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nero THE zero
12-05-2011, 11:14 AM
Anyone taken a look at the AJC's coverage of our game yesterday?

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/falcons-fall-back-to-1251124.html
Dunta on the game:
“We feel like this was a game that we should have dominated,” cornerback Dunta Robinson said. “I can honestly say that the only team that beat us this year was the Chicago Bears. The rest of the games, we shot ourselves in the foot, on both sides of the ball.

“If we want to be a dominant football team, we can’t beat ourselves. We are too good of a team to make some of these mistakes.”

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/12/04/falcons-implode-vs-texans-and-did-smith-see-same-game/
They lost 17-10 to the remains of the Houston Texans. They lost to a team with a rookie first-time starter at quarterback (T.J. Yates). They lost to a team with its three best players on the sideline with injuries: quarterback Matt Schaub (broken foot), wide receiver Andre Johnson (who left with a hamstring pull in the second half) and linebacker Mario Williams (lost for the season in October with a torn pectoral).

Houston’s leftovers do not comprise an awful team. They just don’t comprise a team that should’ve beaten the Falcons.

Yet, this is how the Falcons responded: Wide receivers Roddy White and Julio Jones dropped a blur of passes. Quarterback Matt Ryan was dreadful — overthrowing receivers and twice intercepted. Ryan also had a delay-of-game penalty on a crucial fourth-and-1 late in the game. He was outplayed by Yates. It was difficult to tell who was making his 58th start and who was in his first.

The defense knew the Texans would run the ball. It couldn’t stop them, either because players were in the wrong spots, or missed tackles, or got flattened.

This was a bad loss. A little anger seemed in order. What happened to the edge?

It got worse.

Smith referred to the Texans as “a measuring stick for our team in December.”

A measuring stick. Really? T.J. Yates, no Johnson, no Williams?

“The team that won the Super Bowl had 18 guys on injured reserve,” Smith responded. “This is a league of teams that have a lot of depth.”

So now Smith was comparing Houston, which never has made the playoffs, to the Green Bay Packers.

There were excuses. A potential 90-yard fumble return for a touchdown by James Sanders in the first quarter was nullified when players from both teams left the sideline, believing it was an incomplete pass and play was dead. (The Falcon penalized: Ray Edwards. So he made an impact.) In the fourth quarter, with the game tied 10-10, a 31-yard interception return for a touchdown by Peterson was voided by a holding penalty by Dunta Robinson. (Again, a high-profile acquisition making the wrong impact.)
Notice, not even a question, not a mention, as to the veracity of the call.

Obviously this is an Atlanta paper and they will and should write to their audience. But, come on. You got beat on the road by a 9-3 team with one of the best defenses and running games in the NFL.

I find this kind of reaction insulting.

michaelm
12-05-2011, 11:17 AM
I don't disagree with you, but whatever, ATL.

SCOREBOARD

Texan_Bill
12-05-2011, 11:18 AM
Anyone taken a look at the AJC's coverage of our game yesterday?

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/falcons-fall-back-to-1251124.html
Dunta on the game:


On the "fumble":

Notice, not even a question, not a mention, as to the veracity of the call.

http://blogs.ajc.com/jeff-schultz-blog/2011/12/04/falcons-implode-vs-texans-and-did-smith-see-same-game/


Obviously this is an Atlanta paper and they will and should write to their audience. But, come on. You got beat on the road by a 9-3 team with one of the best defenses and running games in the NFL.

I find this kind of reaction insulting.


Meh, don't get too worked up about it. It's an Atlanta "homer" hack. :lion:

GuerillaBlack
12-05-2011, 11:25 AM
They mad.

ChampionTexan
12-05-2011, 11:27 AM
Anyone taken a look at the AJC's coverage of our game yesterday?


Dunta on the game:
We feel like this was a game that we should have dominated, cornerback Dunta Robinson said. I can honestly say that the only team that beat us this year was the Chicago Bears. The rest of the games, we shot ourselves in the foot, on both sides of the ball.

If we want to be a dominant football team, we cant beat ourselves. We are too good of a team to make some of these mistakes.




This sort of thing seems to have happened to Dunta's teams quite a bit over the course of his career.

Double Barrel
12-05-2011, 11:28 AM
Who cares what losers think? Looks like a bunch of excuses to me.

Foster made D.Rob look like a chump on quite a few plays. Considering Robinson's 'specialty' is tackling (as opposed to coverage), I'm really glad he's not a Texan.

El Tejano
12-05-2011, 11:29 AM
I kind of agree with Dunta though. If they don't make the mistakes on the defensive TDs that got called back, we most likely loose. We basically showed that if you screw up against us we will beat you. Our defense won that game though.

GP
12-05-2011, 11:32 AM
I like how that one quote talked about how it was absurd for the Falcons head coach, Smith, to compare us to the Packers last year who had 18 guys on injured reserve.

Look, nobody last year thought the Packers would dominate in the playoffs and win the whole thing. A few did, obviously, but hindsight is 20/20 as it always is.

I'm not saying WE are this year's Packers. I'm saying that the person who wrote that Coach Smith shouldn't have compared us to the Packers...that guy should slow down a bit. Anything is possible.

The way this team has found a way to succeed no matter what happens is amazing. Plain and simple.

And Dunta is running his mouth about his own team again. Those guys better watch out, Dunta will turn on them in a heartbeat. We know that all too well around here. When the shit hits the fan, Dunta's there to point fingers and act like he's above rebuke or reproach for it. Same game, obviously.

ObsiWan
12-05-2011, 11:32 AM
They mad.

Oh well....
I sense a failure to recognize the truth.
This.... The defense knew the Texans would run the ball. It couldn’t stop them, either because players were in the wrong spots, or missed tackles, or got flattened.

...says we BEAT you.
:fingergun:

thunderkyss
12-05-2011, 11:32 AM
Anyone taken a look at the AJC's coverage of our game yesterday?


I find this kind of reaction insulting.


With all that was involved with that game, I don't really expect much different from an Atlanta paper. I doubt it would have been different if that was Indy, New England, or Pittsburgh.

We ain't nobody yet, they were favored to win on the road for obvious reasons.

I think the game says more about the Houston Texans than the Atlanta Falcons... & their response reflects that. They were supposed to win.

Didn't

but were supposed to.

Corrosion
12-05-2011, 11:37 AM
I like how that one quote talked about how it was absurd for the Falcons head coach, Smith, to compare us to the Packers last year who had 18 guys on injured reserve.

Look, nobody last year thought the Packers would dominate in the playoffs and win the whole thing. A few did, obviously, but hindsight is 20/20 as it always is.

I'm not saying WE are this year's Packers. I'm saying that the person who wrote that Coach Smith shouldn't have compared us to the Packers...that guy should slow down a bit. Anything is possible.

The way this team has found a way to succeed no matter what happens is amazing. Plain and simple.

And Dunta is running his mouth about his own team again. Those guys better watch out, Dunta will turn on them in a heartbeat. We know that all too well around here. When the shit hits the fan, Dunta's there to point fingers and act like he's above rebuke or reproach for it. Same game, obviously.

The Packers didnt have anyone on IR comparable to MW , Schaub or AJ ..... Their best players were on the field when it counted and they made the most of their opportunity.
Take Aaron Rodgers away from that team and they likely look much like the Dolts.
The Texans best players are on the sidelines ..... and they are still winning.

Hervoyel
12-05-2011, 11:45 AM
They did make a lot of mistakes. Nobody can deny that or should even try. Ryan overthrew his receivers, was out of sync with them (resulting in the interceptions) and his receivers dropped a lot of balls. If they don't make those mistakes then yes, the Falcons very likely win the game.

But they did make those mistakes and some of them were as a result of what our defense was doing. To deny that would also be wrong.

Additionally 16 games were played this week and in all 16 of them teams made mistakes. Both teams. AJ droppped a pass, so did Jacoby. I remember a near pick that wasn't, I remember a fumble that shouldn't have been called that but nevertheless it was called and so it counts as a mistake. Every team makes mistakes. When their opponent finds a way to capitalize on it they get beat because of their mistakes.

HJam72
12-05-2011, 11:49 AM
They did make a lot of mistakes. Nobody can deny that or should even try. Ryan overthrew his receivers, was out of sync with them (resulting in the interceptions) and his receivers dropped a lot of balls. If they don't make those mistakes then yes, the Falcons very likely win the game.

But they did make those mistakes and some of them were as a result of what our defense was doing. To deny that would also be wrong.

Additionally 16 games were played this week and in all 16 of them teams made mistakes. Both teams. AJ droppped a pass, so did Jacoby. I remember a near pick that wasn't, I remember a fumble that shouldn't have been called that but nevertheless it was called and so it counts as a mistake. Every team makes mistakes. When their opponent finds a way to capitalize on it they get beat because of their mistakes.

Great post, 'specially the bolded.

HJam72
12-05-2011, 11:50 AM
What they don't know is that Dunta is still on our payroll. :fingergun:

Rick did pay 'im this weekend. :)

brad77
12-05-2011, 12:02 PM
I have enjoyed this season.It has been nice to see how much depth we have. I see players stepping up like Yates and taking care of business...Of course it is tough to win with multiple super stars sidelined, however, there have never been excuses made by any of our players. I see them come in week in and week out and play the game hard as a TEAM this is what will make us a tough contender down the stretch..

also a quick s/o to the fans...it was so loud in the stadium and that made it tough for the other team as well..

Playoffs
12-05-2011, 12:10 PM
:yap:yap:yap ......... :listening:listening:listening

ThaShark316
12-05-2011, 12:14 PM
The worst sports town in America's paper trying to be edgy. Spare me, Atlanta. Go wallow in NFC purgatory.

GP
12-05-2011, 12:19 PM
The Packers didnt have anyone on IR comparable to MW , Schaub or AJ ..... Their best players were on the field when it counted and they made the most of their opportunity.
Take Aaron Rodgers away from that team and they likely look much like the Dolts.
The Texans best players are on the sidelines ..... and they are still winning.

Correct, which is something that author failed to mention. The coach is saying we resemble the Packers of 2010 in regards to injuries...but what the author didn't stop to analyze is the extent to which Smith's comparison is amplified had he just looked it up and compared us and the Packers.

Instead, the author dismisses the coach COMPLETELY for throwing out such an outlandish excuse or claim...when in reality he might have been startled to see that we've been winning without superstars. But, he felt a need to totally berate his team and to build up a straw man and burn it down (with the straw man being us lowly Texans who shouldn't have beaten such a powerful team like the Falcons).