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pec0sb0b
04-20-2012, 11:05 PM
Only six days left before the draft. Which players do you want to see wearing a Texans uniform in September?


I like these guys.

Derek Wolfe, DE/DT, Cincinnati
Height: 6-5. Weight: 295.

4/14/12: Wolfe performed well, yet flew under the radar at the Combine. He had a quality week at the Senior Bowl and had his share of wins. The senior had an excellent season with 70 tackles, 21.5 tackles for a loss, two forced fumbles and 9.5 sacks.

At the point of attack, Wolfe overwhelms offensive linemen with his strength and speed. He closes on the quarterback quickly and plays the run extremely well. Wolfe has a nice repertoire of pass-rushing moves, and he uses a strong rip move.

Entering the NFL, Wolfe has very good technique with a steady motor. He could be an ideal 3-4 defensive end. If Wolfe is going to stay as a 4-3 defensive tackle, he should add some more weight if he is going to be inside on every down. Some 4-3 teams could play him at left defensive end on running downs and move him inside in passing situations.

8/21/11: Derek Wolfe has had two quality seasons for Cincinnati. In 2009, he recorded 41 tackles with eight tackles for a loss and five sacks. Last year, he had 48 tackles with 6.5 tackles for a loss and four sacks. If he can stay consistent as a senior, it would ensure his status as a mid-round pick. If Wolfe has a big senior season with his scheme flexibility to play either a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense, his could raise his stock. - Walter Football

This guy looks like another J.J. Watt. He would go right into rotation with Antonio and J.J. and would be a disruptive force inside on passing downs. Has the quickness, bulk and strength to play every down on a Wade Phillips-style defensive line. Super high motor guy.

Why we need him
A 3-4 base defense is usually on the field roughly 40% of all defensive snaps. When the Texans shifted into the nickel or dime last season, J.J. and Antonio moved inside and Mario (initially, then Brooks) and Connor played the 4-2-5 and 4-1-6 DE position to get all our best pass-rushers on the field. Now that Mario is gone, we not only lost our 3-4 OLB, but also our nickel DE. Currenty our nickel front four are Reed and Barwin At DE and Smith and Watt at DT. Barwin can play the position but Reed doesn't really have the bulk. Also, we only have two guys on the roster who can really play in the 5-technique DE in the base 3-4 (J.J and Antonio) which would be bad if one of them were to be injured. 3-4 defenses typically carry 5 or 6 defensive linemen while 4-3 defenses typically carry 10-12 defensive linemen on their rosters. In other words 3-4 defenses need linemen who can play multiple positions along the defensive line. So, we need a defensive lineman that can play in rotation with Antonio and J.J. in the base defense but also can contribute on passing downs. In other words we need another J.J. Watt.


Coby Fleener, TE, Stanford
Height: 6-6. Weight: 247.

Hands/after the catch: With this size, Fleener has a huge catch radius, probably the largest in this class. Because of that, he's a big target in the offense. He hands to go with it, too. Fleener routinely makes hand catches and secures the ball high in his frame after the catch. Doesn't necessarily have the elusiveness and agility to make defenders miss after the catch and is a fairly straight-line runner.

Release: Fleener has quick feet and gets off the line smoothly and in a hurry. Quickly moves past linemen and linebackers who try to hold him at the line of scrimmage.

Route running: One of the more unique things about Fleener is how Stanford used him. He was lined up in-line, in the slot, out wide and as an H-back. Because of that, and Stanford's offense in general, Fleener has advanced route running skill. He knows when to run a route fast and hard and when to slow play his route. Knows how to pick apart a zone.

Blocking: Needs to learn how to rely more on his frame and natural length advantage. Gives a good effort, but Fleener's technique isn't refined. He doesn't always get good hand placement and will keep a narrow base. Puts out a good effort though, so this will be a coachable area in the NFL.

Final word: Throughout the offseason process, Fleener has become everyone's favorite tight end. He's got impressive size, great straight-line speed. His strengths are evident. But Fleener is more of a receiving tight end than anything else. He's a little behind as a blocker and not overly elusive after the catch. Fleener is probably be the first tight end drafted, but he'll need to be put in the right situation to be fully utilized. - Dan Kadar, MockingtheDraft

03/22/12 - Fleener, the lone senior of Stanford's "Fantastic Four" and the one battling the hardest to be included in the first-round conversation, certainly looked the part of a top 32 prospect Wednesday, dazzling scouts with his speed, agility and sure hands. Fleener, measuring in at 6-5, 241 pounds, was clocked between 4.45-4.50 seconds in the 40-yard dash and more important, carried over that speed into a positional workout that featured several impressive catches, including one down the deep middle in which he was forced to turn back toward the ball and adjust to a high pass thrown slightly behind him. Fleener, NFLDraftScout.com's top-rated tight end, also tested very well in the vertical jump (37 inches). He'd proven his strength at the Scouting Combine by posting 27 repetitions of 225 pounds, tied for second among all tight ends tested this year. - Rob Rang, NFLDraftScout.com

Remember, now, that Kubiak values tight ends right up there with air and water and such...and that he just had to let go a tight end that he had for five seasons. You do realize, don't you, that there's zero chance we're getting through this draft without selecting a tight end. I know it's painful...

Why we should want him
He's fast...his unofficial Pro Day 40-yd time was 4.45. He's tall - eight inches taller than Kendall Wright. Advanced route running skills...huge catch radius...great hands...scoring threat...he would would have an immediate impact on the offense. He'll be the best wide receiver available in the late first round even though he's a tight end. Did I mention that he's eight inches taller than Kendall Wright?


*A parting thought on selecting a wide receiver in the first round...
After examining all the wide receivers drafted from 2000-2010, our statistics tell us that selecting a wideout is little more than a roll of the dice. Whereas you might strike gold with the Johnsons in the first round (Andre or Calvin), there’s a better chance you’ll get the other Johnson (Bryant) or a shiny new Reggie Williams or Matt Jones. We’ve found that only 40 percent (18 of 45) of wide receivers selected in the first round have worked out. - Charlie Bernstein, ESPN...it gets worse from there into the later rounds. http://www.espnflorida.com/insider-fun-with-draft-stats-wrs/

TheGoldenGreek
04-20-2012, 11:47 PM
I know the trend is for the Texans to select a receiver with the 26th pick, but I wouldn't mind seeing them nab either Jonathan Martin or Nick Perry instead. In my opinion, our first priority needs to be ensuring the run game doesn't miss a beat next season. That's where Martin comes in. Nick Perry would also be an exciting pick who would give us some much needed OLB depth with Mario gone. Also I think this WR class is deep enough to wait until the 2nd round to select one.

GP
04-21-2012, 12:43 AM
I have a man crush on Fleener for the reasons you stated.

+ Tall

+ Fast

+ Hands

+ Smart route running

This defense needs an Owen Daniels-type TE again, and I think this guy is it.

But ain't no way he is there at #26. He's going Top 20, easily.

The Pencil Neck
04-21-2012, 01:04 AM
I'm hoping Fleener or Kendall Wright drop to us at 26.

I wouldn't mind guys like Sanu in the 2nd or Childs in the 3rd or Toon in the 3rd or 4th. If Hanna (TE) falls to the 6th round, I'd take a flyer on him. He's got great measurables but it's scary why he didn't produce more.

Ultimately, I'd like to come out of this with an early (1-3) round WR. I'd like a talented TE to fill in the TE3 spot and hopefully develop into a TE1. If we can nab a later round OLB, I'd like that. If a good ILB falls to us in the 2nd or 3rd that could challenge Sharpton, I would like that.

This year, I haven't been following close enough to know everyone's names and weaknesses and stories. So I don't have any faves this year.

ObsiWan
04-21-2012, 03:21 AM
Count me in on the Fleener bandwagon. I've said as much in the mock threads. And it's mainly because I doubt that the 1st round quality WRs will be gone by the time we pick. And we all know how much we count on TEs in our offense. I'd like him as insurance in case G. Graham disappoints as the Dreessen replacement unit.

Having said that, if there's another budding J.J.Watt out there for Wade to add to his arscenal then by gawd, go git him!
:fans:

IDEXAN
04-21-2012, 08:09 AM
I know the trend is for the Texans to select a receiver with the 26th pick, but I wouldn't mind seeing them nab either Jonathan Martin or Nick Perry instead. In my opinion, our first priority needs to be ensuring the run game doesn't miss a beat next season. That's where Martin comes in. Nick Perry would also be an exciting pick who would give us some much needed OLB depth with Mario gone. Also I think this WR class is deep enough to wait until the 2nd round to select one.
Nick Perry will be gone - he's a 4-3 DE in college with loads of talent who also projects to rush-LB in a lot of 3-4 teams and it's just highly unlikely he'd make it to 26, but if he did I think Wade would jump all over this guy.
Re Martin, I'm hearing this guy is overrated but no matter, with 2nd year OT
Eric Newton backing Butler, I doubt that they draft another OT in the first 3, certainly not the first 2 rounds with the upside they see in Newton.

BullBlitz
04-21-2012, 08:36 AM
I hope Fleener, Wright etc are gone by 26 and we trade down.

Lucky
04-21-2012, 09:32 AM
Position-wise, I'm OK with O-line, OLB, or WR. Fleener would be fine as a TE/WR hybrid. The only top O-lineman I would have a problem with is Mike Adams (though I think Zeitler is a poor fit for the ZBS). I also think Kendall Wright is a bad fit in the Texans WCO. Otherwise, there are a dozen or more players that I think could be good fits and have value at #26. It's not as bad a spot as many suggest.

VTexan
04-21-2012, 09:43 AM
Really hoping for a trade down and score another 2nd round pick.