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ObsiWan
12-15-2011, 01:44 AM
Thought this was worth posting.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/09000d5d8250a607/Week-14-Anatomy-Texans-top-ranked-defense

Pressure, pressure, and more pressure.

TexansFanatic
12-15-2011, 02:21 AM
Thought this was worth posting.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/09000d5d8250a607/Week-14-Anatomy-Texans-top-ranked-defense

Pressure, pressure, and more pressure.

Very much worth posting. Thanks.

Malloy
12-15-2011, 03:32 AM
Nice little piece, thank you! :)

ObsiWan
12-15-2011, 05:34 AM
Nice little piece, thank you! :)

Careful how you phrase your posts with Texan_Bill lurking about
:D

Malloy
12-15-2011, 05:54 AM
Careful how you phrase your posts with Texan_Bill lurking about
:D

Intentional! I'm trying to lure him in here :)

Tango
12-15-2011, 07:42 AM
Interesting to see the 6 man and 5 man pressure up front. During the Cleveland game it looked like the Texans also just rushed 4 a lot too.

Also listening to LZ's dad talk about the D, he mentioned how this year the rush is very basic and that we don't rely on much scheming but all physicality and effort. Sheds light on all the comments that have been said about Wade's D is all about letting the players play.

ObsiWan
12-15-2011, 10:03 AM
MODs: Please merge this with Tango's thread.

NFL Network: Anatomy of the Texans Defense

Both provide links to NFLN's Baldinger breaking down the Texans' defense. Didn't see his when started this thread.

Thanks.

GP
12-15-2011, 12:34 PM
Interesting to see the 6 man and 5 man pressure up front. During the Cleveland game it looked like the Texans also just rushed 4 a lot too.

Also listening to LZ's dad talk about the D, he mentioned how this year the rush is very basic and that we don't rely on much scheming but all physicality and effort. Sheds light on all the comments that have been said about Wade's D is all about letting the players play.

I saved the Texans-Redskins game from last season. Don't know why I just decided to watch a part of it late last night, now I'm stumbling onto your comments here.

In that game, the WHOLE defense is standing around (in the early part of the FIRST QUARTER, by the way) with their hands on their hips, acting very casual in between plays. Everybody is walking to their spots. People are pointing to others where to be, arguing about it, and generally NO energy and not any body language that says "I'm elfin' ready to play, bring it on!!!"

Verrrrrry different attitude form last year to this year. A night and day difference. Also, we had Amobi Okoye, Pollard, etc...lots of faces on that defense that are not here anymore.

Wade Phillips and his coaches really did a complete defense make-over. Amazing.

silentassassin
12-15-2011, 01:20 PM
This must've been hard for him to do, he's always doubted the team in the past.

welsh texan
12-15-2011, 02:18 PM
This must've been hard for him to do, he's always doubted the team in the past.

I don't understand this attitude. Maybe when the likes of Jamie Dukes continue to knock us, we shouldn't be saying he's only doing it so he doesn't look like he's made some big U-turn on the Texans.

If you take your fandom out of the equation, anyone who has doubted the Texans in the past but is now well and truly on board is clearly a good judge of ability.

Baldinger doubted the Texans when they were flattering to decieve. Now he's on the bandwaggon because he can see how good we've finally become. Don't call someone out for displaying good judgement the whole way along.

Tango
12-15-2011, 03:04 PM
I saved the Texans-Redskins game from last season. Don't know why I just decided to watch a part of it late last night, now I'm stumbling onto your comments here.

In that game, the WHOLE defense is standing around (in the early part of the FIRST QUARTER, by the way) with their hands on their hips, acting very casual in between plays. Everybody is walking to their spots. People are pointing to others where to be, arguing about it, and generally NO energy and not any body language that says "I'm elfin' ready to play, bring it on!!!"

Verrrrrry different attitude form last year to this year. A night and day difference. Also, we had Amobi Okoye, Pollard, etc...lots of faces on that defense that are not here anymore.

Wade Phillips and his coaches really did a complete defense make-over. Amazing.

Hmmm, interesting. Can't say I've spent anytime noticing their on-field body language between 2010 and 2011. Interesting observation though. Regards to "physicality & effort", I just thought it was interesting how LZ's dad explained it in terms of what Wade's simpler defense meant. The pass rush relies simply on brute force and it appears Wade just arranges the players where he thinks they'll be best to "go after it" so to speak.

Would I would be curious is since you have the Redskins game, do you get a sense for how often we were rushing only 4 vs. more from the game? Baldinger eludes to in this vid that Wade likes to send predominantly 5 in usually. Wonder how that compares to Frank Bush's 4-3 last year.

PHAROAH
12-15-2011, 03:43 PM
Thanks for the article!!!

GP
12-15-2011, 08:08 PM
Hmmm, interesting. Can't say I've spent anytime noticing their on-field body language between 2010 and 2011. Interesting observation though. Regards to "physicality & effort", I just thought it was interesting how LZ's dad explained it in terms of what Wade's simpler defense meant. The pass rush relies simply on brute force and it appears Wade just arranges the players where he thinks they'll be best to "go after it" so to speak.

Would I would be curious is since you have the Redskins game, do you get a sense for how often we were rushing only 4 vs. more from the game? Baldinger eludes to in this vid that Wade likes to send predominantly 5 in usually. Wonder how that compares to Frank Bush's 4-3 last year.

The few plays I've seen from that game, it was a four-man rush and was half-hearted at best. However, McNabb was using three-step drops and hitting all kinds of check downs and short stuff (curl routes, quick slants, hitches, etc.). Which means any kind of rush at all was not going to get to him before he threw the ball.

thunderkyss
12-17-2011, 03:45 PM
Would I would be curious is since you have the Redskins game, do you get a sense for how often we were rushing only 4 vs. more from the game? Baldinger eludes to in this vid that Wade likes to send predominantly 5 in usually. Wonder how that compares to Frank Bush's 4-3 last year.

Back in 2009, we played a very similar style to what we do today.

Brian Cushing was our SAM, he played on the line a majority of the time, he may as well have been the Strong side OLB. Mario was on the other side, he had his hand down, but he might as well have been the WOLB.

We had Okoye, Cody, & Smith between those two, Cody on the Nose. Throw JJ Watt in place of Okoye, Reed in place of Cushing, Barwin in place of Mario & you have our current lineup.

In 2009, Mario primarily rushed from his position, which was usually outside the TE. Just like the OLBs in a 3-4.

The Weakside LB, the WILL, would often line up with the MIKE, over a guard..... just like the Mike & Mo of a 3-4.

We use Quin, pretty much the same way we use Pollard.

Wade's 3-4 is much more like a 4-3 than it is a traditional 3-4.