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Double Barrel
12-19-2011, 05:48 PM
Ron Rivera: Panthers’ Trick Play Was Inspired by Little Giants Movie

The Panthers used a trick play to score their third touchdown against the Texans Sunday, and it turns out the play was inspired by the football movie Little Giants. Asked about the play by reporters Monday, Carolina head coach Ron Rivera says the idea came from the “Annexation of Puerto Rico” play the Giants used to beat Kevin O’Shea’s Cowboys on the final play of the game.

“Just so you know, the unofficial name – I don’t know if you guys have ever seen the “Little Giants” – it’s called the Annexation of Puerto Rico. I’ve seen the movie a hundred times with my kids. They’re grown up now,” Rivera said. “So last night we were talking about and they called it everything from the Chud-a-rooskie to the Mauler to what have you. Somebody said, ‘well, it’s from the ‘Little Giants.”

Fumblerooskis are actually illegal in the NFL, but if you watch the play closely, you’ll see that quarterback Cam Newton took the snap and handed it to Richie Brockel between the fullback’s legs (watch video of the play at NFL.com). Brockel went untouched into the end zone for the score to put Carolina up 21-0. They won it 28-13, helping Doc Brown secure one of his Top 3 picks.

Source (http://larrybrownsports.com/football/ron-rivera-panthers-trick-play-inspired-little-giants/105358)

I did not see this play mentioned anywhere (if it has another thread, we will merge).

To be honest, I was surprised that the play was legal. But obviously, after official review, legality was confirmed.

Our defense was caught with their pants down. I would have loved to see them just mow down some offensive linemen when the ball was snapped, but our defenders were completely clueless about it until it was too late.

Texecutioner
12-19-2011, 06:00 PM
We ran a play like that in freaking LIttle League football. That play has been used way before that movie The Little Giants came out. Article is bullshit.

PapaL
12-19-2011, 06:06 PM
It's still a BS play. Legal or not. When you're a crappy team, you gotta do what you gotta do to win so hats off to them for winning.

Double Barrel
12-19-2011, 06:11 PM
We ran a play like that in freaking LIttle League football. That play has been used way before that movie The Little Giants came out. Article is bullshit.

The article just stated that the movie was where Ron Rivera got the idea from, not that the movie created the play.

It's still a BS play. Legal or not. When you're a crappy team, you gotta do what you gotta do to win so hats off to them for winning.

I was surprised that the offense did not get called for illegal motion and/or a false start. There were clearly two men in motion when the ball was snapped, and the linemen were fidgeting while they were standing up.

Is there some kind of loophole in NFL rules? I have never seen this kind of play in many decades of watching pro football.

Texecutioner
12-19-2011, 06:22 PM
The article just stated that the movie was where Ron Rivera got the idea from, not that the movie created the play.


That, but that play has been done for decades. There is no way that Rivera first learned about that play from some little kids movie and decided it was a smart move to do in a real NFL game. Teams have ran the Fumblerooski for a very long time. They probably mentioned the movie to make it seem like a feel good story. Rivera probably thought it was funny to act like he got it from there, but there is no way a guy who has been a coach that long learned about that play from The Little Giants kid movie.

sbalderrama
12-19-2011, 06:25 PM
It looked to me like the offensive line never setup, they were standing around and waving their arms and stuff. How is that even legal?

Wolf
12-19-2011, 06:34 PM
I wondered too. however I think as long as your hand isn't on the ground an OL can basically do what he wants without moving his feet?

I have seen O-linemen point and stuff while in pass protection mode (cough *colts* cough* among other teams)

foo82
12-19-2011, 07:24 PM
I'm pretty sure I've seen the pats do this before. Going to see if I can find it.

Edit:
It was the chargers.

Number 9.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Qt69SYO4c

Texan_Bill
12-19-2011, 07:34 PM
It's still a BS play. Legal or not. When you're a crappy team, you gotta do what you gotta do to win so hats off to them for winning.

PapaBrakolos has this one - dead right. Spot on!!

burro
12-19-2011, 07:54 PM
We got owned by a fictitious little league play...eff

Texan_Bill
12-19-2011, 07:58 PM
Rumor has it that if Wade was on the sideline......


Well.. Nothing. It still would've happened. Kudos to Carolina for making one of the best defenses in the league this year, look really.... REALLY BAD!!

After all, "This was their Super Bowl"! ;) I kid Panthers fan but we've heard stupid, ridiculous shit like that - EVERY year.

PapaL
12-19-2011, 08:00 PM
Rumor has it that if Wade was on the sideline......


Well.. Nothing. It still would've happened. Kudos to Carolina for making one of the best defenses in the league this year, look really.... REALLY BAD!!

After all, "This was their Super Bowl"! ;) I kid Panthers fan but we've heard stupid, ridiculous shit like that - EVERY year.

It's true. It's such a BS play but no one prepares for it. You can only pull that off one time though. Next time they try it OL will get blown up, RB will get blown up, and Ca$h Newton will end up with a face full of turf.

Texan_Bill
12-19-2011, 08:05 PM
It's true. It's such a BS play but no one prepares for it. You can only pull that off one time though. Next time they try it OL will get blown up, RB will get blown up, and Ca$h Newton will end up with a face full of turf.

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Good for you.......... Losers! :facepalm:


#BushLeague

Premier
12-19-2011, 08:28 PM
watch out the panthers might steal this play next..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkA3nxuMJoM

Big Lou
12-19-2011, 09:47 PM
it was OK that the oline was moving because it was unintentional movement like the unintentional illegal touch by the guard on a pass play. Since there are so many plays where the guard gets hit with the ball intentionally, it kind of like an unintentional hold, or and unintentional intentional grounding. or unintentional offsides, which are all good.


Therefs are getting worse and worse. Jeff Triplett sucks in triplicate......

Hagar
12-19-2011, 10:21 PM
I'm sorry but I don't remember seeing the Chicken Little Fleaflicker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCildVCn2No). I would have remember seeing the center turning around and farting!

Malloy
12-20-2011, 04:38 AM
it was OK that the oline was moving because it was unintentional movement like the unintentional illegal touch by the guard on a pass play. Since there are so many plays where the guard gets hit with the ball intentionally, it kind of like an unintentional hold, or and unintentional intentional grounding. or unintentional offsides, which are all good.


Therefs are getting worse and worse. Jeff Triplett sucks in triplicate......

Come on, unintentional movement, it's not like they're sporting a bunch af people with muscle spasms out there. Entire line was moving, and it was very intentional.

I still don't get how this play was legal, I get the 'snap part of it', but the moving OL, not so much...

BullNation4Life
12-20-2011, 07:03 AM
The article just stated that the movie was where Ron Rivera got the idea from, not that the movie created the play.



I was surprised that the offense did not get called for illegal motion and/or a false start. There were clearly two men in motion when the ball was snapped, and the linemen were fidgeting while they were standing up.

Is there some kind of loophole in NFL rules? I have never seen this kind of play in many decades of watching pro football.

Actually the Oline never moved, they were just in a 2 pt stance, which is legal. We ran the exact same play in high school and asked how this was not gonna get a penalty. Coach said 2 things to us as long as we do not go down, touch the dirt, then back up, and the QB does not say 'set" it is basically like being in a "passing" 2pt stance.

Barwin took the bait, hook line and sinker as did the rest of the Texans. No doubt desperate times call for desperate measures, anybody remember the Chris Brown half back pass debacle? but it still remains that the Texans did not come out and handle their business on Sunday...

Ah well, feel bad for Indy Thursday night....

TimeKiller
12-20-2011, 07:44 AM
Great play. Perfectly executed, perfectly timed. As someone mentioned, I can't believe NONE of the defenders just jumped into the OL to try to wreck the play. If all that's been said is true, they would either have to let them burn past the line and probably destroy the play or grab onto them, get a holding called and the whole play would be busted.

Dutchrudder
12-20-2011, 08:56 AM
I think the trick play was inspired by the fear of our defense. They came into this game knowing they struggled against other good defenses, so they practiced some trick plays to get an edge on the Texans D.

Big Lou
12-20-2011, 09:23 AM
Come on, unintentional movement, it's not like they're sporting a bunch af people with muscle spasms out there. Entire line was moving, and it was very intentional.

I still don't get how this play was legal, I get the 'snap part of it', but the moving OL, not so much...

I was mocking the unintentional touch call by the Refs because there would never be an intentional touch by an O-Lineman unless the Tackle was called in as eligible.

The O-Line was moving, should have been a false start, but the refs are douches.

Big Lou
12-20-2011, 09:25 AM
Actually the Oline never moved, they were just in a 2 pt stance, which is legal. We ran the exact same play in high school and asked how this was not gonna get a penalty. Coach said 2 things to us as long as we do not go down, touch the dirt, then back up, and the QB does not say 'set" it is basically like being in a "passing" 2pt stance.

Barwin took the bait, hook line and sinker as did the rest of the Texans. No doubt desperate times call for desperate measures, anybody remember the Chris Brown half back pass debacle? but it still remains that the Texans did not come out and handle their business on Sunday...

Ah well, feel bad for Indy Thursday night....

I saw the O-Line move.........

TD
12-20-2011, 09:27 AM
I saw the O-Line move.........

yeah...ya think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Grwq31pZL-s

El Tejano
12-20-2011, 09:44 AM
Correct me if I'm wrong but down in Houston, that play used to be known as the Bumarooski.

Double Barrel
12-20-2011, 10:40 AM
Now I keep seeing this play every time I turn on NFLN. It's kind of embarrassing for a top defense to get schooled by a little league bush play. Hopefully they feel the same way and just annihilate Indy to get the bad taste out of their mouths.

I still think it is dubious that it's legal, but I'm not doubting it since it has been reviewed by league officials multiple times by now.

Texan_Bill
12-20-2011, 10:48 AM
it was OK that the oline was moving because it was unintentional movement like the unintentional illegal touch by the guard on a pass play. Since there are so many plays where the guard gets hit with the ball intentionally, it kind of like an unintentional hold, or and unintentional intentional grounding. or unintentional offsides, which are all good.


Therefs are getting worse and worse. Jeff Triplett sucks in triplicate......

Come on, unintentional movement, it's not like they're sporting a bunch af people with muscle spasms out there. Entire line was moving, and it was very intentional.

I still don't get how this play was legal, I get the 'snap part of it', but the moving OL, not so much...

How the hell does Titans running back Chris Johnson get away with not being called for movement.... That twitchin' sumbitch! :kitten:

HOU-TEX
12-20-2011, 11:04 AM
How the hell does Titans running back Chris Johnson get away with not being called for movement.... That twitchin' sumbitch! :kitten:

lol

BullNation4Life
12-20-2011, 07:46 PM
I saw the O-Line move.........

but you never saw their feet move, big difference. As long as their feet are stationary, they can twist and point all they want.

here is a better view of it, their feet never moved...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvBMyKZ7VHM

ObsiWan
12-20-2011, 08:12 PM
but you never saw their feet move, big difference. As long as their feet are stationary, they can twist and point all they want.

here is a better view of it, their feet never moved...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvBMyKZ7VHM

BINGO!!

What is embarrassing is our D didn't key on the center. When the center went into his stance and grabbed the ball, they should have been ready for anything. Our guys were waiting for the rest of the O-line to get into a conventional stance - either 3-pt for a run or 2-pt for a pass - but the Panthers just kinda stood around. Except for the center!! As soon as he grabbed the ball, it could have been snapped at any time.
:toropalm: