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badboy
03-21-2012, 04:04 PM
Ran 4.46 & 4.41
The 4.46-second performance should go a long way in establishing Wright as a late first-round pick with a likely destination in Cleveland at pick No. 22 in the draft.

Wright earned All-American honors in 2011 with 108 catches, 1,663 yards and 14 touchdowns, finishing his career as the most prolific wide receiver in Baylor history.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1114069-baylor-pro-day-kendall-wrights-stock-way-up

Playoffs
03-21-2012, 04:15 PM
Yep. Kid is a play maker.

Hand timed at the Combine people had him at 4.47. Don't know how they managed to screw that pooch, but NFL needs to fix it. Hurts players.

Blake
03-21-2012, 04:18 PM
He's still kinda small.

Rey
03-21-2012, 06:39 PM
He's still kinda small.

So is Steve Smith.

Blake
03-21-2012, 08:54 PM
So is Steve Smith.

And he's also a 10 year vet. All im saying is that I prefer a little size and bulk with a WR so you know they can withstand the hits in the NFL and out-leap the DB's.

Rey
03-21-2012, 09:12 PM
And he's also a 10 year vet. All im saying is that I prefer a little size and bulk with a WR so you know they can withstand the hits in the NFL and out-leap the DB's.

Not sure what smith being a ten year vet has to do with him being a very talented small receiver. My point is that I'd rather have steve smith that mike Williams. An I'd rather have Calvin Johnson over both.

I like height too...as long as it comes with talent. But I'm not going to pass up a guy I think is extremely talented just to take a guy that is taller but less talented.

Either the texans think wright is talented enough to take or they met with him to throw everyone off. I'm more inclined to think they have actual interest in him.

Kaiser Toro
03-21-2012, 09:44 PM
Smith has got a case of the Enrons, so I fully expect us to pass on this ten year talent.

Blake
03-21-2012, 10:10 PM
Not sure what smith being a ten year vet has to do with him being a very talented small receiver. My point is that I'd rather have steve smith that mike Williams. An I'd rather have Calvin Johnson over both.

I like height too...as long as it comes with talent. But I'm not going to pass up a guy I think is extremely talented just to take a guy that is taller but less talented.

Either the texans think wright is talented enough to take or they met with him to throw everyone off. I'm more inclined to think they have actual interest in him.

My point is that Steve Smith isn't good because he is small. He is good because he has been around the block and knows how to play the game. We obviously think of Wright differently. Yes he is talented, but I think Wright should be selected high second round. An example would be DeSean Jackson who I think was better coming out of college and went high two.

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WolverineFan
03-21-2012, 10:35 PM
Yep. Kid is a play maker.

Hand timed at the Combine people had him at 4.47. Don't know how they managed to screw that pooch, but NFL needs to fix it. Hurts players.

He was electronically timed at 4.6 because his hand moved first and they use the electronic time as the "official" time.

We all knew he was fast. You don't need a forty-yard dash to prove it. Just watch the film.

badboy
03-21-2012, 10:39 PM
And he's also a 10 year vet. All im saying is that I prefer a little size and bulk with a WR so you know they can withstand the hits in the NFL and out-leap the DB's.5'10 1/4 with 39 vertical leap. He historically has gone up against bigger defenders and brought the ball down in traffic. If one watched his games, it was not all RG3. Wright is a baller and so is Jordan White.

JimBaker488
03-21-2012, 10:50 PM
Yep. Kid is a play maker.

Hand timed at the Combine people had him at 4.47. Don't know how they managed to screw that pooch, but NFL needs to fix it. Hurts players.
And electronically timed at 4.6 because that method always records a slower time.

badboy
03-21-2012, 11:00 PM
And electronically timed at 4.6 because that method always records a slower time.So Hill ran faster than 4.46? WHew!

mussop
03-22-2012, 12:54 AM
Either the texans think wright is talented enough to take or they met with him to throw everyone off. I'm more inclined to think they have actual interest in him.

When did this happen?

otisbean
03-23-2012, 07:10 AM
Electronically times are slower, but they should be more accurate. I'm surprised they don't use a set up similar to track and field. Where the timer starts off a gun and and an electronic beam stops the timer.

Wright's slower combine time was due to a poor start, he just didn't get off the line well. The 40 is too short of a race to overcome a bad start.

Rey
03-23-2012, 08:42 AM
When did this happen?

At his pro day. It was reported somewhere here on the board and McClain also reported it on 610. Said the texans were the first team he spoke with.

El Tejano
03-23-2012, 09:07 AM
So what if we use the 4th we got from Philly and somehow use that to trade spots with Cleveland at #22 if Wright is there?

Rey
03-23-2012, 09:19 AM
My point is that Steve Smith isn't good because he is small.

Huh???

Who said a guy is good because they are small?

My point is that him being small doesn't keep him from being good...and in a lot of cases better than some of his bigger counterparts...

He is good because he has been around the block and knows how to play the game.

Steve Smith has been good for a while. He didn't just become good with experience. Not even sure what you are saying here.

We obviously think of Wright differently. Yes he is talented, but I think Wright should be selected high second round. An example would be DeSean Jackson who I think was better coming out of college and went high two.

DeSean Jackson has the talent to be a difference maker on offense and special teams. His ****ty attitue is what drops his value, but the talent is there.

And I don't think Wright and Desean really compare...Wright is a bit more solidly built, he catches balls in traffic better, but he doesn't have the wheels that Desean does.

76Texan
03-23-2012, 01:43 PM
Like I said, I needed to see Wright to run a 4.37 consistently to put him the first round (or at least a consitent 4.39). He didn't.

otisbean
03-23-2012, 06:29 PM
Like I said, I needed to see Wright to run a 4.37 consistently to put him the first round (or at least a consitent 4.39). He didn't.

Why a 4.37 specifically? Walterfootball had him at a 4.41 at his pro day. In a track meet a .04 difference would essentially be a photo finish. Why would that infantessimal difference in speed make any difference on a football field?

otisbean
03-23-2012, 06:34 PM
For the record, Steve Smith ran a 4.41 40 in 01. I can guarantee you if there was a redo of that draft he'd go in rd 1

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=60492&draftyear=2001&genpos=

These ultra small differences in speed are only important in track and field where the absolute fastest time matters.

76Texan
03-24-2012, 01:37 AM
Why a 4.37 specifically? Walterfootball had him at a 4.41 at his pro day. In a track meet a .04 difference would essentially be a photo finish. Why would that infantessimal difference in speed make any difference on a football field?

One of the guys (and I swear for some reason I always get badboy and beerlover mixed-up) was saying that Wright ran a 4.39 before the combine.

I brought up a few different guys to show my point of view that for a small guy (even accounting for his jumping ability and his agility - meaning taking into account all the tests 20SS, 3-cone, high jump, broad jump), to be considered as a speedster/burner, the guy has to run some 4.37 to really be a force such that the CB has to either jam him hard at the line or play off him in honor of the speed.

As an example, I could bring up Patrick Edwards (UH).
When I watched the two of them (Edwards vs. Wright) running deep routes (go route/post route) I noticed the clock.

I would watch them running a free release, let's say from just outside the numbers on a post route to straight between the hashes. I freeze framed and tried to look for as close of a course they ran on that certain route. There was basically no difference I can make out. However, as Wright is bigger and a hair taller, I would have to give it to Wright.

I hope I make a little sense?

jradMIT
03-27-2012, 08:57 PM
I believe Kendall Wright might be the best WR of the bunch when its all said and done. He is extremely explosive, moves well laterally and a threat to score at any time. Has great ball skills. He also was very productive. I don't care so much about small differences in 40 time, when you look at the film he flies. He hits full speed almost immediately. Look at his measurables in comparison to Steve Smith. He is a little taller and bigger, faster in the cone and shuttle with identical vertical and broad jump. Wright has decent strength with 14 reps and never missed a game in 4 years. He might be short but he is built. I think he would be killer in Play action over the top plus running those drags across the field behind the LB's. If the Texans can move up to around 17-18 they could probably get him and it won't cost a king's ransom.


Kendall Wright 5 - 10 196
Arm 30.5
Hand 8.5

40 Yard Dash: 4.45 seconds
20 Yard Dash: n/a
10 Yard Dash: n/a
Bench Press: 14 reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 38.5 inches
Broad Jump: 121 inches
Shuttle: 4.18
Three Cone: 6.93

Last college season 108 rec 1663 yds 15.4 ypc 14 td

Steve smith 5 - 09 184 lb

40 Yard Dash: 4.41 seconds
20 Yard Dash: 2.51 seconds
10 Yard Dash: 1.51 seconds
Bench Press: N/A reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 38.5 inches
Broad Jump: 121 inches
Shuttle: 4.25
Three Cone: 7.44

Last Season College Stats 35 rec 743 yds 21.2 ypc 4 tds

Rey
03-27-2012, 09:10 PM
I believe Kendall Wright might be the best WR of the bunch when its all said and done. He is extremely explosive, moves well laterally and a threat to score at any time. Has great ball skills. He also was very productive. I don't care so much about small differences in 40 time, when you look at the film he flies. He hits full speed almost immediately. Look at his measurables in comparison to Steve Smith. He is a little taller and bigger, faster in the cone and shuttle with identical vertical and broad jump. Wright has decent strength with 14 reps and never missed a game in 4 years. He might be short but he is built. I think he would be killer in Play action over the top plus running those drags across the field behind the LB's. If the Texans can move up to around 17-18 they could probably get him and it won't cost a king's ransom.


Kendall Wright 5 - 10 196
Arm 30.5
Hand 8.5

40 Yard Dash: 4.45 seconds
20 Yard Dash: n/a
10 Yard Dash: n/a
Bench Press: 14 reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 38.5 inches
Broad Jump: 121 inches
Shuttle: 4.18
Three Cone: 6.93

Last college season 108 rec 1663 yds 15.4 ypc 14 td

Steve smith 5 - 09 184 lb

40 Yard Dash: 4.41 seconds
20 Yard Dash: 2.51 seconds
10 Yard Dash: 1.51 seconds
Bench Press: N/A reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 38.5 inches
Broad Jump: 121 inches
Shuttle: 4.25
Three Cone: 7.44

Last Season College Stats 35 rec 743 yds 21.2 ypc 4 tds

Good post.

I've been high on wright for a while. Ive said several times that id trade up for him.

I've even made the comparison to Steve smith, but I had no idea how similar their measurables were.

I really hope we land him in the draft.

Lucky
03-28-2012, 12:23 AM
Look, you can matchup Wright's measurables with All Pro players, as well as players who never made it in the league. That doesn't tell me anything. Other than it won't be measurables that keep him from succeeding.

Steve Smith came into the league as a return specialist with little receiving skills. He had 5 returns for TDs his first two seasons. Then, Smith developed in the passing game, basically taking short passes and making DBs miss in the open field. Wright is very good after the catch, but not at Smith's level. Where Wright has Smith is in the ability to track and catch the deep ball. He is not as strong as Smith and will have more trouble getting off press coverage. Two different players, really.

Lucky
03-28-2012, 10:59 PM
Here's a piece from Pro Football Weekly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/28/qa-with-draft-analyst-nolan-nawrocki) addressing Kendall Wright's pro day:

Q: Who are some of the receivers who might be available to the 49ers at pick No. 30? Do you think Kendall Wright could possibliy slip that far to the end of the first round?

Nawrocki: The main receivers, Justin Blackmon and Michael Floyd, won’t be sitting there late in the first round. Those clearly are the top two. There are some concerns about the character of both. That is one common theme throughout this receiving class — all of them have some concerns off the field. I’d put Kendall Wright in that category. He’s a little bit too emotional. His work ethic came into question after his pro day. He bench-pressed 225 pounds only four times. For that reason alone, I think there’s a chance he easily could be sitting there at 30. I don’t know if he will slip that far, but I know there are teams that have him sitting in the second, even third round after that workout that pushed him down the board.

Kaiser Toro
03-28-2012, 11:25 PM
"a little too bit emotional" segues into work ethic, with work ethic being measured by 4 reps?

4 reps is a red flag for a guy that is expected to line-up on the line. However, the tape I have seen tells me he is a ten year stud in the slot, and would add immediate value to our WR corp.

Playoffs
03-28-2012, 11:31 PM
He bench-pressed 225 pounds only four timesThat kills him for me, period. Not that he's "weak", but that he didn't put any work into it.

Remember: When Jay Cutler had that mysterious illness and he lost 30/40 pounds and was just in a scary bad way -- the undiagnosed disease was diabetes -- Cutler got so weak he could only do 3 reps at 225. Wright does one more? No thanks. http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc366/PlagueEleven/Smileys/no.gif

Damn.

GP
03-28-2012, 11:36 PM
"a little too bit emotional" segues into work ethic, with work ethic being measured by 4 reps?

4 reps is a red flag for a guy that is expected to line-up on the line. However, the tape I have seen tells me he is a ten year stud in the slot, and would add immediate value to our WR corp.

Took the words right out of my mouth. I was going to say the same thing.

I'm not looking to see how long he can throw 200+ in the air while laying on his back. If I need to see that from him, then it means his ass got pancaked at the LOS and he's trying to get the CB off of him.

Dude is bank. Fort Knox style. Lock him up and watch the price of gold go through the roof. Biyatches.

However, I really expect him to go Top 15. Easily. Blackmon, Floyd, and Wright are all Top 15 picks. Period. I'm afraid the guy out of South Carolina might be the only chance at a potentially good WR we'll have IF we want him at 26. But that gets us too dangerously close to Jacoby Jones "project pick" territory for my taste buds.

I just can't sit here and think any of the 25 teams ahead of us are going to pass on Wright.

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 12:12 AM
I think Wright will be playing out wide on Sundays. He played the slot his first 3 years but exploded when they put him out wide as a Senior. I really like Wright and he has so much good tape but 4 reps of 225 is just horrible. I knew guys in High school that weighed less and benched 225 way more than 4 times. Bubba Crosby comes to mind.

Vinny
03-29-2012, 12:21 AM
I'm not sold on anyone being a sure pick out of this group of players at 1. Early on I was hoping for a wr here but I'm not so much now.

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 12:31 AM
I believe Kendall Wright might be the best WR of the bunch when its all said and done. He is extremely explosive, moves well laterally and a threat to score at any time. Has great ball skills. He also was very productive. I don't care so much about small differences in 40 time, when you look at the film he flies. He hits full speed almost immediately. Look at his measurables in comparison to Steve Smith. He is a little taller and bigger, faster in the cone and shuttle with identical vertical and broad jump. Wright has decent strength with 14 reps and never missed a game in 4 years. He might be short but he is built. I think he would be killer in Play action over the top plus running those drags across the field behind the LB's. If the Texans can move up to around 17-18 they could probably get him and it won't cost a king's ransom.


Kendall Wright 5 - 10 196
Arm 30.5
Hand 8.5

40 Yard Dash: 4.45 seconds
20 Yard Dash: n/a
10 Yard Dash: n/a
Bench Press: 14 reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 38.5 inches
Broad Jump: 121 inches
Shuttle: 4.18
Three Cone: 6.93

Last college season 108 rec 1663 yds 15.4 ypc 14 td

Steve smith 5 - 09 184 lb

40 Yard Dash: 4.41 seconds
20 Yard Dash: 2.51 seconds
10 Yard Dash: 1.51 seconds
Bench Press: N/A reps (225 lb)
Vertical Leap: 38.5 inches
Broad Jump: 121 inches
Shuttle: 4.25
Three Cone: 7.44

Last Season College Stats 35 rec 743 yds 21.2 ypc 4 tds

Here's a piece from Pro Football Weekly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/28/qa-with-draft-analyst-nolan-nawrocki) addressing Kendall Wright's pro day:

14 or 4...big difference???

steelbtexan
03-29-2012, 12:31 AM
I'm scared of Wright. The lack of strength/small hands makes me want to go another direction at 26.

Jeffery is nothing like Jacoby. Jeffery is much slower. But he's got great hands and is willing to go across across the middle and will take a hit but concentrate on catching the ball. However Jeffery is neither fast nor quick in and out of his breaks.

He is an all out comptitor going for the ball. Jeffery would be a great WR2 compliment to AJ. (RZ threat) His upside may end up as a highend WR2 unless he is willing to put the work in to become a WR1. Work ethic is the biggest ? with Jeffery.

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 12:41 AM
I'm looking for a another link because I have to believe that if Wright only threw up 225 4 times there would have been a lot of noise.

jradMIT
03-29-2012, 12:41 AM
I don't where this guy was getting 4 reps because I can't find them anywhere. Could all be smoke.

Lucky
03-29-2012, 12:43 AM
14 or 4...big difference???
I didn't see a link to jrad's number of 14 bench reps. And while I don't take a lot of stock in these metrics, it does backup what I've seen as a guy who will struggle to get off the line. As KT stated, Wright could be a stud as a slot receiver, who gets into his routes off pre-snap motion. But, are the Texans willing to select a slot receiver with a 1st round pick? I don't think so.

jradMIT
03-29-2012, 12:46 AM
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/2012/wr/kendall-wright/


For what its worth this says 11.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011/12/kendall-wright-scouting-report.html


This one says 14

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 01:00 AM
I didn't see a link to jrad's number of 14 bench reps. And while I don't take a lot of stock in these metrics, it does backup what I've seen as a guy who will struggle to get off the line. As KT stated, Wright could be a stud as a slot receiver, who gets into his routes off pre-snap motion. But, are the Texans willing to select a slot receiver with a 1st round pick? I don't think so.

I was questioning the 4 reps on the bench press, just did not sound right. We will just have to agree to disagree. Only time will tell. Personally I'm agree with Mike Mayock.

- “He was the headline; we already knew about Robert Griffin III. To me, it was an important day for Kendall Wright…When you put the tape on and you watch Kendall Wright play football, he plays fast. I don’t care what his 40 [yard dash] was at the Combine; the kid plays fast. He caught the football, he ran fluid routes – he’s a first-round wide receiver in my book. If he lasts beyond the top 20, I’d be surprised.” – Mayock on wide receiver Kendall Wright’s performance at Baylor’s pro day

Lucky
03-29-2012, 01:04 AM
http://sidelinescouting.com/rankings/2012/wr/kendall-wright/


For what its worth this says 11.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2011/12/kendall-wright-scouting-report.html


This one says 14
Obviously, PFW has 4 (http://www.profootballweekly.com/prospects/player/kendall-wright-1/). We weren't there, and I haven't seen a clip, but Pro Football Weekly seems like a more reputable source.

It should be noted that the link from nepatriotsdraft.com was last updated on 2/24, prior to the Baylor pro day.

Dutchrudder
03-29-2012, 01:51 AM
Just an FYI on some other guys:

Ryan Broyles 21 reps
Marvin Jones 22
Greg Childs 19
Michael Floyd 16
Rueben Randal 15
Eric Page 15
Justin Blackmon 14
Jarius Wright 11

jradMIT
03-29-2012, 02:05 AM
Ok, I didn't see it at first on PFW. What's weird is that PFW is the only site I can find this on. He didn't lift at the combine that is for sure. It seems strange that a guy that is a shade under 200 would be that weak and not have any articles or analysis on that fact. I would agree though that a guy that can only do 4 reps is of concern, especially since it is up for discussion whether or not he can get a clean release. However, I still think this guy is a big time playmaker that can be utilized all over the field with a good OC. He can take the top off the defense and open up the running game by keeping the safeties honest.

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 01:25 PM
The clean release could be a problem but I did not see anybody press him because they were afraid of his deep speed. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME TAPE OF SOMEBODY SHUTTING HIM DOWN IN PRESS COVERAGE...When he played Washington their highly rated CB, Desmond Trufant, whose own brother Marcus Trufant 5 11 197 is very adept at press coverage was not pressing him. Any video of Wright trying to implement the swim release, rip release??? We will have to see how good he is at using his hands to get off the LOS but I think it is unfair to say will not be effective when being pressed when to my knowledge there is no solid evidence to the contrary. Wright is 196lbs and with a professional training program statistically it is very probable that he will get stronger. Also Wright played the slot his first 3 years and was far more productive when playing on the outside. I don't think anybody would draft a slot receiver in the first round either...maybe the Bills or Raiders :) Here are his stats per ESPN.

CAREER STATS RECEIVING
SEASON REC YDS AVG
2011 108 1663 15.4
2010 78 952 12.2
2009 66 740 11.2
2008 50 649 13.0

Playoffs
03-29-2012, 01:51 PM
Here's a piece from Pro Football Weekly (http://www.profootballweekly.com/2012/03/28/qa-with-draft-analyst-nolan-nawrocki) addressing Kendall Wright's pro day:Been pinging a few draft analysts & PFW to verify this. Can't believe there's not more chatter about it if true.

Mr teX
03-29-2012, 02:08 PM
Look, you can matchup Wright's measurables with All Pro players, as well as players who never made it in the league. That doesn't tell me anything. Other than it won't be measurables that keep him from succeeding.

Steve Smith came into the league as a return specialist with little receiving skills. He had 5 returns for TDs his first two seasons. Then, Smith developed in the passing game, basically taking short passes and making DBs miss in the open field. Wright is very good after the catch, but not at Smith's level. Where Wright has Smith is in the ability to track and catch the deep ball. He is not as strong as Smith and will have more trouble getting off press coverage. Two different players, really.

Key point right there..i don't think people realize how strong Smith is. That more than anything separates him from other smaller built WR's to make it in the league. He is the exception, not the rule.

I'm not high enough on wright to select him in the 1st round. I think he's got talent & tons of potential..i just wonder about any WR coming out of a system like Briles. Typically, if they aren't in a wide open offense in the nfl, they're usually not all that effective.....mainly b/c they aren't that prototype WR. Look at guys like Welker. Pretty much a zero in Miami. Goes to the Pats in that spread-type offense & he's putting up HOF numbers. The same for guys like Lance Moore & Donnie Avery. Obviously there were other factors but the overriding thought here is that those type of WR's need that system to be that force rather than just being a fit in any system. & even then they still tend to get hurt alot.

GP
03-29-2012, 02:15 PM
I think I will bookmark this thread for future perusal.

Should be a helluva' discussion in September.

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 02:46 PM
If Wright put up 4 reps at his pro day more than one guy would be talking about it. I´m not comparing him to Smith. You do not have to be 220lbs to get a clean break off the LOS. Look at Percy Harvin or Mike Wallace or Victor Cruz. Steve Smith has freakish strength so that is an unfair comparison. First, cornerbacks do not weigh 220lbs, Revis weighs 198. If you look at most NFL CB you will see that they are not huge. Second, it is just wrong when one says that Wright will not be able to get a clean release when nobody ever pressed him. SHOW ME SOME TAPE. Third, Wright´s numbers skyrocketed when he was taken out of the slot his senior year. Nobody is going to draft Wright in the first round if they think that he will only be able to play in 3 WR sets...where does Mayock have him ranked? It might very well turn out that Wright will be dominated by press coverage but don´t say it as a God given fact if you do not have any tape to back it up.

76Texan
03-29-2012, 03:34 PM
..When he played Washington their highly rated CB, Desmond Trufant, whose own brother Marcus Trufant 5 11 197 is very adept at press coverage was not pressing him. Also Wright played the slot his first 3 years and was far more productive when playing on the outside. I don't think anybody would draft a slot receiver in the first round either...maybe the Bills or Raiders :) Here are his stats per ESPN.



Third, Wright´s numbers skyrocketed when he was taken out of the slot his senior year. Nobody is going to draft Wright in the first round if they think that he will only be able to play in 3 WR sets...where does Mayock have him ranked? It might very well turn out that Wright will be dominated by press coverage but don´t say it as a God given fact if you do not have any tape to back it up.
1. Wright still saw more time in the slot (I had reviewed some ten Baylor games).

2. From this vid, you can see that Trufant was on Wright only once (around the 2:03 mark in the vid) on first and ten. Trufant played off-man, and read the wrong route.

3. Baylor didn't play against good pass defense all year.
I'll get back to that later.

76Texan
03-29-2012, 03:51 PM
Pass Defenses that Baylor faced in 2011 and their ranking.

TCU - 60
Rice 112
Ks St 103
Iowa St 73
A&M 109
Okl St 107
Mizzou 94
Ks 110
Okl 79
Tech 66
UT 42
Wash 116
(I did not count SF Austin for obvious reason).

Mr teX
03-29-2012, 04:24 PM
If Wright put up 4 reps at his pro day more than one guy would be talking about it. I´m not comparing him to Smith. You do not have to be 220lbs to get a clean break off the LOS. Look at Percy Harvin or Mike Wallace or Victor Cruz. Steve Smith has freakish strength so that is an unfair comparison. First, cornerbacks do not weigh 220lbs, Revis weighs 198. If you look at most NFL CB you will see that they are not huge. Second, it is just wrong when one says that Wright will not be able to get a clean release when nobody ever pressed him. SHOW ME SOME TAPE. Third, Wright´s numbers skyrocketed when he was taken out of the slot his senior year. Nobody is going to draft Wright in the first round if they think that he will only be able to play in 3 WR sets...where does Mayock have him ranked? It might very well turn out that Wright will be dominated by press coverage but don´t say it as a God given fact if you do not have any tape to back it up.

Just b/c you don't see it on tape doesn't mean that it won't project to be a problem. Sometimes lack of seeing something on tape actually does project to it becoming a problem in the NFL.

It's no different than watching tape on a qb who operates 95% out of the shotgun. The lack of seeing more of him coming from under center can & has been a decent indicator of whether or not he can become a solid NFL starting qb b/c he'll likely be doing more of that in the NFL.

Tape is only as good as the competition the player is playing against & the variety the player sees & plays.

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 05:02 PM
1. Wright still saw more time in the slot (I had reviewed some ten Baylor games).

2. From this vid, you can see that Trufant was on Wright only once (around the 2:03 mark in the vid) on first and ten. Trufant played off-man, and read the wrong route.

3. Baylor didn't play against good pass defense all year.
I'll get back to that later.

You are right, he saw time at the slot and outside on as a senior. He made big plays at both spots and in my eyes showed the ability to play both positions, increasing his value. Versus Washington he was covered by 28 just about all the time but I would give a little more credit to Wright on that incomplete pass. Trufant was peaking in as KG3 rolled to the right but still bit on Wright's double move. Wright and Floyd both played against bad CB. When Floyd faced Florida State, who has Xavier Rhodes, he caught 5 balls for 41 yards. I need to see how much time he faced up against Rhodes but either way those are not good numbers. My main point was that you cannot say that Wright is only a slot receiver based on the premise that he will not be able to get a clean release of the LOS when facing press coverage if there is no empirical evidence to back it up. I don't think you were the one who made that claim.

76Texan
03-29-2012, 05:15 PM
You are right, he saw time at the slot and outside on as a senior. He made big plays at both spots and in my eyes showed the ability to play both positions, increasing his value. Versus Washington he was covered by 28 just about all the time but I would give a little more credit to Wright on that incomplete pass. Trufant was peaking in as KG3 rolled to the right but still bit on Wright's double move. Wright and Floyd both played against bad CB. When Floyd faced Florida State, who has Xavier Rhodes, he caught 5 balls for 41 yards. I need to see how much time he faced up against Rhodes but either way those are not good numbers. My main point was that you cannot say that Wright is only a slot receiver based on the premise that he will not be able to get a clean release of the LOS when facing press coverage if there is no empirical evidence to back it up. I don't think you were the one who made that claim.

You're are correct that I did not make that claim.
Wright saw more time as outside receiver as the season went along.
And he ran more deep routes as the season went along as well.
I wished I had made notes of the games I reviewed.
(I wanted to come back to, but there are so many draftable receivers and QBs in this draft it's impossible to have enough time on them all.)

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 05:17 PM
Just b/c you don't see it on tape doesn't mean that it won't project to be a problem. Sometimes lack of seeing something on tape actually does project to it becoming a problem in the NFL.

It's no different than watching tape on a qb who operates 95% out of the shotgun. The lack of seeing more of him coming from under center can & has been a decent indicator of whether or not he can become a solid NFL starting qb b/c he'll likely be doing more of that in the NFL.

Tape is only as good as the competition the player is playing against & the variety the player sees & plays.

I just don't see how one can definitely state that Wright not be able to play on the outside due to his inability to beat press coverage if there is no tape to support the claim. It is a valid argument but a given no.

76Texan
03-29-2012, 05:18 PM
Here's some notes against Iowa St. , which ranked 73 in pass defense;
Wright caught 8 balls for 69 yards (with long of 20.)

The best CB was Leonard Johnson, ranked as a third rounder by CBS Sports.
Johnson is 5-10, 196 lbs. Jersey number 23.

Iowa State Pro Day: Johnson was timed at 4.56 and 4.52 according to
one scout on hand for the workout.
(He ran a 4.65 at the combine).

Wright's 15 yd TD catch was against a zone, where the defense was so bad
they left him wide open. (Around the 12' mark in this vid). It was a good post-corner route by Wright though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxLUpImxcg

(BTW, somebody tells me what RG III was doing around the 11:50 mark in
the vid, LOL!)


Around the 22:01 mark, the RCB played man against Wright and came off
his poor attempt at blocking to help stop RG III on a run toward the
side line.

Around the 23:32 mark, Johnson was on Wright.
RG III didn't like what he saw and took off on a run to nowhere.

If you notice, Johnson was simply playing an outside receiver; he
didn't follow Wright around.

In this vid here, you see #5 Jeremy Reeves, a Jr, playing man against
Wright on a couple of occasions. This guy is ranked the 89 (out of
91) CB in the 2013 class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCFvEu3j1aU&feature=related

There were a few quick swing passes; I would have to go back and review the game to see all of his catches but I'm not sure if I have the time.

SW H-TOWN
03-29-2012, 05:25 PM
Here's some notes against Iowa St. , which ranked 73 in pass defense;
Wright caught 8 balls for 69 yards (with long of 20.)

The best CB was Leonard Johnson, ranked as a third rounder by CBS Sports.
Johnson is 5-10, 196 lbs. Jersey number 23.

Iowa State Pro Day: Johnson was timed at 4.56 and 4.52 according to
one scout on hand for the workout.
(He ran a 4.65 at the combine).

Wright's 15 yd TD catch was against a zone, where the defense was so bad
they left him wide open. (Around the 12' mark in this vid). It was a good post-corner route by Wright though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfxLUpImxcg

(BTW, somebody tells me what RG III was doing around the 11:50 mark in
the vid, LOL!)


Around the 22:01 mark, the RCB played man against Wright and came off
his poor attempt at blocking to help stop RG III on a run toward the
side line.

Around the 23:32 mark, Johnson was on Wright.
RG III didn't like what he saw and took off on a run to nowhere.

If you notice, Johnson was simply playing an outside receiver; he
didn't follow Wright around.

In this vid here, you see #5 Jeremy Reeves, a Jr, playing man against
Wright on a couple of occasions. This guy is ranked the 89 (out of
91) CB in the 2013 class.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCFvEu3j1aU&feature=related

There were a few quick swing passes; I would have to go back and review the game to see all of his catches but I'm not sure if I have the time.

Thanks, good observations. Please share when you find some more.

76Texan
03-29-2012, 07:28 PM
Vs. Oklahoma (ranked 79 in pass defense).

Jamell Fleming , jersey #32 is ranked as the #8 CB in this draft by
CBS. He's 5'11-206 lbs, with 4.53 speed and a pedestrian 34" vertical.
His numbers in the SS and 3-cone are very good, however: 3.97 and 6.71, respectively.

Jr Demontre Hurst jersey #6 is a fairly highly-rated prospect for the
2013 season (6th CB).

Soph Aaron Colvin (jersey #14) is one of the nickel backs.


Wright caught 8 passes for 208 yards and one TD.

I will pull up the game and fill in the missing parts when I have some time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6KG1eUf37w

76Texan
03-29-2012, 07:29 PM
First qtr

After a run, RG III went to Wright (right slot) for 80 yards.
The Sooners were playing zonel the safety (#30) read run and let
Wright run right past him.
The play was called back due to a hold.

EDIT:
Lewis was the LB lining up near Wright.; he never attempted anything except staying put in his zone.
The safety, inexplicably, was totally flat-footed.


On 2nd and 19 (not in the video), there was an incomplete pass to
Wright with a LB getting credit for a PD (Nelson,Corey).

The Sooners showed cover 2; however, they
switched to either cover 1 or cover 3 as the safety (#30) came down to
play the run. I'm not sure why the ball was wobbled (my monitor
screen on this PC is not very good). We can't see the coverage, but
it looks like the LCB Fleming (#32) played off the LOS in cover 3 and
gave Wright a lot of room.

EDIT:
The ball was batted down at the LOS by #7 LOLB_Nelson.
Wright found a good spot here (he was the wide-out n the right), but we want to note that the second safety (actually this was #14 Colvin (the sophomore nickel/safety) was dropping back from cover 2 to the middle of the field and was very late.
This pass, if it was completed, would have been due to schematic problem in the D.
Wright still had to catch the ball; and the safety - even though a little late - could still put a hit on the receiver after the catch.

On 2nd and 4, the Bears were in a 2-TE, single back set.
Wright looked to be in the right slot (I think there's a wide-out
outside of him).
He was covered by #14 (Soph Aaron Colvin).
It looks like the Sooners were playing man with single deep safety.
Colvin seemed to expect help from the safety #30 Harris
We can't tell how Wright beat coverage on this play.
The pass was long, however.


EDIT:

When I brought up the game, I can see a couple more things on the replay.
1. The nickel back Colvin turned the wrong way.
2. The single deep safety also played poorly (the TE on the other side never released); he should have gotten back deep quickly.
Yes, Wright's speed is good, but he was operating from the slot in this instance, and Manning/McCain won't allow him to get free like that.

Second series,
(3rd and 17) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall (Lewis,Travis).
Bears in a balanced shot gun spread' the Sooners played cover two.
It was unclear whether it was man or zone as the LB Lewis was on
Wright (right slot) the whole time.
Wright got to the soft spot in the 2-deep zone, but RG III threw a
poor pass that should have been intercepted by Lewis.
Good job by Wright to play defender on this one.

Third series:
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 8
yards to the BU32 (Lewis,Travis;Wort,Tom - both are LBs.)
Wright was in left slot; Sooners in zone, cover 2.
Tony Jefferson #1, a Soph CB was the nickel back.
It was an easy catch as Wort played too far away to do anything.

Fourth series:
(2nd and 12) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 13
yards to the BU42, 1ST DOWN BU (Harris,Javon;Colvin,Aaron). Not in
video.
The two defenders making the tackle was soph nickel bacl Colvin and
the safety Harris.

EDIT:
This play actually begin at the very beginning of the second qtr.
Wright went into motion from right slot to left slot.
The safety #30 played 10 yards from the LOS and backpedaling, giving Wright enough room on a simple 10 yard hook route. He gained 3 more yards as the safety reacted back poorly.

76Texan
03-29-2012, 07:30 PM
2nd qtr

14:15 (2nd and 6) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to
Wright, Kendall.
Bears were in 2TE set.
Sooners looked to be in cover 2, man under.
Wright was well-covered by the Jr Hurst.

5th series:
BAYLOR drive start at 07:50.
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 55
yards to the OU28, 1ST DOWN BU (Nelson,Corey).
Sooners played cover 2 zone under.
Safety #30 missed the first tackle.
Sooners LBs were fooled by the PA fake.
Wright was uncovered and ran into the void in the middle.
He then got a good block downfield by #3.
DE/OLB Ronnell Lewis then missed another tackle.
The notes to be made here are:
1. Wright was in the slot,
2. Will they let Wright run free in the NFL (look at the replay)
The two outside receivers were covered by 2 CBs and a cover 2 safety.
The other safety #30 was too far away from Wright (the one that came
up and missed the first tackle.)
3. Will the safety miss tackle in the NFL.
4. Will the RCB got washed away by the blocker in the NFL.

...

No other action in this quarter.

76Texan
03-29-2012, 07:31 PM
3rd qtr
BAYLOR drive start at 13:13.
(3rd and 11) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 10
yards to the BU33 (Lewis,Travis).
Another cover 2, zone under.
Wright was in the right slot and was tackled by the LB T. Lewis.


BAYLOR drive start at 11:11.
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 7
yards to the BU35 (Harris,Javon).
Wright (left slot) was left all by himself until the safety comes up
to make the tackle.

(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall
(Hurst,Demontre).
Wright (left wide-out) was well-covered by Hurst #6, playing off-man.

BAYLOR drive start at 07:28.
(2nd and 13) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 87
yards to the OU0, 1ST DOWN BU, TOUCHDOWN, clock 06:39.
87yd TD catch by Wright.

The Sooners were playing zone; the safety already came off Wright when
he saw the pass thrown to the right slot receiver who ran a crossing
route toward the post from the other side.
The pass was slightly high and was tipped by the LB Wort.
Wright was in the left slot and ran a deeper post route.

This was a lucky throw.
Good concentration by Wright but he didn't beat anybody.

BAYLOR drive start at 03:55.
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall
(Fleming,Jamell).
Wright (top of the screen) was jammed and blanketed by the LCB Fleming.

(3rd and 10) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 16
yards to the BU31, 1ST DOWN BU.
Wright went into motion into the right slot and ran to the empty spot
in cover 2.
The MLB came up to check RG III on the scramble.
Either a nickel back or another LB didn't stretch his zone to follow Wright.

EDIT:
It was the LB Lewis that didn't stretch his zone, but he wasn't the true problem.
One safety played way too deep and the other simply turned and ran in a different direction (on the other side of the field); he was interested in just helping the other two defenders on that side. Wright was "simply" not covered by anybody.

76Texan
03-30-2012, 12:06 AM
4th Qtr

BAYLOR drive start at 14:10.
(1st and 10) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall.
Not shown in video.
Bad snap, Ball thrown away

BAYLOR drive start at 09:45.
2nd and 6) Griffin III, R. pass incomplete to Wright, Kendall
(Colvin,Aaron), PENALTY BU substitution infraction 5 yards to the
BU24, NO PLAY.
Not shown in video.
Pressure, RG III threw another bad pass that two defenders fought each other for the ball.
A miss-interception right there.
Wright was the right wide-out; he was well-covered by #32 Flemming;
one of the two defenders that had the chance at the INT.

BAYLOR drive start at 00:51.
(2nd and 2) Griffin III, R. pass complete to Wright, Kendall for 12
yards to the OU34, 1ST DOWN BU (Hurst,Demontre).
Garbage time.
The safety was way off Wright (right slot).

76Texan
03-30-2012, 12:09 AM
By the look of the two games I just mentioned (Iowa St. and Okl. - two teams with decent-fairly good CB), there are plenty reasons for concern about Wright's ability to play on the outside at the next level.

I want to also note that RG III still has a way to go to become that "great" NFL QB that most everybody is talking about.

SW H-TOWN
03-30-2012, 12:31 AM
Thanks, that´s some very good stuff.

Playoffs
03-30-2012, 12:19 PM
Been pinging a few draft analysts & PFW to verify this. Can't believe there's not more chatter about it if true.Emailed Nawrocki.

He just confirmed that Wright only managed 4 bench press reps@225 lbs. http://orbiter-forum.com/forum/images/smilies/black%20eye.gif

"Work ethic is a concern. He’s in the third round on some NFL boards after the showing."

.

Mr teX
03-30-2012, 12:42 PM
Emailed Nawrocki.

He just confirmed that Wright only managed 4 bench press reps@225 lbs. http://orbiter-forum.com/forum/images/smilies/black%20eye.gif

"Work ethic is a concern. He’s in the third round on some NFL boards after the showing."

.

But to be fair this is the same guy who came under critcism last year for his scathing review on Cam Newton & well, Newton balled out last year.

SW H-TOWN
03-30-2012, 02:04 PM
Emailed Nawrocki.

He just confirmed that Wright only managed 4 bench press reps@225 lbs. http://orbiter-forum.com/forum/images/smilies/black%20eye.gif

"Work ethic is a concern. He’s in the third round on some NFL boards after the showing."

.

Would like to see a second source but if true that is just horrible. I saw Bubba Crosby in high school put up 225 more than that and he weighed less.

Lucky
03-30-2012, 06:12 PM
But to be fair this is the same guy who came under critcism last year for his scathing review on Cam Newton & well, Newton balled out last year.

True, but the pro-Wright crowd will point to Mike Mayock drooling over Kendall. And Mayock was one (of many) who bashed the Texans for passing on the great Reggie Bush. Every draft guru misses.

Goldensilence
03-30-2012, 06:24 PM
Comparing him to Steve Smith is a bad comparison, he's much more like DeSean Jackson.

Smaller WR with great speed and elusive in the open field. Just as much a threat at PR as well. To me that's added value.

I think the bigger question looking at WR in the first is...how much longer the FO thinks AJ can be elite. If they're thinking 4 years or so then IMO you can look at a guy who can be an elite #2. If you're thinking less you have to think long term can this guy develop into at least a real good #1 at this spot?

Again JMO.

steelbtexan
03-30-2012, 07:02 PM
But to be fair this is the same guy who came under critcism last year for his scathing review on Cam Newton & well, Newton balled out last year.

He didn't comment on Wrights ability.

He just pointed out that Wright only BP'ed 225 Lbs 4 times.

Knowing this give me Randle/Hill in the 1st. I'll pass on Wright. If he'there in the 2nd he would be under consideration. 4 BP's means this guys never touched a weight in his life. You've got to be able to beat press if you want to be able to be a WR1 in the pros.

I garuntee you that a WR1 will never be so weak he can only BP 4 times. That's pathetic for a world class athlete. (Which Wright is.)

Playoffs
03-30-2012, 07:43 PM
I have no -- zero -- doubt that Wright is capable of 10/12 reps @225 in short order.

My issue is with his work ethic. This may be the one & only chance he gets in his lifetime to make bank, to secure his future. And he doesn't put what most likely amounts to a month of work into improving his bench. That speaks volumes to me.

Now maybe he joins the Texans and witnesses how hard AJ works in the gym and how hard AJ practices each day -- maybe the light bulb goes off in his head and he changes his work ethic. But it's a risk, now. Not one I'm willing to take with my 1st round pick.

If we've learned one thing from Wade, it's that high effort/high motor guys are who you should target -- at least with your "expensive" picks.

Playoffs
03-31-2012, 05:19 PM
Glowing outlook from Rotoworld:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0AstbiM26zqkmdEV5OWxkNDJEc2Rsa0RTcHdheXlBb 2c&gid=3

KW #1 WR. We're talking in love review.

Rey
03-31-2012, 05:47 PM
Getting off of the press is more about your legs and feet than it is about your arms.

badboy
03-31-2012, 08:21 PM
I have watched Wright play and could care less how many 225s he lifted. The kid plays ball.Amazing how many mocks had him top 15 until he ran in combine. Didn't seem to be a concern about his work ethic then cause of his film.

Yaky
03-31-2012, 09:18 PM
Wright played bad college pass defenses all year long. Easy to look good against bad college DBs.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/02/23/12/Big-12-receivers-falling-flat-at-next-le/landing_big12.html?blockID=672294

Rey
03-31-2012, 09:44 PM
Wright played bad college pass defenses all year long. Easy to look good against bad college DBs.

http://www.foxsportssouthwest.com/02/23/12/Big-12-receivers-falling-flat-at-next-le/landing_big12.html?blockID=672294

Better than looking bad against bad college DB's...

Playoffs
04-01-2012, 12:26 PM
JoshNorris Josh Norris
@AsleepT He separates from every spot & every lvl of field. Not worried about work ethic. Only rare occasions do players not workout in NFL

In reply to…

@JoshNorris Wright managed only 4 reps benching 225 lbs at his pro day. What does that say about his work ethic?

Lucky
04-01-2012, 12:51 PM
Who is Josh Norris?

Playoffs
04-01-2012, 12:58 PM
Who is Josh Norris?Rotoworld -- just another NFL draft/film evaluator. Been trying to add film guys versus "writers reporting rumors".

Playoffs
04-10-2012, 01:29 PM
!!!

Lance Zierlein ‏ @LanceZierlein Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
League source informing me to "leave Kendall Wright out of 1st in your next mock". Not sure I'll do that, but interesting nonetheless.

wolf123
04-16-2012, 02:26 PM
I have watched every game kendall wright played at Baylor and I have no doubt that he will be an impact player.

Pros
-Elite Acceleration and Agility
-Excellent Leaper and Speed
-Elite run after the catch ability
-Great deep ball skills
-Leader, wonderful person. Great work ethic(I know first hand)
-Fearless over the middle
-Set up double moves great
-Durable

Cons
-Size, both height and strength below average
-Will drop some easy passes but has gotten much better
-Blocking, will not be a good blocker at next level.

I love this pick for the Texans because he will improve the deep passing game, Punt return and give the Texan home run potential on short passes. A lot of receivers taken in the first two rounds will be bust this year but he will not be.

Mr teX
04-16-2012, 02:48 PM
I have no -- zero -- doubt that Wright is capable of 10/12 reps @225 in short order.

My issue is with his work ethic. This may be the one & only chance he gets in his lifetime to make bank, to secure his future. And he doesn't put what most likely amounts to a month of work into improving his bench. That speaks volumes to me.

Now maybe he joins the Texans and witnesses how hard AJ works in the gym and how hard AJ practices each day -- maybe the light bulb goes off in his head and he changes his work ethic. But it's a risk, now. Not one I'm willing to take with my 1st round pick.

If we've learned one thing from Wade, it's that high effort/high motor guys are who you should target -- at least with your "expensive" picks.

Oh yeah? how much of that work ethic rubbed off on Ja-hoby Jones? Dude still has suspect hands & is a trash route runner.

wolf123
04-16-2012, 02:56 PM
JoshNorris Josh Norris
@AsleepT He separates from every spot & every lvl of field. Not worried about work ethic. Only rare occasions do players not workout in NFL

In reply to…

@JoshNorris Wright managed only 4 reps benching 225 lbs at his pro day. What does that say about his work ethic?

People questioning his work ethic are idiots.. I've seen this kids work ethic first hand and its not to be questioned. Him and RGIII set the tone everyday

powda
04-16-2012, 03:19 PM
How many reps would it take to make you comfortable? To me its a non issue. He can readily get stronger but not much faster. Hes got the wheels already. Nobodys going to draft him cause they want an overly physical wide out. His key attribute is speed. Dont try to make him a linemen.

badboy
04-16-2012, 03:34 PM
If I can get a 6'6" 245 TE who has good hands & runs good routes @ 4.45 speed who can play WR, I will go that way.

powda
04-16-2012, 03:46 PM
Wow. Good luck. And why draft that guy when you have casey. Funny how people saw new englands success with that and think kubiak should revamp his offense.

badboy
04-16-2012, 03:55 PM
Wow. Good luck. And why draft that guy when you have casey. Funny how people saw new englands success with that and think kubiak should revamp his offense.Funny how you can read 2-3 sentences and determine I want to re-vamp the O. Seems like your projecting your thinking for mine. If you have read, many of the posts about Coby Fleener are about how the guy can play WR or TE. Few his size can do both. Others have posted that Casey is not Fleener. Casey is a decent player who is not a starting TE, full back or anything else for that matter. He might develop but that is to be determined. I doubt few on this board think Texans will not get a FB before game one.

powda
04-16-2012, 04:04 PM
You can sale it but i wont buy. Fleener in the 2nd round is good value and i can accept it. Fleener in the first? Call 911 cause im going to jump.

badboy
04-16-2012, 04:09 PM
You can sale it but i wont buy. Fleener in the 2nd round is good value and i can accept it. Fleener in the first? Call 911 cause im going to jump.Luck in the second is a good value also but like Fleener will not be there at #26. 911 was busy so I called waste management to scoop you up. That ok? :thisbig:

powda
04-16-2012, 04:12 PM
911 was busy so I called waste management to scoop you up. That ok? :thisbig:

Ouch. I will say I have a handfull of exgirl friends that would agree with that.

powda
04-16-2012, 04:18 PM
I tried to rep you for that cause waste managment refrences always deserve rep lol

badboy
04-17-2012, 10:30 AM
I tried to rep you for that cause waste managment refrences always deserve rep lolNo problem, I don't have a good reputation anyway. Just having fun with you. lol

Playoffs
04-19-2012, 06:35 PM
Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Kendall Wright registered 16% body fat at the Combine, "one of the highest percentages for a WR in the past decade."

Lucky
04-19-2012, 10:30 PM
Evan Silva ‏ @evansilva Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
Kendall Wright registered 16% body fat at the Combine, "one of the highest percentages for a WR in the past decade."
You could make a case that once Wright enters a NFL training program, he can shed that fat and become quicker. I can see that happening. But at the same time, Wright will be even smaller than he currently is. His main issue as an NFL receiver will be getting off press coverage. Which is why Wright is a better fit as a NFL slot receiver, and therefore not good value as a 1st round pick. He compares to a Titus Young, Emmanual Sanders, or a Eddie Royal - all 2nd or 3rd round picks.

Playoffs
04-23-2012, 07:04 PM
The Eye in the Sky Doesn't Lie--Kendall Wright (http://thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/eye-sky-doesnt-lie-kendall-wright)

...Profootballweekly also stated that Wright’s body fat percentage was at 16 (presumably at the Combine), so I asked the wide receiver about that late last week.

“One of the teams that I visited this week and gave me a physical, tested my body fat and said I had 8.4 percent,” Wright said...

According to several NFL executives Thesidelineview.com spoke to in recent weeks, Wright is widely expected to go off the board somewhere within the first round. Regardless of the smoke screens that NFL teams are putting out this week, the bottom line is that teams go back to the film before they make their draft decisions. This time of year NFL evaluators frequently say "the eye in the sky doesn't lie" when asked if a college player will make a good pro, and most NFL personnel executives that I've talked to say Kendall Wright's film is as good if not better than any receiver in this draft.

read more: http://thesidelineview.com/columns/caplans-nfl-corner/eye-sky-doesnt-lie-kendall-wright

jradMIT
04-24-2012, 11:09 AM
You can't believe anything you read now, its all smokescreens. Wright has great film, the competition might be suspect and his size and strength as well, but I think he is at least NFL ready from the point that he can be put in the slot on day 1 and give us big play potential and a deep threat that we are missing. Depending on who is available of course I don't think he is a bad pick. Him or Hill is tough because one guy has a much higher ceiling but will probably need some development, long run vs short run.

texasam82
04-26-2012, 12:56 AM
How many reps would it take to make you comfortable? To me its a non issue. He can readily get stronger but not much faster. Hes got the wheels already. Nobodys going to draft him cause they want an overly physical wide out. His key attribute is speed. Dont try to make him a linemen.

Nothing about him makes me feel good about a first round pick... If RG3 was not his QB he would not be in consideration. Lets not let him ride coat tails all the way into Reliant.

I'm always shocked how much politics and media buzz play into NFL GM draft boards... it really is quite bizarre

powda
04-26-2012, 01:17 PM
If RG3 was not his QB he would not be in consideration. Lets not let him ride coat tails all the way into Reliant.


And if Fleener didnt have Luck would we be disussing him? Problem with that thought process is your critical of a prospect because hes not the only talented (draftable) player on his team. That would limit about 80% of the draft prospects every year.

Isolate the player and judge him on his own merit.

I have some doubts with wright as a #2 wr but think he would be an outstanding slot reciever.

Bulluck53
04-27-2012, 02:47 AM
Thanks for this thread because the pick scared me when I first saw it. Your opinions have settled my feelings about Wright. :)

The Pencil Neck
04-27-2012, 04:18 PM
Thanks for this thread because the pick scared me when I first saw it. Your opinions have settled my feelings about Wright. :)

Trust me, that was not our intention.

:kubepalm:

badboy
04-27-2012, 06:22 PM
Nothing about him makes me feel good about a first round pick... If RG3 was not his QB he would not be in consideration. Lets not let him ride coat tails all the way into Reliant.

I'm always shocked how much politics and media buzz play into NFL GM draft boards... it really is quite bizarreThis doesn't make any sense. You seem to be saying a not so good passing QB & Wright's stats would not be so good. Wow! He had to get open, catch the ball, bring it in against bigger defenders and then do something with it and he did better than anyone except Jordan White. In Reliant stadium he would have been matched with a pretty good passing QB. Talk about bizarre.

Playoffs
05-10-2012, 02:44 PM
He bench-pressed 225 pounds only four times...Maybe that's not such a problem after all ... ?

But perhaps the most intriguing comment from [Chris] Carter came at the end of the interview, when he explained why receiver Randy Moss was vulnerable during his rookie season. Despite having the most dramatic impact on the game of any first-year player since Gale Sayers, Carter said that Moss couldn’t bench-press 225 pounds a single time when he showed up for work in Minnesota.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/05/09/carter-keeps-talking-about-bounties/