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Playoffs
02-26-2012, 02:02 PM
Some NFL Combine perspective from a pro University of Tennessee source...

Arian Foster has rough pro day (http://blogs.knoxnews.com/edwards/2009/03/arain_foster_has_rough_pro_day.html)

According to NFL.com, former Tennessee running back Arian Foster had a less than stellar day in front of scouts on Wednesday.

Foster, a San Diego native who did not attend UT's pro day earlier this month, stayed close to home and worked out at San Diego State's pro day.

The results, however, weren't great.

Foster posted times of 4.73 and 4.69 seconds in the 40-yard dash. Foster's best time in the 40 is about 0.14 seconds slower than the benchmark scouts look for in running backs.

His other numbers weren't great, either.

In the short shuttle, which measures flexibility, burst and balance, Foster ran a 4.53. That's about 0.3 seconds slower than the ideal. Foster's 32-inch vertical jump was about 4 inches short of the ideal, too. A 9-7 broad jump wasn't off the charts, either.

The one good test for Foster was the three-cone drill, which tries to measure agility and change of direction. His time of 7.09 seconds was well ahead of the curve.

All told, Foster's performance was hardly shocking.

He was never in danger of setting land-speed records while at UT, but his quickness and change of direction - agruably his best traits as a running back - showed up in front of the stop watch, too.

We'll see what happens next month with Foster.

Despite some poor measurables, he's a pretty smart football player and had been a reliable receiver out of the backfield and a good pass protector. That said, his career was up-and-down in terms of production, and he seemed to have some maturity issues at times, too.

Pro Day was huge for Foster, who was injured at the Senior Bowl and couldn't do much [23 reps @225 lbs. bench] at the NFL combine, either. He needed a good day in front of scouts, and he certainly didn't get one. I'd be interested to know exactly how much of that had to do with the ankle injury.

Foster wasn't ever a speed back, but those numbers seem a little slower than I had expected.

Still, Foster might be able to catch on somewhere. It'd be tough to see Foster going any earlier than the sixth or seventh round in next month's draft. I'd bet free agent, which is certainly a big change from the second-round grade he received last year as a junior.

ObsiWan
02-26-2012, 03:24 PM
Man.... it would be just like the Texans' idiot coaching staff to pick up a bum like this
:sarcasm:

TdotTexas2Step
02-26-2012, 06:48 PM
The shuttle tests are what we should be putting the most stock in as long as we continue to run a zone blocking scheme. Solid one cut runners with a good acceleration will always do well in this offense regardless of their 40 speed or vertical.

TEXANRED
02-26-2012, 07:55 PM
I say let the game tape speak for itself.

Dutchrudder
02-26-2012, 08:05 PM
I say let the game tape speak for itself.

His college reels weren't that impressive. He had fumbling issues and wasn't considered a top prospect by any means. More likely a mid round pick, but his injuries are what kept him from being drafted.

He's a one in a thousand guy that ended up being great. He's an exception, not the rule. This years guy like that turned out to be Victor Cruz.

Bulls on Parade
02-27-2012, 04:14 AM
Even Andrew Luck had a faster 40-time yesterday (did it twice). But if we watched a race between Arian Foster and Andrew Luck in full pads, I'm going to bet on Foster winning that every time.

Playoffs
02-27-2012, 10:18 AM
Even Andrew Luck had a faster 40-time yesterday (did it twice). But if we watched a race between Arian Foster and Andrew Luck in full pads, I'm going to bet on Foster winning that every time.more than a few O-linemen out jumped him in the vertical. :D

ckhouston
02-27-2012, 10:20 AM
Based on this information, I would not draft him. :kitten:

HJam72
02-27-2012, 11:29 AM
Send him back! :jk:

281
02-27-2012, 11:30 AM
what a bum... why'd we even draft this guy?

oh, wait... : D

rush2112mn
02-27-2012, 12:53 PM
That Foster kid sounds like a bust.
I hope we are no cosidering bringing him in...
Whoever thinks we should even give him a tryout is crazy......



Sometimes miracles do happen.......

Blake
02-27-2012, 01:01 PM
There is a reason some refer to him as poetry in motion rather than Grease Lightning.

Goatcheese
02-27-2012, 01:38 PM
Foster jacked up his hammy in the Senior bowl and wasn't healthy. If he ran the same drills today, or before the injury, they would be much better.

Double Barrel
02-27-2012, 04:56 PM
This is why I am always suspect of front offices who are enamored with combine warriors.

The great talent evaluators can see things not measured in drills.

Dutchrudder
02-27-2012, 09:17 PM
http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/sp_1411_clip05.jpg

"You should have drafted Arian Foster!"

TexMexMom
02-28-2012, 10:59 AM
He was still having some hamstring issues, but more than anything, I think it was his training. I saw his brother take him after the draft for six weeks and did wonders with his body, his speed and his agility. Once he was healthy and physically fit, he was fine. Plus, there is no drill or test that can measure a man's heart.

badboy
02-28-2012, 11:29 AM
He was still having some hamstring issues, but more than anything, I think it was his training. I saw his brother take him after the draft for six weeks and did wonders with his body, his speed and his agility. Once he was healthy and physically fit, he was fine. Plus, there is no drill or test that can measure a man's heart.glad to see you back on board. Tell your son how proud we are of him. hope he gets a great (yet Texans friendly) contract. I also enjoy watching the interaction between him and Ben as they seem to support each other. Don't be a stranger as I and others appreciate your insight.

1bigfan13
02-28-2012, 11:30 AM
I think Foster is a smart football player. He is by no means the most physically gifted RB in the league, but he makes up for it with his understanding of the game.

Kind of like Emmitt Smith back in the day.

Hardcore Texan
02-28-2012, 11:31 AM
He was still having some hamstring issues, but more than anything, I think it was his training. I saw his brother take him after the draft for six weeks and did wonders with his body, his speed and his agility. Once he was healthy and physically fit, he was fine. Plus, there is no drill or test that can measure a man's heart.

I was going to mention the training with his brother that you have talked about and have heard Arian reference before in interviews.

I have always felt that way. Heart, determination, perserverance, work ethic, all the intangibles are huge in any career. But I'd say especially so for a pro athelete, because all these guys are talented, it's the intangibles that push them to be great.

But still I can't help but be impressed by his vision, agility, and balance. He's a cut above. Couple that with his great hands and very good in pass protection, best RB in the game today. (all of this I have posted here a few times before).

:texflag:

SheTexan
02-28-2012, 03:56 PM
He was still having some hamstring issues, but more than anything, I think it was his training. I saw his brother take him after the draft for six weeks and did wonders with his body, his speed and his agility. Once he was healthy and physically fit, he was fine. Plus, there is no drill or test that can measure a man's heart.

Welcome back! I remember your name, but, not sure you would want everyone out there to know it, so I'll keep it to myself!:) You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence! NO drill or test can measure a man's heart!! It's taken us TEN years to get a handfull of players with that trait, and Arian is definitely up there at the top with AJ and Meco!

I'll just keep on believing the Texans will get the job done, and we'll see our FAV RB back here next year!!

Playoffs
02-28-2012, 04:20 PM
He was still having some hamstring issues, but more than anything, I think it was his training. I saw his brother take him after the draft for six weeks and did wonders with his body, his speed and his agility. Once he was healthy and physically fit, he was fine. Plus, there is no drill or test that can measure a man's heart.Yep, and this is the perspective I was looking for during a time when us fans can become too enamored with combine performances.

There's track fast, then there's football fast.
There's spandex athletes, then there's football pads athletes.
There's run/jump/spin skills, then there's football skills.

We've seen Arian juke past NFL players with the same ease that Gale Sayers did, but he was overlooked by most because he didn't look pretty in the dog & pony show workouts. It's about football. It's about what's on tape.

TimeKiller
02-28-2012, 07:06 PM
So we're looking for no speed, poor hops and weaker than desirable backs lol...

Texan_Bill
02-28-2012, 08:02 PM
So we're looking for no speed, poor hops and weaker than desirable backs lol...

I guess Case Keenum is going to be a helluva QB in this league. :truck:

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Pro-Days and the Combine don't mean squat!!

drs23
02-28-2012, 08:07 PM
I guess Case Keenum is going to be a helluva QB in this league. :truck:

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Pro-Days and the Combine don't mean squat!!

Like David Kligler and Andre Ware?

Texan_Bill
02-28-2012, 08:37 PM
Like David Kligler and Andre Ware?

Actually quite different. Those guys came out of a "system offense" and were highly touted. Case had a "less than 'good' Combine" coming from a "system offense" and people weren't sold on him to begin with.

My post was made in the irony of drafts past.

My point is that Keenum could carve himself a nice little career (whether a very good back-up OR better).

ThaJokaa
03-01-2012, 02:44 PM
If mama Foster is back, does she know something about the contract that we dont?

GuerillaBlack
03-01-2012, 02:58 PM
Welcome back! I remember your name, but, not sure you would want everyone out there to know it, so I'll keep it to myself!:) You hit the nail on the head with your last sentence! NO drill or test can measure a man's heart!! It's taken us TEN years to get a handfull of players with that trait, and Arian is definitely up there at the top with AJ and Meco!

I'll just keep on believing the Texans will get the job done, and we'll see our FAV RB back here next year!!

Don't worry, Wikipedia has you beat ;):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arian_Foster

kwayshauntay
03-07-2012, 06:31 AM
Ariansanity?

Yes, I went there. :doot: