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EllisUnit
12-18-2011, 03:01 PM
Yes we lost today, yes our defense looked like the 2010 defense, yes TJ made mistakes, Yes we are down 21-0 and inside the 20 and kick to field goals, one of the field goals was on the 6-7 yard line :toropalm:. Sure we got embarrased today.

BUT this season is not over for us, it is however over for Carolina. We clinched the AFC South, and we can still get a first round bye easily. TJ is a rookie we all know that BUT he has played far greater than a 5th round pick. He had a bad game today, but this is not all on him.

The sky is not falling, we are not one and done.

DONT be all up on the teams jock strap, one week thinking they are the greatest thing since electricity, and then thinking they are the scum of the earth the next.

eriadoc
12-18-2011, 03:04 PM
People ***** about losses. It's what fans do. People despair over complete team breakdowns. Today's loss wasn't a loss like this team has experienced this year. It was a complete team breakdown.

I don't think it'll lead to a skid, though.

imatexan
12-18-2011, 03:04 PM
It is just one game, we are still going to the playoffs.

However, it is a big letdown after winning the division on the road and coming home just to lose bad to a 4-9 team.

I guess more reality than anything, this team can be great but it also can show up flat.

BullNation4Life
12-18-2011, 03:05 PM
well KC just beat the Packers so Texans weren't the only team off today...

EllisUnit
12-18-2011, 03:05 PM
look the packers lost to the Chiefs, we def shouldnt feel bad. :kingkong:

BullNation4Life
12-18-2011, 03:06 PM
look the packers lost to the Chiefs, we def shouldnt feel bad. :kingkong:

Not to mention Indy put a beat down on the Titans....

Not a total loss today...

EllisUnit
12-18-2011, 03:08 PM
Not to mention Indy put a beat down on the Titans....

Not a total loss today...

hmmm yeah it was an odd day.

The Cush
12-18-2011, 03:09 PM
I think getting our asses handed to us today can be a good thing for us as it brings us down to Earth. We came out flat and sloppy, a by product of perhaps clinching the South and Wade being out. It's a wake up call to this team that we aren't invincible and have to do more than just show up and go through the motions.

Brandon420tx
12-18-2011, 03:09 PM
I'm not bothered, this is a good game, next time our teams gets high on hype, they can look back at this game and see how they came out flat without a care in the world until Kubiak had to have a word with his team on the sidelines.

MEGA SWATT
12-18-2011, 03:10 PM
TJ got exposed today at HOME. I don't care about AJ being out, AF fumbling and WP recovering right now. I don't have much optimism with him behind center. I applaud you. I'm usually on your boat plugging away. However, I think I will face reality now. That reality is that TJ is not the man for the Texans to make a deep playoff run. I hope I'm wrong.

DX-TEX
12-18-2011, 03:10 PM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/TKELuke/ohNO.jpg

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 03:10 PM
The Texans did the classic "Can't handle their own success" thing and mailed one in. Hopefully this gets their attention and we see them play well Thursday. If not we've got real problems and we'll be one-and-done in the playoffs.

Playoffs
12-18-2011, 03:11 PM
The sky is not falling, we are not one and done.
Tired of the nattering nabobs of negativism???

TexansLucky13
12-18-2011, 03:12 PM
What's amazing to me is that we can still have the top seed even with this loss (a long shot I know). Better to lose to an NFC opponent, after all.

EllisUnit
12-18-2011, 03:12 PM
TJ got exposed today at HOME. I don't care about AJ being out, AF fumbling and WP recovering right now. I don't have much optimism with him behind center. I applaud you. I'm usually on your boat plugging away. However, I think I will face reality now. That reality is that TJ is not the man for the Texans to make a deep playoff run. I hope I'm wrong.

after 1 game, what about the 3 games before this ? He gets no credit for this ?

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 03:12 PM
I haven't seen 13 threads b!tching about the loss today. :thinking:

B!tching in the game day thread is allowed.

Thorn
12-18-2011, 03:12 PM
Tired of the nattering nabobs of negativism???

Yes, I am.

EllisUnit
12-18-2011, 03:13 PM
Tired of the nattering nabobs of negativism???

haha it gets a little old man. 1 week this team is godly, the best ever and the next week they are done with the team and they have no shot.

Just silly

gtexan02
12-18-2011, 03:13 PM
Making a thread about it will certainly make everyone stop talking..

This was a pretty ugly defeat. To me, the ugliest was part was the ending.

An "elite" team shouldn't allow a quick score, throw an INT inside the 5, then allow the opposition to run out the clock like that.

I mean, 3rd and 8 and we let Newton pick up 9? Thats embarrassing stuff right there.

None of this means we should be 4-10 instead of 10-4, but it certainly puts some weaknesses of ours into the forefront.

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 03:13 PM
TJ got exposed today at HOME. I don't care about AJ being out, AF fumbling and WP recovering right now. I don't have much optimism with him behind center. I applaud you. I'm usually on your boat plugging away. However, I think I will face reality now. That reality is that TJ is not the man for the Texans to make a deep playoff run. I hope I'm wrong.


Rookie mistakes. He's not ready. This should be no surprise to us but got caught up in the early success and hoped we'd lucked into one of those rare guys who can jump right in and start driving an NFL offense. We all forget that even Manning made mistakes his rookie year. It's not a case of not believing in him or turning on him. Yates just doesn't have the experience to be successful at this level if the rest of the team isn't doing their part. Today all kinds of crap went wrong.

He might be the guy to take us to the next level for all we know but he ain't ready to do it yet.

BullNation4Life
12-18-2011, 03:19 PM
Let's not forget TJ was playing from behind the whole game. You have a rookie QB have to throw that many times to catch up, mistakes are bound to happen.

Texans will have a short week to forget this loss and move on to Indy....

Playoffs
12-18-2011, 03:20 PM
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a32/TKELuke/ohNO.jpg
Yep, we suck.

Packers suck, too.

Either Tebow or Belichick will suck in about 3 hours.

But the titans (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/recap/NFL_20111218_TEN@IND) suck worse than everyone! :D


...and ^that makes me happy.

DX-TEX
12-18-2011, 03:21 PM
Wasnt all on TJ.


Foster sat out a half basically, played like crap first half.
Defense gave up too many big plays
WR's dropped crap left and right
Kubiak settled for FG's

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 03:23 PM
Like I said in the gameday thread, I'm chalking this one up to being a victim of Upset Sunday...

We lose to the Panthers
the Skins upset the Giants
the Chiefs (the frikkin' CHIEFS?!) upset the Packers
the Colts upset the Titans (they won with Orlovsky?!)
the Seahawks upset the Bears...

this is definitely a trap game Sunday

...and don't look now but the Broncos are up over the Patriots...

:tinfoil:

Wolf
12-18-2011, 03:24 PM
I know the season isn't over ..heck we all know

however, I might have my expectations up too high....
well no I don't, we see what happens in the NFL when teams get relaxed (how many games in a row did the Texans lose last year?)

what concerns me is the turnovers and poor/sporadic play.. However I understand that we have excuses with injuries but .. this is the NFL.

we have lost the TO battle 3 weeks in a row .ugh

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 03:24 PM
Yep, we suck.

Packers suck, too.

Either Tebow or Belichick will suck in about 3 hours.

But the titans (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/recap/NFL_20111218_TEN@IND) suck worse than everyone! :D


...and ^that makes me happy.

I've given out too much rep today :(

MEGA SWATT
12-18-2011, 03:26 PM
after 1 game, what about the 3 games before this ? He gets no credit for this ?

You're only as good as your last game. That is how getting exposed works. If he can get back on track- I'll take it. However, I'm not going to be blinded by homerism.

False Start
12-18-2011, 03:30 PM
Its sucks we lost, and believe me I'm pissed. It will pass though. I am not that down, that I think we're done. I started doing laundry after the Williams TD. I had a feeling we might lose this one to begin with.

It was a sad effort by the team today, and having Wade out really showed. The D didn't look sharp at all. The fumble at the beginning of the game seemed to just deflate the Texans and the crowd as a whole. They need to get their ass in gear, and get ready to move past this, don't let it linger.

We'll regroup, and handle business against the Colts, we better or good lord shit would really hit the fan.

Wolf
12-18-2011, 03:31 PM
I know every one was on a high about TJ..
hell I am too, however.. we all can agree the "next man up is taking it's toll" the kid is still learning.

the Texan offense hasn't been the same (understandable) we aren't the high powered offense that scares defenses.

D1DAVE
12-18-2011, 03:31 PM
Teams lose games. Green Bay lost. We are in great shape. Just got a little ugly today and it is tough to take. We have all seen some really bad losses over the years and we do have a right as fans to be critical. But I agree some doom and gloom does show up on this thread. Just an observation as a recent user of this site. For the most part this is a great fan base we have and a great forum I think.:)

Texecutioner
12-18-2011, 03:40 PM
Teams lose games. Green Bay lost. We are in great shape. Just got a little ugly today and it is tough to take. We have all seen some really bad losses over the years and we do have a right as fans to be critical. But I agree some doom and gloom does show up on this thread. Just an observation as a recent user of this site. For the most part this is a great fan base we have and a great forum I think.:)

Yeah it was a bad loss, but nothing to get that upset over. What worries me more is it being the one game Wade has been out. I hope that he doesn't miss another week and that he comes back with full spunk and strength. I'm sure he will, but we needed his presence today. A loss isn't that bad of a thing if we can bounce back and learn from it.

DX-TEX
12-18-2011, 03:41 PM
This team sucks!! 6-10 here we come and another year of "its all on me"

Wolf
12-18-2011, 03:42 PM
Yeah it was a bad loss, but nothing to get that upset over. What worries me more is it being the one game Wade has been out. I hope that he doesn't miss another week and that he comes back with full spunk and strength. I'm sure he will, but we needed his presence today. A loss isn't that bad of a thing if we can bounce back and learn from it.

we play on thursday and looks like he would be back around sunday
(10 days)

Double Lung
12-18-2011, 03:46 PM
Leave it up to a guy with 6 posts to give a strong breakdown on how badly this forum sucks and how stupid everyone is.

Post count definitely dictates how long we have been a member or lurking.

Good talk

TexansFanatic
12-18-2011, 03:48 PM
Leave it up to a guy with 6 posts to give a strong breakdown on how badly this forum sucks and how stupid everyone is.

Yep. Solid contribution to the board there.

Lurvinator11
12-18-2011, 03:51 PM
I'm sorry but i am going to have to agree with some of the guys on here. Yates will not be the story book QB to lead us to a super bowl. He made way too many mistakes in this game. Interceptions, passes too low or too high. Carolina played a great game, but they were vulnerable and the Texans could not captilize. Even last week, Yates didn't play too well untill the last quarter which of course we all forgot about cause he won the game for us! I hate to say it, but Yates is not the man. Yet. Hopefully we can get a couple of victories in the playoffs. But I just have a bad feeling now. ( I hope it's just gas and not a legit feeling)

TheCD
12-18-2011, 03:52 PM
I think getting our asses handed to us today can be a good thing for us as it brings us down to Earth. We came out flat and sloppy, a by product of perhaps clinching the South and Wade being out. It's a wake up call to this team that we aren't invincible and have to do more than just show up and go through the motions.

Personally, what annoys me about this game the most is they came out expecting to lay it to the panthers just because they clinched the division. It seems as though they felt that they were 'that good' because they were guaranteed to be in the playoffs.

Fact is, they were embarrassed today. Does that mean we have no chance in the playoffs? No. But if they play like that they will get humiliated in the postseason. I can only speak for myself, but my problem with today's loss is that the team seemed to buy into their own hype. Hopefully they are absolutely ashamed of this loss and won't let it happen again.

I think the concerning thing though is that we really should have lost the last two weeks. I'm not saying that other teams don't get lucky or pull wins out like we have, but we could just as easily be 8-6 with how we have played. I am hoping we can pick it up and play sharper in the next couple of weeks because we are playing some teams that quite possibly could give them some false confidence. Something they have shown they are very susceptible against.

TexansLucky13
12-18-2011, 03:55 PM
Leave it up to a guy with 6 posts to give a strong breakdown on how badly this forum sucks and how stupid everyone is.

To his credit, this board does tend to be pretty negative a lot of the time. I was a regular on here for years before I joined the Army, and it wasn't until that time that I realized the pessimism.

cdollaz
12-18-2011, 03:56 PM
We clinched the AFC South, and we can still get a first round bye easily.

Easily?

Playoffs
12-18-2011, 04:06 PM
Yeah it was a bad loss, but nothing to get that upset over. What worries me more is it being the one game Wade has been out. I hope that he doesn't miss another week and that he comes back with full spunk and strength. I'm sure he will, but we needed his presence today. A loss isn't that bad of a thing if we can bounce back and learn from it.

...Gale Sayers broke the news to the team, and they dedicated the game to Piccolo. In typical '69 Bears fashion, they lost 24-21. Piccolo chided his teammates as they visited him in Masonic after the game. "Leave it to them", he thought, "to dedicate the game to him and lose."

EVOLVIST
12-18-2011, 04:07 PM
I think the concerning thing though is that we really should have lost the last two weeks. I'm not saying that other teams don't get lucky or pull wins out like we have, but we could just as easily be 8-6 with how we have played.

Should have...? We SHOULD have lost?

Shouldn't that be, "We very well could have lost?"

Man, just hearing something like that from "a fan," (I'm assuming you call yourself a fan), just baffles me. The Texans won the friggin' games, dude! Which is exactly what was supposed to happen, because it did happen.

No mulligans on wins. Ever! Christ!

Dishman
12-18-2011, 04:08 PM
Leave it up to a guy with 6 posts to give a strong breakdown on how badly this forum sucks and how stupid everyone is.

Number of posts are not a recognition of your education, fandom, etc. So who really cares if the guys has 6 posts? For all we know Wade Phillips could come on here and post then immediately be torn down as some kind on n00b after a single post.

That said, the forum doesn't suck, but there are plenty of suspect threads. I guess the guy needs to post a video breakdown of his points to be considered relevant?

Texecutioner
12-18-2011, 04:17 PM
Number of posts are not a recognition of your education, fandom, etc. So who really cares if the guys has 6 posts? For all we know Wade Phillips could come on here and post then immediately be torn down as some kind on n00b after a single post.

That said, the forum doesn't suck, but there are plenty of suspect threads. I guess the guy needs to post a video breakdown of his points to be considered relevant?

You want to show me a perfect forum where everyone always agrees? One like that probably wouldn't exist that long. But a guy who hasn't contributed hardly anything to this site or said anything about himself really isn't exactly in a position to express how stupid so many people are in here. No need to come in here for the first time and rant about the stupidity of this board other than some guy called CN'D.

People talk about what happened in games.

TexansFanatic
12-18-2011, 04:18 PM
To his credit, this board does tend to be pretty negative a lot of the time. I was a regular on here for years before I joined the Army, and it wasn't until that time that I realized the pessimism.

There's no arguing the board can get negative. But spewing bile at negativity is like throwing gas on a fire.

imatexan
12-18-2011, 04:20 PM
You want to show me a perfect forum where everyone always agrees? One like that probably wouldn't exist that long. But a guy who hasn't contributed hardly anything to this site or said anything about himself really isn't exactly in a position to express how stupid so many people are in here. No need to come in here for the first time and rant about the stupidity of this board other than some guy called CN'D.

People talk about what happened in games.

Exactly!

TheCD
12-18-2011, 04:24 PM
Should have...? We SHOULD have lost?

Shouldn't that be, "We very well could have lost?"

Man, just hearing something like that from "a fan," (I'm assuming you call yourself a fan), just baffles me. The Texans won the friggin' games, dude! Which is exactly what was supposed to happen, because it did happen.

No mulligans on wins. Ever! Christ!

OK...this is absolutely ridiculous. Pardon me, but simply because I look at the game and see that the Bengals had us down and inexplicably stopped running the football down our throats (which was working by the way) and ended up choking doesn't mean my fanhood should be in question. In fact, what it means is that I am saying the Bengals should have won it and didn't. Same thing goes for the Falcons: Had Matt Ryan connected on either of the TWO wide open easy deep TD passes we are looking at trying to stay just ahead of the Titans.

My only point was that the team has played poorly enough to warrant being 8-6. As I said, I am glad we pulled it out, but against a team like Baltimore or even N.O./G.B. that is a loss every day.


I apologize for being a realistic and not a homer in trying to look at how this team could perform going on from here. I you want to pretend the team is perfect and without fault in all of our games go ahead, but that neither makes me wrong nor gives you any right to question my or anyone elses fanhood.

By the way, it's not only low of you to do that just because you disagree with someone. Look to your join date and look to mine. I'm sure we have both loved this team from the beginning, but I have obviously been here since we were terrible. You look like you jumped on the bandwagon this season when we FINALLY started to play well. By mo means am I calling your love for this team into doubt, but it is pretty disgusting of you to call mine into doubt because I am trying to point out my concerns for this team moving forward.

thunderkyss
12-18-2011, 04:41 PM
I think getting our asses handed to us today can be a good thing for us as it brings us down to Earth. We came out flat and sloppy, a by product of perhaps clinching the South and Wade being out. It's a wake up call to this team that we aren't invincible and have to do more than just show up and go through the motions.

I feel our chances of winning a Super Bowl has increased.

A 13 game win streak?? I wasn't feeling it.

But a 6 game win streak... yeah, I'm feeling some of that.

:trophy:

Ryan
12-18-2011, 04:49 PM
I'm not sweating this loss really. Yes, any loss sucks, especially after coming off an emotional high like last week, but honestly i'm glad we got this out of our system. If this happened in the playoffs we'd be incredibly sunk, but all of these mistakes we made today can be corrected, we're getting Andre back, TJ will continue improving, and of course Wade will be back.


We'll be fine, guys. Time for a bounce back game against the Colts on Thursday

EVOLVIST
12-18-2011, 04:58 PM
OK...this is absolutely ridiculous. Pardon me, but simply because I look at the game and see that the Bengals had us down and inexplicably stopped running the football down our throats (which was working by the way) and ended up choking doesn't mean my fanhood should be in question. In fact, what it means is that I am saying the Bengals should have won it and didn't. Same thing goes for the Falcons: Had Matt Ryan connected on either of the TWO wide open easy deep TD passes we are looking at trying to stay just ahead of the Titans.

Dude, you keep saying that the Texans should have lost. Past tense. I don't care, the team doesn't care, and the fans shouldn't care of anything in the past, when it comes to a win, when you're saying the past should have been something other than what it is!

A person can look at so many different plays over the course of several years of the Texans that could have changed the course of their years, but they didn't happen, so obviously they shouldn't have happened. They shouldn't have won, because they didn't!


My only point was that the team has played poorly enough to warrant being 8-6. As I said, I am glad we pulled it out, but against a team like Baltimore or even N.O./G.B. that is a loss every day.


You don't know any of this for a fact.


I apologize for being a realistic and not a homer in trying to look at how this team could perform going on from here. I you want to pretend the team is perfect and without fault in all of our games go ahead, but that neither makes me wrong nor gives you any right to question my or anyone elses fanhood.

I understand that if we keep playing like today then the odds are slim that the Texans make any ripples in the playoffs. I, too, am not going to subscribe to blind homerism; nonetheless, the root of "realistic" is reality; and I don't think it's mere semantics that "should," as opposed to a more appropriate "could have lost," was what's in order.


By the way, it's not only low of you to do that just because you disagree with someone. Look to your join date and look to mine. I'm sure we have both loved this team from the beginning, but I have obviously been here since we were terrible. You look like you jumped on the bandwagon this season when we FINALLY started to play well. By mo means am I calling your love for this team into doubt, but it is pretty disgusting of you to call mine into doubt because I am trying to point out my concerns for this team moving forward.

I've been an Oilers/Texans fan longer than you've been alive - since 1983 - when I was old enough to be able appreciate the game. I was 10 years old. No, my post count doesn't reflect that.

I'm sorry, I simply cannot abide by revisionism. Yes, the Texans did not look like a playoff team today. Thursday will tell whether they bounce back or not. That only means putting a total spanking against the Colts.

thunderkyss
12-18-2011, 05:09 PM
Rookie mistakes. He's not ready. This should be no surprise to us but got caught up in the early success and hoped we'd lucked into one of those rare guys who can jump right in and start driving an NFL offense. We all forget that even Manning made mistakes his rookie year. It's not a case of not believing in him or turning on him. Yates just doesn't have the experience to be successful at this level if the rest of the team isn't doing their part. Today all kinds of crap went wrong.

He might be the guy to take us to the next level for all we know but he ain't ready to do it yet.

I don't know about that.

I didn't think we were going to win out, & don't base my opinion of this team, or Tj on this one game.

We're 3-1 in games where Tj took the majority of the snaps. We knew our defense was going to struggle with the Panthers offense..... & they did.

I remember last year, with Schaub & Aj we were whining & crying about having to score 30 points a game & it's not fair to ask an offense to do so.

That was when our offense was the strength of this team.

I think we're going to be ok. We'll finish 12-4 & if that means the 3 seed, that means the 3 seed. Boo freak'n hoo.

brakos82
12-18-2011, 05:12 PM
*sigh* do I have to do this?

FIRE KUBIAK.

FIRE TJ YATES.

SHISHKABOB ARIAN FOSTER HE SUX AND HIS WIDE RECEIVERS TOO.

BOB MCNAIR IS A SORRY SISSY PANSY BOY FOR LETTING THE TEXANS LOSE AGAIN.

:toropalm:

Now back to your regularly scheduled sane talk. and Kiss my Ass! LOL

thunderkyss
12-18-2011, 05:13 PM
Let's not forget TJ was playing from behind the whole game. You have a rookie QB have to throw that many times to catch up, mistakes are bound to happen.

Texans will have a short week to forget this loss and move on to Indy....

That's stupid coaching.

If you're down 2 scores in the top half of the first qtr, you don't get into a shootout.

You change the pace of the game, you slow it down, you run the ball. You throw screens, you toss it to your backs in the backfield, you pitch it out wide, you use misdirection.

Slow the game down, keep the ball out of their hands... take your time, put up 17 points, keep your defense fresh & win the game.

EllisUnit
12-18-2011, 05:13 PM
I know every one was on a high about TJ..
hell I am too, however.. we all can agree the "next man up is taking it's toll" the kid is still learning.

the Texan offense hasn't been the same (understandable) we aren't the high powered offense that scares defenses.

no we arent, and it dont help we have no deep threat WRs without AJ, and its a shame cause J.J is fast just cant be physical enough with CBs to break away.

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 05:14 PM
I feel our chances of winning a Super Bowl has increased.

A 13 game win streak?? I wasn't feeling it.

But a 6 game win streak... yeah, I'm feeling some of that.

:trophy:

I'm not sweating this loss really. Yes, any loss sucks, especially after coming off an emotional high like last week, but honestly i'm glad we got this out of our system. If this happened in the playoffs we'd be incredibly sunk, but all of these mistakes we made today can be corrected, we're getting Andre back, TJ will continue improving, and of course Wade will be back.


We'll be fine, guys. Time for a bounce back game against the Colts on Thursday

We needed a wake up call.
:pop:
Now let's get back on track.
Barkeep! Another round of :koolaid: please... and make it a double!

thunderkyss
12-18-2011, 05:17 PM
I'm sorry but i am going to have to agree with some of the guys on here. Yates will not be the story book QB to lead us to a super bowl. He made way too many mistakes in this game. Interceptions, passes too low or too high. Carolina played a great game, but they were vulnerable and the Texans could not captilize. Even last week, Yates didn't play too well untill the last quarter which of course we all forgot about cause he won the game for us! I hate to say it, but Yates is not the man. Yet. Hopefully we can get a couple of victories in the playoffs. But I just have a bad feeling now. ( I hope it's just gas and not a legit feeling)

The Jets were 9-7 the first year they got to the AFC Championship game.

Sanchez made quite a few mistakes that year & in the play-offs.


It's not over.

Lucky
12-18-2011, 05:20 PM
Biatching about other forum members doesn't belong in the Texans forum. Maybe it doesn't belong anywhere. For now, it can reside here.

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 05:20 PM
edit: wrong thread
:D

Corrosion
12-18-2011, 05:23 PM
TJ got exposed today at HOME. I don't care about AJ being out, AF fumbling and WP recovering right now. I don't have much optimism with him behind center. I applaud you. I'm usually on your boat plugging away. However, I think I will face reality now. That reality is that TJ is not the man for the Texans to make a deep playoff run. I hope I'm wrong.

I dont think thats the case at all.


Foster put them behind the 8 ball with a fumble leading to a Carolina TD.

The running game did diddly squat in the first half. Carolina dominated the LOS in the first half ...

Recievers dropped a few ...

Yates had one bad read leading to an INT and another Carolina score. Only his second INT in 4 games.

That wasnt Yates being exposed , that was a total team effort that lead to a loss.

TheCD
12-18-2011, 05:25 PM
Dude, you keep saying that the Texans should have lost. Past tense. I don't care, the team doesn't care, and the fans shouldn't care of anything in the past, when it comes to a win, when you're saying the past should have been something other than what it is!

A person can look at so many different plays over the course of several years of the Texans that could have changed the course of their years, but they didn't happen, so obviously they shouldn't have happened. They shouldn't have won, because they didn't!

So you are saying that how bad a team has played doesn't have any bearing on the games it will play in the future? Sure, makes sense. Not like playing poorly will cause us to lose to playoff teams or anything.


You don't know any of this for a fact.

You're right. It's not like we lost to Baltimore or New Orleans by playing poorly or anything. In fact, we have played more poorly recently than we did in those losses.




I understand that if we keep playing like today then the odds are slim that the Texans make any ripples in the playoffs. I, too, am not going to subscribe to blind homerism; nonetheless, the root of "realistic" is reality; and I don't think it's mere semantics that "should," as opposed to a more appropriate "could have lost," was what's in order.

Perhaps your definition of realism is different from mine. In trying to be realistic, I am attempting to compare how we have been playing lately to how we will play in the future. This is the time of year playoff teams get hot or cool off. Right now I am worried we are cooling off. Based on our play that is a very realistic concern.



I've been an Oilers/Texans fan longer than you've been alive - since 1983 - when I was old enough to be able appreciate the game. I was 10 years old. No, my post count doesn't reflect that.

I'm sorry, I simply cannot abide by revisionism. Yes, the Texans did not look like a playoff team today. Thursday will tell whether they bounce back or not. That only means putting a total spanking against the Colts.

Again, I have never called your fanhood into doubt. But to think yours is any better or more important than mine is absurd. The texans have been around for almost 10 years, we have both been a fan for that long. You have not been a fan of the Texans longer than I have nor vise versa. The Oilers are moot in this discussion, this is a Texans message board, not Oilers so you can't put forth fanhood for them here.

My point still stands. It is low of you to call my fanhood into question because I am worried the Texans will have a letdown as they often do. If you have a different perspective then that's great. But no part of what I said was wrong nor was it 'revisinist history'.

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 05:25 PM
Biatching about other forum members doesn't belong in the Texans forum. Maybe it doesn't belong anywhere. For now, it can reside here.

What just happend?
I saw sarcasm. What did you see?
*sigh* do I have to do this?

FIRE KUBIAK.

FIRE TJ YATES.

SHISHKABOB ARIAN FOSTER HE SUX AND HIS WIDE RECEIVERS TOO.

BOB MCNAIR IS A SORRY SISSY PANSY BOY FOR LETTING THE TEXANS LOSE AGAIN.

:toropalm:

Now back to your regularly scheduled sane talk. and Kiss my Ass! LOL
you forgot....

- McNair is a CHEAPSKATE!!

- Wade is a slacker for not toughing it out and waiting until the offseason to have surgery.
- Trade AJ! If he could stand up then could have played today!

...sorry, that's all the ridiculousness I can come up with

:kitten:

brakos82
12-18-2011, 05:25 PM
I dont think thats the case at all.


Foster put them behind the 8 ball with a fumble leading to a Carolina TD.

The running game did diddly squat in the first half. Carolina dominated the LOS in the first half ...

Recievers dropped a few ...

Yates had one bad read leading to an INT and another Carolina score. Only his second INT in 4 games.

That wasnt Yates being exposed , that was a total team effort that lead to a loss.

And we have a winner. Not to mention the D strugging for the 1st half and that TD drive in the 4th.

EllisUnit
12-18-2011, 06:07 PM
i'm confused why this got moved, it was talking about the game today :toropalm:

EllisUnit
12-18-2011, 06:09 PM
Biatching about other forum members doesn't belong in the Texans forum. Maybe it doesn't belong anywhere. For now, it can reside here.

i was not biatching about other members. I mainly talked about todays game, this is like trying a 50 yard FG on the 50 yard line when its first down in the first quarter.

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 06:21 PM
This site is full of some of the most uneducated, ignorant, and down right stupid fans. Some moron asked about bringing Schaub back. The name our defense threads are annoying. The stupidity is amazing.

The Texans are fine and if anything, they needed this.

Thank god for CND's posts and a few others or this site would be totally worthless.


And ignore in 3.... 2.... Bye!

Playoffs
12-18-2011, 07:08 PM
Everyone seems a little testy today, with the loss.

Since the thread is moved, perhaps a little perspective is in order:

http://opgrat.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/wounded-warriors.jpg

Remember our soldiers this holiday season,

Those still in harms way and those returned home to us.

Offer what you can -- a helping hand, a job, your time/understanding...

Or just a handshake and a, "Thank you for your service" will do.

thunderkyss
12-18-2011, 07:32 PM
The running game did diddly squat in the first half. Carolina dominated the LOS in the first half ...

1st Qtr maybe. I'm watching now, seeing some good runs in the 2nd Qtr.


That wasnt Yates being exposed...

Doesn't matter, we need to know his limitations as well as anybody else. That's how we'll game plan around him in the future.

disaacks3
12-18-2011, 07:43 PM
Post count definitely dictates how long we have been a member or lurking.

Good talk No, but when the "new guy" starts taking pot-shots at other members of the forum, he'd better be able to back it up. Other than your childish rant, you haven't. If you've got an X's & O's breakdown of today's game to present, we're all ears.

Otherwise, you're just contributing to the overall "stupidity" that seems to amaze you.

imatexan
12-18-2011, 07:46 PM
i'm confused why this got moved, it was talking about the game today :toropalm:

Ya I was confused of the move as well.

rush2112mn
12-19-2011, 03:53 PM
To tell you the truth....I think they needed that loss. I know that goes against what others would say.
Foster has to have better ball security
TJ is a rookie and is going to make mistakes.......the thing is .....does he learn from those mistakes.....I think he does.....

Defense had some mental letdowns.......

AND NO ANDRE JOHNSON. He is such a big playmaker and everytime he is out....it hurts this offense.......no if ands or buts.........


Fans need to look at the long term picture.....

Hardcore Texan
12-19-2011, 05:25 PM
:smooch:

brakos82
12-19-2011, 05:33 PM
http://images.wikia.com/bacon/images/5/5f/Crispy_bacon_1-1-.jpg

Texan_Bill
12-19-2011, 07:28 PM
http://images.wikia.com/bacon/images/5/5f/Crispy_bacon_1-1-.jpg

I dunno why you're posting bacon, but I want some now!!!

Bastard!

:facepalm: Brakos!



I do have some Turkey bacon in my freezer! :gun:

brakos82
12-19-2011, 07:29 PM
I dunno why you're posting bacon, but I want some now!!!

Bastard!

:facepalm: Brakos!



I do have some Turkey bacon in my freezer! :gun:

:lol:

Texan_Bill
12-19-2011, 07:30 PM
:lol:

:foottap:

brakos82
12-19-2011, 07:33 PM
BACON!!! :smiliedance:

Texan_Bill
12-19-2011, 07:36 PM
BACON!!! :smiliedance:

Squeal like a pig??? :thinking:

brakos82
12-19-2011, 07:40 PM
Squeal like a pig??? :thinking:

No, but your mother did last night.