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stonewhite
12-18-2011, 03:50 PM
TJ just had beginners luck.

MEGA SWATT
12-18-2011, 03:51 PM
Not Yates fault. He is a rookie and Kubes made him do all the work today. He should b passing mayb 18 times all day. RUN THE BALL MORE

Sorry, but I don't buy that. TJ is not able to consistently play in pressure situations. That is evident here and all on TJ. I'm not hating on him, it's a tough situation he's been thrown into and it's getting exposed today at HOME and really killing future home field.

ChrisG
12-18-2011, 03:52 PM
Sorry, but I don't buy that. TJ is not able to consistently play in pressure situations. That is evident here and all on TJ. I'm not hating on him, it's a tough situation he's been thrown into and it's getting exposed today.

Exactly why foster should b carrying the load

Showtime100
12-18-2011, 03:52 PM
Shit. No watching NFLN or ESPN this short week.

I choose to look at the bright side, Family Feud style.....

Name two teams you would like to play after a disappointing loss *buzzer*

Indianapolis!

Is there Indianapolis up there?! DING!

Yes! Numder one answer! Pass or play.....PLAY!

Ummmm, how about Tennessee?

Is Tennessee on the board??

DING!

You win!

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 03:52 PM
The post game callers and Monday morning QB's ought to be rich after this :popcorn:

BullBlitz
12-18-2011, 03:52 PM
Sorry, but I don't buy that. TJ is not able to consistently play in pressure situations. That is evident here and all on TJ. I'm not hating on him, it's a tough situation he's been thrown into and it's getting exposed today at HOME and really killing future home field.

Agree, we aren't going too deep into the playoffs with him.

legacy_gt
12-18-2011, 03:54 PM
it's all about adjustments and the defensive adjustments suck without wade.

D1DAVE
12-18-2011, 03:54 PM
Lets look forward to the next 2 games. And some help!

MEGA SWATT
12-18-2011, 03:54 PM
Exactly why foster should b carrying the load

NO, you need a qb that can make accurate passes and read the defense from the time the ball touches his fingers until it leaves his fingers.

Dpwrath
12-18-2011, 03:55 PM
2 turn overs cost us. o well rest the team we play first round of playoffs.

TheMatrix31
12-18-2011, 03:55 PM
All went to shit after Arian's fumble.

The pessimism and kneejerk bullshit on this board is going to be awful this week. Might have to stay away so I dont feel the urge to slaughter an animal or four.

burro
12-18-2011, 03:55 PM
If nothing else, T.J. is getting a pretty harsh reality check today. I hope he, Schaub, and Kubes spend some time in the film room next week. He's got a lot to learn and after today, we shouldn't have to worry about early success getting to his head.

As for the defense, I think I would rather have Wade's brain in a jar with a headset than Reggie Herring. The drop off is evident.

msbbc833
12-18-2011, 03:56 PM
Atleast it looks like GB will lose and that should over shadow our loss on ESPN. Not like we get much coverage anyway

bckey
12-18-2011, 03:57 PM
The worst thing about this loss is that the Panthers don't have a good defense.

grinch1134
12-18-2011, 03:57 PM
As for the defense, I think I would rather have Wade's brain in a jar with a headset than Reggie Herring. The drop off is evident.

this, offense still is weak with the injuries, but our d hasn't seen this type of drop off.

stonewhite
12-18-2011, 03:57 PM
TJ threw so many balls short today... Smh

Naiirb
12-18-2011, 03:57 PM
Well time for the team to come back down to earth. They have been flying high for the past 7 games. Gotta regroup and refocus and get ready for the Colts on Thursday. Winning the next 2 would be good momentum going into the playoffs.

D1DAVE
12-18-2011, 03:58 PM
If nothing else, T.J. is getting a pretty harsh reality check today. I hope he, Schaub, and Kubes spend some time in the film room next week. He's got a lot to learn and after today, we shouldn't have to worry about early success getting to his head.

As for the defense, I think I would rather have Wade's brain in a jar with a headset than Reggie Herring. The drop off is evident.Yeah drop off indeed is evident. Wade is the man for sure.

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 03:58 PM
Lets look forward to the next 2 games. And some help!

I don't know what upsets me more. The loss, or the fact that I now have to root for Tebow.

gtexan02
12-18-2011, 03:58 PM
Let them drive down and score an easy TD, then throw an INT when you're on the 1, then let them run out the clock to end the game.

UGLY ending

BullBlitz
12-18-2011, 03:58 PM
If nothing else, T.J. is getting a pretty harsh reality check today. I hope he, Schaub, and Kubes spend some time in the film room next week. He's got a lot to learn and after today, we shouldn't have to worry about early success getting to his head.

As for the defense, I think I would rather have Wade's brain in a jar with a headset than Reggie Herring. The drop off is evident.

Our team better be getting the reality check. They are not so good that they can look past anybody.

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 03:58 PM
Not Yates fault. He is a rookie and Kubes made him do all the work today. He should b passing mayb 18 times all day. RUN THE BALL MORE


Kubiak didn't make him do all the work today. The pathetic running game in the first half put more on Yates shoulders than anything. This is the second week in a row we've come out unable to run the ball to start the game. I could understand it against Cincinnati but it's not like Carolina is a defensive juggernaut. The line/backs aren't getting it done early and that's causing a lot of problems.

LikeMike
12-18-2011, 03:58 PM
Well, seems like the day of the ending streaks. GB are probably losing, we are probably losing, the Colts are probably winning - and later today NE will beat DEN...

fiasco west
12-18-2011, 03:58 PM
All went to shit after Arian's fumble.

The pessimism and kneejerk bullshit on this board is going to be awful this week. Might have to stay away so I dont feel the urge to slaughter an animal or four.

Yep.

People need to understand a bad day is going to happen eventually. The team tried to fight back into this game, too many silly TOs will beat you everytime no matter who you are playing. Penalties also hurt us a lot.

I just hope this team understands that if they play disciplined and focused they are going to beat most teams they play.

PapaL
12-18-2011, 03:59 PM
We blitzed a lot today, or so it seemed. Got burned at the end. D wasn't impressive at all but the O looked way wonky today.

Good reality check though.

Wolf
12-18-2011, 03:59 PM
The worst thing about this loss is that the Panthers don't have a good defense.

yep
I will say this , the panthers defense played well, but expected better from this team.

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 03:59 PM
Our team better be getting the reality check. They are not so good that they can look past anybody.

If this don't wake 'em up, I don't know what will.
and now we gotta go up to Indy - where we have yet to win - on a short week.
:toropalm:

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 03:59 PM
I don't know what upsets me more. The loss, or the fact that I now have to root for Tebow.


I can't root for Tebow. I don't care if a Bronco's win was needed to put the Texans in the postseason. I want the Tebow-mania to go away so bad I'd hurt my own teams chances just to make it happen.

Thorn
12-18-2011, 04:00 PM
I don't know what upsets me more. The loss, or the fact that I now have to root for Tebow.

What a horrible thought rooting for Tebow. It was going to happen anyway, but I hate it. Maybe I'll just watch a movie and check the scores later.

EVOLVIST
12-18-2011, 04:00 PM
If nothing else, T.J. is getting a pretty harsh reality check today. I hope he, Schaub, and Kubes spend some time in the film room next week. He's got a lot to learn and after today, we shouldn't have to worry about early success getting to his head.

TJ made some mistakes, sure. But why didn't the gameplan include getting the ball vertical early? That's TJ's game: Vertical.

I stated before that this could be a classic trap game. I just didn't figure the gameplan would include moving away from what the Texans do best.

BullBlitz
12-18-2011, 04:00 PM
The worst thing about this loss is that the Panthers don't have a good defense.

It was pretty good today. Bad loss for us today. Very disappointing.

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 04:00 PM
If this don't wake 'em up, I don't know what will.
and now we gotta go up to Tenn. on a short week.
:toropalm:

Indy. We go to Indy on a short week.

MEGA SWATT
12-18-2011, 04:00 PM
Our team better be getting the reality check. They are not so good that they can look past anybody.

I don't care how much mentoring is done with TJ, film watching, and practice - TJ is NOT going to be pretty in the playoffs.

Dpwrath
12-18-2011, 04:00 PM
i want to see more ben tate thursday. long throws. we can really push yates against the colts. and titans try to get him some good training before playoff i dont care if we lose the next 2 he needs to get used to playing on an nfl level.

Showtime100
12-18-2011, 04:00 PM
I can't root for Tebow. I don't care if a Bronco's win was needed to put the Texans in the postseason. I want the Tebow-mania to go away so bad I'd hurt my own teams chances just to make it happen.

I have to admit I feel pretty much the same way.

BullNation4Life
12-18-2011, 04:01 PM
Damn, well that sucked.

Oh well, get ready for the Colts on Thursday Night...

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 04:01 PM
I can't root for Tebow. I don't care if a Bronco's win was needed to put the Texans in the postseason. I want the Tebow-mania to go away so bad I'd hurt my own teams chances just to make it happen.

I can't stand him either, but dude, come on!

D1DAVE
12-18-2011, 04:01 PM
I don't know what upsets me more. The loss, or the fact that I now have to root for Tebow.Yeah I know. I like the kid, but I am a Browns fan also. Rooting for them is against my religion. Not to mention Tebowmania and ESPN kissing his ass every day.

TexanSam
12-18-2011, 04:02 PM
TJ Yates has to start making smarter decisions. If this team wants a chance to actually do something in the playoffs then Yates has to start improving.

Hopefully this game gets them re-focused. I'm trying to look on the bright side and hope that after the huge high last week that we were bound to have one game where we just played flat. If we come out flat against Indy then I'm going to be really worried.

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 04:02 PM
TJ made some mistakes, sure. But why didn't the gameplan include getting the ball vertical early? That's TJ's game: Vertical.

I stated before that this could be a classic trap game. I just didn't figure the gameplan would include moving away from what the Texans do best.

Funny how things work out. In 2003 we beat the Panthers here in what was widely regarded as a trap game when they were on their way to the Super Bowl. Now we lose to them here in a trap game going the other way.

And Jake Delhomme is on our roster this time, not theirs.

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 04:03 PM
I have to admit I feel pretty much the same way.

Yeah I know. I like the kid, but I am a Browns fan. Rooting for them is against my religion. Not to mention Tebowmania and ESPN kissing his ass every day.

I'll jut hope for good defensive game.

I detest Tebow mania as well. It's so bad, I'm pretty sure Skip B!tchless would let Tim make him scream God's name.

TexanSam
12-18-2011, 04:04 PM
Funny how things work out. In 2003 we beat the Panthers here in what was widely regarded as a trap game when they were on their way to the Super Bowl. Now we lose to them here in a trap game going the other way.

And Jake Delhomme is on our roster this time, not theirs.

Let's hope we end up in the same spot they did. Except for the end result.

Buffi2
12-18-2011, 04:04 PM
Funny how things work out. In 2003 we beat the Panthers here in what was widely regarded as a trap game when they were on their way to the Super Bowl. Now we lose to them here in a trap game going the other way.

And Jake Delhomme is on our roster this time, not theirs.

Isn't it funny- not ha ha but odd - that the older you get. the more you notice the circular nature of things. I'd just as soon not have noticed this one.:toropalm:

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 04:05 PM
I can't stand him either, but dude, come on!
Nope. It's hate and I don't compromise on hate. When I hate something I hate it absolutely. The closest I could come would be to root for Tebow to be decapitated in the first quarter and then for Brady Quin to come in and have a career day. That's about it.

The win would probably still be considered a genuine "Tebow Miracle".

fiasco west
12-18-2011, 04:06 PM
Funny thing about TebowMania.

This week on ESPNs pregame show, they dedicated an entire 30 mins to Tebow. Seriously.

I hope the guy pulls it out today. I really want that first week bye. Especially with Andre's injury another week off can only help.

EVOLVIST
12-18-2011, 04:06 PM
I don't care how much mentoring is done with TJ, film watching, and practice - TJ is NOT going to be pretty in the playoffs.

And you know this how? In all due respect, but earlier you were calling for Jeff Garcia to enter the game, and you didn't even realize that the geezer's not even suited up today.

I take it you probably knew the Packers were gonna lose to KC today, too, huh? :thinking:

D1DAVE
12-18-2011, 04:07 PM
I'll jut hope for good defensive game.

I detest Tebow mania as well. It's so bad, I'm pretty sure Skip B!tchless would let Tim make him scream God's name.
Skip is a numb nuts. He has pics of Tebow and Romo naked im sure.

Naiirb
12-18-2011, 04:07 PM
Funny week for the NFL. Colts get their first win and Packers get their first loss.

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 04:07 PM
Indy. We go to Indy on a short week.

I already fixed it. You're just too damned fast
:D

Buffi2
12-18-2011, 04:11 PM
I'm a little slow here but why do we have to root for Tebow? I truly am tired of hearing that child's name.

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 04:12 PM
I'm chalking this one up to being a victim of Upset Sunday...

We lose to the Panthers
the Skins upset the Giants
the Chiefs upset the Packers
the Colts upset the Titans
the Seahawks upset the Bears...

I'm telling you, the damned world is upside down today.
:tinfoil:

Anyone willing to go against the grain would have cleaned up in Vegas today

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 04:15 PM
I'm a little slow here but why do we have to root for Tebow? I truly am tired of hearing that child's name.

We need the Pats, Ravens and Steelers to lose out so we can keep #1 seed

fiasco west
12-18-2011, 04:17 PM
I'm just hoping for a 1st week bye.

D1DAVE
12-18-2011, 04:20 PM
Signing off kids. Have a good one.

False Start
12-18-2011, 04:25 PM
Its all Thorn's fault! :cutthroat: :heh:

kiwitexansfan
12-18-2011, 04:26 PM
The two best teams in the NFL lost today, no big deal.

I am chalking this up as a learning experience for the team, winning the division doesn't mean jack if you don't win your next game and especially the last game of the season.

Team needs to get back to the 1-0 mentality.

Losing to the Panthers is not shameful, they have a loaded offense and we have a 5th round rookie QB in his 3rd start.

Nawzer
12-18-2011, 04:39 PM
Texans face a tough turnaround with the Thursday night game against the Colts who won today, so they'll be pumped up too.

CloakNNNdagger
12-18-2011, 04:39 PM
Denver just scored again and will be ahead 13-7. Philly leads Jets 7-0.

DX-TEX
12-18-2011, 04:40 PM
Texans face a tough turnaround with the Thursday night game against the Colts who won today, so they'll be pumped up too.

I hope they are fired up.

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 04:41 PM
Blood, sweat & tears

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi9sLkyhhlE

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 04:46 PM
Denver just scored again and will be ahead 13-7. Philly leads Jets 7-0.

And OchoCinco caught a TD today... now I know the world is upside down
:kitten:

Thorn
12-18-2011, 04:58 PM
Its all Thorn's fault! :cutthroat: :heh:

:lol:


I'm not going to live this one down, am I?

BullBlitz
12-18-2011, 05:03 PM
Nope. It's hate and I don't compromise on hate. When I hate something I hate it absolutely. The closest I could come would be to root for Tebow to be decapitated in the first quarter and then for Brady Quin to come in and have a career day. That's about it.

The win would probably still be considered a genuine "Tebow Miracle".

Hate? Really. Sad.

Actually, I like him quite a bit. I hope the Texans play the Broncos in the playoffs.

Kimmy
12-18-2011, 05:07 PM
:lol:


I'm not going to live this one down, am I?

You changed my thread title! Dude, the last time I did a game day thread, we lost. So i never did one again. You better hope all the Texans curses have been lifted. :smiliepalm:

:lol:


You're covered, full disclosure ;)

Cjeremy635
12-18-2011, 05:08 PM
Hate? Really. Sad.

Actually, I like him quite a bit. I hope the Texans play the Broncos in the playoffs.

Why? Did you not just see the problems that a mobile quarterback can give us? I'd rather play a smashmouth football team like the Steelers. No gimics, just football.

Thorn
12-18-2011, 05:13 PM
You're covered, full disclosure ;)

Thanks. Rest assured, I ain't posting on game day ever again until I see someone else's game day thread. :lol:

But, we're still in it. We got a home playoff game in a few weeks. We're still better off than 20 other teams in the NFL.

False Start
12-18-2011, 05:29 PM
:lol:


I'm not going to live this one down, am I?

In my mind....NEVER! ;)

ObsiWan
12-18-2011, 05:33 PM
Hate? Really. Sad.

Actually, I like him quite a bit. I hope the Texans play the Broncos in the playoffs.

It's not hate. At least not for me. It's disgust that people who claim to know that football is the ultimate team game but who continue to put all the "glory" on one guy. Like the defense had nothing to do with keeping the team within striking distance. Like the RBs had nothing to do with making the defense respect the running threat. Like the receivers didn't have to work hard and get open enough for #15 to find them. Like the O-line didn't work hard to give the RBs lanes or #15 time to throw.

No credit to anyone else on the Broncos for their hard work... It's aaall #15.

To Tebow's credit, he always acknowledges his teammates' hard work. It's the media that is getting on my nerves.

Cjeremy635
12-18-2011, 07:16 PM
It's not hate. At least not for me. It's disgust that people who claim to know that football is the ultimate team game but who continue to put all the "glory" on one guy. Like the defense had nothing to do with keeping the team within striking distance. Like the RBs had nothing to do with making the defense respect the running threat. Like the receivers didn't have to work hard and get open enough for #15 to find them. Like the O-line didn't work hard to give the RBs lanes or #15 time to throw.

No credit to anyone else on the Broncos for their hard work... It's aaall #15.

To Tebow's credit, he always acknowledges his teammates' hard work. It's the media that is getting on my nerves.

I couldn't agree with you more. I'll rep you tomorrow when I'm on my PC, iPhone doesn't allow me to do that for some reason.

Hervoyel
12-18-2011, 08:09 PM
Hate? Really. Sad.

Actually, I like him quite a bit. I hope the Texans play the Broncos in the playoffs.


Nothing sad about it. It's a delicious enjoyable "wouldn't urinate in his mouth if his throat was on fire" kind of hate. It keeps me warm at night. I hate him with a smile on my face and a song in my heart.

I tell you what, "hate" is really given a bad rap. Hating something can be a heck of a lot of fun and a pleasant way to pass the time. I hope to never have to watch Tim Tebow play again and really don't care how that circumstance comes about.

JCTexan
12-18-2011, 08:18 PM
I'm just hoping for a 1st week bye.

The easiest way for it to happen is winning out and New England losing one game. Houston would then take the tiebreaker based on Conference record.

TheMatrix31
12-18-2011, 09:17 PM
It's not hate. At least not for me. It's disgust that people who claim to know that football is the ultimate team game but who continue to put all the "glory" on one guy. Like the defense had nothing to do with keeping the team within striking distance. Like the RBs had nothing to do with making the defense respect the running threat. Like the receivers didn't have to work hard and get open enough for #15 to find them. Like the O-line didn't work hard to give the RBs lanes or #15 time to throw.

No credit to anyone else on the Broncos for their hard work... It's aaall #15.

To Tebow's credit, he always acknowledges his teammates' hard work. It's the media that is getting on my nerves.

Absolutely, positively, 100% wrong.

Every time the media, fans, or whoever talk about the Broncos, they ALWAYS mention that the D and Prater aren't getting respect too. People don't realize that by saying that, they're giving the D and Prater, and whoever else credit.

People know it's not just Tebow. QB gets all praise and all blame. The reason he gets all the attention is that the turnaround happened when he came in as starter. Even if he's not helping on the field, that culture changed. He has the team and fans believing in him, in the defense (specifically Miller and Dumervil), in the coaches, and in the gameplan. And as much as the statheads love to harp on the notion that those intangible things don't matter, they most certainly do.

arb729
12-18-2011, 09:27 PM
I understand the loss sucks from an overall record standpoint, but as far as tiebreakers go, if I'm not mistaken this loss doesn't hurt us too bad in the first tie scenario as Carolina wouldn't count for/against our conference record. Can someone confirm this?

TheMatrix31
12-18-2011, 09:55 PM
Yes. If we wanted to lose one of the last three this was the one to lose.

That said, no guarantee we win both of the upcoming games considering our situation. I would feel infinitely more comfortable if we had Andre.