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Playoffs
02-27-2012, 10:26 PM
DL looks deep with talent/athleticism this year,

Running, these guys are flat off the charts. We've seen 340 lb. guys running 10 yard splits that equal last years average for OLBs, who are typically ~100 lbs. lighter!

10 guys less than or equal to 1.6 sec. 10 yard splits!

I wouldn't have an issue with Texans grabbing a NT at 26.

amazing80
02-28-2012, 11:06 AM
I think Fletcher Cox fits in well with our one gap system.....

The1ApplePie
02-28-2012, 11:23 AM
They were comparring Poe to Ngata last night. If he has that potential, you have to take him at 26.

Nick Perry was a beast at USC but I don't know how he grades at OLB.

Playoffs
02-28-2012, 01:07 PM
One of the D-lineman, defensive lineman, ran a 1.50 10 split...

NFLN just revealed Deoin Sander's 40 numbers -- 4.27, 1.50 10 split. (5 11 3/4"/182 lbs.)

BigBull17
02-28-2012, 01:14 PM
Poe put up impressive numbers, but the on-field production doesnt make me feel warm and fuzzy. Not sure what to believe.

NastyNate
02-28-2012, 04:33 PM
Poe put up impressive numbers, but the on-field production doesnt make me feel warm and fuzzy. Not sure what to believe.

Methinks the same thing. I just can't find any gametape of him being Haloti Ngata. He is mildly disruptive. How much interior offense line talent did he face in C-USA though?

Mr teX
02-28-2012, 04:35 PM
Methinks the same thing. I just can't find any gametape of him being Haloti Ngata. He is mildly disruptive. How much interior offense line talent did he face in C-USA though?

you even have to ask? Nobody of note. Furthermore Memphis was like 32847029 in the nation against the run. This guy will be this years Darius Heyward-Bey..book it.

NastyNate
02-28-2012, 04:42 PM
you even have to ask? Nobody of note. Furthermore Memphis was like 32847029 in the nation against the run. This guy will be this years Darius Heyward-Bey..book it.

It was a rhetorical question. I figure denoting that he was mildly overwhelming in the conference USA was enough to identify the context of my statement. It's hard to infer intent and tone from the internet though, I blame Al Gore.

And I'm already pegging Georgia Tech's Stephen Hill to be this year's DHB.

Mr teX
02-28-2012, 04:47 PM
It was a rhetorical question. I figure denoting that he was mildly overwhelming in the conference USA was enough to identify the context of my statement. It's hard to infer intent and tone from the internet though, I blame Al Gore.

And I'm already pegging Georgia Tech's Stephen Hill to be this year's DHB.

My fault dude...The Poe can be this year's Bruce Campbell then...:)

NastyNate
02-28-2012, 05:15 PM
My fault dude...The Poe can be this year's Bruce Campbell then...:)

Oh man, that's a perfect comparison.

Playoffs
02-28-2012, 05:47 PM
My fault dude...The Poe can be this year's Bruce Campbell then...:)Ouch, Bruce Campbell? Where'd you pull that from? Wow, repped for that name.

Line_Producer
02-29-2012, 01:40 AM
Ouch, Bruce Campbell? Where'd you pull that from? Wow, repped for that name.

If that wasn't sarcasm, he was referring to the Raider's reach for the combine smasher Bruce Campbell, not the awesome star of Army of Darkness. ;)

bah007
02-29-2012, 04:59 AM
Pop in Haloti Ngata's tape at Oregon and then watch Poe's tape and try to tell me that they are even remotely similar. What a joke.

I'll give the guy credit for being an amazing athlete, especially for his size. He's a better athlete than most of the top DL from BCS conferences. Which begs the question: If he is so talented, and played against a low level of competition, why does his tape look like ****?

bah007
02-29-2012, 01:21 PM
What do you guys think of Hebron Fangupo? NT out of BYU.

He played at USC before transferring because his wife was attacked in their Los Angeles apartment. He goes 6'1" 323.

I'm more a fan of the smaller NTs, but if we really want a plugger I like him in the 4th or 5th round. He is a limited athlete but very strong and tough to move. Plays high at times but that can be corrected. He is purely a two gap guy. He won't be getting anywhere near the QB on passing plays.

He is an older guy. Went on a two year mission before beginning his college career. Also seems to be a high character guy with a great work ethic.

I gotta say if we want a run stuffer I would rather take him in the 4th than Poe in the 1st. Poe is the superior athlete by far, but Fangupo looks better on tape. He destroyed the Texas interior OL when they played early this season.

Plus, he comes much cheaper. Which is great when you consider that a two gap NT won't be on the field on passing downs.

Playoffs
02-29-2012, 01:24 PM
What do you guys think of Hebron Fangupo? NT out of BYU.He popped for me, really stood out. Only concern, and it's a big one, is his age. Losing 1/3 to maybe 2/3rds of his football lifespan. But yeah, he had some business attitude. :aggressive:

bah007
02-29-2012, 01:29 PM
He popped for me, really stood out. Only concern, and it's a big one, is his age. Losing 1/3 to maybe 2/3rds of his football lifespan. But yeah, he had some business attitude. :aggressive:

The age doesn't really bother me. If we were talking 1st or 2nd round it would.

I think he will be 27 when the season starts.

WolverineFan
02-29-2012, 10:49 PM
Pop in Haloti Ngata's tape at Oregon and then watch Poe's tape and try to tell me that they are even remotely similar. What a joke.

I'll give the guy credit for being an amazing athlete, especially for his size. He's a better athlete than most of the top DL from BCS conferences. Which begs the question: If he is so talented, and played against a low level of competition, why does his tape look like ****?

I've been saying this all week. With his measureables he should have dominated in C-USA and yet he only garnered one 2nd team all conference selection in his entire career. Quintessential workout warrior.

Lucky
03-01-2012, 07:50 PM
If that wasn't sarcasm, he was referring to the Raider's reach for the combine smasher Bruce Campbell, not the awesome star of Army of Darkness. ;)
Campbell was a 4th round pick. A workout warrior, certainly. But, hardly a reach. In fact, Campbell was the only blemish on what had to be Al Davis' best draft in a decade.

Wolf6151
03-02-2012, 04:59 AM
I think Fletcher Cox fits in well with our one gap system.....

I've been looking at him since you posted your mock and really liking what I'm reading. I know it's nit picky but I wonder if he could add 10-15 lbs. without losing his speed or athleticism. He's listed at 298 lbs. but I'd really like to get a quick/athletic guy in the 310 lbs. range.

steelbtexan
03-03-2012, 01:11 PM
Campbell was a 4th round pick. A workout warrior, certainly. But, hardly a reach. In fact, Campbell was the only blemish on what had to be Al Davis' best draft in a decade.

Yep,

The 3rd rd or later is where teams should take chances on guys with the best measuarbles but lackof production in college.

In relation to where DHB was picked (7th) he was a terrible pick. But he seemed to be coming into his own last yr before Jason Campbell got hurt. I seem to remember DHB doing a pretty good job burning the Texans secondary last yr.

His main problem is his QB's have included Russell/Bolller/Campbell etc... not exactly Rodgers/Brady/Brees. LOL

DHB is a really good player who should get better with Palmer at QB. I would take DHB any day at WR2 over whoever the Texans could pick at #26. I know this isn't a popular stance on DHB, but he is a player.

A really cheap though injury prone guy I would look at signing after a in depth physical is Chaz Schillens. This guy is big/fast and has good hands. His problem is it took him 2 yrs to recover from foot surgery. (not uncommon) If he checks out medically the Texans should sign him. (Not that I trust the Texans medical staff) He would be a great compliment to AJ as WR2. IMHO

steelbtexan
03-03-2012, 01:21 PM
What do you guys think of Hebron Fangupo? NT out of BYU.

He played at USC before transferring because his wife was attacked in their Los Angeles apartment. He goes 6'1" 323.

I'm more a fan of the smaller NTs, but if we really want a plugger I like him in the 4th or 5th round. He is a limited athlete but very strong and tough to move. Plays high at times but that can be corrected. He is purely a two gap guy. He won't be getting anywhere near the QB on passing plays.

He is an older guy. Went on a two year mission before beginning his college career. Also seems to be a high character guy with a great work ethic.

I gotta say if we want a run stuffer I would rather take him in the 4th than Poe in the 1st. Poe is the superior athlete by far, but Fangupo looks better on tape. He destroyed the Texas interior OL when they played early this season.

Plus, he comes much cheaper. Which is great when you consider that a two gap NT won't be on the field on passing downs.

Love Fangupo, he was in one of my early mocks. He was dominant in the Texas game. Big guy who can move well in short spaces/strong as a bull. Can play NT or 5 tech in a 3-4 defense. The age/injury prone, (ankle) is the only reason Fangupo will drop to the 4/5 th rd. The guy has real talent though if he can stay healthy.

If Fangupo was 23 yrs old and stayed healthy he would be mentioned as late 1st/2nd rd pick. (Ta'amu, Brockers/Chapman before ACL)