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MojoMan
12-04-2011, 04:44 PM
Tebow and the Broncos win again, climbing into first place in the AFC West in the process.

The Broncos are now 6-1 with Tebow as the starting quarterback.

Sooner or later, the doubters are going to learn their lesson.

Tebowmania takes Broncos into first place (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/12/04/tebowmania-takes-broncos-into-first-place/)

Trailing by eight at halftime and two more times thereafter, the Broncos had the Vikings right where they wanted them.

And, as usual, the Tebowmaniacs found a way to win late.

After a 13-play, 59-yard drive gave the Vikings a three-point lead on a Ryan Longwell field goal, the Broncos moved down the field with a seven-play, 52-yard drive, which tied the game at 32, with 1:33 to play.

And on the very next play, Vikings quarterback Christian Ponder threw his second interception of the day, giving the Broncos the ball at the Minnesota 15. Six plays later, Matt Prater nailed his second field goal of the game, and of the quarter, delivering the fifth win in six games.

Tebow completed 10 of 15 passes for 202 yards and two touchdowns, which translates to a passer rating of 149.3. He ran the ball only four times, for 13 yards.

The loss overshadowed Ponder setting a franchise rookie record for passing yards, with 381. Percy Harvin caught eight passes for 156 yards and two touchdowns.

With the Raiders being blown out in Miami, the 7-5 Broncos are now in first place, based on tiebreakers. For the wild-card chase, the Broncos also hold the head-to-head tiebreaker over the Bengals and the Jets, but not the Titans.

Doppelganger
12-04-2011, 05:07 PM
Tebow and the Broncos win again, climbing into first place in the AFC West in the process.

The Broncos are now 6-1 with Tebow as the starting quarterback.

Sooner or later, the doubters are going to learn their lesson.

Tebow has a LONG way to go. He is having a great season, but he has to do this over multiple seasons before we know how succesful he can be.

Remember Mr. Wunderlic's first year? He was running all over the place passing poorly and the line his fans used was "he just wins." Fast forward a couple of years and suddenly Mr. Wunderlic was not nearly as good as people thought.

Broncos are 6-1 now, let's see how he does after a couple of years.

Showtime100
12-04-2011, 05:18 PM
Next case....Vince Young.

JCTexan
12-04-2011, 05:36 PM
I like Tebow and I hope he succeeds and does well. I will definitely be rooting for him (unless he faces the Texans). However, I think he will struggle against the elite teams in the NFL. I think Detroit showed some of that, and I would have predicted a blow-out loss for them next week if the Chicago offense wasn't in such disarray. It will still be a tough game for Tebow next week against that Chicago defense.

ziggy29
12-04-2011, 06:05 PM
It will still be a tough game for Tebow next week against that Chicago defense.

True. but anyone who thinks the Texans have a QB problem haven't seen something called "Caleb Hanie" playing QB for Da Bears in the last two weeks. And Forte is hurt. The Broncos could win that game with 10 points.

JCTexan
12-04-2011, 06:09 PM
True. but anyone who thinks the Texans have a QB problem haven't seen something called "Caleb Hanie" playing QB for Da Bears in the last two weeks. And Forte is hurt. The Broncos could win that game with 10 points.

Which is why I made the comment about the Chicago offense being in disarray.

ziggy29
12-04-2011, 06:10 PM
Which is why I made the comment about the Chicago offense being in disarray.

Agreed -- I'd just add that in this case, "in disarray" is an understatement...

TexanSam
12-04-2011, 07:00 PM
Tim Tebow. All he does is win!

This is awesome
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNC8xRo9vXY

Playoffs
12-04-2011, 07:28 PM
Funny ... no one in this country outside of SE Texas knows the Texans are 9-3 because of the Tebowmania. http://www.gtaforums.com/html//emoticons/lol.gif

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/2011/10/tebowing2-100x100.jpghttp://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/square/000/007/383/tebow.jpghttp://img.izismile.com/img/img4/20111031/100/planking_out_tebowing_in_100_22.jpg

Ryan
12-04-2011, 07:47 PM
Tebow is trolling the NFL. I freakin love it!

kwayshauntay
12-04-2011, 11:34 PM
Tebow has a LONG way to go. He is having a great season, but he has to do this over multiple seasons before we know how succesful he can be.

Remember Mr. Wunderlic's first year? He was running all over the place passing poorly and the line his fans used was "he just wins." Fast forward a couple of years and suddenly Mr. Wunderlic was not nearly as good as people thought.

Broncos are 6-1 now, let's see how he does after a couple of years.

By all indications, Tebow has character, humility, and work ethic, three things that give him a good chance to keep improving and shore up his weaknesses over time.

Can you say the same about Vince? I'm honestly asking, as I don't keep up with Vince.

TexanSam
12-05-2011, 12:16 AM
http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/11652/11932181.jpg

Dutchrudder
12-05-2011, 12:42 AM
I really like watching Tebow, he's so unpredictable and just finds ways to win. Would love to see the Texans get a first round bye and host the Broncos at home for the playoffs.

The Pencil Neck
12-05-2011, 11:01 PM
I really like watching Tebow, he's so unpredictable and just finds ways to win. Would love to see the Texans get a first round bye and host the Broncos at home for the playoffs.

And then crush him.

b0ng
12-06-2011, 09:11 AM
Why is nobody talking about Willis McGahee finding the fountain of youth and running for multiple 100 yard games? That has just as much to do with Tebowmania as Tebow does.

Stemp
12-06-2011, 09:20 AM
http://memegenerator.net/cache/instances/400x/11/11652/11932181.jpg
:lol:

The Pencil Neck
12-06-2011, 09:48 AM
Why is nobody talking about Willis McGahee finding the fountain of youth and running for multiple 100 yard games? That has just as much to do with Tebowmania as Tebow does.

It's the Tebow-power raising McGahee from the dead and infusing him with new life. It's the Tebow-power rallying the defense. It's the Tebow power getting the special teams to be more special.

He's a leader. It's what he does. He makes everyone around him better. Including the coaches.

He just wins.

GlassHalfFull
12-06-2011, 09:53 AM
I hate to potentially derail the thread, but I had a thought Sunday while watching his post game interview and wanted to share it.

His first statement went something like, "I just want to thank my lord and savior Jesus Christ..........."

this is where he loses me, it seems to me a misuse of religion to credit Jesus for a win in football. Now I can see praying for no injuries, but the concept that Jesus cares about football is beyond me.

MojoMan
12-06-2011, 10:04 AM
I hate to potentially derail the thread, but I had a thought Sunday while watching his post game interview and wanted to share it.

His first statement went something like, "I just want to thank my lord and savior Jesus Christ..........."

this is where he loses me, it seems to me a misuse of religion to credit Jesus for a win in football. Now I can see praying for no injuries, but the concept that Jesus cares about football is beyond me.

Tebow is thanking God for granting him extraordinary favor and blessing, not only in terms of his God-given talent, but also in terms of the beneficial results, which certainly cannot be attributed solely to Tim Tebow by any means.

And it is only through Jesus Christ, who was God in the flesh, that Tim Tebow has access to God and a personal relationship with God at all. That is why he is thanking Jesus specifically here.

If you reject those beliefs, I am not here to dispute any of this with you. But this is where Tim Tebow is coming from here.

HTown2ATX
12-06-2011, 10:05 AM
I hate to potentially derail the thread, but I had a thought Sunday while watching his post game interview and wanted to share it.

His first statement went something like, "I just want to thank my lord and savior Jesus Christ..........."

this is where he loses me, it seems to me a misuse of religion to credit Jesus for a win in football. Now I can see praying for no injuries, but the concept that Jesus cares about football is beyond me.

Unless there is more to the quote, I think he is just thanking God, Jesus or whoever, for his abilities, not winnning a specific game, something tons of athletes not named Tebow do. I think this gets confused a lot and leads to a lot of the anti-Tebow sentiment.

:twocents:

I will say that while I think he has a lot to improve on, it is ridiculous how he gets criticized AND praised. That Defense is playing awesome as well us McGahee. But I can't deny the kid is just friggin winning and he should be given his due.

I wonder how bad Merril Hodge beat his kids for Tebow winning another game :thinking:

Hodge is turning himself into someone I can't even take seriously the way he just vehemently hates Tebow. You can almost see the spittle on his mouth and his hands shaking he is so pissed lol.

Dutchrudder
12-06-2011, 10:53 AM
Here's a video of the interview GHF was referring to:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-interviews/09000d5d824bf034/Tebow-We-had-to-lay-it-on-the-line

He thanks his teammates in the same sentence, so it does kinda seem like he considers Jesus a teammate or at least a factor in winning the game.

MojoMan
12-06-2011, 10:56 AM
Here's a video of the interview GHF was referring to:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-interviews/09000d5d824bf034/Tebow-We-had-to-lay-it-on-the-line

He thanks his teammates in the same sentence, so it does kinda seem like he considers Jesus a teammate or at least a factor in winning the game.

That's basically right. And if a reporter wanted to ask him about that, I would expect he would confirm it in no uncertain terms.

GlassHalfFull
12-06-2011, 11:00 AM
Here's a video of the interview GHF was referring to:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-player-interviews/09000d5d824bf034/Tebow-We-had-to-lay-it-on-the-line

He thanks his teammates in the same sentence, so it does kinda seem like he considers Jesus a teammate or at least a factor in winning the game.

Thanks Dutch, MSR. I looked for it, then something shiny popped up and I got distracted.

It came off that way to me, partly due to the question. And then his response. I just figure with all that is going on in the world, JC probably has better things to put on the top of his list than fueling a 2nd half Broncos win.

Texecutioner
12-06-2011, 11:09 AM
Tebow's faith has never bothered me. I just don't pay much attention to it. I don't see why it bothers anyone else and why it has to be such a talking point to criticize him by. He is just trying to be positive when he mentions Jesus Christ and there is no malice involved. Sure, it may be a little silly at times, but I don't see any problems from it.

Dutchrudder
12-06-2011, 11:10 AM
Thanks Dutch, MSR. I looked for it, then something shiny popped up and I got distracted.

It came off that way to me, partly due to the question. And then his response. I just figure with all that is going on in the world, JC probably has better things to put on the top of his list than fueling a 2nd half Broncos win.

I'm no Christian, but I think the easy answer is that god will use anything to work in his mysterious ways. So Tebow making a name for himself now will only boost his national and international notoriety and can give him greater influence over the masses thus making his evangelism more successful. So while the outcome of the game isn't the purpose, it is a useful tool for his means.

GuerillaBlack
12-06-2011, 11:12 AM
In the words of the NFL Gameday crew..."TEEEEBOW! WOAAAAAAAA!"

kwayshauntay
12-06-2011, 11:47 AM
I think some of you guys are misconstruing Tebow's intent when he makes reference to his religion.

In a recent postgame interview after a victory (I forget which game), I heard him say "I want to thank my lord and savior Jesus Christ whether it would have been a win or a loss, because without him blah blah blah."

From what I've seen in that and other interviews, his religious remarks come across as an expression of humility more than anything else, a way to ground himself when reporters ask him congratulatory, ego-inflating, post-victory questions.

Maybe it's just me, but that's what I get from reading his body language and facial expressions: Reporter asks him a question asking about a spectacular play he made to seal a crucial victory, and he tries to stifle an ecstatic grin. You can see him thinking, "Damn, yeah that play was awesome, wasn't it?!! Damn I'm awesome!" But then, he'll quickly catch himself by thanking his "lord and savior Jesus Christ blah blah blah" and the stifled grin is gone, replaced by an expression of solemn respect.

So no, I don't find it offensive when he does it. The way I see it, he does it to keep himself humble and to keep things in perspective.

So I'm fine with it, doesn't bother me. And this is coming from an atheist.

kwayshauntay
12-06-2011, 11:57 AM
Why is nobody talking about Willis McGahee finding the fountain of youth and running for multiple 100 yard games? That has just as much to do with Tebowmania as Tebow does.

Half of McGahee's 100 yard games came during the 1W-4L Orton era.

Just saying...

GlassHalfFull
12-06-2011, 02:19 PM
Now that I have successfully trashed the thread, I will try and clarify a bit my thoughts.

The first is that he is still a very young man and he seems like a sincere and earnest person. I have a son his age and I think that is something fans tend to forget, is just how young some of these guys are. He is getting an incredibly intense amount of media attention and seems to be handling it well.

I am even becoming a bit of a fan of his, so don't take my earlier criticism as too harsh. I just also see how he can be a bit of a lightning rod of hate for some people.

Please proceed with the regularly scheduled thread......

GlassHalfFull
12-06-2011, 02:25 PM
oops. double post. sorry

Texecutioner
12-06-2011, 03:08 PM
Why is nobody talking about Willis McGahee finding the fountain of youth and running for multiple 100 yard games? That has just as much to do with Tebowmania as Tebow does.

In at least 3 of Tebow's victories and maybe more he led his own team in rushing.

Hervoyel
12-07-2011, 12:55 PM
Tebow is thanking God for granting him extraordinary favor and blessing, not only in terms of his God-given talent, but also in terms of the beneficial results, which certainly cannot be attributed solely to Tim Tebow by any means.

And it is only through Jesus Christ, who was God in the flesh, that Tim Tebow has access to God and a personal relationship with God at all. That is why he is thanking Jesus specifically here.

If you reject those beliefs, I am not here to dispute any of this with you. But this is where Tim Tebow is coming from here.

So basically I read this as "Tim Tebow is coming from crazy town". Got it.

TexanSam
12-07-2011, 07:04 PM
ESPN mentions Tim Tebow 88 times in an hour. This is why I don't like him.

http://deadspin.com/5866144/every-tebow-uttered-on-espns-tebowcenter-today

GuerillaBlack
12-07-2011, 08:18 PM
ESPN mentions Tim Tebow 88 times in an hour. This is why I don't like him.

http://deadspin.com/5866144/every-tebow-uttered-on-espns-tebowcenter-today

Why are you blaming Tebow for that? Blame ESPN. They even had a Top Ten Tebow plays on Sports Center.

robroy72
12-07-2011, 08:47 PM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/c3/c346138c853987f1042c49b529450806/tim_tebow_is_tattooed_as_a_centaur_on_this_gentlem ans_arm.jpg

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tim-Tebow-is-tattooed-as-a-centaur-on-this-gentl?urn=nfl-wp13419

TexanSam
12-07-2011, 09:20 PM
Why are you blaming Tebow for that? Blame ESPN. They even had a Top Ten Tebow plays on Sports Center.

Don't question my logic!!!!

thunderkyss
12-07-2011, 09:20 PM
Why is nobody talking about Willis McGahee finding the fountain of youth and running for multiple 100 yard games? That has just as much to do with Tebowmania as Tebow does.

You're not getting it, that is Tebowmania

:kingkong:

HTown2ATX
12-08-2011, 07:36 AM
http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/editorial_image/c3/c346138c853987f1042c49b529450806/tim_tebow_is_tattooed_as_a_centaur_on_this_gentlem ans_arm.jpg

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Tim-Tebow-is-tattooed-as-a-centaur-on-this-gentl?urn=nfl-wp13419

wow........................:kubepalm:

Dutchrudder
12-08-2011, 09:28 AM
Why are you blaming Tebow for that? Blame ESPN. They even had a Top Ten Tebow plays on Sports Center.

Same reason everyone hates Favre.

Texecutioner
12-08-2011, 11:00 AM
Why are you blaming Tebow for that? Blame ESPN. They even had a Top Ten Tebow plays on Sports Center.

That is exactly what I have never understood about people at how they direct hate in the wrong directions, and they did the same thing with Favre. YOu're now seeing ESPN slop themselves over Tebow relentlessly to where they hardly ever talk about anything else. It's disgusting and pathetic that the biggest sports network in the world or at least in the USA does this. They find an athlete here and there and pump him religiously and forget about the entire sport, and then as a result everyone starts hating the guy they're promoting instead of the network itself. I'm sure that even Tebow is sick and tired of the non stop coverage of himself, but what can he do?? Direct the hate at the network that continually does this instead of the athlete that has nothing to do with it.

I've wanted a new sports network with big time cash to rise and compete with ESPN for years, but I've given up on that ever happening.

ziggy29
12-08-2011, 11:02 AM
That is exactly what I have never understood about people at how they direct hate in the wrong directions, and they did the same thing with Favre. YOu're now seeing ESPN slop themselves over Tebow relentlessly to where they hardly ever talk about anything else. It's disgusting and pathetic that the biggest sports network in the world or at least in the USA does this. They find an athlete here and there and pump him religiously and forget about the entire sport, and then as a result everyone starts hating the guy they're promoting instead of the network itself. I'm sure that even Tebow is sick and tired of the non stop coverage of himself, but what can he do?? Direct the hate at the network that continually does this instead of the athlete that has nothing to do with it.

I think you just hit on the difference between Tebow and Favre. Favre (and his ego) seemed to invite, even encourage, the media circus surrounding him.

Texecutioner
12-08-2011, 11:10 AM
I think you just hit on the difference between Tebow and Favre. Favre (and his ego) seemed to invite, even encourage, the media circus surrounding him.

No, that's not what happened at all. Favre had been covered religiously way before he was ever thought of as a diva and way before the retirement issues surfaced. He ended up getting more coverage and yeah, to some degree it seemed like he liked it towards the end, but he always got insane coverage. Tebow is just now getting all of this insane coverage as well so it's all new to him. And ESPN has done this with a lot of other athletes as well where it really pissed people off. When Vick's dog scandal happened, that was the worst ever. They literally shut that entire network down for like a month and it just became "Vick watch." Bonds had some insane coverage as well. ESPN builds up athletes and ultimately breaks them down to where people can't even stand the site of them.

GlassHalfFull
12-08-2011, 11:28 AM
That is exactly what I have never understood about people at how they direct hate in the wrong directions, and they did the same thing with Favre. YOu're now seeing ESPN slop themselves over Tebow relentlessly to where they hardly ever talk about anything else. It's disgusting and pathetic that the biggest sports network in the world or at least in the USA does this. They find an athlete here and there and pump him religiously and forget about the entire sport, and then as a result everyone starts hating the guy they're promoting instead of the network itself. I'm sure that even Tebow is sick and tired of the non stop coverage of himself, but what can he do?? Direct the hate at the network that continually does this instead of the athlete that has nothing to do with it.

I've wanted a new sports network with big time cash to rise and compete with ESPN for years, but I've given up on that ever happening.

It is like when the wife gets mad at the mistress instead of the husband.

This winning crap is bad, I have been agreeing with Tex too much lately. :kitten:

Texecutioner
12-08-2011, 11:31 AM
It is like when the wife gets mad at the mistress instead of the husband.

This winning crap is bad, I have been agreeing with Tex too much lately. :kitten:

You're coming around. :winky:

Hardcore Texan
12-16-2011, 11:59 AM
The Broncos fight song is, "What If God Was One of Us."

Double Barrel
12-16-2011, 12:05 PM
I gotta' be honest, I don't hate/dislike Tim Tebow, but damn if I'm not completely burned out of hearing the word "Tebow" over and over and over and over and over ad naseum.

I'm starting to root against the Broncos just so the media will STFU about him. He's getting way too much gloss and I just can't take the hype.

I know it's not his fault, but still, the overwhelming blather has just burned me out already.

GlassHalfFull
12-16-2011, 12:18 PM
NFL Network is now floating the idea that Tebow should be in the player of the year talks. :vomit:

Prayer of the year - maybe
Player of the year - not so much

Texecutioner
12-16-2011, 12:44 PM
I gotta' be honest, I don't hate/dislike Tim Tebow, but damn if I'm not completely burned out of hearing the word "Tebow" over and over and over and over and over ad naseum.

I'm starting to root against the Broncos just so the media will STFU about him. He's getting way too much gloss and I just can't take the hype.

I know it's not his fault, but still, the overwhelming blather has just burned me out already.

That's how I'm starting to get. It's outragious at this point. ESPN First Take literally transformed their entire show into debating Tim Tebow for 2 hours every morning. Every other show has to debate those same topics over and over with other people. The Texans don't even get mentioned and neither do the 49ers. The only teams that get a little coverage still are the Ravens, Steelers, Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, and the Pats. Tim Tebow's hype has literally ruined the season as far as coverage goes on ESPN. I hate ESPN and have for so long now. I wish another big time sports network could just take over or compete with them, so I'd have another alternative. I watch NFL network a lot to, but I hate most of the guys on there. Any show with Irvin and Deion is hard to watch for over 20 minutes, and then Mooch is just so boring to me on there as well. The only real football coverage I can get is through the internet.

Playoffs
12-16-2011, 12:48 PM
It's a great, great story...

That one man who was roundly dismissed by most every "expert"...

Can, in spite of his often awkward play, inspire his teammates to play at times above their measures...

And together rack up the only important statistic in sports -- wins.



A great story...

That is being over-covered and ruined by media bandwaggoners trying to ride his coattails to personal gain.

There are a lot of good stories in the NFL this year that are being mostly over-looked,

And there is already a building resentment that will unfortunately land at the feet of Tebow, who is just trying to win games.

That's a shame, on all accounts.

/soapbox

Double Barrel
12-16-2011, 02:57 PM
That's how I'm starting to get. It's outragious at this point. ESPN First Take literally transformed their entire show into debating Tim Tebow for 2 hours every morning. Every other show has to debate those same topics over and over with other people. The Texans don't even get mentioned and neither do the 49ers. The only teams that get a little coverage still are the Ravens, Steelers, Cowboys, Eagles, Giants, and the Pats. Tim Tebow's hype has literally ruined the season as far as coverage goes on ESPN. I hate ESPN and have for so long now. I wish another big time sports network could just take over or compete with them, so I'd have another alternative. I watch NFL network a lot to, but I hate most of the guys on there. Any show with Irvin and Deion is hard to watch for over 20 minutes, and then Mooch is just so boring to me on there as well. The only real football coverage I can get is through the internet.

Can you even begin to imagine the avalanche of hype if the Broncos make the playoffs??

According to the media, you'd think Tebow is playing both sides of the ball and willing his team to win all by his lonesome. Sometimes you'll hear a small voice mention the defense, but now they are doing that Tebow chant on NFLN that sounds like the dwarfs on Snow White. It's goofy. It's like they no longer have Favre to overhype, so now they have found their replacement in Timmy.

yeah, great story, but it completely loses it's appeal after the 5000th time you've heard it and the amount of credit he's getting is not objective in any sort of way.

Hookem Horns
12-16-2011, 03:47 PM
It doesn't bother me much. Actually I think the whole thing is hilarious. What's funny is how all of the VY jock riders are hating him too yet they always used the same pro-Tebow arguments to defend VY. "He just wins ... blah blah blah".

I hope you guys get a lot more sick hearing about Tebow next week because if the Broncos beat the Pats it's going to go from over the top to insane and the Texans need that to happen

Texecutioner
12-16-2011, 04:15 PM
It doesn't bother me much. Actually I think the whole thing is hilarious. What's funny is how all of the VY jock riders are hating him too yet they always used the same pro-Tebow arguments to defend VY. "He just wins ... blah blah blah".

I hope you guys get a lot more sick hearing about Tebow next week because if the Broncos beat the Pats it's going to go from over the top to insane and the Texans need that to happen

Why would you want and encourage the media to completely ignore the rest of the league just to over hype some dude that isn't even in the upper half of the league at this position? I don't see how anyone would even want their own favorite player to have that happen. It's like you want to stick it to us fans or something.

And for the record I've always been a die hard VY fan and I'm also a huge Tebow fan, but why should I have to suffer to hear the non stop Tebow crap from ESPN and other media outlets?? I'm an NFL fan first and foremost even before I'm a Texans fan.

Texecutioner
12-16-2011, 04:21 PM
Can you even begin to imagine the avalanche of hype if the Broncos make the playoffs??

They're going to make the playoffs, and we might actually play them.

According to the media, you'd think Tebow is playing both sides of the ball and willing his team to win all by his lonesome. Sometimes you'll hear a small voice mention the defense, but now they are doing that Tebow chant on NFLN that sounds like the dwarfs on Snow White. It's goofy. It's like they no longer have Favre to overhype, so now they have found their replacement in Timmy.

Favre was never over hyped. He is one of the greatest players to play any position in the NFL despite how many people hate him and want to try and state otherwise. Favre at least was one of the greatest of all time, but yeah it was sickening the way that the media wouldn't stop talking about him. It was the stupid fans that "allowed" themselves to hate Favre because of what the media created though and now they're getting even worse with it with Tebow.

yeah, great story, but it completely loses it's appeal after the 5000th time you've heard it and the amount of credit he's getting is not objective in any sort of way.

Try not to let it get ruined. I hear exactly what you're saying big dog, but it's not Tebow's fault. Every week I do look forward to the 4th quarter of his games, and I've had a blast watching these comebacks every week. Just try to change the channel when they start talking about Tebow on a program or something, but he is still fun to watch for me.

Double Barrel
12-16-2011, 04:39 PM
They're going to make the playoffs, and we might actually play them.

I actually hope we see the Broncos in the playoffs. For all his comeback abilities, I do not think he's faced a defense like Damage, Inc., yet.

Favre was never over hyped. He is one of the greatest players to play any position in the NFL despite how many people hate him and want to try and state otherwise. Favre at least was one of the greatest of all time, but yeah it was sickening the way that the media wouldn't stop talking about him. It was the stupid fans that "allowed" themselves to hate Favre because of what the media created though and now they're getting even worse with it with Tebow.

yeah, I did not mean that Favre was overhyped on ability, as I've got the utmost respect for the guy's career. It was the constant hype about his returns every year that just got old. Instead of talking about other teams, they'd waste entire segments on his return.

Try not to let it get ruined. I hear exactly what you're saying big dog, but it's not Tebow's fault. Every week I do look forward to the 4th quarter of his games, and I've had a blast watching these comebacks every week. Just try to change the channel when they start talking about Tebow on a program or something, but he is still fun to watch for me.

Like I said, I do not dislike Tebow, and I don't even think he puts his faith in our faces the way the media portrays it. It's just the blathering from the talking heads that gets old, which is one of the only reasons that I would root against him in order to make them shut up about it.

I think Tebow won't last long, though. His style of play is too dependent on 1) strong defense, 2) his running ability, 3) opposing defenses not preparing for the option.

Once a team gets 2-3 TDs ahead and forces the game on Tebow's arm, I think he will struggle. And he can run now, while he's young, but we all understand the physical toll that this game takes on players. And defenses will figure his game out over time. They always do, and if you're a one trick pony, it will not be long before they've got your number.

Hardcore Texan
12-16-2011, 05:09 PM
They're going to make the playoffs, and we might actually play them.



Favre was never over hyped. He is one of the greatest players to play any position in the NFL despite how many people hate him and want to try and state otherwise. Favre at least was one of the greatest of all time, but yeah it was sickening the way that the media wouldn't stop talking about him. It was the stupid fans that "allowed" themselves to hate Favre because of what the media created though and now they're getting even worse with it with Tebow.


Try not to let it get ruined. I hear exactly what you're saying big dog, but it's not Tebow's fault. Every week I do look forward to the 4th quarter of his games, and I've had a blast watching these comebacks every week. Just try to change the channel when they start talking about Tebow on a program or something, but he is still fun to watch for me.

Meh. He was more famous for his gunslinger mentality than anything. A couple of heroic performances that were outstanding and an amazing consectutive start streak. He's was tough, gunslinging QB and that's it. He only won 1 superbowl and literally threw away chances at more, at times being his own worst enemy. He threw just as many picks as he did touchdowns, to me that doesn't warrant all the hype he got. He got that hype for his start streak, his fearless gunslinger attitude, and he played the game with a lot of heart. Kind of had a common man feel to him, and I think alot of people could relate. Not sure he would make my top 10 of greatest all time QB's.

djohn2oo8
12-16-2011, 05:27 PM
I hate how ESPN first take dedicated their entire show this morning to Tebow and Skip, who I loathe.

gg no re
12-16-2011, 05:53 PM
After watching Tebow being mic'd up, and after many viewings of Team Four Star dubs of DBZ, I have to say that if you hate Tebow, you hate Goku, and that makes you hate Christmas, and nobody hates Christmas.

TexanSam
12-16-2011, 06:42 PM
I hate the Patriots but I hope they blow out the Broncos. I'm tired of hearing about Tebow EVERY SINGLE TIME I turn on ESPN. I hope he throws 5 INTs. I hope he fumbles the ball 10 times. I hope he makes David Carr look like a Pro Bowler just so ESPN will stop hyping him up so much.

thunderkyss
12-16-2011, 07:08 PM
Can you even begin to imagine the avalanche of hype if the Broncos make the playoffs??

According to the media, you'd think Tebow is playing both sides of the ball and willing his team to win all by his lonesome. Sometimes you'll hear a small voice mention the defense, but now they are doing that Tebow chant on NFLN that sounds like the dwarfs on Snow White. It's goofy. It's like they no longer have Favre to overhype, so now they have found their replacement in Timmy.

yeah, great story, but it completely loses it's appeal after the 5000th time you've heard it and the amount of credit he's getting is not objective in any sort of way.

I'm loving all the TebowMania.... & I'm loving how upset it's making people. Especially the "Tebow don't play defense" crowd. That defense is the main reason they are winning. I know that, everyone should know that. But that defense didn't win them but 1 game before Tebow started playing.

Not that Tebow is that great, he's just not as bad as Orton. He's not putting his defense in bad situations & that running game is keeping the other offense off the field.

Sounds kinda familiar.

I'm really interested to see what the Broncos will do next season. If I'm Elway/Fox, I continue to build a defense of historical proportions & the biggest baddest OL you've ever seen. Then I wait, accumulate draft picks & other capital until I see that QB of the future.

Don't force it like most teams do, & ride TebowMania as long as the fans allow.

thunderkyss
12-16-2011, 07:14 PM
Why would you want and encourage the media to completely ignore the rest of the league just to over hype some dude that isn't even in the upper half of the league at this position? I don't see how anyone would even want their own favorite player to have that happen. It's like you want to stick it to us fans or something.

And for the record I've always been a die hard VY fan and I'm also a huge Tebow fan, but why should I have to suffer to hear the non stop Tebow crap from ESPN and other media outlets?? I'm an NFL fan first and foremost even before I'm a Texans fan.

1) I never gave a **** about the media to begin with.

2) It's amazing to find out what people really find important. Winning, or how you do it. I don't give a **** if they call Tebow the offensive coordinator, if he's winning I'm watching.

thunderkyss
12-16-2011, 07:24 PM
I hate the Patriots but I hope they blow out the Broncos. I'm tired of hearing about Tebow EVERY SINGLE TIME I turn on ESPN. I hope he throws 5 INTs. I hope he fumbles the ball 10 times. I hope he makes David Carr look like a Pro Bowler just so ESPN will stop hyping him up so much.

The Broncos win helps us in positioning for the #1 Seed. Don't let whatever it is you have against TebowMania hurt the Texans

:texan:

Check out how this guy's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_mDTLphIVY) career started & compare it to Tebow's

Hervoyel
12-17-2011, 12:30 AM
I gotta' be honest, I don't hate/dislike Tim Tebow, but damn if I'm not completely burned out of hearing the word "Tebow" over and over and over and over and over ad naseum.

I'm starting to root against the Broncos just so the media will STFU about him. He's getting way too much gloss and I just can't take the hype.

I know it's not his fault, but still, the overwhelming blather has just burned me out already.


I want him to lose as well just to be spared from the constant barrage of Tebow news.

Of course I want him to lose after this week. I need those Patriots to pick up another loss so I'm hoping "crazy town" works for him one more week.

Then please, let it stop.

Just thought, What would it be like if Tebow won a Super Bowl this year with the Broncos? It would never end. That's..... terrifying to contemplate.

kwayshauntay
12-17-2011, 12:51 AM
Just thought, What would it be like if Tebow won a Super Bowl this year with the Broncos? It would never end. That's..... terrifying to contemplate.

The head of every NFL "expert" would simultaneously explode.

T'would be grand, that.

:neener:

Hookem Horns
12-17-2011, 12:54 AM
Why would you want and encourage the media to completely ignore the rest of the league just to over hype some dude that isn't even in the upper half of the league at this position? I don't see how anyone would even want their own favorite player to have that happen. It's like you want to stick it to us fans or something.

And for the record I've always been a die hard VY fan and I'm also a huge Tebow fan, but why should I have to suffer to hear the non stop Tebow crap from ESPN and other media outlets?? I'm an NFL fan first and foremost even before I'm a Texans fan.

Then you should be thinking like me. The main reason I want this to get even crazier this week is because if Tebow wins it helps the Texans. The Pats need to lose as do the Ravens. I am just saying here don't let your hate of Tebow or media annoyance get in the way at what is best for the Texans.

burro
12-17-2011, 11:20 AM
I think what pisses a lot of people off about Tebow is that he is shattering the myth that you need a QB with amazing tangibles to win football games. On paper, Tebow is an awful QB who should have been laughed out of town last season...but here he is at 6-1 as a starter, having started a national sensation. In other words, I think it's a good deal of jealously. "If Tebow can do it, why can't [insert sub-par QB] do it for the [insert equally sub-par football team]?"

Texan4Ever
12-21-2011, 12:01 PM
I found this hilarious: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMK9FKMG3Nc&feature=player_embedded#!

Texecutioner
12-21-2011, 12:17 PM
Then you should be thinking like me. The main reason I want this to get even crazier this week is because if Tebow wins it helps the Texans. The Pats need to lose as do the Ravens. I am just saying here don't let your hate of Tebow or media annoyance get in the way at what is best for the Texans.

As I said before I don't hate Tebow. I'm a pretty big fan of Tebow. I like him as a person and I love watching him as a player. It's not fair what the media does and when I say the media I mainly mean ESPN. Let's face it ESPN has a monopoly in the sports media and as fans we're pretty much forced to watch that network at times, because games are on there, and it's on 24/7 and is the main network where players and coaches and teams are being discussed. That's not happening this season though. They've taken this entire season now and made it all about Tebow. It's not even fair to Tim Tebow, because it's making irrational fans hate the guy. It's making fans get annoyed with his Christian values even though Tebow doesn't push that on anyone, but ESPN won't stop talking about it and making it an issue that people don't want to hear about, so naturally they blame Tebow for that unfortunately.

The Texans can get their seed as long as they win out. They ended up losing and giving the Pats the upper hand now and the Pats have two home games now against poor teams in their division. After the Texans I root for the Patriots as well. That's my second favorite team and the only time I'd ever root against them is if they're playing the Texans.

Texecutioner
12-21-2011, 12:21 PM
I think what pisses a lot of people off about Tebow is that he is shattering the myth that you need a QB with amazing tangibles to win football games. On paper, Tebow is an awful QB who should have been laughed out of town last season...but here he is at 6-1 as a starter, having started a national sensation. In other words, I think it's a good deal of jealously. "If Tebow can do it, why can't [insert sub-par QB] do it for the [insert equally sub-par football team]?"

Tebow is not shattering that myth. QB's like him will always struggle in this league and have problems. Tebow hasn't had long term success yet either, and eventually I think this little run of his is going to end unless the Broncs keep a top 3 defense around him for years and he improves as a passer a lot. If Tebow does end up being a long term winner in the NFL, he'll just be one huge exception to the stigma of what won't work in the NFL. He won't be an example of something that other teams can follow or what other guys can do. Teams may try it out with other guys, but just like in the past the QB's who run all the time and aren't good passers will fail. I'm honestly shocked that Tebow hasn't gotten injured yet with those hits he keeps taking. He's going to get a serious injury pretty soon as the law of averages catches up with him.

thunderkyss
12-21-2011, 03:30 PM
I think Tebow is the epitome of QB's getting too much credit for wins & too much blame for losses.