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forcefollow
01-15-2012, 05:29 PM
#1 towering above all the other wishes... JACOBY JONES MUST GO!!! and not just because of the muffed punt. He is a terrible wide receiver. I have never liked him.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Take the best available corner or safety with the second pick.

4. Try to sign another large run stuffing DT.

5. Ship Mario to save cap space.

6. Keep everything else the same. Lock up as many players as possible.

This team really has potential to go all the way next year.

On the coaching front: Stay with Kubes and try to lock up Wade.

CretorFrigg
01-15-2012, 05:33 PM
I'd like to see a new S&C coach. The injuries killed us this year. Maybe it's a coincidence, but it wouldn't hurt to get a new one.

We have a great O-line, but interior O-line can also improve.

ETA: New punter too, unless Hartman comes back. I don't want to see Turk in a Texans uniform anymore.

forcefollow
01-15-2012, 05:37 PM
I'd like to see a new S&C coach. The injuries killed us this year. Maybe it's a coincidence, but it wouldn't hurt to get a new one.

We have a great O-line, but interior O-line can also improve.

You make a point that is spot on. Mario tore his pec on a play that didn't look bad. Casey tore his pec also. Some of these injuries suggest that the S & C coach may not have it all together. Very good point.

MEGA SWATT
01-15-2012, 05:39 PM
#1 towering above all the other wishes... JACOBY JONES MUST GO!!! and not just because of the muffed punt. He is a terrible wide receiver. I have never liked him.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Take the best available corner or safety with the second pick.

4. Try to sign another large run stuffing DT.

5. Ship Mario to save cap space.

6. Keep everything else the same. Lock up as many players as possible.

This team really has potential to go all the way next year.

On the coaching front: Stay with Kubes and try to lock up Wade.

Agree except, I think we should keep Mario.

Jackie Chiles
01-15-2012, 05:40 PM
#1 towering above all the other wishes... JACOBY JONES MUST GO!!! and not just because of the muffed punt. He is a terrible wide receiver. I have never liked him.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Take the best available corner or safety with the second pick.

4. Try to sign another large run stuffing DT.

5. Ship Mario to save cap space.

6. Keep everything else the same. Lock up as many players as possible.

This team really has potential to go all the way next year.

On the coaching front: Stay with Kubes and try to lock up Wade.

On this one, I have been a big supporter of keeping Mario here on a long-term contract. After the way the defense finished the season, especially this game I still think he stays (Bob McNair loves him) but I will be ok with whatever decision the team makes. This does assume, however, that we get some serious compensation if he is not on the opening day roster. You cannot let a player that talented and valued around the league walk for nothing but a potential 3rd round compensatory pick. I don't care what the franchise tag number is, there is dead weight on this team that can be shed, there are contracts that can be reworked, etc. If Mario leaves you MUST get good compensation for him. I'm talking a top 10 pick and then something else.

darnbni99a
01-15-2012, 05:40 PM
Pay Arian. & Get Japhoney Jones outta here

Jackie Chiles
01-15-2012, 05:43 PM
I'd like to see a new S&C coach. The injuries killed us this year. Maybe it's a coincidence, but it wouldn't hurt to get a new one.

We have a great O-line, but interior O-line can also improve.

ETA: New punter too, unless Hartman comes back. I don't want to see Turk in a Texans uniform anymore.

How come every time guys get injured its always the strength and conditioning coach that catches hell? Cedric Smith has played large part in turning around this team's identity from a perceived finesse and "soft" team to one that can go toe to toe in the trenches with anyone. Blaming him for these freak injuries is beyond idiotic imo.

TheMatrix31
01-15-2012, 05:51 PM
Get the Jabrony outta here.

Get a punter.

Get bubble wrap for the entire time and petition the NFL to let us play with it.

Get a WR. Someone. I don't care who or from where.

Get another corner so that we can roll with Allen and Kareem as #3 and #4 CBs.

Look to get some safety help.

LB and OL depth.

New training staff or conditioning coach if it's deemed necessary.

That's it for now, I guess.

dream_team
01-15-2012, 05:52 PM
#1 towering above all the other wishes... JACOBY JONES MUST GO!!! and not just because of the muffed punt. He is a terrible wide receiver. I have never liked him.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Take the best available corner or safety with the second pick.

4. Try to sign another large run stuffing DT.

5. Ship Mario to save cap space.

6. Keep everything else the same. Lock up as many players as possible.

This team really has potential to go all the way next year.

On the coaching front: Stay with Kubes and try to lock up Wade.

I don't know much about prospects in this upcoming draft, but I'd rather get the big NT in the 2nd round.

KJ has proven to me that he can start in this league. I'm ok with Allen walking and Harris taking over his role.

I don't see a big need in taking a DB that high... but I'm ok with BPA after the 2nd round.

When you have a playmaker, you don't let him go. I hope we do everything we can to keep Mario... but if we can't, I won't think it's the end of the world.

dream_team
01-15-2012, 05:54 PM
Get the Jabrony outta here.

Get a punter.

Get bubble wrap for the entire time and petition the NFL to let us play with it.

Get a WR. Someone. I don't care who or from where.

Get another corner so that we can roll with Allen and Kareem as #3 and #4 CBs.

Look to get some safety help.

LB and OL depth.

New training staff or conditioning coach if it's deemed necessary.

That's it for now, I guess.

Why are people saying safety help? Which safety are they not happy with? I thought both played well this season. Unless you simply want depth?

TEXANRED
01-15-2012, 06:09 PM
A list for next years WR free agency.

The bolded is who I would want to take a long hard look at along with taking a WR in the 1st round.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/39667/59/nfl-free-agent-master-list?pg=2


Wide Receivers

Vincent Jackson
Dwayne Bowe *
Wes Welker *
Brandon Lloyd
Marques Colston
DeSean Jackson
Stevie Johnson
Reggie Wayne
Robert Meachem
Mario Manningham
Pierre Garcon
Laurent Robinson
Braylon Edwards
Early Doucet
Ted Ginn
Plaxico Burress
Roscoe Parrish
Jerome Simpson
Jerricho Cotchery
Eddie Royal
Steve Smith (PHI)
Mark Clayton
Harry Douglas
Andre Caldwell
Josh Morgan
Donte' Stallworth
Legedu Naanee
Eric Weems
Terrell Owens
Deion Branch
Chaz Schilens
Devin Aromashodu
Mike Sims-Walker
Lavelle Hawkins
Derek Hagan
Patrick Crayton
Donnie Avery
Domenik Hixon
Greg Camarillo
Devin Thomas
Ruvell Martin
Maurice Stovall
Anthony Gonzalez
Kevin Curtis
T.J. Houshmandzadeh
Matt Slater
Micheal Spurlock
Courtney Roby
Bernard Berrian
Roy Williams
Rashied Davis
David Anderson
Bryant Johnson
Jerheme Urban
Michael Clayton

Thorn
01-15-2012, 06:14 PM
Get the **** rid of Jacoby Jones.

Sign Foster.

Keep Phillips as DC, or perhaps even promote him to assistent head coach to give him more money if that's what it takes.

Get the next AJ in the draft.

Last, but not least, sign Mario only if you can afford it. If not, trade him for picks. I'd rather keep him though if it's all the same. I think breaking the bank for Foster is justified, but not for Mario.

HJam72
01-15-2012, 06:14 PM
This is what I see:

A list for next years WR free agency.

The bolded is who I would want to take a long hard look at along with taking a WR in the 1st round.

http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/nfl/39667/59/nfl-free-agent-master-list?pg=2


Wide Receivers

Vincent Jackson
Dwayne Bowe *
Wes Welker *
Brandon Lloyd
Marques Colston :logo:
DeSean Jackson
Stevie Johnson
Reggie Wayne
Robert Meachem
Mario Manningham
Pierre Garcon
Laurent Robinson
Braylon Edwards
Early Doucet
Ted Ginn
Plaxico Burress
Roscoe Parrish
Jerome Simpson
Jerricho Cotchery
Eddie Royal
Steve Smith (PHI)
Mark Clayton
Harry Douglas
Andre Caldwell
Josh Morgan
Donte' Stallworth
Legedu Naanee
Eric Weems
Terrell Owens
Deion Branch
Chaz Schilens
Devin Aromashodu
Mike Sims-Walker
Lavelle Hawkins
Derek Hagan
Patrick Crayton
Donnie Avery
Domenik Hixon
Greg Camarillo
Devin Thomas
Ruvell Martin
Maurice Stovall
Anthony Gonzalez
Kevin Curtis
T.J. Houshmandzadeh
Matt Slater
Micheal Spurlock
Courtney Roby
Bernard Berrian
Roy Williams
Rashied Davis
David Anderson
Bryant Johnson
Jerheme Urban
Michael Clayton

Playoffs
01-15-2012, 06:16 PM
FA WR: Brandon Lloyd, Marques Colston, Stevie Johnson, Laurent Robinson, Pierre Garcon

DB depth

OL depth

Keep our best players

Kicker/punter

Trade Jacoby/add punt returner

Hervoyel
01-15-2012, 06:16 PM
#1 towering above all the other wishes... JACOBY JONES MUST GO!!! and not just because of the muffed punt. He is a terrible wide receiver. I have never liked him.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Take the best available corner or safety with the second pick.

4. Try to sign another large run stuffing DT.

5. Ship Mario to save cap space.

6. Keep everything else the same. Lock up as many players as possible.

This team really has potential to go all the way next year.

On the coaching front: Stay with Kubes and try to lock up Wade.

I'd like to see the following take place.

Part ways with Jacoby Jones as soon as it's practical to release him. We've all seen what happens when a player (in any sport really) has the collective fanbase turn on him. Jones is at that point here I think. It's time to part ways. If he's ever going to make anything of himself (and he isn't) then it won't happen here.

In free agency we need to look for a legitimate #2 WR. This WR can be older because he's a short term guy who will bridge the gap between AJ and the rookie we're going to take in the draft. Call that rookie "Future WR2"). In the draft we need to get that WR2 in either the first or the second round depending on how the picks fall and where the best value is.

We need to decide what kind of a future Kareem Jackson has here and whether Brandon Harris is going to pan out. The last time I saw a 2nd round pick disappear like Harris was Bennie Joppru with his magical series of season-ending injuries. What's going on with Harris? Is he the future? Do we need another CB in the 2012 draft? We seem loaded up with talent but are we?

Then I'd like to see if we could draft some more depth on the offensive line. I know we started the season with Butler already gone but Caldwell did not impress when he had to come in late in the year. We need more depth there.

I'd like to see us re-sign both Mario & Foster. I think that if the team wants to make it happen then it can get done. If we don't keep Mario I think we should make sure we get something for him. Letting him walk is not an option.

As I said I'd like to see Mario back because I think he could be really special in this system but if that's not possible I think we'll be fine. If we can keep drafting like we have been recently then we'll be able to keep reloading with players we can afford.

texanchris
01-15-2012, 06:18 PM
1. draft a #2 wr to compliment Andre
2. resign Mario Williams but if he wants too much money then let him walk because while he has potential, its seems that he is always injured
3. pay arian the money he deserves
4. release jacoby jones
5.sign depth at o line and maybe draft a nose tackle in the early rounds
6. as for cornerback, i think the texans are fine the way they are and would be ok if they let Allen walk. Mccain is a excellent nickel corner and Kareem has been playing better lately. He had a great game against the ravens today but their receivers just made outstanding catches. Harris could rotate in with Kareem and Carmicheal or Mcmanis could be 4th cornerback.

SteveSlaton20
01-15-2012, 06:21 PM
Cut Jacoby Jones
New kicker(I like Rackers but he's old and cant really kick 50+ yarders, okie st kicker would be nice)
Will Hartmann be the same? I think we should go away with Turk and give Hartmann a run for his job.
Sign Foster to a big contract
Franchise Mario
Draft Alshon Jefferey, if not Kendall Wright.
And most importantly of all, keep Wade in Houston.

Wouldn't mind a new giant NT either

TheMatrix31
01-15-2012, 06:25 PM
I'd like to draft a WR and sign Early Doucet if possible. You can forget about one of the big gun WRs.

gafftop
01-15-2012, 06:26 PM
The Texans need another starting CB and a couple more WRs. We need one that has speed and can make a big play for a TD. it is difficult to grind it all day long with no big plays. Just too many things come up penalty, turn over, etc to expect to be able to just drive it down the field all day long, even though the Texans did a good job of it. Walter is at best a 3rd or 4th wr. So really the only wr we had this year was AJ. I think we cannot depend soley on the draft to get a WR. They are interviewing Vernon Davis on TV, where can we find another one like him.

We need to pick up players that can come in and contribute maybe not next year but in a couple years. it is an ongoing process and all the other teams are improving also. if you just standstill with what you had last year you go backwards. The only position I feel somewhat comfortable in is RB and that could change in one instant.

DownByContact
01-15-2012, 06:29 PM
Agree that Jacoby must go.
Buy why draft a CB of S in the second round? Didn't we just draft a CB in the 2nd last year?
Also why a S, it thought our safety play was pretty good this year, unless you're thinking of depth, but 2nd round is to early just for depth.

I also thought Kareem played pretty decent in the playoffs, today I noticed he turned to look for the ball a few times, ex. the one that Boldin made that spectacular catch on the sidelines. That was great coverage, just a better catch.

Jackie Chiles
01-15-2012, 06:42 PM
One more thing I would consider if I'm Rick Smith would be a trade for someone like Shane Lechler. Not sure how Oakland would feel about it but I would easily give up a 3rd rounder, probably a 2nd for him. Sounds crazy but with his leg backing up this defense I think we shave off 2-3 points per game. I know Hartman looked promising but even at his best he can't match Lechler and who knows after that injury.

From Oakland's perspective it makes sense because they have been giving away their draft picks for the last few years and really don't have a promising avenue to upgrade their team this offseason outside of free agency.

TexanSam
01-15-2012, 06:46 PM
A legit #2 wide receiver and #2 corner. I'd rather sign a corner in free agency, someone who's established. I think it's easier for a wide receiver to get drafted and make an impact that it is for a cornerback.

ObsiWan
01-15-2012, 06:50 PM
I'd like to draft a WR and sign Early Doucet if possible. You can forget about one of the big gun WRs.

I'm with you on this. We have enough salary cap issues as it is.
I would pick Harry Douglas or maybe a Steve Smith (phi) to add to our WR corps.

You know what I'd REEEEALLY like... is a Vernon Davis/Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez beast-type TE to challenge Daniels and Dreessen for their spots. Any of them in the upcoming draft?

TexanBacker93
01-15-2012, 06:54 PM
I agree that a WR is needed. Andre will be in his 10th year and is still a beast, but it would be nice to have a compliment to him.

What's the situation with Brandon Harris? Can he be the CB that we need opposite JoJo? He never seems to be active and I'm not sure if it's because he isn't getting it or if they didn't want to throw a rookie CB at the Lions again.

O-Line depth is always needed.

Get Foster a long term contract.

Get Wade Phillips a pay raise.

I could use a double beer holder on my seat.

TEXANRED
01-15-2012, 06:55 PM
I'm with you on this. We have enough salary cap issues as it is.
I would pick Harry Douglas or maybe a Steve Smith (phi) to add to our WR corps.

You know what I'd REEEEALLY like... is a Vernon Davis/Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez beast-type TE to challenge Daniels and Dreessen for their spots. Any of them in the upcoming draft?

I like OD and Dressen. We get a couple of receivers who can run routes you will find our TE's getting more open.

NE's TE's have Branch and Welker, and oh yeah that other guy Brady.

TheMatrix31
01-15-2012, 06:56 PM
I'm with you on this. We have enough salary cap issues as it is.
I would pick Harry Douglas or maybe a Steve Smith (phi) to add to our WR corps.

You know what I'd REEEEALLY like... is a Vernon Davis/Rob Gronkowski/Aaron Hernandez beast-type TE to challenge Daniels and Dreessen for their spots. Any of them in the upcoming draft?


Dunno, not a college football fan at all.

I think we're fine at TE.

ObsiWan
01-15-2012, 07:02 PM
I like OD and Dressen. We get a couple of receivers who can run routes you will find our TE's getting more open.

NE's TE's have Branch and Welker, and oh yeah that other guy Brady.

I like them too. But apparently they can't get open unless the play action suckers the defense. Gronk, Davis, and Hernandez can catch in traffic and, more importantly, run away from people. Neither OD nor Dreessen have that kind of speed.

And maybe Brady makes Gronk and Hernandez appear better than they really are but Vernon Davis is making Alex Smith look like a legit QB.

I'd swap him for O.D. straight up in a NY minute.

Tell me... in the biggest game of his Texans career, O.D. has TWO catches. Where WAS HE?
Now maybe that's on the rook; he did seem to be fixated on A.J. But still.... TWO catches??

Brandon420tx
01-15-2012, 07:09 PM
I would take Jerome Simpson to replace Jacoby's role as Deep Threat/Speed Guy. Then Draft Dwight Jones with our first pick to groom behind AJ.

Sign Foster first, work out a deal with Mario, Use the leftover FA money on Myers.

Draft a solid interior lineman in Rounds 2 or 3 to be depth for our Oline.

Draft 1 more Monster to play DE behind Watt and Smith until Smith retires. (maybe a goal for next offseason)

Sign a dedicated Kick and Punt Returner

The rest is BPA with what we've got available

TEXANRED
01-15-2012, 07:14 PM
I like them too. But apparently they can't get open unless the play action suckers the defense. Gronk, Davis, and Hernandez can catch in traffic and, more importantly, run away from people. Neither OD nor Dreessen have that kind of speed.

And maybe Brady makes Gronk and Hernandez appear better than they really are but Vernon Davis is making Alex Smith look like a legit QB.

I'd swap him for O.D. straight up in a NY minute.

Tell me... in the biggest game of his Texans career, O.D. has TWO catches. Where WAS HE?
Now maybe that's on the rook; he did seem to be fixated on A.J. But still.... TWO catches??
TJ looked like the rookie he is. He is what we thought he was.

It's hard to say what happened with OD today cus it didn't appear he was targeted.

WolverineFan
01-15-2012, 07:14 PM
My reactions to this thread so far....

1) Why do we need a 'giant' NT? Had the 4th ranked rush defense in the league this year and just held Ray Rice 60 yds on 21 carries in a road playoff game. So tired of this subject.

2) How can we trade Mario if he's a FA? Maybe you do a franchise and trade, but I don't see why we trade him if we sign him. You either sign him or he walks. There is no in between.

Now, my thoughts on the offseason....

1) Pay Foster. He's earned it.

2) Pay Mario if you can. If the finances don't work you have to let him go. We can work with Barwin and Reed although ideally we keep Mario.

3) Try to pay Myers. Not a long term deal, but 3 years should do fine.

4) Cut Jacoby Jones. It's time, he's done nothing his entire career and it's been obvious to everyone but Gary Kubiak. Give up on the project and move on.

5) Draft a WR in the first 2 rounds and get a return man out of this draft. We have seen how weak the WR position is at this point after Andre and we need a return guy if cutting Jones. We need a guy like Alshon Jeffrey in the 1st and T.Y. Hilton in the 4th. Or take Kendall Wright in the 1st, who can do both.

6) Need an interior lineman early in the draft (2-3). Caldwell was awful this year and we don't really have any backups that I trust. This is a must if we can't re-sign Myers!!!

7) Take a DB in the draft (4-5). We don't know who will return at Safety so we might need to reload there. If not, we should add a CB just because.

8) Stay out of the Free Agency Market!!! This team is solid across the board. All of the weaknesses can be solved with the draft. There is no reason to go out and overpay for someone.

9) Re-sign Dressen and Rackers.

10) Add a D-Lineman in the 4th-5th. There will be a quality player there to add to the rotation.

texanchris
01-15-2012, 07:47 PM
^^^ agree with everything except resigning Rackers. He missed a critical 50 yard field goal with the wind at his back and only made 84.2% of his field goals this year. I would rather draft a kicker in the 5-6th round and use the money saved not resigning Rackers on resigning Foster, Myers, or Williams

TEXANJAK
01-15-2012, 07:57 PM
#1 Bye Bye Jacoby Jones.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Veteran CB

4. NO QUARTERBACK SNEAKS!!

5. Pay Foster.

6. Move Mario back to old position. Keep Brooks Reed out on the field.

DocBar
01-15-2012, 07:57 PM
I would really like to see us take care of our own FA's(my position on MW is well known by now), land a FA WR and draft for depth. We can just about draft BPA, regardless of position. Our only true need is at WR, but I would hate to see us reach for one. Besides, we'll be drafting 27-28. As we saw this season, it's hard to overestimate quality depth. across the board.

fiasco west
01-15-2012, 08:00 PM
I think we could do better at TE though and with OD's recent play you have to wonder if he'll become a cap casualty as we try to lock up Foster and Mario. (not that he's been bad or anything close to it. Just that they could do better I think)

I mean we did draft that Graham guy who was supposed to be just like OD and we draft a TE nearly every year and I doubt Kubiak will be able to restrain himself and will get the go ahead after having so many defense picks last year.

Brandon420tx
01-15-2012, 08:08 PM
And for me that is

*Drumroll please*

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*CLANG!!*

Jerome Simpson WR from Cincinatti Bengals. Y'know, as long as he leaves behind his Pot. Although I doubt he does, but would like him to hold off on it till after his professional career.

Anyway, He's got the speed!!! He's got the hands!!!, He's got the hops!!! He's got that big play ability!!! Signing him will solidify the #2 spot, or at least have him competing with Walter. Either way he is a definite upgrade over JJ, and now that the fan base wants to torch and pitchfork him out of town, I believe he'll get cut. Signing him would give us a WR core consisting of AJ, Simpson, Walter, 2012#1 Draft Pick WR, and 5th guy. I don't know about you but I like that group.

First and foremost he'd have to prove to McNair that he can hold off the Ganja for awhile. Actually, first and foremost he has to pry himself away from Cinci, then hold off the pot, then we'd have to offer him enough money to steal him from other teams. If we go after him first though we might have a chance, as there are other big name WR free agents that should be targeted heavily at the beginning of the offseason.

So, thoughts?

Honoring Earl 34
01-15-2012, 08:13 PM
I'd take Dwayne Bowe in a second as a FA .

1. the #1 need is WR or weapons in general .

2. Interior OL . That's this teams bread and butter and Smith and Caldwell aren't so hot .

3. CB

4. Upgrading depth all over .

Ryan
01-15-2012, 08:14 PM
I'd like to see what the price tag would be for Reggie Wayne, and then draft a young WR in the first couple of rounds to groom.

Lucky
01-15-2012, 08:15 PM
From Rotoworld:
Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden indicated in his season-ending press conference that impending free agent Jerome Simpson's consistency was an issue in his first year as a starter.

"Jerome had moments of greatness and moments of, 'what is going on?'" said Gruden. "We just need to have a lot more consistent group where Andy (Dalton) knows where everybody is going to be at all times." Simpson made highlight reels with a late-season touchdown flip, but finished seventh in the league in drops (9) while ranking just 30th in targets. There were few receivers less effective than Simpson in 2011. Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer has consistently predicted that Simpson won't be back with the Bengals.I don't think so. And that's without even considering the weed situation.

WolverineFan
01-15-2012, 08:15 PM
^^^ agree with everything except resigning Rackers. He missed a critical 50 yard field goal with the wind at his back and only made 84.2% of his field goals this year. I would rather draft a kicker in the 5-6th round and use the money saved not resigning Rackers on resigning Foster, Myers, or Williams

I disagree about Rackers. He was 15th in FG percentage this year. You aren't going to draft a rookie K who will do better. It's also a weak year for K in the draft. There's not those 1 or 2 guys who you WANT to draft, despite being specialists.

He has a relatively high salary for a Kicker, but that figure will likely be lower if he re-signs.

Wolf6151
01-15-2012, 08:18 PM
1. Cut Jacoby Jones while your still in Baltimore, in fact there's no reason for him to even get on the plane home.
2. Draft a WR in the 1st round either Dwight Jones or Mohamed Sanu.
3. Let Mario walk and use the money saved to get another great CB.
4. Get another run stuffing DT in the draft.
5. 2nd round of the draft get a high quality OG
6. All the mid rounds of the draft should be used on depth at ILB, SS, O-line, RB, and P.
7. Lock up Wade Phillips long term.
8. Cut Matt Leinart.

The money saved with Mario walking and cutting Jacoby and Leinart should allow us to have a good FA.

Brandon420tx
01-15-2012, 08:20 PM
Well at least his "great moments" came more often than JJs, and he won't be returning punts so he can't put those on the ground. As a straight up comparison to JJ, he's athletically similar but with a better in game track record.

Honestly I'd want Bowe, but I highly doubt we'll be in the mix for the top tier FA's. I fully expect we'll be able to sign Foster, Mario, and Myers. Especially since the first year in Marios contract will be dramatically cheaper then what we payed him this year, and I'm still expecting our #1 Pick to go towards our WR of the Future. Jerome Simpson would be a great middle man during the transition from AJ to Mr. First Round pick.

Look at the Cowboys right now with 3 amazing receivers, and how The Giants are pulling off something similar over there. I think Simpson is at the top of the speed section of the servicable FA WRs, so that's what makes him my target

50 receptions for 725 yards from Andy Dalton and sharing receptions with AJ Green, and Caldwell, and Gresham is pretty good if you ask me

False Start
01-15-2012, 08:21 PM
I'd like to see what the price tag would be for Reggie Wayne, and then draft a young WR in the first couple of rounds to groom.

Yep, first name that came to mind for me.

Mike Kerns
01-15-2012, 08:22 PM
1) Let Mario Walk
2) Sign Reggie Wayne to be WR2
3) Draft LB, NT, WR & CB depth
4) Cut Matt Leinart & Jacoby Jones
5) Get healthy for 2012

fiasco west
01-15-2012, 08:26 PM
Free agent I hope we go after.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/706/184/93510505_display_image.jpg?1297200963

BeerTastesLikeVictory
01-15-2012, 08:35 PM
1a- Trade Jacoby for a half eaten sandwich and a flat warm coca cola
1b - Pay Foster
2 - #2 WR - Downfield threat...early in the draft
3 - Corner to compete with KJ - If he stays it will be put up or shut up year
4 - O Line depth

- I'm not up to date enough on cap space and free agency to take about what to do with Mario and who we might pick up.

darnbni99a
01-15-2012, 09:48 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012_WR?&start_row=1

i like Brian Quick. not the fastest WR in the draft but dude has serious skill

WolverineFan
01-15-2012, 10:29 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2012_WR?&start_row=1

i like Brian Quick. not the fastest WR in the draft but dude has serious skill

I think there's way better guys available than him to be honest.

I'd say Alshon Jeffrey or Kendall Wright in the 1st, or Dwight Jones in the 2nd, or Jordan White in the 3rd. Could take a flyer on a guy like Broyles in the 4th.

ATRAIN
01-16-2012, 06:18 PM
Cut Jacoby Jones
New kicker(I like Rackers but he's old and cant really kick 50+ yarders, okie st kicker would be nice)
Will Hartmann be the same? I think we should go away with Turk and give Hartmann a run for his job.
Sign Foster to a big contract
Franchise Mario
Draft Alshon Jefferey, if not Kendall Wright.
And most importantly of all, keep Wade in Houston.

Wouldn't mind a new giant NT either

I think Tagging Mario is a good idea, if he gets hurt again then we can part ways.

Number 1 sign Foster
Number 2 cut Jacoby
Number 3 get a FA reciever.

srrono
01-18-2012, 05:05 AM
FA
Ahtyba Rubin CLE NT
25yrs Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 330
2011 stats
56 solo tak
27ast tak
83 total tak
5.0 sack

b0ng
01-18-2012, 01:47 PM
Get the Jabrony outta here.

Get a punter.

Get bubble wrap for the entire time and petition the NFL to let us play with it.

Get a WR. Someone. I don't care who or from where.

Get another corner so that we can roll with Allen and Kareem as #3 and #4 CBs.

Look to get some safety help.

LB and OL depth.

New training staff or conditioning coach if it's deemed necessary.

That's it for now, I guess.

Brett Hartmann will be back next year and he was a stud. Will probably still be a stud.

Harris and Carmichael are probably going to see more playing time in TC this year, which probably means if we pick up any DB's from the draft it'll be later, and probably guys who can do PR duties as well.

And for the first time like ever, I am fine with our Safeties and our depth at safety.

TheCD
01-18-2012, 02:15 PM
Obviously we need to sign our guys first, but beyond that I would be extremely happy with any of the following:

1. Brent Grimes
2. Dwayne Bowe
3. Wes Welker
4. Marques Colston

All pipe dreams, of course, but if they're available and we don't go after them I would be disappointed.


And for the first time like ever, I am fine with our Safeties and our depth at safety.

I don't follow college football, but if there are any playmaking safeties I would say we still have to go after them. Quinn and Manning are perfectly fine, but you can never understimate the impact of a play-making safety. It would pretty much settle down our need for a good CB2.

Positions I think need to be addressed are WR, NT, CB, ILB depth, OL depth, S depth.

b0ng
01-18-2012, 02:38 PM
I don't follow college football, but if there are any playmaking safeties I would say we still have to go after them. Quinn and Manning are perfectly fine, but you can never understimate the impact of a play-making safety. It would pretty much settle down our need for a good CB2.

Positions I think need to be addressed are WR, NT, CB, ILB depth, OL depth, S depth.

There's not really any playmaking safeties in the draft that are worth worrying about in the first couple of rounds for us really. Quintin Demps is a decent enough backup and I think Dom Barber might qualify as this as well if he's not up on his contract. I think this offseason is probably going to revolve around beefing up the offense in some spots and maybe finding some depth on the D.

Scooter
01-18-2012, 02:46 PM
1 - keep our own. kubiak and wade, mario, myers, foster, dreessen. we were our starting quarterback away from a MAJOR playoff run. having the whole team together next season plus one or two pieces will have great results.

2 - get and stay healthy. a LOT of muscle injuries this year, a problem with the strength and condition coach?

3 - WR2. you never want to reach in the draft, but this is a must have going into next season. a first rounder would be ideal. if it saves even a dime, drop jacoby.

4 - special teams. first find a returner, i'd love a late round specialist, and i'm really surprised we havent been able to do something with holliday. second maybe look into coaching. as i've said elsewhere we all love joe, but i see a fair amount of being stagnant or even regressing.

5 - focus on the draft. last year we made our free agency splash, in order to continue with #1 and keep our core together now and in the future, we need to continue building through the draft.

majestrate
01-18-2012, 02:53 PM
Am I the only fan of having Lienart as a backup in existence on this board? Not sure he'd take a deal that involved him sitting as the third string.

Anyway, my 2012 wishes are simple:

1) Stay healthy
2) Win the division and get to the AFC championship
3) Don't remember the Titans, just sweep them

If you only want player moves in this thread, then I've got nothing. I'd ***** about Jacoby Jones, but I've done it for 3 years now, and it's gotten me nowhere.

TheCD
01-18-2012, 03:53 PM
Am I the only fan of having Lienart as a backup in existence on this board? Not sure he'd take a deal that involved him sitting as the third string.

I personally didn't like seeing him checking down every play and not challenging the deep part of the field. I saw that Sage is supposed UFA and honestly I think we will ask him to come back. Whether he will or not is another story.

Fico
01-18-2012, 04:50 PM
Sign MW, Foster and Meyer. We will be able to afford if we work the contracts right becuase the cap will expand in 2013 significantly as it is now tied to revenue and a new TV deal will be in the works then.

Release Jacoby. After 5 years you are what you are.

Sign Reggie Wayne to finish his career here next to Andre.

Draft Kendall Wright or a big body receiver like A.Jefferies out of S.Carolina. Draft best player available throughout the remainder of the draft.

Hope Hartman returns healthy.

Bring in competition for Rackers, we need the ability to score from 50+.

Pay Wade with that King Titus money.

Win the Superbowl.

VTexan
01-18-2012, 05:04 PM
http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/broyles_ryan00.html

Just take a look at those stats and tell me he isn't what the Texans need.

burro
01-18-2012, 05:18 PM
Am I the only fan of having Lienart as a backup in existence on this board? Not sure he'd take a deal that involved him sitting as the third string.


You can count me in. Leinart isn't anything spectacular and but he plays a very safe style of football, more or less just managing the game. I like TJ, but I can't help but wonder what might have happened in that Baltimore game if we had safer QB play. Of course that is just speculative, but either way I think it's silly how anxious everyone is to flush Leinart based on 13 pass attempts (10 of which he completed for 1 TD). The problem is whether or not Leinart would be willing to renegotiate his deal, we are going to have cap issues and he is a little overpaid.

cbs1507
01-18-2012, 05:19 PM
1) Sign Foster, Williams, and Myers
2) Get Solid WR2 (whether FA or draft) I would like to see us pick up Laurent Robinson.
3) Get a solid CB2 (whether through FA or draft)

BTW Jacoby Jones will be on the team next year and will have the best season of his career...it will just be as WR3.

badboy
01-18-2012, 05:32 PM
#1 towering above all the other wishes... JACOBY JONES MUST GO!!! and not just because of the muffed punt. He is a terrible wide receiver. I have never liked him.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Take the best available corner or safety with the second pick.

4. Try to sign another large run stuffing DT.

5. Ship Mario to save cap space.

6. Keep everything else the same. Lock up as many players as possible.

This team really has potential to go all the way next year.

On the coaching front: Stay with Kubes and try to lock up Wade.
1& 2. Kendall Wright may not be there but Dwight Jones should be.
3. CB? Either second rounder Brandon Harris or Roc Carmichael should replace Allen. Safety, at combine watch Kentucky SS/FS/CB Winston Guy who has rocketed up boards despite team losing. He's 6'1" 210 4.46 speed. He is a tackling machine moved this last season to a hybrid LB to take advantage of his skills. SHould be avail in our 3rd.
4. agree
5. Mario? What if he is re-signed to a friendly deal that allows you to save $8-9 million over 2011 cap hit?

badboy
01-18-2012, 05:37 PM
There's not really any playmaking safeties in the draft that are worth worrying about in the first couple of rounds for us really. Quintin Demps is a decent enough backup and I think Dom Barber might qualify as this as well if he's not up on his contract. I think this offseason is probably going to revolve around beefing up the offense in some spots and maybe finding some depth on the D.Barber is a FA and hopefully not coming back.

nero THE zero
01-18-2012, 05:44 PM
Barber is a FA and hopefully not coming back.

He was one of our better ST players. I think it'd be a mistake not to bring him back.

badboy
01-18-2012, 05:45 PM
FA
Ahtyba Rubin CLE NT
25yrs Ht: 6-2 | Wt: 330
2011 stats
56 solo tak
27ast tak
83 total tak
5.0 sackHe was extended:
Browns signed DT Ahtyba Rubin to a three-year, $27 million contract extension with $18 million guaranteed.He was previously under contract through 2011 at $600K. Rubin, drafted as a developmental project out of Iowa State in 2008, has quietly progressed into one of the most productive interior linemen in football. At 6-foot-2, 315, he's what Warren Sapp would call a "power pig" in the trenches. The Browns now have three of their defensive line starters
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/4932/ahtyba-rubin
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/6959552/cleveland-browns-extend-ahtyba-rubin-deal-three-years

badboy
01-18-2012, 05:48 PM
I'd like to see the following take place.

Part ways with Jacoby Jones as soon as it's practical to release him. We've all seen what happens when a player (in any sport really) has the collective fanbase turn on him. Jones is at that point here I think. It's time to part ways. If he's ever going to make anything of himself (and he isn't) then it won't happen here.

In free agency we need to look for a legitimate #2 WR. This WR can be older because he's a short term guy who will bridge the gap between AJ and the rookie we're going to take in the draft. Call that rookie "Future WR2"). In the draft we need to get that WR2 in either the first or the second round depending on how the picks fall and where the best value is.

We need to decide what kind of a future Kareem Jackson has here and whether Brandon Harris is going to pan out. The last time I saw a 2nd round pick disappear like Harris was Bennie Joppru with his magical series of season-ending injuries. What's going on with Harris? Is he the future? Do we need another CB in the 2012 draft? We seem loaded up with talent but are we?

Then I'd like to see if we could draft some more depth on the offensive line. I know we started the season with Butler already gone but Caldwell did not impress when he had to come in late in the year. We need more depth there.

I'd like to see us re-sign both Mario & Foster. I think that if the team wants to make it happen then it can get done. If we don't keep Mario I think we should make sure we get something for him. Letting him walk is not an option.

As I said I'd like to see Mario back because I think he could be really special in this system but if that's not possible I think we'll be fine. If we can keep drafting like we have been recently then we'll be able to keep reloading with players we can afford.Harris is on roster and played rarely at end of season. Either not what I and Wade thought he was (I mocked him early) or Phillips is protecting him as KJ was not.

badboy
01-18-2012, 05:57 PM
#1 Bye Bye Jacoby Jones.

2. Take a wide receiver in the first round.

3. Veteran CB

4. NO QUARTERBACK SNEAKS!!

5. Pay Foster.

6. Move Mario back to old position. Keep Brooks Reed out on the field.

What about me? signed JJ Watt

RagingBull
01-18-2012, 07:53 PM
Dear JJ,

You are the new 3rd down nose tackle.

Signed, Wade

Can you imagine: Mario, Brooks Reed, JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, and Conner Barwin rushing the passer at the same time?

burro
01-18-2012, 07:57 PM
Dear JJ,

You are the new 3rd down nose tackle.

Signed, Wade

Can you imagine: Mario, Brooks Reed, JJ Watt, Antonio Smith, and Conner Barwin rushing the passer at the same time?

Hell to the no. J.J. Watt was a dominant player this year, no way does Wade relegate him to situational duties. I would rather see Mario moved to NT than see Watt lose his spot.

Perki-Perk
01-18-2012, 08:04 PM
Viewing a lot of the posts in here, makes me glad that many of you have absolutely no input whatsoever as far as the transactions and player personnel moves are concerned. Sheesh. Really? Draft more CB's in the 2nd round? The NT issue hasn't been put to bed already? I agree wholeheartedly with the WR situation, but come on, a new TE? What short term memories a lot of you have! Leave it up to some of you and we have a need at every postition. Let Mario walk?! With absolutely no compensation?! I've read some crazy things on this thread. Can we get some football experts in here please??? Oh no! Neil Rackers had an 84% FGP and was 4 for 5 from 50 yds +. Let's get someone else! Quick! I don't care that the best ever FGP in the history of the NFL is 87%! Haha, you guys are killing me!

:kubepalm::mariopalm::wadepalm:

DocBar
01-18-2012, 08:05 PM
Hell to the no. J.J. Watt was a dominant player this year, no way does Wade relegate him to situational duties. I would rather see Mario moved to NT than see Watt lose his spot.I'm pretty sure he meant that Watt would just move over a slot and MW would drop down at DE in obvious passing situations. That actually sounds like a hellacious pass rush.

Insideop
01-18-2012, 09:04 PM
Viewing a lot of the posts in here, makes me glad that many of you have absolutely no input whatsoever as far as the transactions and player personnel moves are concerned. Sheesh. Really? Draft more CB's in the 2nd round? The NT issue hasn't been put to bed already? I agree wholeheartedly with the WR situation, but come on, a new TE? What short term memories a lot of you have! Leave it up to some of you and we have a need at every postition. Let Mario walk?! With absolutely no compensation?! I've read some crazy things on this thread. Can we get some football experts in here please??? Oh no! Neil Rackers had an 84% FGP and was 4 for 5 from 50 yds +. Let's get someone else! Quick! I don't care that the best ever FGP in the history of the NFL is 87%! Haha, you guys are killing me!

:kubepalm::mariopalm::wadepalm:


This!^^^^^^

srrono
01-18-2012, 09:48 PM
I think Ninja would work as NT. Have ninja gain 10 pounds.
DL----- Watt-Smith-Mario
LB--Barwin -Cushing--Ryans-Reed

nytexan
01-18-2012, 10:38 PM
If Reggie Wayne doesn't ask for major money, I'd like the Texans to make a run at him. Age, not wanting to be with a loser in Indy, especially if Manning really does retire makes him enticing. Draft Mohamed Sanu WR out of Rutgers in first round or Georgia OG Cordy Glenn. They need to start drafting some young guns in the Oline and WR.

Even with all our current TE's we're starting to age a bit there also. Orson Charles in the 2nd round would be great also. But IMO the Oline and WR's are going to be looked at primarily in the draft just because I just don't see a need at defense with the current group and youth there.

gary
01-18-2012, 10:53 PM
I would replace Allen with Grimes, Harris, or Carmicheal.

Dutchrudder
01-18-2012, 11:35 PM
If Reggie Wayne doesn't ask for major money, I'd like the Texans to make a run at him. Age, not wanting to be with a loser in Indy, especially if Manning really does retire makes him enticing. Draft Mohamed Sanu WR out of Rutgers in first round or Georgia OG Cordy Glenn. They need to start drafting some young guns in the Oline and WR.

Even with all our current TE's we're starting to age a bit there also. Orson Charles in the 2nd round would be great also. But IMO the Oline and WR's are going to be looked at primarily in the draft just because I just don't see a need at defense with the current group and youth there.

Rumor has it that Wayne wants to go where ever Peyton goes. Peyton only has so many places he can go given his pricetag, but I would imagine the new team could shuffle things around to make room for Wayne too.

Texan_Bill
01-18-2012, 11:46 PM
1A) A receiver oppo Andre; preferably a guy that could be Andre's replacement in in a couple ..... well a few, NO, several years from now!!

1B) @B... I like Schaub, but he's getting old and worn.

2) CB... Let's face it, while Kareem Jackson has improved a bunch and Jason Allen is better than Kareem, IS it not time to re-improve that position???

Another Jonathon Joseph (or close), PLEASE!!!!!

ChampionTexan
01-19-2012, 12:23 PM
And for me that is

*Drumroll please*

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*CLANG!!*

Jerome Simpson WR from Cincinatti Bengals. Y'know, as long as he leaves behind his Pot. Although I doubt he does, but would like him to hold off on it till after his professional career.

Anyway, He's got the speed!!! He's got the hands!!!, He's got the hops!!! He's got that big play ability!!! Signing him will solidify the #2 spot, or at least have him competing with Walter. Either way he is a definite upgrade over JJ, and now that the fan base wants to torch and pitchfork him out of town, I believe he'll get cut. Signing him would give us a WR core consisting of AJ, Simpson, Walter, 2012#1 Draft Pick WR, and 5th guy. I don't know about you but I like that group.

First and foremost he'd have to prove to McNair that he can hold off the Ganja for awhile. Actually, first and foremost he has to pry himself away from Cinci, then hold off the pot, then we'd have to offer him enough money to steal him from other teams. If we go after him first though we might have a chance, as there are other big name WR free agents that should be targeted heavily at the beginning of the offseason.

So, thoughts?

I'm thinking probably not.

Bengals wide receiver Jerome Simpson was indicted on drug charges Thursday in Kenton County.

The indictment charges Simpson with trafficking marijuana over 8 oz and less than five pounds, according to Commonwealth's Attorney Rob Sanders. The charge is a Class D felony with a punishment of one to five years in prison.

LINK (http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120119/NEWS0103/301190122/Jerome-Simpson-indicted-drug-charge?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

Section516
01-19-2012, 12:45 PM
I'm thinking probably not.


LINK (http://nky.cincinnati.com/article/AB/20120119/NEWS0103/301190122/Jerome-Simpson-indicted-drug-charge?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE)

Beat me to it.

kiwitexansfan
01-19-2012, 12:53 PM
I think Ninja would work as NT. Have ninja gain 10 pounds.
DL----- Watt-Smith-Mario
LB--Barwin -Cushing--Ryans-Reed

Smith doesn't even like the 3-4 DE position, can't imagine he would like being moved inside any.

Perki-Perk
01-19-2012, 03:58 PM
Smith doesn't even like the 3-4 DE position, can't imagine he would like being moved inside any.

Could have fooled me! Looked like he was having a great time racking up all them sacks...

TexanBacker93
01-19-2012, 04:19 PM
A lot of people seem interested in going after a top tier WR. While I think we need an upgrade I don't think the salary cap will allow the team to bring in guys like Dwayne Bowe or Marques Colston. I'd rather use the #26 pick and get a good receiver and use that money to pay our own FAs.

coon
01-19-2012, 07:51 PM
1. Draft WR in 1st. Alot of mocks have Alshon Jeffery going in the late first round some even after 26. If he is available when we are on the board he is the reciever we need. Top 10 pick before this season.
2. Sign FA WR. Hopefully we can land wichever guy gets cut loose from NO ( Meachem or Colston) if not Someone younger and faster than Reggie Wayne.
3. Draft Brock Osweiler. I think he has a higher cieling than TJ and can be an Legit OB in the NFL. Should be able to get him in third round
4. Draft BPA in all other rounds. We really don't have alot of holes in the roster so quality depth across the board is the most important thing aside for wr help this offseason.

Brandon420tx
01-19-2012, 07:54 PM
There is still Harry Douglas and Eddie Royal out there.

redwhiteblue
01-19-2012, 09:06 PM
If Mario walks, I think OLB is our new number one priority. Barnwin and Reed are great, but we would desperately need depth to give them rest and in case of injury.

record
01-19-2012, 11:06 PM
Donald Driver on the cheap as a WR3 or 4? I wish the local boy could go on that Super Bowl ride with the Texans to finish out his career.

DocBar
01-20-2012, 12:10 AM
Let Smith work his FA/cap magic and draft for depth. We have absolutely no reason to reach for a player, at any position this draft. Depth, depth, depth. BPA, BPA, BPA. Make that your mantra. Drafting at 26th, that's our best option. Trade down if possible and go all Belichik on them.