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03-09-2012, 06:03 PM
Team Needs 2012…Houston Texans (http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/03/team-needs-2012-houston-texans/)

March 3rd, 2012 | Author: Sam Monson

Our spin around the NFL brings us to the Houston Texans and their Help Wanted needs. The Texans played like one of the best teams in football last season. When they lost their quarterback, Matt Schaub, mid-season it torpedoed their chances at the Super Bowl, and they dropped out of the playoffs in the divisional round.

That being said, they made their run without some key pieces, which speaks volumes to the quality of the roster, much of which returns intact. They do have some key players hitting free agency though, so much of their off-season will be dictated by how they treat those players. In fact, their most glaring needs would come as a result of free agents allowed to walk.
Let’s take a look at what their needs are as free agency comes ever closer.


Primary Need: Center
Chris Myers (+32.6) was simply the best center in football last season. The Jets’ Nick Mangold started the season banged up, but even when he got healthy he couldn’t take back the lead of Myers in the PFF rankings, such was the play from the Texan. Myers has been steadily improving as a Texan and is at the peak of his game just as he hits free agency. It stands to reason that he should be looking to command some pretty big money. Having spoken to him though, he wants to return to Houston. The Texans have to want him back, because he is the perfect zone-scheme center, and they won’t find a replacement easily.

This is only a need if the Texans allow Myers to walk, and therefore the move to plug the hole is to find the money to re-sign Myers long-term. This is so he can anchor an offensive line that has been playing together now for a few seasons and getting better each one. Myers is an excellent player, but his value is highest to the Texans with their scheme. It is the one destination he is most keen on landing, so it only makes sense for the two sides to find a way to get a deal done. If they do manage to lose him, they could do worse than look at Samson Satele (+3.0) from the Raiders. Satele is a mobile, run blocking center who is himself best in a zone-scheme like the Texans run, and could probably plug the gap for a lot less money, even if it would be a significant downgrade.

Secondary Need: Wide Receiver
The Texans have one of the league’s best in the shape of Andre Johnson (+8.1), but they need to add some foil for him on the other side and also a bit more insurance in case he misses time again through injury. Kevin Walter (-0.5) is a solid player who doesn’t drop passes, but he struggles to gain separation and can’t assume the number one role. Jacoby Jones (-4.7) has never been able to raise his play to his potential and remains an inconsistent weapon. The Texans would become a much scarier prospect on offense if they had a legitimate receiver opposite Johnson for teams to worry about that could force them to play their coverages honest.

There is wide receiver value out there in the free agency market, but in truth this might be a need that is best addressed in the draft. If they do choose to look to free agency they are going to be targeting second tier players who can still do a decent job against coverage. Robert Meachem (+4.2) has never been able to distance himself in the Saints offense, but they will spread the ball to other weapons. He would likely get a much steadier dose of the football in Houston and could emerge as a real threat as he does have big-time potential. Reggie Wayne (+7.1) may be declining, but can still do some damage. He may be best suited as the second receiver on an offense, and would be an interesting option for a team that might consider loading up for a run.

Tertiary Need: Cornerback
There is an argument that nose tackle is a major need too, with Shaun Cody (-1.2) a player you can upgrade upon. The Texans are so quick to move to their nickel defense that I’m not sure it’s a big problem. Cornerback on the other hand is still an issue. Jonathan Joseph (+11.8) single-handedly transformed the unit from a disaster to mission-capable. He does need someone on the other side to keep an opposing offense honest and prevent them from just avoiding Joseph. The Texans though already make that tougher on offenses by using him to shadow receivers. The cornerback market is dwindling with the use of the franchise tag on some top players, but there are still options out there that would upgrade what the Texans currently have out there.

Carlos Rogers (+9.4) is almost certain to see the open market after the 49ers tagged Dashon Goldson. Rogers will be 31 by the time the season rolls around so how much of a contract can he really command? If the Texans can get him for a reasonable price for a few seasons, he could be a real boon for a defense that is very close to being an excellent unit. William Gay was a starter for the Steelers all last season and didn’t disgrace himself. He wasn’t the best corner in the world, but he wasn’t beaten for a reception longer than 27 yards all season. That kind of ‘tough to beat’ ability is more than enough to upgrade the current situation opposite Joseph and make life more difficult for opposing offenses.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/03/team-needs-2012-houston-texans/

SW H-TOWN
03-09-2012, 09:48 PM
I want us to get Eddie Royal. He will be cheap, is only 25, and can stretch the field. He had an amazing rookie season when Shanahan was his coach and Cutler was his QB. When McDaniels got there everything went to hell and last year he had Tebow as his QB. I think we need a new #2 WR and he could compete with Walter. I don't see anybody available at 26 who could start on day one. At the very least we would have to trade up to 21 to get Floyd or Wright.

Carr Bombed
03-09-2012, 09:52 PM
I want us to get Eddie Royal. He will be cheap, is only 25, and can stretch the field. He had an amazing rookie season when Shanahan was his coach and Cutler was his QB. When McDaniels got there everything went to hell and last year he had Tebow as his QB. I think we need a new #2 WR and he could compete with Walter. I don't see anybody available at 26 who could start on day one. At the very least we would have to trade up to 21 to get Floyd or Wright.

I would be pleased with signing Eddie Royal... He can return kicks as well.

Texan_Bill
03-09-2012, 09:55 PM
Re: Team Needs 2012…Houston Texans ????

Team needs? More like a fan's needs!!!!

A deep run in the playoffs AND potentially a Super Bowl!!!!!

Carr Bombed
03-09-2012, 09:58 PM
????

Team needs? More like a fan's needs!!!!

A deep run in the playoffs AND potentially a Super Bowl!!!!!

and cheaper beer prices, that's definitely a fan need as well. :)

SW H-TOWN
03-09-2012, 10:15 PM
I would be pleased with signing Eddie Royal... He can return kicks as well.

Rookie stats in Shanahan's offense. 91 catches 980 yards. I believe he was the # 2 receiver too. Out of all the UFA that are not Texans this is the guy who I could see the Texans going after.

TexanSam
03-09-2012, 10:25 PM
Rookie stats in Shanahan's offense. 91 catches 980 yards. I believe he was the # 2 receiver too. Out of all the UFA that are not Texans this is the guy who I could see the Texans going after.

He's been a big disappointment since then. I know he's not with Shanny anymore, but after his rookie season you figure he'd at least put up some good numbers no matter what the offense is.

He did have Tebow throwing to him this season so that has to be taken into account, but I still wouldn't offer more than a few million per year to him.

GP
03-09-2012, 10:31 PM
Eddie Royal? R u guys serious?

SW H-TOWN
03-09-2012, 10:45 PM
He won't cost much at all and I am pretty sure that the Texans are not going to sign Colston or anything of the sort. I think he would be cheaper and better than Jacoby. We could get a guy in the draft but anybody after the top 3 receivers don't really impress me and I doubt a Stephen Hill...ect would be ready to play at the start of next season. At the very least he could push Walter.

badboy
03-09-2012, 10:50 PM
Several teams desperately need QBs so when Peyton Manning agrees to play for Houston for less than $5m base and brings Wayne with him, we have improved on our QB and WR2.We trade Schaub, JJ and LeStar Jean to Miami for their 1st round. We select Michael Floyd who appears to have put his drinking issues behind him.

We have $20 m cap savings as it appears Mario will not be back. #26 for best 3-4 OLB.

welsh texan
03-09-2012, 11:28 PM
I'd be ecstatic if we picked up Eddie Royal! The guy is low risk and can probably had cheaper than Jacoby or Walter, and last time he played in our offense (under Shanahan in Denver) he looked a great player. Yet, he's had a few bad seasons bringing his value right down into possible range for the Texans.

Sign this guy to 1 or 2 years at $1.5m with incentives, draft another guy high, renegotiate Walter, cut Jacoby, and let last years promising UDFA's battle through camp for the final spots. That would be an upgrade to the unit and a saving against the cap, and Royal might possibly refind that rookie form and be absolutely sick for us.

b0ng
03-10-2012, 01:08 AM
Several teams desperately need QBs so when Peyton Manning agrees to play for Houston for less than $5m base and brings Wayne with him, we have improved on our QB and WR2.We trade Schaub, JJ and LeStar Jean to Miami for their 1st round. We select Michael Floyd who appears to have put his drinking issues behind him.

We have $20 m cap savings as it appears Mario will not be back. #26 for best 3-4 OLB.

A decent but currently injured QB, a poor man's Ted Ginn, and a never was. Sounds like first rounder to me!

NastyNate
03-10-2012, 01:41 AM
I would be pleased with signing Eddie Royal... He can return kicks as well.

He drops a lot of passes too, had a huge sophomore slump. Denver is my other team, watched a lot on Eddie Royal. I'd pass.

badboy
03-10-2012, 06:43 PM
A decent but currently injured QB, a poor man's Ted Ginn, and a never was. Sounds like first rounder to me!Skins: 3 firsts and a second for a RG3. Schaub's last two healthy seasons he passed for 9,000 yds.

2011 injured 2479 with 15 TDs and 6 INTs

A team desperately needing a QB could give up a first. The others are just extra. Many coaches think they can take others rejects and make better players. We have seen that with our team.

thunderkyss
03-10-2012, 08:33 PM
I want us to get Eddie Royal. He will be cheap, is only 25, and can stretch the field. He had an amazing rookie season when Shanahan was his coach and Cutler was his QB.

We're going to need a QB with a bigger arm

Kimmy
03-10-2012, 09:03 PM
We're going to need a QB with a bigger arm

Peyton? :stirpot:

Fili
03-10-2012, 10:58 PM
Peyton? :stirpot:

PEYTON! :doot:

welsh texan
03-11-2012, 06:12 AM
PEYTON! :doot:
get that sig out of my sight!

ObsiWan
03-11-2012, 08:02 PM
Eddie Royal? R u guys serious?

Why not? Would he not be an upgrade over Jacoby??
:texflag:

ObsiWan
03-11-2012, 08:07 PM
Several teams desperately need QBs so when Peyton Manning agrees to play for Houston for less than $5m base and brings Wayne with him, we have improved on our QB and WR2.We trade Schaub, JJ and LeStar Jean to Miami for their 1st round. We select Michael Floyd who appears to have put his drinking issues behind him.

We have $20 m cap savings as it appears Mario will not be back. #26 for best 3-4 OLB.

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ObsiWan
03-11-2012, 08:12 PM
Team Needs 2012…Houston Texans (http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/03/team-needs-2012-houston-texans/)

March 3rd, 2012 | Author: Sam Monson

Our spin around the NFL brings us to the Houston Texans and their Help Wanted needs. The Texans played like one of the best teams in football last season. When they lost their quarterback, Matt Schaub, mid-season it torpedoed their chances at the Super Bowl, and they dropped out of the playoffs in the divisional round.

That being said, they made their run without some key pieces, which speaks volumes to the quality of the roster, much of which returns intact. They do have some key players hitting free agency though, so much of their off-season will be dictated by how they treat those players. In fact, their most glaring needs would come as a result of free agents allowed to walk.
Let’s take a look at what their needs are as free agency comes ever closer.


Primary Need: Center
Chris Myers (+32.6) was simply the best center in football last season. The Jets’ Nick Mangold started the season banged up, but even when he got healthy he couldn’t take back the lead of Myers in the PFF rankings, such was the play from the Texan. Myers has been steadily improving as a Texan and is at the peak of his game just as he hits free agency. It stands to reason that he should be looking to command some pretty big money. Having spoken to him though, he wants to return to Houston. The Texans have to want him back, because he is the perfect zone-scheme center, and they won’t find a replacement easily.

This is only a need if the Texans allow Myers to walk, and therefore the move to plug the hole is to find the money to re-sign Myers long-term. This is so he can anchor an offensive line that has been playing together now for a few seasons and getting better each one. Myers is an excellent player, but his value is highest to the Texans with their scheme. It is the one destination he is most keen on landing, so it only makes sense for the two sides to find a way to get a deal done. If they do manage to lose him, they could do worse than look at Samson Satele (+3.0) from the Raiders. Satele is a mobile, run blocking center who is himself best in a zone-scheme like the Texans run, and could probably plug the gap for a lot less money, even if it would be a significant downgrade.

Secondary Need: Wide Receiver
The Texans have one of the league’s best in the shape of Andre Johnson (+8.1), but they need to add some foil for him on the other side and also a bit more insurance in case he misses time again through injury. Kevin Walter (-0.5) is a solid player who doesn’t drop passes, but he struggles to gain separation and can’t assume the number one role. Jacoby Jones (-4.7) has never been able to raise his play to his potential and remains an inconsistent weapon. The Texans would become a much scarier prospect on offense if they had a legitimate receiver opposite Johnson for teams to worry about that could force them to play their coverages honest.

There is wide receiver value out there in the free agency market, but in truth this might be a need that is best addressed in the draft. If they do choose to look to free agency they are going to be targeting second tier players who can still do a decent job against coverage. Robert Meachem (+4.2) has never been able to distance himself in the Saints offense, but they will spread the ball to other weapons. He would likely get a much steadier dose of the football in Houston and could emerge as a real threat as he does have big-time potential. Reggie Wayne (+7.1) may be declining, but can still do some damage. He may be best suited as the second receiver on an offense, and would be an interesting option for a team that might consider loading up for a run.

Tertiary Need: Cornerback
There is an argument that nose tackle is a major need too, with Shaun Cody (-1.2) a player you can upgrade upon. The Texans are so quick to move to their nickel defense that I’m not sure it’s a big problem. Cornerback on the other hand is still an issue. Jonathan Joseph (+11.8) single-handedly transformed the unit from a disaster to mission-capable. He does need someone on the other side to keep an opposing offense honest and prevent them from just avoiding Joseph. The Texans though already make that tougher on offenses by using him to shadow receivers. The cornerback market is dwindling with the use of the franchise tag on some top players, but there are still options out there that would upgrade what the Texans currently have out there.

Carlos Rogers (+9.4) is almost certain to see the open market after the 49ers tagged Dashon Goldson. Rogers will be 31 by the time the season rolls around so how much of a contract can he really command? If the Texans can get him for a reasonable price for a few seasons, he could be a real boon for a defense that is very close to being an excellent unit. William Gay was a starter for the Steelers all last season and didn’t disgrace himself. He wasn’t the best corner in the world, but he wasn’t beaten for a reception longer than 27 yards all season. That kind of ‘tough to beat’ ability is more than enough to upgrade the current situation opposite Joseph and make life more difficult for opposing offenses.

http://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/03/03/team-needs-2012-houston-texans/

MSR
Thanks for posting something that doesn't have us signing The Forehead or arguing "To Keep or Not to Keep, that is the Mario question"
It's soooo refreshing!

El Tejano
03-12-2012, 01:26 PM
Okay so I'm not going to begin to make it look as if I have any idea who we can and cannot afford but I'm looking at some of the FA available and if at worse I know we can still upgrade from Jacoby. I'm one who really doesn't want him to go but I can't argue upgrading his position. I don't think we are going to be able to pull out the cash for an upgrade over KW but perhaps we can get a player that upgrades Jacoby with potential to upgrade KW.


Some of the players I see available are:

Early Doucet
Roscoe Parrish (kr/pr duties too)
Eddie Royal (WCO familiarity)
Gregg Camarillo (KW replica, I will always remember the heart attack he gave me when we almost lost to the Dolphins by him punching out that ball when Eugene Wilson was returning it.)

Ted Ginn (PR Duties)
Donnie Avery (Might come on the cheap)
Donte Stallworth (probably comeo on the cheap).

thunderkyss
03-12-2012, 01:36 PM
Okay so I'm not going to begin to make it look as if I have any idea who we can and cannot afford but I'm looking at some of the FA available and if at worse I know we can still upgrade from Jacoby. I'm one who really doesn't want him to go but I can't argue upgrading his position. I don't think we are going to be able to pull out the cash for an upgrade over KW but perhaps we can get a player that upgrades Jacoby with potential to upgrade KW.


Some of the players I see available are:

Early Doucet
Roscoe Parrish (kr/pr duties too)
Eddie Royal (WCO familiarity)
Gregg Camarillo (KW replica, I will always remember the heart attack he gave me when we almost lost to the Dolphins by him punching out that ball when Eugene Wilson was returning it.)

Ted Ginn (PR Duties)
Donnie Avery (Might come on the cheap)
Donte Stallworth (probably comeo on the cheap).

I don't see the distinction between upgrading from KW or upgrading from Jj... They both need to be upgraded as they are both getting us pedestrian WR3 production. At least Jj was open enough to get balls thrown his way when Aj was out. Yes, he needs to catch the ball. & KDub needs to get open.

I personally don't believe either should be our #2. Don't care which one is our #3. It's 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.

El Tejano
03-12-2012, 02:17 PM
I don't see the distinction between upgrading from KW or upgrading from Jj... They both need to be upgraded as they are both getting us pedestrian WR3 production. At least Jj was open enough to get balls thrown his way when Aj was out. Yes, he needs to catch the ball. & KDub needs to get open.

I personally don't believe either should be our #2. Don't care which one is our #3. It's 6 in one hand, half a dozen in the other.

So you don't think the above mentioned players have the potential to also take over KW?

Playoffs
03-12-2012, 02:29 PM
So you don't think the above mentioned players have the potential to also take over KW?Eddie Royal maybe, the rest no for me.

El Tejano
03-12-2012, 02:32 PM
Eddie Royal maybe, the rest no for me.

He's actually the guy that really caught my eye when looking at the list. Roscoe Parrish, stood out too because he upgrades the PR/KR position too.

thunderkyss
03-12-2012, 11:05 PM
So you don't think the above mentioned players have the potential to also take over KW?

I didn't say that. My post should have read, "I'd take any three off that list to put some decent talent behind Andre."

SW H-TOWN
03-12-2012, 11:26 PM
All this cutting has me pumped. These guys are all under 30 millionaires and will probably get a job with another team. Hopefully Rick "I Like offing em Like a Boss" Smith can get a good UFA WR. Come on Rick!!!

Playoffs
03-13-2012, 05:01 PM
Sooooo, which Free Agents are scheduled to visit the Texans .... ???

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HOU-TEX
03-13-2012, 05:03 PM
Sooooo, which Free Agents are scheduled to visit the Texans .... ???

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Were you actually expecting any?

WolverineFan
03-13-2012, 05:30 PM
Sooooo, which Free Agents are scheduled to visit the Texans .... ???

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Hopefully none. We don't have the cap to go on a spending spree. Lock up our guys and move onto the draft.

Dutchrudder
03-13-2012, 05:33 PM
All we can do is hope that they re-sign Myers and/or Brisiel and a bunch of low level guys. I'm glad to see Demeco wasn't cut though, I really want him to prove himself this season. If he doesn't, then next year will be the time to discuss his future with the team.

Playoffs
03-13-2012, 05:37 PM
Were you actually expecting any?Maybe a courtesy phone call ... something to stem the emotional bleedout.

Playoffs
03-13-2012, 06:49 PM
I want us to get Eddie Royal...I would be pleased with signing Eddie Royal... He can return kicks as well.

John Clayton ‏ @ClaytonESPN Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
The Redskins are the early FA winners getting Josh Morgan, Pierre Garcon and most likely Eddie Royal.

:toropalm:

DX-TEX
03-13-2012, 06:52 PM
John Clayton ‏ @ClaytonESPN Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
The Redskins are the early FA winners getting Josh Morgan, Pierre Garcon and most likely Eddie Royal.

:toropalm:

How in the hell do the Redskins have more cap room than us?? AND they are going to have their allowed number reduced by the league. WTF is going on??

Norg
03-13-2012, 06:55 PM
i dont think the OP knows much about our team CB is no where on the map

esp when we drafted Brandon Harris and Carmichale last year

Playoffs
03-13-2012, 06:55 PM
How in the hell do the Redskins have more cap room than us?? AND they are going to have their allowed number reduced by the league. WTF is going on??Reported 16.4 million, and we were at 615,000 -- but still, isn't there a matter of lost cap room for the Skins???? Wondering if Snyder is just ignoring Goodell.

WolverineFan
03-13-2012, 06:56 PM
John Clayton ‏ @ClaytonESPN Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
The Redskins are the early FA winners getting Josh Morgan, Pierre Garcon and most likely Eddie Royal.

:toropalm:

That does not make them winners. They just signed a #2, a #3, and a slot/return guy for a combined $65 million. They severely overpaid for Garcon, which is exactly what happens in Free Agency.

Pantherstang84
03-13-2012, 06:58 PM
That does not make them winners. They just signed a #2, a #3, and a slot/return guy for a combined $65 million. They severely overpaid for Garcon, which is exactly what happens in Free Agency.

Yep. It just makes them the Redskins.

Doppelganger
03-13-2012, 07:00 PM
John Clayton ‏ @ClaytonESPN Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
The Redskins are the early FA winners getting Josh Morgan, Pierre Garcon and most likely Eddie Royal.

:toropalm:

The Redskins ALWAYS are the FA winners. Hasn't translated into on the field success though...

Norg
03-13-2012, 07:02 PM
Redskins all ways do this they dont Care about the Draft .... thats why they traded all there draft picks almost every year

All the players the draft they prob cut ... and build there team through F/A

thats just how snyder does it thats how he builds his team every team builds there team different