush
04-25-2012, 08:56 PM
I was watching Mike Mayock's mock draft on the NFLN and he mocked Fleener to us at 26. Afterwards he and Charles Davis were discussing the pick and Davis kept calling him "JACOBY Fleener". I think it's meant to be now

msbbc833
04-25-2012, 09:07 PM
Fleener:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mXJ3_C78n8

Although I think its BS because he just has a quicker reaction time than those sumo wrestlers. Sports "science", whatever

ChampionTexan
04-25-2012, 09:09 PM
I was watching Mike Mayock's mock draft on the NFLN and he mocked Fleener to us at 26. Afterwards he and Charles Davis were discussing the pick and Davis kept calling him "JACOBY Fleener". I think it's meant to be now

Jacoby Fleener is his name. Coby is a nickname with an obvious derivation.

The Cush
04-25-2012, 09:15 PM
Jacoby Fleener is his name. Coby is a nickname with an obvious derivation.

Oh wow, I did not know that. Kubes loves his Jacobys

Hagar
04-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Courtney Upshaw OLB Alabama

If he's on the board, this is who I want, otherwise the TE from Stanford ~ Coby Fleener.

Rey
04-25-2012, 11:24 PM
Zeitler

BullBlitz
04-25-2012, 11:43 PM
Jacoby Mitchell, WR, Western Carolina

76Texan
04-26-2012, 12:11 AM
Stephen Hill

steelbtexan
04-26-2012, 12:25 AM
Oh wow, I did not know that. Kubes loves his Jacobys

Is he scared to death to go across the middle?

Is he an alcoholic who misses team flights?

If so he could be Garys new Jacoby fetish.

msbbc833
04-26-2012, 12:53 AM
For the people saying Nick Perry. Who would he replace? Antonio Smith?

htowntexans1985
04-26-2012, 12:54 AM
Fleener!!!!!!Upshaw would be a good consolidation pick.

Premier
04-26-2012, 01:22 AM
Fleener:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mXJ3_C78n8

Although I think its BS because he just has a quicker reaction time than those sumo wrestlers. Sports "science", whatever

http://oi46.tinypic.com/2lwk6eh.jpg

SCIENCE!!!!


that vertical is impressive..

The Cush
04-26-2012, 01:35 AM
For the people saying Nick Perry. Who would he replace? Antonio Smith?

Nick Perry would play OLB and compete with Brooks for the other starting position opposite Barwin. Brooks Reed to me is someone who is best used as part of a rotation and you can never have enough pass rushers.

1bigfan13
04-26-2012, 01:55 AM
I've been saying Kendall Wright for a few months now. I'm going to stick with my guns.

Brando
04-26-2012, 02:42 AM
Bruce Irvin, DE, W. Virginia or Dont'a Hightower, LB, Alabama

Fleener will not be available.

beerlover
04-26-2012, 03:15 AM
We will find out in just a few hours. The board is really congested around #26. Great value if Rick can trade down 10 picks or so doesn't make that much difference. The thing to watch for is someone rated higher that slips to #26 who is the bpa on Texans board? Now who would Wade want or Gary for that matter that would make the biggest impact on next years Texans.......

Melvin Ingram, OLB would fit Wade Phillips bill as for Gary he would probably go with Stephen Hill, WR. So I see Gary allowing Wade once again (because he knows best) to replace the loss of Mario & DeMeco with a player who could play either position @ LB. Could you imagine a LB lineup of LOLB Connor Barwin, LILB Brian Cushing, RILB Melvin Ingram & ROLB Brooks Reed. WOW :)

MELVIN INGRAM

TheMatrix31
04-26-2012, 03:58 AM
Wish the draft would get backed to Saturday/Sunday. I hate only 1 round on Thursday. Especially this year, clashing with Game 7s in hockey. Ugh.

Specnatz
04-26-2012, 04:31 AM
CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina

97roc
04-26-2012, 07:04 AM
No guy for us at 26.....cause we are trading down into the 2nd round......to pick up a extra picks....which we need to get a kicker in the 6th or 7th round.....and another pick....

Could very well be this ^^^^. Which I could be ok with.

ckhouston
04-26-2012, 07:44 AM
No guy for us at 26.....cause we are trading down into the 2nd round......to pick up a extra picks....which we need to get a kicker in the 6th or 7th round.....and another pick....

Yes, we should trade out of the first round so we can have a solid plan ... to get a kicker. Yep, thats it. :lol:

Smokedawg
04-26-2012, 07:49 AM
Rueben Randle, led the SEC in every receiving catagory until Jordan Jefferson came over to run the option on the short side of the field.:kubepalm:

Thorn
04-26-2012, 07:49 AM
I don't think we'll trade in the first round, but if we do, I would put money on us trading down and getting an extra pick. I just don't see us trading up.

I don't follow college football, so I can't really make a pick. But that doesn't keep me from posting here. :lol:

SheTexan
04-26-2012, 09:11 AM
I don't think we'll trade in the first round, but if we do, I would put money on us trading down and getting an extra pick. I just don't see us trading up.

I don't follow college football, so I can't really make a pick. But that doesn't keep me from posting here. :lol:

Same here Thorn! I leave it up to all these younger guys to do the research for me! They do a damn good job of it too!!:) The draft process is complicated to me, so I keep it simple. Keep enough names in my old brain to make it fun, and a little interesting at the draft party.

One of the FEW times I buy the local ragsheet is the day after draft day! They'll analyze all the TEXAN draft picks and I'll become acquainted with our new Texans!! Don't really matter to me who they are!!

djohn2oo8
04-26-2012, 09:26 AM
I want Stephen Hill or Rueben Randle on this team.

Section516
04-26-2012, 09:34 AM
http://oi46.tinypic.com/2lwk6eh.jpg

SCIENCE!!!!


that vertical is impressive..

Dwight Howard launches with 1200 lbs of force..Fleener needs more beef!

:lion:

Thorn
04-26-2012, 09:34 AM
Same here Thorn! I leave it up to all these younger guys to do the research for me! They do a damn good job of it too!!:) The draft process is complicated to me, so I keep it simple. Keep enough names in my old brain to make it fun, and a little interesting at the draft party.

One of the FEW times I buy the local ragsheet is the day after draft day! They'll analyze all the TEXAN draft picks and I'll become acquainted with our new Texans!! Don't really matter to me who they are!!

Yep. One of the few times I'll actually read the Chronicle. I'll read what they have to say, read what everyone on this board is saying, and I'll also google our picks as well. I really want to learn who these new guys are. But as we so often find out, what we THINK they will do, and what they actually do can be much different.

chicagotexan2
04-26-2012, 09:41 AM
Yep. One of the few times I'll actually read the Chronicle. I'll read what they have to say, read what everyone on this board is saying, and I'll also google our picks as well. I really want to learn who these new guys are. But as we so often find out, what we THINK they will do, and what they actually do can be much different.

Man I was sure Thorn was going to predict the Texans pick Red Grange or Otto Graham.

HOU-TEX
04-26-2012, 09:43 AM
CB Stephon Gilmore, South Carolina

If Gilmore's there at 26, I'd be peeing in my pants running up to the podium with his selection. Doubt he gets out of the top 10.

zwest1231
04-26-2012, 09:44 AM
trade to St louis for #33 and #96 then we own the 4th rd and I'll say Nick Perry with #33:bravo:

skenney_11
04-26-2012, 09:47 AM
trade to St louis for #33 and #96 then we own the 4th rd and I'll say Nick Perry with #33:bravo:

I would want more in return

Señor Stan
04-26-2012, 09:52 AM
Fleener.

I had a dream last night that the Texans took Kendall Wright. Fleener dropped to the Colts and the ended up with him and Luck.

Thorn
04-26-2012, 10:00 AM
Man I was sure Thorn was going to predict the Texans pick Red Grange or Otto Graham.

Earl Campbell? LOL

Rey
04-26-2012, 10:06 AM
If Gilmore's there at 26, I'd be peeing in my pants running up to the podium with his selection. Doubt he gets out of the top 10.

Wow....

That's a completely different kind of response than the ones I got when I asked the question in a thread a couple months ago...

steelbtexan
04-26-2012, 10:30 AM
Wow....

That's a completely different kind of response than the ones I got when I asked the question in a thread a couple months ago...

Yep Mayock moves Gilmore up and fans start peeing in their pants.

We were hoping Gilmore would fall al along. (Not going to happen.)

Kirkpatrick appears to be falling. Would you take him if he fell to 26, after the KJ experience?

MistaRed
04-26-2012, 10:33 AM
Nick Perry is my prediction

IlliniJen
04-26-2012, 10:41 AM
26. Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois

Oh please, yes.

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

Porky
04-26-2012, 12:52 PM
Oh please, yes.

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

I seriousely doubt he gets past the Bears at #19. If he somehow lands at #26, I'll be doing backflips too but I really, really doubt he falls that far. Are you willing to trade up to #18 to grab him?

Section516
04-26-2012, 12:54 PM
Guy No. 1:

“I know they want [Baylor receiver] Kendall Wright. He’s a slot guy who can work underneath and take pressure off Andre Johnson. Wright’s a playmaker. If he’s gone, there isn’t another receiver who will step right in. Rueben Randle and Alshon Jeffery are like Johnson, big and physical. Wright is different."

“They have to consider offensive line. I couldn’t believe they let Eric Winston go. He’s a good player. Who can you get at 26 that can come right in and play at right tackle? They could go out and make a pick like they did with Duane Brown, a second-round guy in the first. Jonathan Martin maybe? Or trade back."

“To me, the biggest question to be answered by this draft in that division is replacing the leadership and production lost with the trade of DeMeco Ryans and the release of Winston. Those are two main leaders and they did nothing in free agency. That’s hard to replace in a draft."

“Outside linebacker would be a luxury pick. Courtney Upshaw would be nice for them. Shea McClellin is another of what they have -- a versatile, solid football player. Inside, they could like Dont'a Hightower. I don’t think Darryl Sharpton or Bradie James can replace Ryans."

Guy No. 2:

“Coming up with a tackle in the late first is pretty tough. Cordy Glenn really doesn’t fit their profile, though he could be a right tackle. Mike Adams if you get past the combine test. Martin could be in that range."

“You can never have enough rushers. McClellin is a lot like Brooks Reed. Upshaw would be good there."

“Unless you take Janoris Jenkins, you can’t get a good corner at 26. You’d have to hold your nose, but he’s better than Kareem Jackson.”

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation

skenney_11
04-26-2012, 12:55 PM
Apparently it's Bruce Irvin

TheGoldenGreek
04-26-2012, 12:57 PM
WalterFootball.com updated their pick for the Texans at #26 to Bruce Irvin, DE/OLB, West Virginia.

This is what he said about the pick:

Surprise! Bruce Irvin in the first round? You might be thinking about e-mailing Woody Paige to tell him that he's right about me being a buffoon, but let me explain first. Michael Lombardi reported that some team flew Irvin to their facility in a helicopter and told him he'd be their first-round pick. I have some reason to believe that the Texans will pick Irvin here based on some other things I've heard today, so I guess I'm taking the bait.

What I do know for certain, per trusted sources, is that this pick will not be used on a receiver. It'll be the top rush linebacker or right tackle available on Houston's board.

I also find the receiver comment quite interesting.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2012_1.php

Thorn
04-26-2012, 01:01 PM
I just don't trust those "trusted sources". LOL

The Texans will pick someone that fits into the team BOTH professionally and personally. You know they use both those criteria. I'll bet if a really hot reciever falls and that guy is a "nice guy" and a hell of an athelitic, they'll take him.

Rey
04-26-2012, 01:01 PM
I'd be thrilled with a Bruce Irvin pick up. Instant impact player to the defense.

b0ng
04-26-2012, 01:16 PM
It's not officially draft day without. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

badboy
04-26-2012, 02:12 PM
I had a dream last night that the Texans took Kendall Wright. Fleener dropped to the Colts and the ended up with him and Luck.You may have dreamed what will happen as it could well work just like that.

silentassassin
04-26-2012, 02:55 PM
Apparently it's Bruce Irvin

I'm going with Bruce Irvin, just for the hell of it. The helicopter story seemed pretty bizarre, and it would be hilarious to find out that the Texans were the one.

ThaShark316
04-26-2012, 03:00 PM
**** it...

Coby Fleener.

If not (kind of a long list) : Bruce Irvin, Shea McClellin, Whitney Mercilus, Nick Perry, Cordy Glenn or Jonathan Martin.

b0ng
04-26-2012, 03:01 PM
I read that Bruce Irvin ran the 3-cone faster than any DL at the combine this year. Food for thought.

nero THE zero
04-26-2012, 03:07 PM
I'm going with Bruce Irvin, just for the hell of it. The helicopter story seemed pretty bizarre, and it would be hilarious to find out that the Texans were the one.

If anything screams 'Houston Texans,' it's such a flamboyant and self-important act as flying someone to the facility in a helicopter for an interview.

Dutchrudder
04-26-2012, 04:23 PM
If we take Irvin over McClellin, I'll be pissed... I really hope Shea is there at 26, otherwise we should trade back.

Mr teX
04-26-2012, 04:29 PM
Sadly, i think they'll feel the WR class is too deep for them to take 1 in the 1st unless somehow Floyd falls to us; they'll go WR in the 2nd though. i also don't know if they're convinced they'll be able to pay Barwin next year if he has a good year & if they're totally convinced about Reed...plus we need the depth at olb as you can never have too many pass rushers so.............

1a: Nick Perry

1b. Courtney Upshaw

Allstar
04-26-2012, 04:31 PM
Wade Phillips ‏ @sonofbum

We we get to our pic we have already discussed which of the 6 we would prefer. There is also a chance that we could move back for more pics

Hardcore Texan
04-26-2012, 04:31 PM
Wright if he's on the board, if not Stephen Hill. :fans:

#26 Shea McClellin OLB

Fleener.

I am okay with any of these guys. And maybe Ruben Randle. But my preference is Wright. If he's not there than McClellin. If both are gone than Fleener.

I seldom ever get a pick right, so those are probably not going to happen...lol.

Goldensilence
04-26-2012, 04:36 PM
Who I want: Fleener.

He's not an OD type of TE. This guy will create physical mismatches at the TE spot. We need someone who can step up with Dressen's departure and IMO Fleener can do that and more. He out produced BOTH our TE's last year snagging 11 TDs. I think he's easily the most immediate impact player available at this spot.

Who I am betting they they take:

Stephen Hill.

For better or worse this staff is all in on Jacoby Jones. He's going to be here next year. Book it. Hill has all the physical measurables to develop into a #1 receiver. They'll give him the year to develop and if he turns into an impact player as a rookie, I am willing to be its icing on the cake for this staff.

Mr teX
04-26-2012, 04:37 PM
It's not officially draft day without. . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZxNeFLuY98

Lol at the jets taking a freakin' fullback in the 1st round....has to be 1 of the worst 1st round picks ever!!!

Hardcore Texan
04-26-2012, 04:39 PM
Same here Thorn! I leave it up to all these younger guys to do the research for me! They do a damn good job of it too!!:) The draft process is complicated to me, so I keep it simple. Keep enough names in my old brain to make it fun, and a little interesting at the draft party.

One of the FEW times I buy the local ragsheet is the day after draft day! They'll analyze all the TEXAN draft picks and I'll become acquainted with our new Texans!! Don't really matter to me who they are!!

Yep. One of the few times I'll actually read the Chronicle. I'll read what they have to say, read what everyone on this board is saying, and I'll also google our picks as well. I really want to learn who these new guys are. But as we so often find out, what we THINK they will do, and what they actually do can be much different.

Pretty much what I do as well. I also enjoy the youtube videos that get posted about each pick so I can see them in action and start getting excited about the upcoming season!

:fans:

Oilers_57
04-26-2012, 04:42 PM
I read that Bruce Irvin ran the 3-cone faster than any DL at the combine this year. Food for thought.

I read that too.

Also (Irvin v D. Ware)

40 Time: 4.50 vs 4.56
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.03 vs 4.07
3 Cone Drill: 6.70 vs 6.85
broad jump: 10'03" vs 10'02"

Ware tested at 6'4 and 251

Irvin tested at 6'3 and 245

I could see Wade pulling some rope to get his D Ware in a Texans uni.

I just hope he wears #57 if we pick him.

I won't cry if Irvin is the guy.

burro
04-26-2012, 04:46 PM
Jonathan Martin, OT, Stanford.

That's my guess.

steelbtexan
04-26-2012, 04:48 PM
If we take Irvin over McClellin, I'll be pissed... I really hope Shea is there at 26, otherwise we should trade back.

Yep, McClellin pick screams Texans. I'm OK with Irvin but would take Hill,Martin,McClellin,Fleener in that order ahead of Irvin.

Ryan
04-26-2012, 04:52 PM
I'm gonna go with Courtney Upshaw. I think he's gonna be the guy that falls and the value at 26 for him would be too good to pass up IMO.

nero THE zero
04-26-2012, 04:52 PM
Wade Phillips ‏ @sonofbum

We we get to our pic we have already discussed which of the 6 we would prefer. There is also a chance that we could move back for more pics

Who/what's "the 6"?

Mr teX
04-26-2012, 04:53 PM
I read that too.

Also (Irvin v D. Ware)

40 Time: 4.50 vs 4.56
20 Yrd Shuttle 4.03 vs 4.07
3 Cone Drill: 6.70 vs 6.85
broad jump: 10'03" vs 10'02"

Ware tested at 6'4 and 251

Irvin tested at 6'3 and 245

I could see Wade pulling some rope to get his D Ware in a Texans uni.

I just hope he wears #57 if we pick him.

I won't cry if Irvin is the guy.

That's pretty impressive...I'm not a draft guru so i have no clue who this guy is. Do his measurables match his game tape? If wade is eyeing this guy to be Demarcus Ware 2.0.......i'm all for that.

ChampionTexan
04-26-2012, 04:56 PM
Who/what's "the 6"?

There was a previous tweet from Wade that stated when they get to within six picks of the Texans position, they'll start discussing the 6 remaining players they like best - knowing with certainty that at least one of them will still be there when they pick.

Edit: Wade's a pretty good follow on twitter for anyone who's interested in that type of thing.

Dutchrudder
04-26-2012, 05:02 PM
Yep, McClellin pick screams Texans. I'm OK with Irvin but would take Hill,Martin,McClellin,Fleener in that order ahead of Irvin.

If we trade back, I'll be OK with Irvin, but he is not a 1st round pick IMO. Not really a high second either. I'd rather have Lavonte David or Ronnell Lewis late in the 2nd than Irivin in the top 40 as some are projecting. Here's his game against Clemson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9s85CjEexg


Intangibles according to ESPN:

Arrested this past March the weekend after his pro day (March 16) for destruction of property and disorderly conduct after allegedly breaking a sign at a Jimmy John's sandwich shop in Morgantown. Ruled academically ineligible sophomore year of high school. Dropped out of school and struggled with off-the-field issues. Spent two years out of football and briefly spent time in juvenile detention center before earning GED in 2007. Grew up in Georgia in a rough neighborhood. Scouts will need to do some investigating on background. Attempted to walk on at Butler Community College in Kansas but didn't make the team and later enrolled at Mt San Antonio Community College. Played safety for one year them moved to defensive end to take advantage of ability to get to quarterback. De-committed from Tennessee and then Arizona State before settling on West Virginia. Some slight concerns about his ability to interpret and take coaching. Named team's rookie of the year in 2010.

Texn4life
04-26-2012, 05:40 PM
I'm gonna go with Courtney Upshaw. I think he's gonna be the guy that falls and the value at 26 for him would be too good to pass up IMO.

I think the same thing. I keep hearing people downplay his measureables, so I can see him easily sliding and he would fit perfectly in this defense with Barwin and Reed.

drs23
04-26-2012, 05:43 PM
If we trade back, I'll be OK with Irvin, but he is not a 1st round pick IMO. Not really a high second either. I'd rather have Lavonte David or Ronnell Lewis late in the 2nd than Irivin in the top 40 as some are projecting. Here's his game against Clemson:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9s85CjEexg


Intangibles according to ESPN:

The first sentence, which has been discussed in dept just screams a private helicopter ride to Reliant to me. :whistle:

Heath Shuler
04-26-2012, 05:47 PM
fleener

Spled
04-26-2012, 06:08 PM
I like what I see in Irvin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4e1SORdMPMQ

BullsOnParade
04-26-2012, 06:20 PM
I think it'll be him.

http://espn.go.com/photo/2012/0210/nfl_a_glenn_wm_600.jpg

But I wish it was one of these two.

http://dynastyleaguefootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/WrightHill1.jpg

GuerillaBlack
04-26-2012, 06:41 PM
Stephen Hill.

Nawzer
04-26-2012, 06:53 PM
http://oi46.tinypic.com/2lwk6eh.jpg

SCIENCE!!!!


that vertical is impressive..

Still not better than Tony Jaa

http://homepage.mac.com/merussell/iblog/B835531044/C969231614/E20060909151521/Media/theprotector.jpg

Thorn
04-26-2012, 07:16 PM
So, what'll it be, 10PM tonight before we find out? :kitten:

chicagotexan2
04-26-2012, 07:23 PM
So, what'll it be, 10PM tonight before we find out? :kitten:

This could be another thread by itself. I'm excited.

bckey
04-26-2012, 07:36 PM
Shea McClellin, OLB, Boise State

chicagotexan2
04-26-2012, 10:27 PM
The witching hour is here.

Texan_Bill
04-26-2012, 10:31 PM
I'm really, really cool with this pick!!! My old ass can go to bed now!!!!

*EDIT*

And BTW, Noobs.... We don't have to start 14 new threads about the kid from "the Fighting Illinios"!!

That said, I'm sure my friend.... the Bi-SoXual, longtime member "Illinois Jen is stoked!"



OOOooweee stookeeeeee something or another Illinis! ;)

Porky
04-26-2012, 10:35 PM
I seriousely doubt he gets past the Bears at #19. If he somehow lands at #26, I'll be doing backflips too but I really, really doubt he falls that far. Are you willing to trade up to #18 to grab him?

I'm quoting myself because I made these comments about Mercilous. I'm pretty shocked that he fell that far. Our D is going to be nasty next year.

Now let's get some toys for Matt and the gang!

nero THE zero
04-26-2012, 10:38 PM
26. Whitney mercilus, olb, illinois

:)

...

jaayteetx
04-27-2012, 01:17 AM
:)

...

Good call Nero and Topher too.

mussop
04-27-2012, 01:25 AM
26. Whitney mercilus, olb, illinois

nice!

bckey
04-27-2012, 07:48 AM
I'm quoting myself because I made these comments about Mercilous. I'm pretty shocked that he fell that far. Our D is going to be nasty next year.

Now let's get some toys for Matt and the gang!

I never thought he would fall to us either. I think the shocker though had to be David Decastro falling all the way to the Steelers at 24. The other shocker was the Chiefs taking Poe at the 11 spot.

Overall I didn't like the 1st round of the draft very much. It had kind of a circus atmosphere to it. Way too many trades. I guess it was a combination of a bunch of guys in the first round that graded out pretty close and the rookiie salary cap making higher picks much less risky cap wise.

HuttoKarl
04-27-2012, 09:39 AM
:)

...


I repped you on the pick...didn't see that coming at all.

ObsiWan
04-27-2012, 05:59 PM
Oh please, yes.

YES! YES! YES! YES! YES!

Jen... was that you?
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NhfjtOJetRQ/T3dPtAg2BsI/AAAAAAAAEpw/ypFG4zlJQyQ/s320/When-Harry-Met-Sally.jpg (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NhfjtOJetRQ/T3dPtAg2BsI/AAAAAAAAEpw/ypFG4zlJQyQ/s1600/When-Harry-Met-Sally.jpg)
:D

disaacks3
04-27-2012, 06:02 PM
26. Whitney Mercilus, OLB, Illinois

We have da' winner!!! :fans:

badboy
04-27-2012, 06:05 PM
We have da' winner!!! :fans:I hope you are more correct than your post.

disaacks3
04-27-2012, 06:12 PM
I hope you are more correct than your post.

After further review.... the apostrophe still comes AFTER the "a".

badboy
04-27-2012, 07:32 PM
After further review.... the apostrophe still comes AFTER the "a".

lol, I wasn't talking about punctuation, my friend. Although I can now see how you got that. I am hoping you are more than just correct on Merci being a winner. My bad for confusing.