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thunderkyss
01-11-2012, 08:29 PM
Anquan Boldin had a damn good day against Jjo last time. Torry Smith didn't do too bad either.

I think, & this is going to sound like left field....... but I think we should put Jjo on Torry Smith & Kj/Allen on Boldin.

Boldin ain't all that. & Kj & Allen match-up better than Jjo do on him. Torry Smith is a game changer...... get him going & it opens their offense.

Boldin can't beat us, so I say let Allen & Kj handle him. Let him get what he'll get, but if Jjo can shut Torry Smith down, that will keep the field of play short & allow the front seven to do what they do.

amazing80
01-11-2012, 08:35 PM
Anquan Boldin had a damn good day against Jjo last time. Torry Smith didn't do too bad either.

I think, & this is going to sound like left field....... but I think we should put Jjo on Torry Smith & Kj/Allen on Boldin.

Boldin ain't all that. & Kj & Allen match-up better than Jjo do on him. Torry Smith is a game changer...... get him going & it opens their offense.

Boldin can't beat us, so I say let Allen & Kj handle him. Let him get what he'll get, but if Jjo can shut Torry Smith down, that will keep the field of play short & allow the front seven to do what they do.

Pretty sure JJo hurt himself that game.....I would do this


JJo on Boldin
McCain on Smith (McCain is smaller but Smith is only 6 1 and VERY fast, McCain is great with speedy guys)
Jackson/Allen on Lee Evans. who they NEVER throw to

Honestly I am more concerned about Rice out of the backfield and their TE

PHAROAH
01-11-2012, 08:35 PM
I agree Bolden is slow but has great hands and he won't kill you deep so I agree put Jonathon Joseph on Torrey Smith to take away the deep threat and make Flacco throw underneath and run the ball which gives us a better chance to win.

machineo
01-11-2012, 09:13 PM
I'd put Joseph on Torrey Smith too. JJo has a reputation as a good CB so he would be less likely to land a BS interference flag. Kareem hasn't done it lately, but he's grabbed jersey when he gets burnt a few times this season.

CloakNNNdagger
01-12-2012, 09:04 AM
If we get to Flacco, none of this will matter. Balt's game plan usually consists of RR, and then just aimlessly throwing deep passes to Smith. Anywho, I have a feeling Wade is going to take their TE duo away, and make Flacco beat us via his WR's. Once again, if the bulls on parade go nuts, this game will be relatively easy-peasy.

baltimoresun.com
Flacco bracing for Texans' pass rush
Defense ranked third in NFL against pass, sixth in sacks

By Edward Lee

8:00 AM EST, January 12, 2012


The playoffs tend to bring out the best in players, coaches and teams, which is what Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco is expecting from the Houston Texans when they visit M&T Bank Stadium on Sunday.

Houston’s defense finished the regular season ranked third against the pass, surrendering an average of 189.7 yards. The unit also ranked sixth in the league in sacks with 44 despite the loss of two-time Pro Bowl defensive end Mario Williams.

“They’re not afraid of bringing some pressure, lining it up and playing cover-1, playing man,” Flacco said Wednesday. “These guys, they have a good pass rush. I think we’ve got a good offensive line. So as long as we go out there and play the way we know how to play, I think we can take care of that just based on the fact that we have good players.”

OntRavenFan
01-12-2012, 09:20 AM
Nice cover breakdowns on this thread there are a few wrinkles if and that is a BIG if, our OC can come up with some mismatches.

Lets just say we line up in a 4 wide set with Boldin, Smith, Evans and Pitta (who has lined up as a WR before), put Dickson on the line as a TE with Rice as the lone back.

How do you cover this? Even if you could cover the 4 WR set, how do you cover Ray Rice down the seam or Dickson underneath? I can see some nightmare matchups coming for the Texans, well it would be if I was the Ravens OC...LOL

Texan_Bill
01-12-2012, 09:27 AM
Nice cover breakdowns on this thread there are a few wrinkles if and that is a BIG if, our OC can come up with some mismatches.

Lets just say we line up in a 4 wide set with Boldin, Smith, Evans and Pitta (who has lined up as a WR before), put Dickson on the line as a TE with Rice as the lone back.

How do you cover this? Even if you could cover the 4 WR set, how do you cover Ray Rice down the seam or Dickson underneath? I can see some nightmare matchups coming for the Texans, well it would be if I was the Ravens OC...LOL

Simple. You sack the QB. :brando:

BuffaloglennTX
01-12-2012, 09:31 AM
Nice cover breakdowns on this thread there are a few wrinkles if and that is a BIG if, our OC can come up with some mismatches.

Lets just say we line up in a 4 wide set with Boldin, Smith, Evans and Pitta (who has lined up as a WR before), put Dickson on the line as a TE with Rice as the lone back.

How do you cover this? Even if you could cover the 4 WR set, how do you cover Ray Rice down the seam or Dickson underneath? I can see some nightmare matchups coming for the Texans, well it would be if I was the Ravens OC...LOL

Cushing covers Rice in the flat, Flacco gets hit by Connor Barwin and throws a wounded duck toward Rice, Cushing breaks on it and pick six.

BullNation4Life
01-12-2012, 09:41 AM
Pretty sure JJo hurt himself that game.....I would do this


JJo on Boldin
McCain on Smith (McCain is smaller but Smith is only 6 1 and VERY fast, McCain is great with speedy guys)
Jackson/Allen on Lee Evans. who they NEVER throw to

Honestly I am more concerned about Rice out of the backfield and their TE


and those damn screen plays...Seems like the Texans get ate up with screen plays...

BigBull17
01-12-2012, 10:00 AM
Nice cover breakdowns on this thread there are a few wrinkles if and that is a BIG if, our OC can come up with some mismatches.

Lets just say we line up in a 4 wide set with Boldin, Smith, Evans and Pitta (who has lined up as a WR before), put Dickson on the line as a TE with Rice as the lone back.

How do you cover this? Even if you could cover the 4 WR set, how do you cover Ray Rice down the seam or Dickson underneath? I can see some nightmare matchups coming for the Texans, well it would be if I was the Ravens OC...LOL

The refs throw a flag for 12 men on the field..Of course that's uncoverable..

OntRavenFan
01-12-2012, 10:11 AM
The refs throw a flag for 12 men on the field..Of course that's uncoverable..
haha good point. I re-read that post several times thinking something didn't make sense. If I could count I'd be dangerous!

eriadoc
01-12-2012, 10:14 AM
Boldin ain't all that.

707 career catches for 9244 yards and while his catch totals have been down in BAL (like they ever have a WR), his YPC this season was 15.6, the highest of his career. So while he's no AJ or Calvin Johnson, I think you're underestimating the man. He knows how to run routes as well as any, and he'd make KJ look like a fool (an admittedly easy task for an NFL WR).

BigBull17
01-12-2012, 10:14 AM
haha good point. I re-read that post several times thinking something didn't make sense. If I could count I'd be dangerous!

I guess we counter with the dreaded 3-4-5 defense.

Blake
01-12-2012, 10:17 AM
Leave Joseph on Boldin. KJ on WR2 and give some safety help. I also think McCain will get playing time at CB2.

eriadoc
01-16-2012, 05:59 PM
Coaches agreed with you, TKyss, but Boldin agreed with me. He's all that.

76Texan
01-16-2012, 07:31 PM
707 career catches for 9244 yards and while his catch totals have been down in BAL (like they ever have a WR), his YPC this season was 15.6, the highest of his career. So while he's no AJ or Calvin Johnson, I think you're underestimating the man. He knows how to run routes as well as any, and he'd make KJ look like a fool (an admittedly easy task for an NFL WR).

I would love to hear how you spin this! :)

thunderkyss
01-16-2012, 07:45 PM
Coaches agreed with you, TKyss, but Boldin agreed with me. He's all that.

He didn't get us for 143, which he did last game. He was more controlled. The "lock" on Boldin & Smith allowed the front 7 to nullify Ray Rice.

Showtime100
01-16-2012, 08:07 PM
BTW, I think I have a solution to the whole "jj" and who that means problem. Jjo is good for Joseph, since yesterday it's been Jacoby Effing Jones to me so he can be jfj, and Watt gets the honor of just being jj.

Sorry for the interruption. :D

eriadoc
01-16-2012, 09:53 PM
I would love to hear how you spin this! :)

Spin? There's no spin. 4 for 73 and a touch is a helluva game. While KJ didn't **** the bed, I have no doubt that Boldin would not have made those catches on JoJo. As I said in another thread, KJ has improved, in that he's no longer falling down every game and he stays with his guy relatively well, but he just has no ball skills. The next time he gets an INT where he just outplays the WR will be the first.

At any rate, the point of my prior post wasn't to dog KJ, but rather to point out that TKyss underestimated Boldin. The guy is damn good and he's proven it year after year in the NFL.

TheEastwood
01-17-2012, 09:44 AM
Boldin had a decent game. Not great. Just decent.

I think people really have a hard time giving kj his props when he deserves it. He was locked up on his man all day. Yes he still needs to work on turning his head around and playing the ball, but he did that more Sunday then I've ever seen him do. He had a damn good game and just had a couple of recievers make some circus catches on him.


And Allen was the one who gave up the td to Bolden. Bolden turned him around and was wide open. Allen just looked bad

TimeKiller
01-17-2012, 01:16 PM
Boldin had a decent game. Not great. Just decent.

I think people really have a hard time giving kj his props when he deserves it. He was locked up on his man all day. Yes he still needs to work on turning his head around and playing the ball, but he did that more Sunday then I've ever seen him do. He had a damn good game and just had a couple of recievers make some circus catches on him.


And Allen was the one who gave up the td to Bolden. Bolden turned him around and was wide open. Allen just looked bad

Why re-type it? You're right on it dude.

I'll put it like this, KJ went from hilariously bad to so bad it actually wasn't even funny. This year he's improved to playing competent CB, even if the results weren't as clear cut. Like you said, sticking to a man, looking for the ball and even making some plays this year. Say he makes the same step forward next year...would that be competent #2 CB?


Allen damn near made a play on that ball too. If he hadn't been so outclassed by Boldin's route running he just may have picked that ball off with only Joe Flacco and 100 yards of turf in his way.

buddyboy
01-17-2012, 01:56 PM
BTW, I think I have a solution to the whole "jj" and who that means problem. Jjo is good for Joseph, since yesterday it's been Jacoby Effing Jones to me so he can be jfj, and Watt gets the honor of just being jj.

Sorry for the interruption. :D

Once JFJ is released, the confusion will subside.