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House of Pain
03-21-2012, 09:30 PM
With all due respect to DR, who has been one of my favorite players since his arrival. When the Texans were ****ty, I knew it made him as mad as me. Yes, DeMeco was the leader of the Texans' Defense. However, I believe that this team has a leader and he's still under contract. His name is Wade Phillips.

This team plays for Wade. He's turned the defense around in less than a year. New players will enter a team where they have an identity and are expected to perform, instead of trying to establish an identity for the first time in their team's history. Give him some credit: he even taught Gary how to have real practices.

Do you know what heals the scars of losing favorite teammates to players on this team? Winning.

If last year's coaching is any indication of the status quo, then I think the Texans will do just fine, and hopefully the "Texodus" took care of the majority of the problems with our cap for the years going forward.

Come on y'all, can we at least wait until they are 'choking' games away in the preseason before we start throwing this organization under the bus?

Marcus
03-21-2012, 09:36 PM
Haven't you heard? Success on the field isn't that important anymore. Jerseys with your favorite player's name is.

Honoring Earl 34
03-21-2012, 09:38 PM
Haven't you heard? Success on the field isn't that important anymore. Jerseys with your favorite player's name is.

That's why I've always regretted buying that Charles Hill jersey .

TheMatrix31
03-21-2012, 09:41 PM
Haven't you heard? Success on the field isn't that important anymore. Jerseys with your favorite player's name is.


Nobody has said that. Good Lord. You people really take this hyperbolic **** to a new level huh.

Wade is the leader, and Cushing and Watt are the field leaders now.

fiasco west
03-21-2012, 09:43 PM
Yes winning cures all. We all know that, anyone that has watched any team sport for over 3 years should know that.

Some of us think that the loss of Demeco will make it harder for the team to win though...

Honoring Earl 34
03-21-2012, 09:44 PM
Nobody has said that. Good Lord. You people really take this hyperbolic **** to a new level huh.

Wade is the leader, and Cushing and Watt are the field leaders now.

Does Wade have a jersey we can buy ?

badboy
03-21-2012, 09:47 PM
More complex than this; Jonathan Joseph is leader of DBs imo. I agree with Phillips being the leader that entire defense looks to. He guides them, settles them, refocuses and encourages them.

TheMatrix31
03-21-2012, 09:51 PM
Does Wade have a jersey we can buy ?

He's got a pretty bad ass polo you could buy then take to the mall and have stitched up. Let me know how that works for ya, bro!

Apparently I must spread rep to other users before giving it to Fiasco West again.

Texan_Bill
03-21-2012, 09:53 PM
That's why I've always regretted buying that Charles Hill jersey .

After my $230.00 "SHARPER" jersey, I went this route:

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/013.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/014.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/012.jpg

That said, I thought I was the "smart guy", but NOW the NFL is going from Reebok to Nike....

DUDE, I don't wanna buy three more custom jerseys (in addition to the original Sharper jersey)... FML!!

Honoring Earl 34
03-21-2012, 09:55 PM
He's got a pretty bad ass polo you could buy then take to the mall and have stitched up. Let me know how that works for ya, bro!

Apparently I must spread rep to other users before giving it to Fiasco West again.

or I could just buy me a Texans shirt or two . I have a # 90 jersey but I like a Texans T shirt better . I really like a Texans baseball cap in red .

Honoring Earl 34
03-21-2012, 09:56 PM
After my $230.00 "SHARPER" jersey, I went this route:

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/013.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/014.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/012.jpg

That said, I thought I was the "smart guy", but NOW the NFL is going from Reebok to Nike....

DUDE, I don't wanna buy three more custom jerseys (in addition to the original Sharper jersey)... FML!!

Do you even remember charles Hill ?

TheMatrix31
03-21-2012, 09:57 PM
or I could just buy me a Texans shirt or two . I have a # 90 jersey but I like a Texans T shirt better . I really like a Texans baseball cap in red .

That will probably be the best course of action for you.

Honoring Earl 34
03-21-2012, 10:00 PM
That will probably be the best course of action for you.

It is but i do like going to practices and games . Who cares if I'm not a groupie I like the sport .

Kaiser Toro
03-21-2012, 10:07 PM
One jersey, since day one.

http://kochstory.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/i-xJvCBrS/0/L/377390272562487135315790956452-L.jpg

DocBar
03-21-2012, 10:11 PM
Texan Bill is the team leader in beer pong. :spy:

Brisco_County
03-21-2012, 10:14 PM
I nominate myself as the team leader in tequila drinking.

DocBar
03-21-2012, 10:30 PM
I nominate myself as the team leader in tequila drinking.Snort the salt, squeeze the lime in your eye and do your shot!!
:shots:

rush2112mn
03-22-2012, 12:35 AM
After my $230.00 "SHARPER" jersey, I went this route:

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/013.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/014.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/012.jpg

That said, I thought I was the "smart guy", but NOW the NFL is going from Reebok to Nike....

DUDE, I don't wanna buy three more custom jerseys (in addition to the original Sharper jersey)... FML!!

I hear ya......I have authentic jerseys and I am not going to buy new jerseys just because they change companies and maybe the design is different.

I know some people want to get new ones with the 10 year patch on it. I would rather get the 10 year patch and sew it to my authentic jerseys I have and not have to buy the new jerseys too.

Norg
03-22-2012, 01:20 AM
in this day of age i really dont think u need leaders

U need bwalers,PLaymakers,Beats,DOgs, and Freaks

11 people on D right well how about all 11 be leaders ........ :P

everyone just needs to know what to do do your job and when to do it they need to know what to do on 1st down 2nd down 3rd down and 4th down simple has dat LOL

DocBar
03-22-2012, 01:30 AM
in this day of age i really dont think u need leaders

U need bwalers,PLaymakers,Beats,DOgs, and Freaks

11 people on D right well how about all 11 be leaders ........ :P

everyone just needs to know what to do do your job and when to do it they need to know what to do on 1st down 2nd down 3rd down and 4th down simple has dat LOLYou forgot that we don't need no stinkin' grammar, either! J/k man.

Runner
03-22-2012, 07:16 AM
Re: Texans Jerseys, Throwback Jerseys, Polo Shirts, Sew-on Patches, Reebok Design, Nike Design

FYI, I think the Project Runway All Stars finale is tonight.

majestrate
03-22-2012, 07:48 AM
Texan Bill is the team leader in beer pong. :spy:
Shot pong FTW

SheTexan
03-22-2012, 08:00 AM
in this day of age i really dont think u need leaders

U need bwalers,PLaymakers,Beats,DOgs, and Freaks

11 people on D right well how about all 11 be leaders ........ :P

everyone just needs to know what to do do your job and when to do it they need to know what to do on 1st down 2nd down 3rd down and 4th down simple has dat LOL

Typical younger generation's way of thinking!! We don't need leadership, we KNOW IT ALL!! We'll just do our own THANG cause ain't NOBODY gonna tell us what to do!!! Geeeezzzz!! All "chiefs and no indians" type of attitude leads to FAILURE!! JMO!!

Runner
03-22-2012, 08:08 AM
Typical younger generation's way of thinking!! We don't need leadership, we KNOW IT ALL!! We'll just do our own THANG cause ain't NOBODY gonna tell us what to do!!! Geeeezzzz!! All "chiefs and no indians" type of attitude leads to FAILURE!! JMO!!

In reality the younger generation does have leaders, or they'd all be wandering around in disarray. There isn't enough variety in clothing style, hip electronics, music, etc. to prove that they aren't mostly followers.

This isn't a knock. It's like every generation before them.

===========================

To the point of his post, I disagree that they don't need leaders. Any group organized to attain a goal should have them to be effective, especially in an environment as competitive as the NFL.

Carr Bombed
03-22-2012, 09:17 AM
:rolleyes: people around here act like DeMeco was the only leader we had on the team... The title of this thread isn't even correct, because without Demeco we still have multiple leaders on defense. Last I checked Cushing was voted in as a captain mid season and Watt will most likely wear a C on his jersey next season..

Cushing
Watt
Smith
Joseph
Manning

All leaders... Demeco was simply the leader of leaders, because he was the elder statesman, but the torch has been passed and people need to get over it.

House of Pain
03-22-2012, 09:48 AM
In reality the younger generation does have leaders, or they'd all be wandering around in disarray. There isn't enough variety in clothing style, hip electronics, music, etc. to prove that they aren't mostly followers.

This isn't a knock. It's like every generation before them.

===========================

To the point of his post, I disagree that they don't need leaders. Any group organized to attain a goal should have them to be effective, especially in an environment as competitive as the NFL.

I very much agree with the first part, but I think you misunderstood me in my OP. I'm not saying they don't 'need' leaders, I'm saying that a new leader will emerge because Wade makes the right calls (thus far).

Runner
03-22-2012, 09:51 AM
I very much agree with the first part, but I think you misunderstood me in my OP. I'm not saying they don't 'need' leaders, I'm saying that a new leader will emerge because Wade makes the right calls (thus far).

I agree new leaders will emerge.

I disagreed with Norg's post, not yours. I was unclear about that.

jaayteetx
03-22-2012, 09:55 AM
One jersey, since day one.

http://kochstory.smugmug.com/Other/My-Smug-Mug/i-xJvCBrS/0/L/377390272562487135315790956452-L.jpg

Where was this taken? Haven't been boarding in a couple years, miss it.

Texaninlild
03-22-2012, 10:07 AM
When I hit major jersey re-sellers I see Williams, Ryans, and Slatton??? Really!! No respect. This is NFL Shop..FansEdge..etc..not mom and pop.

They do already have the new Peyton 'Broke Neck Mountain' Manning Jersey for the pony fans. There is a Jake 'Real Mountain Man' Gyllenhaal halo graphic imposed on the rear of the jersey with a pointer that says 'poke here'.

Could someone Photoshop that one up for future use when we go to Mile High??

Double Barrel
03-22-2012, 10:10 AM
D. Man was interviewed the other day right after the DeMeco announcement. He said it's a tough loss, but they will get over it and new leadership will emerge through OTAs and training camp. He considers himself one of the players that has to step up in a leadership role, and he sounded ready for the job and ready to lead this team to the playoffs again.

I will miss DeMeco, but this is today's NFL. Actually, it's been this way in the NFL for decades, but this is the first off-season after playoffs for Houston Texans fans, and in today's day and age of salary caps and free agency, this is the way it is for successful teams.

Accept it, live with it, and get ready to root your asses off for the 2012 Texans! :texflag:

paycheck71
03-22-2012, 10:17 AM
Haven't you heard? Success on the field isn't that important anymore. Jerseys with your favorite player's name is.

I know this would be an unpopular opinion with most fans, but why do grown men buy jerseys with some kid's name on them anyway? To me, if you're out of college, you have no business wearing a jersey with someone else's name on it. And putting your own name on a jersey is just a little too weird for me (sorry, Texan Bill) if you're not on the team.

disaacks3
03-22-2012, 10:28 AM
Haven't you heard? Success on the field isn't that important anymore. Jerseys with your favorite player's name is. Yep, right after I heard that are GM and coaches are perennial winners who can replace any number of starters at whim without any appreciable dropoff.

Playoffs
03-22-2012, 10:30 AM
His name is Wade Phillips.Wade don't ball. http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc366/PlagueEleven/Smileys/no.gif

Rey
03-22-2012, 10:36 AM
:rolleyes: people around here act like DeMeco was the only leader we had on the team... The title of this thread isn't even correct, because without Demeco we still have multiple leaders on defense. Last I checked Cushing was voted in as a captain mid season and Watt will most likely wear a C on his jersey next season..

Cushing
Watt
Smith
Joseph
Manning

All leaders... Demeco was simply the leader of leaders, because he was the elder statesman, but the torch has been passed and people need to get over it.

msr.

Rey
03-22-2012, 10:41 AM
I know this would be an unpopular opinion with most fans, but why do grown men buy jerseys with some kid's name on them anyway? To me, if you're out of college, you have no business wearing a jersey with someone else's name on it. And putting your own name on a jersey is just a little too weird for me (sorry, Texan Bill) if you're not on the team.

People have different views on stuff, and I don't try to rub my views off on anyone else. I get you feeling that way, but some people like to wear Jerseys with players names on them. Not a big deal. And really no need to be condescending towards them.

Hervoyel
03-22-2012, 10:50 AM
I know this would be an unpopular opinion with most fans, but why do grown men buy jerseys with some kid's name on them anyway? To me, if you're out of college, you have no business wearing a jersey with someone else's name on it. And putting your own name on a jersey is just a little too weird for me (sorry, Texan Bill) if you're not on the team.

I don't know, I like them. I wear one every friday to work during football season (It's kind of an office-wide thing) and I wear one on Sunday even if I'm just sitting at home by myself watching the game.

I think I have "business" wearing anything I feel like wearing and I've noticed a distinct case of "I don't give a rat's posterior what anyone else thinks" settling in as I get older. I wear what I want and don't worry about what anyone else thinks.

The cost of jerseys is insane. I buy fakes because I think that $25 is about all they're worth to me. The real ones are grossly overpriced in my opinion.

I have a couple of the real $200+ ones but I bought them on ebay used. My Blue Schaub was a Carr #8. The other one I have is entirely blank now. It was a Boselli that I'm turning into one with my name on it.

In this last batch of players moving I had one jersey go "redundent" on me. My Mario Williams jersey is now DOA. I'm out $25 so no big deal.

paycheck71
03-22-2012, 10:51 AM
People have different views on stuff, and I don't try to rub my views off on anyone else. I get you feeling that way, but some people like to wear Jerseys with players names on them. Not a big deal. And really no need to be condescending towards them.

Not trying to be condescending, sorry if I came across that way. Just wanted to see what people thought. Most people I know feel similarly to me, but I see thousands of jerseys at games every Sunday.

I still wear hats, shirts, and sweaters with team's logo on it, btw.

Again, sorry if I sounded condescending.

paycheck71
03-22-2012, 10:53 AM
I think I have "business" wearing anything I feel like wearing and I've noticed a distinct case of "I don't give a rat's posterior what anyone else thinks" settling in as I get older. I wear what I want and don't worry about what anyone else thinks

I know that feeling very well. :) Not trying to tell anyone what to do. Just wanted to hear opinions.

GP
03-22-2012, 10:58 AM
I have a Battle Red #80 jersey, but cannot wear it because we lose every time I wear it. Just the worse feeling in the world. I'll go with a standard Texans t-shirt one Sunday, we win. So I crack out the AJ jersey the next week and we lose.

Then my head starts spinning..."Do I wear the t-shirt next week?" So I wear the shirt the next Sunday and we win. FML.

In 2011, when we went on the winning streak...the AJ jersey stayed locked up at a location my wife wouldn't tell me of. That way I had no chance to ruin the streak even if I wanted to. :(

Rey
03-22-2012, 11:34 AM
Not trying to be condescending, sorry if I came across that way. Just wanted to see what people thought. Most people I know feel similarly to me, but I see thousands of jerseys at games every Sunday.

I still wear hats, shirts, and sweaters with team's logo on it, btw.

Again, sorry if I sounded condescending.

Honestly, I feel the same way that you do about the jersey stuff...

I don't know if it's because I played ball for so long or what, but I just don't feel right wearing a guys name on my back...

I'm like you...I only wear shirts that say Texans or hats or something...

Hervoyel
03-22-2012, 01:15 PM
I have a Battle Red #80 jersey, but cannot wear it because we lose every time I wear it. Just the worse feeling in the world. I'll go with a standard Texans t-shirt one Sunday, we win. So I crack out the AJ jersey the next week and we lose.

Then my head starts spinning..."Do I wear the t-shirt next week?" So I wear the shirt the next Sunday and we win. FML.

In 2011, when we went on the winning streak...the AJ jersey stayed locked up at a location my wife wouldn't tell me of. That way I had no chance to ruin the streak even if I wanted to. :(


Hate that feeling. I've got a couple of jerseys that are "verboten" because they're tied to bad losses in my mind.

Kaiser Toro
03-22-2012, 01:15 PM
Where was this taken? Haven't been boarding in a couple years, miss it.

Telluride, CO

GP
03-22-2012, 01:27 PM
Hate that feeling. I've got a couple of jerseys that are "verboten" because they're tied to bad losses in my mind.

I have even tried wearing the t-shirt UNDER the jersey, no dice. We still lose.

Isn't it funny how random those types of things are? I know that I'm not actively influencing the outcome of the game, yet the odd coincidence of how it keeps happening is just comical.

Goldensilence
03-22-2012, 01:35 PM
:rolleyes: people around here act like DeMeco was the only leader we had on the team... The title of this thread isn't even correct, because without Demeco we still have multiple leaders on defense. Last I checked Cushing was voted in as a captain mid season and Watt will most likely wear a C on his jersey next season..

Cushing
Watt
Smith
Joseph
Manning

All leaders... Demeco was simply the leader of leaders, because he was the elder statesman, but the torch has been passed and people need to get over it.

MSR.

Honestly, I agree on Demeco being the elder statesman of the defense.

The reality is the moment Brian Cushing stepped on the field the whole attitude of the defense changed. It wasn't until last year when they had a capable D Coord did we see results, but Cushing's attitude has seeped into the rest of the team.

Double Barrel
03-22-2012, 03:09 PM
Not trying to be condescending, sorry if I came across that way. Just wanted to see what people thought. Most people I know feel similarly to me, but I see thousands of jerseys at games every Sunday.

I still wear hats, shirts, and sweaters with team's logo on it, btw.

Again, sorry if I sounded condescending.

I know many people feel the same way about walking billboards for multi-billion dollar entertainment companies that you do about jerseys.

You walk around with a corporate logo plastered all over yourself and feel good about it. Some walk around with a player or personalized jersey and feel good about. Personally, I do both and consider it part of being a FANATIC. It's fun, it's pointless, and sometimes things in life do not have to have any other purpose than you like it.

I know people who think fanatics for pro sports teams are goofy. I sometimes feel that way about adults and their alma maters.

To each his own.

I live by this creed:

"No one can make you feel inferior without your consent."
~ Eleanor Roosevelt

I could not care less about what people think about me, including those that I deeply care about. I am who I am and vugg people if they don't like it. We'll all be dead in a 100 years so don't sweat the small stuff. :howdy:

Runner
03-22-2012, 10:52 PM
Re:

Re: Texans Jerseys, Throwback Jerseys, Polo Shirts, Sew-on Patches, Reebok Design, Nike Design

FYI, I think the Project Runway All Stars finale is tonight.

Mondo won.

Norg
03-23-2012, 01:01 AM
i dont buy players jerseys either i have a

#85 White one with my last name on it

and a #02 Texans Blue one

i wanna get a red one but dont know what to put on it i was thinking "Rage" would be cool something to do with battle red and the color red ... LOL

b0ng
03-23-2012, 08:20 AM
The answer to all your jersey problems is to only buy throwbacks.

paycheck71
03-23-2012, 05:07 PM
The answer to all your jersey problems is to only buy throwbacks.

That's a tough one for the Texans fans. Texans throwbacks go all the way back to... 2002...

Double Barrel
03-23-2012, 05:16 PM
That's a tough one for the Texans fans. Texans throwbacks go all the way back to... 2002...

hey, I found some on Ebay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=texans+boselli+jersey&_sacat=0&_odkw=texans+boselli&_osacat=0&_from=R40)! :fingergun:

IDEXAN
03-23-2012, 05:30 PM
Telluride, CO
You're kidding ! I could have sworn that was just a few miles west of Katy, TX ?

Texecutioner
03-23-2012, 05:49 PM
Haven't you heard? Success on the field isn't that important anymore. Jerseys with your favorite player's name is.

Do you ever get sick and tired of coming up with twisted rhetoric and bull**** like this?

Texecutioner
03-23-2012, 05:50 PM
After my $230.00 "SHARPER" jersey, I went this route:

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/013.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/014.jpg

http://i324.photobucket.com/albums/k325/Texan_Bill/012.jpg

That said, I thought I was the "smart guy", but NOW the NFL is going from Reebok to Nike....

DUDE, I don't wanna buy three more custom jerseys (in addition to the original Sharper jersey)... FML!!

Damn Bill is the Texans MVP!!!!! :fans:

b0ng
03-24-2012, 07:56 AM
That's a tough one for the Texans fans. Texans throwbacks go all the way back to... 2002...

Campbell, Moon, Givens, Pastorini, etc etc etc.