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RT22
01-03-2012, 06:25 PM
I would love to see signs saying "Steel Luv Ya Blue!" What do you think?

hobie
01-04-2012, 08:15 AM
I wouldn't... that is in the past.. this is an entirely different team. Support this team, remember that one.. but no need to keep living in the past..

texanmojo
01-04-2012, 10:09 AM
This ^^^^^^^^

No way...those demons need to stay buried...

GlassHalfFull
01-04-2012, 10:22 AM
Clever play on words. But, NO.

I am with Hobie and Mojo on this one.

Double Barrel
01-04-2012, 11:32 AM
This ^^^^^^^^

No way...those demons need to stay buried...

Except we have a coach on this staff that was also a coach on that team.

Some of this city's greatest sports heroes come from that era, including Earl.

The Texans have lots of former Oilers as team ambassadors.

The franchise has adopted Houston's football history.

I don't believe in curses or karma. The Texans will win by their own merits and play, not because some fan(s) brought a sign that honors this city's football heritage.

I like the play on words. But, that's just me. I lived that history like many Houstonians.

Hervoyel
01-04-2012, 11:45 AM
I never, ever confuse "Luv Ya Blue" with the later demon-infested Run & Shoot version of the Oilers. I would consider a bunch of signs like this good mojo and not bad karma. I'd be fine without them too but I'd have to break out in a big grin if I saw one.

You know that crappy "Houston Oilers #1" song? For years I've wanted to see the Texans whip out a note-for-note copy with just the team name changed and play it only at Texans/Titans home games. I'd pay good money to see the closeup of Bud's visiting owners box when that came on the PA.

Run & Shoot Oilers can be hanging around as team ambassadors but I feel no particular affection for that version of the team. It's nice to see them again but that's about where it ends for me.

Luv Ya Blue Oilers are family.

Texecutioner
01-04-2012, 12:08 PM
I never, ever confuse "Luv Ya Blue" with the later demon-infested Run & Shoot version of the Oilers. I would consider a bunch of signs like this good mojo and not bad karma. I'd be fine without them too but I'd have to break out in a big grin if I saw one.

How were the Run N Shoot Oilers any different to where they didn't represent "Luv Ya Blue"? They were the Oilers and those were probably the best years of their existence.

You know that crappy "Houston Oilers #1" song? For years I've wanted to see the Texans whip out a note-for-note copy with just the team name changed and play it only at Texans/Titans home games. I'd pay good money to see the closeup of Bud's visiting owners box when that came on the PA.

I've had the same thoughts for years Herv. I'm not sure why they haven't done that yet. I miss that song as hokey as it was.

Run & Shoot Oilers can be hanging around as team ambassadors but I feel no particular affection for that version of the team. It's nice to see them again but that's about where it ends for me.

Luv Ya Blue Oilers are family.

I don't see how. Those were great Oilers years. THey just kept falling short, because they had Jack Pardee who was our version of Kubiak back then. Pardee sucked. The team was stacked though. As much as people want to hate on Bud and rightfully so, he did build a SB caliber team with a few years of those early 90's teams. They were built to win it all, but they couldn't close when it counted and Warren Moon was very INT prone in the clutch.

Texecutioner
01-04-2012, 12:15 PM
I wouldn't... that is in the past.. this is an entirely different team. Support this team, remember that one.. but no need to keep living in the past..

That past is part of Houston's heritage as a football city here. That past is what shaped the pride that many fans have here for Houston sports teams. Nothing wrong with holding onto that at all. We shouldn't only get to cherish the history of the last 9 years which were awful seasons. Sure, that will always be part of Houston's history in football, but so will those Oilers years and the many traditions that took place in the dome. Many of you may not have been a Houston sports fan your entire life and may have just picked up the Texans at some point. That's great and all, but many of us grew up in this town and that stuff holds a lot of weight in our blood from so many years of watching football in this town.

As much as I love the Texans, they still have not compared to my old memories in the dome every Sunday in the Bullpen. They will one day, but it was something special to remember and feel the madness in "The House Of Pain."

Hervoyel
01-04-2012, 12:17 PM
How were the Run N Shoot Oilers any different to where they didn't represent "Luv Ya Blue"? They were the Oilers and those were probably the best years of their existence.

They just were. I felt one way about Bum's team and another about the ones that came later. That's my opinion and it will not change. Bum's teams accomplished more with less and the Run & Shoot Oilers underachieved regularly with one of the most talented rosters ever put together. One I like, the other I have great affection for.



I've had the same thoughts for years Herv. I'm not sure why they haven't done that yet. I miss that song as hokey as it was.

I think they don't do it because they're not petty and malicious like I am and Bob McNair has no animosity towards Bud Adams like I do.


I don't see how. Those were great Oilers years. THey just kept falling short, because they had Jack Pardee who was our version of Kubiak back then. Pardee sucked. The team was stacked though. As much as people want to hate on Bud and rightfully so, he did build a SB caliber team with a few years of those early 90's teams. They were built to win it all, but they couldn't close when it counted and Warren Moon was very INT prone in the clutch.

Accomplished less with more. Therein lies the reason for my not holding them in as high regard as I do Bum Phillips teams of the late 70's.

Texecutioner
01-04-2012, 12:24 PM
They just were. I felt one way about Bum's team and another about the ones that came later. That's my opinion and it will not change. Bum's teams accomplished more with less and the Run & Shoot Oilers underachieved regularly with one of the most talented rosters ever put together. One I like, the other I have great affection for.





I think they don't do it because they're not petty and malicious like I am and Bob McNair has no animosity towards Bud Adams like I do.




Accomplished less with more. Therein lies the reason for my not holding them in as high regard as I do Bum Phillips teams of the late 70's.

I don't recall Bum ever taking the team that far. Did he ever make it to the AFC championship game?? If not, than he never went further, because the Run N Shoot Oilers did make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs one or two seasons and were right there for the win, but they got Elway'd. No one could hardly stop that dude in the clutch back in the day though. Cleveland Browns fans are still hurting from what Elway did to them. Believe me, I still feel the "sting" from that game.

I don't see how you don't hold pride in the fact that we had guys like Munchack, Mathews, Childress and Moon on those teams. Those were 3 HOF's.

El Tejano
01-04-2012, 12:29 PM
I don't recall Bum ever taking the team that far. Did he ever make it to the AFC championship game?? If not, than he never went further, because the Run N Shoot Oilers did make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs one or two seasons and were right there for the win, but they got Elway'd. No one could hardly stop that dude in the clutch back in the day though. Cleveland Browns fans are still hurting from what Elway did to them. Believe me, I still feel the "sting" from that game.

I don't see how you don't hold pride in the fact that we had guys like Munchack, Mathews, Childress and Moon on those teams. Those were 3 HOF's.

Uh...Bum took the Oilers to two straight AFC Championship games. I saw those Oilers as little kid but grew up with the Run and Shoot Oilers. I love them both the same. But Bum went further....alot further.

Hervoyel
01-04-2012, 12:47 PM
Uh...Bum took the Oilers to two straight AFC Championship games. I saw those Oilers as little kid but grew up with the Run and Shoot Oilers. I love them both the same. But Bum went further....alot further.


With a lot less.

I'm going to post this link here now to a very good interview with Bum Phillips. Let me just say that I believe that if Jack Pardee had been as good a coach as Bum Phillips the Houston Oilers would still be here and most likely have one or two of those beautiful rings we keep hearing about.

This is just a fantastic read: Bum Phillips Interview (http://www.profootballresearchers.org/Coffin_Corner/22-05-861.pdf)

Goldensilence
01-04-2012, 12:59 PM
I just wish the city had moved, like Cleveland, to keep the franchise name,records,etc with the Browns.

texanmojo
01-04-2012, 01:03 PM
Except we have a coach on this staff that was also a coach on that team.

Some of this city's greatest sports heroes come from that era, including Earl.

The Texans have lots of former Oilers as team ambassadors.

The franchise has adopted Houston's football history.

I don't believe in curses or karma. The Texans will win by their own merits and play, not because some fan(s) brought a sign that honors this city's football heritage.

I like the play on words. But, that's just me. I lived that history like many Houstonians.


Old team...old demons. I loved the Oilers but they are the past. Keep it there. I will always have fond memories of them...except for the head pig himself.

This is a new team. No need to drag elements of the past into our new hometown team. Create something new and original...

Hervoyel
01-04-2012, 01:36 PM
Old team...old demons. I loved the Oilers but they are the past. Keep it there. I will always have fond memories of them...except for the head pig himself.

This is a new team. No need to drag elements of the past into our new hometown team. Create something new and original...


Same city, many of the same fans, same demons. What's going on inside of me every time I sit down to watch a Texans game was initially formed watching the Oilers. Like many fans I bring the memory of every game I ever saw them play into every game I watch now for better or worse.

One of the things our "new hometown team" lacks is any element of the past. Bob McNair recognizes this and that's why you'll see former Oilers closely associated with the Texans. It's one of the things he's gotten right from early on.

Dread-Head
01-04-2012, 01:41 PM
"The BULL-RUSH Featuring The 'Mario DeSade' . "

Double Barrel
01-04-2012, 02:02 PM
I never, ever confuse "Luv Ya Blue" with the later demon-infested Run & Shoot version of the Oilers. I would consider a bunch of signs like this good mojo and not bad karma. I'd be fine without them too but I'd have to break out in a big grin if I saw one.

You know that crappy "Houston Oilers #1" song? For years I've wanted to see the Texans whip out a note-for-note copy with just the team name changed and play it only at Texans/Titans home games. I'd pay good money to see the closeup of Bud's visiting owners box when that came on the PA.

Run & Shoot Oilers can be hanging around as team ambassadors but I feel no particular affection for that version of the team. It's nice to see them again but that's about where it ends for me.

Luv Ya Blue Oilers are family.

I agree completely. Luv Ya Blue ignited a deep passion in this city. Two pep rallies of 70,000+ people after LOSING games??? I have never heard of other cities doing that for losing teams. That version of the Oilers was filled with characters. Coaches and players that still have a legacy in this city today. Heck, just the names Bum and Earl mean something because of Luv Ya Blue.

I loved the run & shoot Oilers, but you're right, it never ignited the same passion as Luv Ya Blue. It just didn't, regardless of how stacked with talent they were and how many playoff years they achieved. In the end, they are most remembered for one sad thing: 35-3.

I don't recall Bum ever taking the team that far. Did he ever make it to the AFC championship game?? If not, than he never went further, because the Run N Shoot Oilers did make it to the 2nd round of the playoffs one or two seasons and were right there for the win, but they got Elway'd. No one could hardly stop that dude in the clutch back in the day though. Cleveland Browns fans are still hurting from what Elway did to them. Believe me, I still feel the "sting" from that game.

I don't see how you don't hold pride in the fact that we had guys like Munchack, Mathews, Childress and Moon on those teams. Those were 3 HOF's.

C'mon, man, those back-to-back AFC Championship games vs. Pittsburgh Steelers are legend in this city. The Renfro catch that was negated??? The Oilers/Steelers playoff games were considered the two best teams in the league by many fans at the time. If the Steel Curtain wasn't so freakin' juiced at the time, perhaps history would have turned out different. But surprised that you did not know about these AFC Championship games. Bum's team did way more with less than Pardee's teams ever did.

Old team...old demons. I loved the Oilers but they are the past. Keep it there. I will always have fond memories of them...except for the head pig himself.

This is a new team. No need to drag elements of the past into our new hometown team. Create something new and original...

I don't believe in demons. Nothing we do as fans has any impact on games short of 12th man stuff. If a sign like that ignites the passions in fans that built the House of Pain, then it actually helps.

As far as "new team / new and original"...let's be honest here. Nothing the Texans do is truly original. They are a corporate brand that borrowed elements from other teams. The first down chant has been done by the Chiefs for many years. The Bull Pen is simply our version of the Black Hole and Dawg Pound. Running out of the bull with fireworks was copied. The next time this franchise does something truly original will be the first time. It's just the nature of being the 32nd team in the league. They cut and pasted what works for other teams. No fault in using what has proven to work.

We will just have to respectfully agree to disagree about Houston's football history and how fans want to honor it. :)

I think my wife will make a shirt dedicated to "Steel Luv Ya Blue", too. I just need Herv to make me some graphics for it. I'll make him one, too.

Hervoyel
01-04-2012, 02:22 PM
I agree completely. Luv Ya Blue ignited a deep passion in this city. Two pep rallies of 70,000+ people after LOSING games??? I have never heard of other cities doing that for losing teams. That version of the Oilers was filled with characters. Coaches and players that still have a legacy in this city today. Heck, just the names Bum and Earl mean something because of Luv Ya Blue.

I loved the run & shoot Oilers, but you're right, it never ignited the same passion as Luv Ya Blue. It just didn't, regardless of how stacked with talent they were and how many playoff years they achieved. In the end, they are most remembered for one sad thing: 35-3.



C'mon, man, those back-to-back AFC Championship games vs. Pittsburgh Steelers are legend in this city. The Renfro catch that was negated??? The Oilers/Steelers playoff games were considered the two best teams in the league by many fans at the time. If the Steel Curtain wasn't so freakin' juiced at the time, perhaps history would have turned out different. But surprised that you did not know about these AFC Championship games. Bum's team did way more with less than Pardee's teams ever did.



I don't believe in demons. Nothing we do as fans has any impact on games short of 12th man stuff. If a sign like that ignites the passions in fans that built the House of Pain, then it actually helps.

As far as "new team / new and original"...let's be honest here. Nothing the Texans do is truly original. They are a corporate brand that borrowed elements from other teams. The first down chant has been done by the Chiefs for many years. The Bull Pen is simply our version of the Black Hole and Dawg Pound. Running out of the bull with fireworks was copied. The next time this franchise does something truly original will be the first time. It's just the nature of being the 32nd team in the league. They cut and pasted what works for other teams. No fault in using what has proven to work.

We will just have to respectfully agree to disagree about Houston's football history and how fans want to honor it. :)

I think my wife will make a shirt dedicated to "Steel Luv Ya Blue", too. I just need Herv to make me some graphics for it. I'll make him one, too.


Interesting..... My mind is aglow with whirling, transient nodes of thought careening through a cosmic vapor of invention.


http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/Hervoyel/hedley-lamarr-and-taggart.jpg


I'll see what I can come up with.

Texecutioner
01-04-2012, 03:02 PM
I agree completely. Luv Ya Blue ignited a deep passion in this city. Two pep rallies of 70,000+ people after LOSING games??? I have never heard of other cities doing that for losing teams. That version of the Oilers was filled with characters. Coaches and players that still have a legacy in this city today. Heck, just the names Bum and Earl mean something because of Luv Ya Blue.

I loved the run & shoot Oilers, but you're right, it never ignited the same passion as Luv Ya Blue. It just didn't, regardless of how stacked with talent they were and how many playoff years they achieved. In the end, they are most remembered for one sad thing: 35-3.



C'mon, man, those back-to-back AFC Championship games vs. Pittsburgh Steelers are legend in this city. The Renfro catch that was negated??? The Oilers/Steelers playoff games were considered the two best teams in the league by many fans at the time. If the Steel Curtain wasn't so freakin' juiced at the time, perhaps history would have turned out different. But surprised that you did not know about these AFC Championship games. Bum's team did way more with less than Pardee's teams ever did.

Man, I can't believe that I didn't know about that either. I wasn't born back then, but that is still no excuse. I didn't think they went that far. I still don't see how that can diminish the Run N Shoot Oilers though. They were great teams that just didn't win it all, but they had great characters and they were one of the most exciting teams in the league with that receiving core we had and some of those defenses. I think you're still feeling the sting of losing to Elway and the Bills and how Bud left shortly after those losses. I can understand that, but I still think those teams were epic Houston teams that should never be forgotten.



I don't believe in demons. Nothing we do as fans has any impact on games short of 12th man stuff. If a sign like that ignites the passions in fans that built the House of Pain, then it actually helps.

Any time people bring up curses and stuff like that in sports, I stop paying attention to them. That is stuff for the birds. The House Of Pain was real and it was serious.






I think my wife will make a shirt dedicated to "Steel Luv Ya Blue", too. I just need Herv to make me some graphics for it. I'll make him one, too.

My dad has this "Snake Stabler" shirt that he still wears with pride. It's practically yellow it's so old. He loves that shirt and is thinking about putting it into a glass frame. We also still have those Oiler glasses from the gas stations. They look brand new still. Those things were quality man.

Seņor Stan
01-04-2012, 03:09 PM
My dad has this "Snake Stabler" shirt that he still wears with pride. It's practically yellow it's so old. He loves that shirt and is thinking about putting it into a glass frame. We also still have those Oiler glasses from the gas stations. They look brand new still. Those things were quality man.

Yeah, but does he have one of these...

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/4/3/0/6/4/webimg/482151332_tp.jpg

You can get one for 30 bucks... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ken-Stablers-Snake-Venom-Cola-Steel-Soda-Can-/220924846736?pt=US_Football_Fan_Shop&hash=item337025a290)

amazing80
01-04-2012, 03:15 PM
How about


#RespectTheBull

Double Barrel
01-04-2012, 03:24 PM
Man, I can't believe that I didn't know about that either. I wasn't born back then, but that is still no excuse. I didn't think they went that far. I still don't see how that can diminish the Run N Shoot Oilers though. They were great teams that just didn't win it all, but they had great characters and they were one of the most exciting teams in the league with that receiving core we had and some of those defenses. I think you're still feeling the sting of losing to Elway and the Bills and how Bud left shortly after those losses. I can understand that, but I still think those teams were epic Houston teams that should never be forgotten.





Any time people bring up curses and stuff like that in sports, I stop paying attention to them. That is stuff for the birds. The House Of Pain was real and it was serious.








My dad has this "Snake Stabler" shirt that he still wears with pride. It's practically yellow it's so old. He loves that shirt and is thinking about putting it into a glass frame. We also still have those Oiler glasses from the gas stations. They look brand new still. Those things were quality man.

It's all good, man. For some reason I thought you were around my age.

Luv Ya Blue era is what established a foundation for having passion as a football fan for me. So yeah, I definitely have an emotional tie to that team, and I admit a bias for it. My mom was so over-the-top with it that she built a "shrine" in our living room out of blue pom-poms, Luv Ya Blue placard (from game), and an Earl Campbell poster. Watching the Oilers brought my family (and the city) together in a way that I haven't seen with the exception of Clutch City (for the city). Crazy how a mere game can do that...

I definitely wasn't trying to diminish the run & shoot Oilers. I was really into that team, as well. I was a much deeper football fan by that point, since I was an adult and could afford to whittle out some funds to go to more games. That team was a blast to watch. Shame that Pardee was such a linear coach, though. If he had used the run & shoot as a foundation but still had the ability to have TEs and FBs on the roster, I think that team would have gone much deeper into the playoffs. They limited themselves, though, and since they could only do so much with a roster full of WRs, they ultimately were unable to close games in the playoffs.

disaacks3
01-04-2012, 03:43 PM
Good idea, bad word-order.

Luv Ya' STEEL Blue.

Hervoyel
01-04-2012, 04:09 PM
It's all good, man. For some reason I thought you were around my age.

Luv Ya Blue era is what established a foundation for having passion as a football fan for me. So yeah, I definitely have an emotional tie to that team, and I admit a bias for it. My mom was so over-the-top with it that she built a "shrine" in our living room out of blue pom-poms, Luv Ya Blue placard (from game), and an Earl Campbell poster. Watching the Oilers brought my family (and the city) together in a way that I haven't seen with the exception of Clutch City (for the city). Crazy how a mere game can do that...

I definitely wasn't trying to diminish the run & shoot Oilers. I was really into that team, as well. I was a much deeper football fan by that point, since I was an adult and could afford to whittle out some funds to go to more games. That team was a blast to watch. Shame that Pardee was such a linear coach, though. If he had used the run & shoot as a foundation but still had the ability to have TEs and FBs on the roster, I think that team would have gone much deeper into the playoffs. They limited themselves, though, and since they could only do so much with a roster full of WRs, they ultimately were unable to close games in the playoffs.


When they lost it hurt but I wasn't angry or crushed. I just wanted them to win and knew they would next week. There wasn't much negativity around the Oilers at this time (78-79). This team lost the AFC Championship game and came home to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsjXko9N6B0)

And the next year it happened again and the homecoming pep rally was even bigger.

Double Barrel
01-04-2012, 04:18 PM
When they lost it hurt but I wasn't angry or crushed. I just wanted them to win and knew they would next week. There wasn't much negativity around the Oilers at this time (78-79). This team lost the AFC Championship game and came home to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsjXko9N6B0)

And the next year it happened again and the homecoming pep rally was even bigger.

I saw a Bob Allen interview with Dan Pastorini recently (for his new book), and he said that was the greatest moment of his life at the second pep rally. He said that even today, he gets a lump in his throat seeing how this city celebrated that team, even though they lost.

Looking back, it is pretty special. Bob Allen said that he cannot recall any city giving a losing team that kind of celebration TWICE.

Pastorini said his biggest regret was forcing Bud to trade him. Bud asked on the flight back from Pittsburgh if he still wanted to be traded, and he said yes. But, he wished Bud had waited a few days after the game to ask that question, because he would have said no.

For such a brief period of time, that Luv Ya Blue team really left it's mark on this city. It ignited a passion as a football fan in me that still resonates to this day. Heck, I just blew my Christmas bonus on tickets to Saturday's game! That is a direct result of decades of being a Houston football fan. (Just like you, me, and my sons chasing down Earl at that autograph show! lol!)

Dread-Head
01-04-2012, 04:19 PM
Yeah, but does he have one of these...

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/4/3/0/6/4/webimg/482151332_tp.jpg

You can get one for 30 bucks... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ken-Stablers-Snake-Venom-Cola-Steel-Soda-Can-/220924846736?pt=US_Football_Fan_Shop&hash=item337025a290)

Wasn't Stabler 100 when he came here? They coaxed him OUT of retirement.

Hervoyel
01-04-2012, 04:40 PM
Wasn't Stabler 100 when he came here? They coaxed him OUT of retirement.

No, he was brought here in a trade with Oakland for Dan Pastorini and I have it on good authority that he wasn't a day over 85.

He was 100 when he went to play in New Orleans for Bum some years later. That probably accounts for your confusion.

He actually retired in New Orleans in 1984 at the age of 39 though he looked like he could have called Blanda "sonny" the last time I saw him in uniform. Kenny liked to have a good time and he didn't age well.

Wolf
01-04-2012, 04:54 PM
I was browsing and ..

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTqCToYrzoAFwn67t6h8T37jD4GaXpSw 8XsfWqpsSRRLH19Mfyv
back says"if you want to sit down, you should have stayed on the couch"

wow 32 bucks for that t-shirt and I bet that is not officially licensed

http://www.zazzle.com/luv_ya_deep_steel_blue_tshirt-235848954952178356

saw this yesterday and looks like you can customize it.. but not sure about 32 bucks though

Texecutioner
01-04-2012, 05:05 PM
Yeah, but does he have one of these...

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/4/3/0/6/4/webimg/482151332_tp.jpg

You can get one for 30 bucks... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ken-Stablers-Snake-Venom-Cola-Steel-Soda-Can-/220924846736?pt=US_Football_Fan_Shop&hash=item337025a290)

I think that I just might get one of those for my dad for next Christmas. Rep to you for suggesting that. When I tell you he loves that Snake Stabler shirt, he loves it! He is a "Luv Ya Blue" die hard to the fullest.

Having that and that old Oilers glass from the 80's would be really neat next to each other.

My Uncle got him this really cool Oilers hat for Christmas that said something like 78-79 or something like that on there. Had those old school Oilers colors. I want to get that hat myself.

jjjezebel
01-04-2012, 05:25 PM
Good idea, bad word-order.

Luv Ya' STEEL Blue.

I think "Steel" Luv Ya Blue is a play on "Still" Luv Ya Blue. Took me reading it a few times to come to that conclusion anyway.

As someone who didn't grow up here, and didn't know the Oilers from...well...any other football team I didn't follow, it's not something I get real excited over. The Texans have pretty much been the only Houston team for me. But I understand that folks still love the old Oilers too. :heart:

hookinreds
01-05-2012, 01:55 AM
Yeah, but does he have one of these...

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/4/3/0/6/4/webimg/482151332_tp.jpg

You can get one for 30 bucks... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ken-Stablers-Snake-Venom-Cola-Steel-Soda-Can-/220924846736?pt=US_Football_Fan_Shop&hash=item337025a290)

I still have one or two of those cans, the original Luv Ya Blue poster from the first game they handed them out, posters of Bum, the Dolls, players, the little punching doll thing you put over your hand and made the arms punch and the head bobble, most of the .45 records, and other stuff...all by my Texans stuff. That can though is in one of the boxes up in the attic with all my old beer can collection...I had forgotten about it...forgotten no more!

Speedy
01-05-2012, 10:52 PM
I don't recall Bum ever taking the team that far. Did he ever make it to the AFC championship game??

How can you have an argument with somebody pointing out the history and the past and pride of Houston sports fans and all that jazz and not even know the damn history yourself?

Texan_Bill
01-06-2012, 01:27 PM
I just wish the city had moved, like Cleveland, to keep the franchise name,records,etc with the Browns.

Well Art Modell had something that Pud Adams couldn't find with two hands and a flashlight.............. Class.

Texecutioner
01-06-2012, 02:17 PM
How can you have an argument with somebody pointing out the history and the past and pride of Houston sports fans and all that jazz and not even know the damn history yourself?

I don't recall there being any argument at all other than the one you seem to be trying to stir up. We were discussing different eras and people were talking about why some were more important or more special in different ways. You seem to completely miss what specifically was being discussed as far as old Oilers seasons. I was unaware of something that happened before I was born or able to know what football was. I knew they went to the playoffs and played the Steelers, but didn't realize that they went to the AFC championship game when they did. It's not the big deal that you're trying to make it out to be.

Speedy
01-06-2012, 04:21 PM
I don't recall there being any argument at all other than the one you seem to be trying to stir up. We were discussing different eras and people were talking about why some were more important or more special in different ways. You seem to completely miss what specifically was being discussed as far as old Oilers seasons. I was unaware of something that happened before I was born or able to know what football was. I knew they went to the playoffs and played the Steelers, but didn't realize that they went to the AFC championship game when they did. It's not the big deal that you're trying to make it out to be.

Don't turn it around on me. I couldn't care less how you look not knowing what you are talking about. I simply pointed out that you are having a discussion that you don't know the facts about. That's on you, not me. Check your history, get your facts straight, then maybe you can have an intelligent conversation about it. Radical concept, I know.

TEXANRED
01-06-2012, 06:58 PM
What I don't get is when the Oilers went on their playoff run from 87-93 nobody was wanting to bring back luv ya blue. Now it's a whole new team and everyone wants to rekindle the 70's.

PapaL
01-06-2012, 07:30 PM
Hard as Steel!

Respect the Steel!

TEXANRED
01-06-2012, 08:06 PM
Hard as Steel!

Respect the Steel!
I like Hard as Steel.

We could have a picture of a Viagra pill with a Texans logo on it.

Hervoyel
01-06-2012, 09:56 PM
What I don't get is when the Oilers went on their playoff run from 87-93 nobody was wanting to bring back luv ya blue. Now it's a whole new team and everyone wants to rekindle the 70's.

There are a number of explanations and all of them probably contribute to this.

Bud Adams. I don't think many in Houston ever forgave him for firing Bum Phillips and eventually trading Earl Campbell. Bud Adams owned that team in 87-93. He doesn't own this one.

Bum Phillips. Bum Phillips was loved and I mean genuinely loved in this city. Still is. Jerry Glanville coached the Oilers during the first part of that 87-93 era and frankly he was a sawed off little asshat. I can count the number of people I know who liked Glanville on one hand and never get past my thumb. When I meet people who say they liked him I usually don't care much for them. Then Jack Pardee came in and frankly I think Pardee was out in left field much of the time. Wonderful guy, nice man, probably dealing with a touch of early-onset dementia. People might have loved the wins but I don't know anyone who cared one way or the other about Pardee. The Texans defense is coached by "son of Bum" so there's more affection for him than in anyone else on this staff AND he's always bringing Bum around.

The Texans have cultivated this connection because someone over there understands that the LYB era Oilers are about 10,000,000 times more loved in Houston than the R&S era Oilers.

Hervoyel
01-06-2012, 10:01 PM
Bear Bryant speaking of Kenny Stabler

"Ah remember that boy. He looked like a good 'un but he always left his football game in some parked car the night before we played."

(from the September 19, 1977 Sport Illustrated story on Stabler)

TEXANRED
01-07-2012, 03:07 PM
There are a number of explanations and all of them probably contribute to this.

Bud Adams. I don't think many in Houston ever forgave him for firing Bum Phillips and eventually trading Earl Campbell. Bud Adams owned that team in 87-93. He doesn't own this one.

Bum Phillips. Bum Phillips was loved and I mean genuinely loved in this city. Still is. Jerry Glanville coached the Oilers during the first part of that 87-93 era and frankly he was a sawed off little asshat. I can count the number of people I know who liked Glanville on one hand and never get past my thumb. When I meet people who say they liked him I usually don't care much for them. Then Jack Pardee came in and frankly I think Pardee was out in left field much of the time. Wonderful guy, nice man, probably dealing with a touch of early-onset dementia. People might have loved the wins but I don't know anyone who cared one way or the other about Pardee. The Texans defense is coached by "son of Bum" so there's more affection for him than in anyone else on this staff AND he's always bringing Bum around.

The Texans have cultivated this connection because someone over there understands that the LYB era Oilers are about 10,000,000 times more loved in Houston than the R&S era Oilers.

That explains a lot and makes sense. Thanks.

macho grande
01-08-2012, 11:06 AM
Yeah, but does he have one of these...

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/1/4/4/3/0/6/4/webimg/482151332_tp.jpg

You can get one for 30 bucks... (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ken-Stablers-Snake-Venom-Cola-Steel-Soda-Can-/220924846736?pt=US_Football_Fan_Shop&hash=item337025a290)

I do. Unopened yet empty now. Imagine that.