PDA

View Full Version : Texans Pro Bowl Voting So Far...


TexanFan881
12-14-2011, 03:26 PM
#1 RB Arian Foster
#5 FB James Casey
#3 TE Owen Daniels
#4 DE Antonio Smith
#4 ILB Brian Cushing
#4 K Neil Rackers

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/31937/the-afc-south-in-pro-bowl-fan-voting

No Johnathan Joseph? Cushing 4th? Antonio Smith, Neil Rackers, and Antonio Smith?! Hmm :headhurts:

IDEXAN
12-14-2011, 04:14 PM
What a bunch of crap, nobody from our OLine and Jonathan Joseph not even
in the running for CB ! The PB is nothing but a popularity contest or people
voting for familar names. Maybe some of the deserving Texans can get some help from the voting by players and coachs ?
On the positive side glad to see that Antonio and Cushing are getting some well deserved recognition.
And fan voting ends very soon - next Tuesday I think so get your votes entered at NFL.COM.

Goatcheese
12-14-2011, 04:34 PM
I guess I was wrong when I said zero Texans would make it. Foster must have a good publicist.

imatexan
12-14-2011, 06:13 PM
Cushing and JJ need to get in!

SheTexan
12-14-2011, 06:22 PM
Cushing, Foster, and OD should be shew in's!! AS should make it, but won't. Sad that J.Joe is not there. But, COME ON!! Rackers????? That's funny!! JMO!

IDEXAN
12-15-2011, 06:22 AM
#1 RB Arian Foster
#5 FB James Casey
#3 TE Owen Daniels
#4 DE Antonio Smith
#4 ILB Brian Cushing
#4 K Neil Rackers
***********************
On the basis of the data, the only person that makes it is Foster. They will probably only take 2 TEs & 2 ILBs so both OD & Cushing fall short unless the players and coachs step up for those guys when they vote.
But the voting for the OLine is a travesty - Jeff Saturday is the leading vote getter in the AFC South at center - that's a joke as Myers and his team are having a great year and Indy is winless ! And JJ not even among the top 4 or 5 corners, what an injustice !
C'mon Texans fans, step it up for our guys here in the last few days of voting.

Malloy
12-15-2011, 06:31 AM
Pro Bowl for the masses is a joke, I only respect the feedback & voting of their peers.

gtexan02
12-15-2011, 07:37 AM
Foster is in bc of fantasy

More fans means more voters for things like this. Pro owl may only be a popularity contest but a lot of players are rewarded financially bc of it. It's part of why having a good fan base helps attract big names

HJam72
12-15-2011, 08:21 AM
Foster may be getting more fan recognition THIS YEAR for winning the rushing title last year. It takes fans around the league a while to figure these things out and I figure he gets more credit for it after a season of fans hearing about it than when he was actually doing it. 'Course, he had to continue playing well enough to not look slump-ish, which he did.

J. Joseph? Fans around the league wouldn't know he exists because he just shuts down his man and they both disappear from the screen. He'll probably get all the credit next year, although he should be #1 right now.

Texn4life
12-15-2011, 08:23 AM
Fan voting only counts 1/3 towards the Pro Bowl though, so I'd still expect Joseph to get in no matter what. Cushing is a toss up because you wonder if players and coaches will hold it against him with his failed drug test in the past.

IDEXAN
12-15-2011, 09:25 AM
I really think there's a chance that JJ misses being a PB corner but then makes it along with Revis as this years All-Pro corners ? That would really serve to put the PB selection process in its proper perspective.
I am really a huge Joseph fan because he's a standout cover-guy with superior ball-skills who's also an excellent tackler, a very physical guy who's strong vs the run. And then he's got impressive intangibles to include playing an important veteran leadership role in our secondary this year.
Texans knocked it out of the park with this Free-Agency acquisition this year !

Dutchrudder
12-15-2011, 10:13 AM
#1 RB Arian Foster - Definitely gets my vote, solid #1 RB in AFC
#5 FB James Casey - Has missed a lot of time, hasn't done much since the New Orleans game
#3 TE Owen Daniels - In the AFC Gronkowski is the clear #1 TE. OD should be fighting for that #2 spot.
#4 DE Antonio Smith - His numbers really aren't pro-bowl worthy this year. JJ Watt is having a better year than him.
#4 ILB Brian Cushing - Definitely deserves votes but likely won't do well nationally due to his 'over-training' fiasco
#4 K Neil Rackers - Sure, why the hell not...

CB Jonathan Joseph certainly deserves votes, can't believe he's not top 5 in the AFC.
OLB Connor Barwin should definitely be in the top 5. He's having an excellent year and making a lot of highlights.

Time to go vote some more...

Hervoyel
12-15-2011, 10:14 AM
Regardless of who gets voted in I hope none of our players can attend.

I expect they'll be busy that weekend.

ObsiWan
12-15-2011, 10:23 AM
Regardless of who gets voted in I hope none of our players can attend.

I expect they'll be busy that weekend.

Good point. I'm with you on this.
Pro Bowl should go back to being the final game anyway.

BigBull17
12-15-2011, 12:27 PM
I'm so shocked we are getting shafted on Pro Bowl players...Where is the masterbation smile?

BTW, Super Bowl teams cant send players to PB anyway, so its all moot...

DexmanC
12-15-2011, 12:42 PM
It's not like the NBA All-Star Game where fan voting accounts for
a VERY HIGH percentage of the votes needed to go. In the NFL, players
and coaches decide who goes, whether the fans like it or not.

Texecutioner
12-15-2011, 12:49 PM
How are fans supposed to know about Jonathan Joseph when the Texans don't get any coverage from the media? Joseph is just a CB, and unless a CB has some insane amount of picks than fans from the outside typically aren't going to be aware at how great a lot of CB's are. CB is a position that people don't typically watch on play after play especially when the CB isn't even in the screen of play on every play other than when the ball is first snapped.

Joseph is having an amazing season and it sucks that he's not even listed, but I'm not surprised actually. He's a CB on a team that gets about as much coverage as the worst team in the league.

Doppelganger
12-15-2011, 12:51 PM
It's not like the NBA All-Star Game where fan voting accounts for
a VERY HIGH percentage of the votes needed to go. In the NFL, players
and coaches decide who goes, whether the fans like it or not.

The Probowl would be much better if they took a page from the NHL and had a series of Skills contests. Maybe an accuracy game for QBs, a hands/speed drill for wrs/RBs, a game of 21 for the DBs, and then for everyone's amusement, a 40 yard dash for the coaches!

Ryan
12-15-2011, 12:51 PM
LOL a team who's probably gonna go 0-16 will have more players voted in than us.

Hervoyel
12-15-2011, 12:55 PM
And that's totally fine Ryan. Really. It's just more motivation for the Texans. You get that kind of deference when you're a winner, particularly a long-time winner. They want to get more Texans in the Pro Bowl all they need to do is keep winning.

DexmanC
12-15-2011, 01:02 PM
The Probowl would be much better if they took a page from the NHL and had a series of Skills contests. Maybe an accuracy game for QBs, a hands/speed drill for wrs/RBs, a game of 21 for the DBs, and then for everyone's amusement, a 40 yard dash for the coaches!

They used to do that, until that highly-drafted wide receiver (whose name
escapes me) shredded his knee in beach volleyball (one of the pre-Probowl
events.)

I used to love watching Warren Moon go out there and compete with
Manning and Brady in the QB challenges.

ObsiWan
12-15-2011, 01:16 PM
They used to do that, until that highly-drafted wide receiver (whose name
escapes me) shredded his knee in beach volleyball (one of the pre-Probowl
events.)

I used to love watching Warren Moon go out there and compete with
Manning and Brady in the QB challenges.

Was this when they used to have the NFL's fastest man and strongest man contests...
I thought those were off-season things
...I could be wrong though... you know what they say about us old folks and their memories...

....I'd tell you but I forgot

:bubbles:

GuerillaBlack
12-15-2011, 01:48 PM
The Probowl would be much better if they took a page from the NHL and had a series of Skills contests. Maybe an accuracy game for QBs, a hands/speed drill for wrs/RBs, a game of 21 for the DBs, and then for everyone's amusement, a 40 yard dash for the coaches!

The NFL use to have that, but then putting the Pro Bowl before the Super Bowl killed that.

2slik4u
12-15-2011, 01:49 PM
What a bunch of crap, nobody from our OLine and Jonathan Joseph not even
in the running for CB ! The PB is nothing but a popularity contest or people
voting for familar names. Maybe some of the deserving Texans can get some help from the voting by players and coachs ?
On the positive side glad to see that Antonio and Cushing are getting some well deserved recognition.
And fan voting ends very soon - next Tuesday I think so get your votes entered at NFL.COM.

You are correct. These days the PB doesnt hold NEAR the water it used to.

Luckily for these players like J-Jo there is a little thing called being an All-pro. Thats where the pros vote. Those are the ones that REALLY matter when it comes down to being considered "the best".

I think J-JO will become 1st team all-pro. If he doesnt, Ill bet $5 he at least makes 2nd team.

Playoffs
12-15-2011, 02:37 PM
Pro Bowl Cheat Sheet: Week 12
November 30th, 2011 | Author: Neil Hornsby

The NFL has become a league based on highlights. As the line between fantasy and real football continues to blur in many peoples eyes a couple of highlight plays in a big game, or a single sentence from a respected commentator can mean the difference between being in Hawaii or not. Last year, DeAngelo Hall picked off Jay Cutler four times in a game and it was ďpack your bagsĒ right there and then. Who cares during the season he allowed more touchdowns than picks he made, and who cares only Mike Jenkins gave up more yards?

I have a view that if you give me ANY regular NFL starter, I can choose ten plays from this seasonís body of work that will make him look like a Pro Bowler. Conversely, for the same player, I could choose ten plays that will make him look like benching material. The point is that itís not those plays that matter. Itís the thousand in between that count for substantially more than the 20 on the perimeter.

Letís look at who deserves recognition when we take every play into consideration.

AFC

Offense (starters bolded)
Quarterbacks: Tom Brady (NE), Ben Roethlisberger (PIT) & Ryan Fitzpatrick (BUF)
Thereís a big gap between Brady and the others, but with Schaub now out whose next? Unbelievable as it may sound the level of play at this position in the AFC is so low itís down to either Fitzpatrick or Matt Moore (MIA). Obviously if Schaub was still playing heíd be well ahead of these two but we have an 11 of 15 game base-line and clearly he wonít be hitting that.
Halfbacks: Maurice Jones-Drew (JAX), Arian Foster (HOU) & Cedric Benson (CIN)
Another player to fall at the last hurdle of our minimum number of games criteria was Fred Jackson (BUF). His work as a receiver and a pass blocker would have put him out in front but as with all these choices, itís really a case of which skill-set you value most. Lack of fumbling is one of those and Jones-Drew only just overcomes his problems in that area. Arian Foster, as with Jackson, is solid in all areas (except hanging onto the ball) and therefore weíll take the more sure-handed Cedric Benson (CIN) to round out the set despite him not doing much as a receiver.
Fullback: Vonta Leach (BAL)
More snaps than any other fullback and blocking better than anyone in the conference. I understand Raider fans will probably see a place for Marcel Reece (OAK) who does a fantastic job both rushing and receiving. Heís a weapon all right but a blocker? Sorry, in that regard heís bottom third which isnít a surprise as heís a converted wide receiver.
Tight Ends: Rob Gronkowski (NE) & Owen Daniels (HOU)
Take away the penalties and you have the perfect tight end in Gronkowski; the best pass catcher in the AFC and the best blocker in the whole of the NFL. After that itís pick your poison with good receivers who canít block Ė Daniels and Antonio Gates (SD), or decent blockers who donít get enough receptions Ė Anthony Fasano (MIA) and Joel Dreessen (HOU). Danielsí zero dropped passes swayed me in his direction.
Wide Receivers: Wes Welker (NE), Mike Wallace (PIT), Dwayne Bowe (KC) & Antonio Brown (PIT)
Brandon Marshall (MIA) continues to drop passes at an alarming rate which brought me down to a choice between Anquan Boldin (BAL) and Brown for the last spot. Antonio who? Pittsburgh fans will already know him but Iím not sure any wide receiver has done as much good work over the last five weeks as Brown. 102, 67, 109, 86 and 81 yards respectively is making Roethlisbergerís life a lot easier. As for Boldin, heís had some great days but been a little boom or bust for my tastes.
Tackles: Joe Thomas, LT (CLE), Eric Winston, RT (HOU) & Michael Roos LT (TEN)
Nobody has pass protected better over the last seven weeks than Thomas. In those games heís given up only one sack, four hurries and no hits. David Stewart (TEN) has actually done a slightly better job in pass protection than Winston but heís not close to the run blocker the Texan right tackle is. Roos (TEN) is the next man up with a very balanced performance, just pushing him ahead of Andrew Whitworth (CIN) whoís run-blocking is too far behind his excellent work in pass protection.
Guards: Andy Levitre, LG (BUF), Marshall Yanda RG, (BAL) & Brian Waters, RG (NE)
Levitre may not be at the top of our guard rankings yet but Iím calling foul. Up until last week, when he returned to his normal position, heíd started three games at tackle and another at center. Iím not saying he was great at either but he was better than a lot of the usual starting players across the league in those positions. Please join me in ensuring he at least gets his reward of a Pro Bowl berth.
Centers: Chris Myers (HOU) & Nick Mangold (NYJ)
Iím fairly sure, given how far he is ahead in our rankings, no one will beat Myers to the starting job but Mangold is still in a race for the back up position with Jeff Saturday (IND) and Matt Birk (BAL) hot on his heels.

Defense
Defensive Ends: Terrell Suggs (BAL), Andre Carter (NE) & Brett Keisel (PIT)
Suggs is nailed on as the best DE in the AFC Ė to those who say heís an OLB, lining up with his hand on the ground 56% of the time and (more importantly) dropping in coverage only 11.5% of the time says heís not. From a perspective of rushing the passer Antonio Smith (HOU) deserves a mention but too many penalties (seven),and a weakness against the run, keep him just off the plane.
Defensive/Nose Tackles: Geno Atkins (CIN), Richard Seymour (OAK) & Haloti Ngata (BAL)
All these guys do a great job vs. run and pass but for those of you who like your zero techniques there are two guys playing lights out stopping the run for their respective teams. Sione Pouha (NYJ) does a brilliant job in that regard as does Broderick Bunkley (DEN). Iíd love to find space for either but the trio at the top are all too balanced to omit.
Outside Linebackers: Von Miller (DEN), Kamerion Wimbley (OAK) & Cameron Wake (MIA)
OK, Iíve seen enough. It has to be said. All this talk of Miller for the Defensive Rookie of the Year is sadly missing the point by as much as Blaine Gabbert misses his receivers. Von Miller is the best defensive player in the NFL. Period. Sam Monson is working on an article going into more detail as you read this but if you canít wait then beg, borrow or steal some tape of the Denver defense and youíll see exactly where weíre coming from. In other news, as saddened as I am to leave out PFF favorite Daryl Smith (JAX), there was no way I could ignore Wakeís sheer quantity of pressure.
Middle linebackers: Ray Lewis (BAL) & Brian Cushing (HOU)
Iím happy with the top two but lots of guys have played well in this position. To mention a couple of guys just missing out, Derrick Johnson (KC) and Paul Posluszny (JAX) have had excellent seasons despite all the turmoil around them.
Cornerbacks: Johnathan Joseph (HOU), Darrelle Revis (NYJ) & Lardarius Webb (BAL)
A couple of sub-par games havenít got me off the Revis bandwagon yet but Joseph is the man with the momentum. Not only does Webb have a rating of only 58.6 throwing into his coverage but heís yet to give up a touchdown as well.
Safeties: Ed Reed (BAL), Jarius Byrd (BUF) & Eric Weddle (SD)
As much as I love Troy Polamalu, his maddening inconsistency particularly in coverage, has driven me into the arms of others. Coverage ratings for safeties do need to be used with caution but 57.2 (Reed), 79.9 (Byrd) and 38.5 (Weddle) are all so much better than Polamaluís 105.8 that its worth mentioning in this context.

Special Teams
Kicker: Sebastian Janikowski (OAK), Punter: Shane Lechler (OAK), Returner: Antonio Brown (PIT), ST: Jeromy Miles (CIN)

Kimmy
12-15-2011, 07:00 PM
Regardless of who gets voted in I hope none of our players can attend.

I expect they'll be busy that weekend.

I hope so, too -- but this was nice to see

http://www.flickr.com/photos/krazykimmy/3423382958

http://www.flickr.com/photos/krazykimmy/3423380476

Playoffs
12-19-2011, 12:48 AM
Pro Bowl Voting Ends Monday Night!

Get your votes in. :logo:

IDEXAN
12-19-2011, 06:59 AM
Today is it - last chance to get your votes in for Texans is midnight tonight.