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CloakNNNdagger
04-01-2012, 09:19 AM
It is said that imitation is the greatest form of flattery. Seems like our own aj has pointed this out as relates to the once happless Texans offense.

Alan Burge
Houston Texans Examiner

Remember when the Texans were not so affectionately glossed "Denver South?"

Well those days are kind of over now that Denver no longer resembles what Mike Shanahan had created there years ago.

But the legacy is alive and well - in none other than Raider Nation.

When Texans fans watch the Raiders offense this season they will see some very familiar things.

New Raiders offensive coordinator Greg Knapp will undoubtedly bring a copy of the Texans playbook with him so the Raiders can implement their own version of the Texans/Denver west coast scheme.

It looks like they're getting a head start.

(Raiders QB Carson) Palmer wanted to get a jump on things, so he has been watching a lot of film of the Houston Texans' offense, for which Knapp was the quarterbacks coach the past two years. And Palmer has talked shop with Houston quarterback Matt Schaub and Matt Leinart, who played for the Texans and is now a free agent. "I am fired up to get my playbook," Palmer said.

In addition to Knapp, the Raiders signed former Texans starting right guard Mike Brisiel as a free agent and hired former assistant offensive line coach Frank Pollock as their offensive line coach.

On the other side of the ball, former Texans coach Johnny Holland is the Raiders linebackers coach.

The Raiders already have the pieces in place to implement the Texans/Broncos offense.

Palmer should be a good fit for this offense even though he's not the most mobile of QB's (Matt Schaub is?). Darren McFadden and Mike Goodson are a nice pair of running backs for this scheme.

The Raiders have speed and depth at wide receiver with Darrius Heyward-Bey, Jacoby Ford, Louis Murphy, and Denarius Moore already on board.

Tight end and fullback are areas that the Raiders may need to improve in order to realize the full benefits of the Shanahan/Kubiak schemes. Pollock and Brisiel's main task during the off-season will be to help the Raiders move back to a predominantly zone blocking system - something the Raiders ran under Tom Cable but got away from somewhat last season under Hue Jackson.

The Raiders might not get much help from the draft this year. Without the recently awarded compensatory draft picks, the Raiders would have had only two picks in the 2012 draft - a fifth and sixth rounder.

But the Raiders were awarded compensatory picks at the end of the 3rd, 4th and 5th rounds to account for the losses of Nnamdi Asomugha, Zach Miller, Robert Gallery, Thomas Howard, and Bruce Gradkowski during free agency last year. The Raiders do not have any of their own picks this year in rounds one through four because of various moves made last year.

The silver and black have been a frequent opponent of the Texans over the years but the only way these two teams will meet in 2012 is in pre-season or the playoffs.

SheTexan
04-01-2012, 10:47 AM
WooooHooooo!! Our Texans are just full of LUV!!!:) Bring um in, train um well, and send them off to some other team! We should be known as TEXANS training camp for the NFL!!:doot::winky:

GP
04-01-2012, 11:05 AM
I'm good with everything except the part about them contacting or having spoken with Matt Schaub. WTH? A current Texans player should not be advising or consulting with ANY other team out there. Especially one in the AFC.

Wanna' talk to Leinart? Fine. He's not here anymore. Our former coaches? Fine. But I was disappointed to read that Palmer and Schaub have been talking. Hopefully it was small talk and nothing in-depth and of a revealing nature.

Good luck Raiders. We have a WR named Jacoby Jones who would fit your new offense perfectly. We'll take two pistols, one set of brass knuckles, and a small rock of crack cocaine (for Hartmann) in exchange for JJ. Deal?

majestrate
04-01-2012, 11:20 AM
I'm good with everything except the part about them contacting or having spoken with Matt Schaub. WTH? A current Texans player should not be advising or consulting with ANY other team out there. Especially one in the AFC.

Wanna' talk to Leinart? Fine. He's not here anymore. Our former coaches? Fine. But I was disappointed to read that Palmer and Schaub have been talking. Hopefully it was small talk and nothing in-depth and of a revealing nature.

Good luck Raiders. We have a WR named Jacoby Jones who would fit your new offense perfectly. We'll take two pistols, one set of brass knuckles, and a small rock of crack cocaine (for Hartmann) in exchange for JJ. Deal?
Eh, I don't see a problem with it. Mainly because it was Palmer, not the Raiders organization, that was talking to Schaub to get some pointers. No different than when I call up someone with another company to find out how they do things at one of their sites, because it might be something that could benefit the organization I'm providing services to.

Playoffs
04-01-2012, 12:03 PM
I'm good with everything except the part about them contacting or having spoken with Matt Schaub. WTH? A current Texans player should not be advising or consulting with ANY other team out there. Especially one in the AFC.

Wanna' talk to Leinart? Fine. He's not here anymore. Our former coaches? Fine. But I was disappointed to read that Palmer and Schaub have been talking. Hopefully it was small talk and nothing in-depth and of a revealing nature.
Totally agree. Someone needs to have a chat with Matt.

chicagotexan2
04-01-2012, 10:54 PM
If by Houston west they mean only one playoff appearance in ten years then yes.

Lucky
04-01-2012, 11:00 PM
If by Houston west they mean only one playoff appearance in ten years then yes.
Ouch.

Lucky
04-01-2012, 11:05 PM
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Wanna' talk to Leinart? Fine. He's not here anymore. Our former coaches? Fine. But I was disappointed to read that Palmer and Schaub have been talking. Hopefully it was small talk and nothing in-depth and of a revealing nature.
I'm smelling a conspiracy.

http://misfit120.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/conspiracy-theory.gif

GP
04-02-2012, 11:19 AM
I'm smelling a conspiracy.

http://misfit120.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/conspiracy-theory.gif

Most definitely.

:spy: :tinfoil: :spy:

Norg
04-02-2012, 10:32 PM
nah we are the Texas Redskins !!!!!!!!!! LOL

fiasco west
04-03-2012, 07:47 AM
If by Houston west they mean only one playoff appearance in ten years then yes.

Man we just trying to enjoy this positive article about the Texans and you come in here with all that truth...