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Texcore
12-01-2011, 09:49 PM
CORPUS CHRISTI — At 8-3, the Houston Texans are having the best season in franchise history – by miles.

Number 1 in defense, Number 3 in rushing, Number 1 in the AFC South, and tied for Number 1 in the AFC. Oh, and they’re currently riding a five-game winning streak.

The Texans are finally one of the best teams in the football and yet, we’re all feeling doomed because in two consecutive games, both road wins, the Texans have lost QB Matt Schaub and second-string QB Matt Leinart to season-ending injuries. As far as success stories gone horribly wrong go, the Texans have cornered the market on ironic twists of fortune. This would be like if Rudy Ruettiger never went back to practice after initially quitting because he didn’t make the final gameday roster. In this movie, nobody remembers the Titans because once Gerry Bertier got whacked, the Titans lost the next game – got creamed actually – and Herman Boone was swiftly fired. If this was Zombieland, and the Texans were a zombie, this would qualify as a double-tap.

When the season started, the Texans had Matt Schaub, Matt Leinart and T.J. Yates in their QB depth chart. As of today, that depth chart now has T.J. Yates, Kellen Clemens and Jake Delhomme. I can’t even quantify how depressing that is. First, the Texans lose Schaub to an injury that he played an entire half with, not thinking it was anything big, and then finds out its season-ending a day later. Then, the Texans get us all used to Matt Leinart and convince us he’ll be fine. Then his collarbone breaks a quarter and a half into his tenure and just like that – T.J. Yates is a starting quarterback in the NFL. All it took was a mini-apocalypse.

The sheer audacity of the situation is stupefying. But what’s even more stupefying is finding a reason to hope. Look, for a moment, we had visions of a Super Bowl berth in February. For a fleeting few minutes, the entire NFL nation started to wonder, “Can they actually get to Indy?” and then just like that, in the blink of an eye, Matt Schaub was lost and that was really the nail in the coffin. Matt Leinart may have played well and won some games, but our expectations and hopes were already tempered from playoff success to just getting there. With five games left and the Texans holding a two-game lead in the division along with the tie-breaker with second-place Tennessee, it’s not at all out of the question that Houston still wins the AFC South, but it’ll be a lot harder than we thought it would be.

In steps T.J. Yates, a fifth-round pick out of North Carolina in 2011. It’s a safe bet to assume that Yates probably never thought he’d see the field this year.

Catching the eye of Gary Kubiak and not many others during the NFL Combine, Yates was drafted because he displayed the things that Kubiak values most: leadership, poise and ability. When UNC handed out suspensions to what seemed like every significant player on the roster in 2010, it was Yates who kept things rolling, picking up the slack, tossing for more yards and more touchdowns then he ever had before. In fact, Yates is record-holder for every significant passing record in terms of yards and completions, single-game, season and career; in the history of UNC football (He holds 37 records in all).

While that may not be as heavy a statement as it would be for someone from, say, Stanford or Florida, it’s still a nice stat to have. Throughout his career at UNC, Yates never let adversity get him down. After regressing his junior year and being pelted with boos from his home crowd, Yates threw for a school-record 3,418 yards and completed nearly 67 percent of his passes, leading the Tar Heels to an 8-5 record and a win over Tennessee in the Music City Bowl.

One of the best traits Yates brings with him is an ability to run Houston’s bootleg-heavy offense, which is what Yates ran under Butch Davis at UNC. If Houston is going to succeed beyond this mini QB apocalypse, they need a guy who can make throws and avoid critical mistakes. By all accounts, Yates is far more suited than Leinart ever was. What he lacks is experience, which he’ll get in bucket loads starting Sunday against Atlanta. The importance of these next two games cannot be stressed enough – a split against 7-4 Atlanta and 7-4 Cincinnati would all but doom the Tennessee Titans given Houston’s remaining schedule (3-8 Carolina, at 0-11 Indy, 6-5 Tennessee). The last thing the Texans, or Yates, would want is a week 17 showdown for the whole enchilada against Tennessee.

Really, we don’t know what we’re going to get over time with Yates at the helm. Is he another massive success story waiting to happen? Given the kind of luck Houston is having at QB this season, it would seem unlikely. But the Texans are also 8-3, and with all the adversity this team has had to overcome, losing every significant star it seems at one point or another, a couple for the season, it would behoove those who truly feel doomed to take a step back and simply let things unravel. The Texans have had every excuse in the world and every excuse in other, far-away galaxies to pack it in, to make legitimate excuses and collapse on into themselves. But so far, they just keep winning. That may very well end this Sunday against Atlanta, it almost certainly will, but that could still mean little to the Texans in the long run. If they beat Cincy, Carolina and Indy, they’re still staring at 11 wins.

Perhaps those Super Bowl dreams will have to wait another year, but that doesn’t mean the season’s over. There’s still lots to do and lots to accomplish. It may be with a heavy heart or a full stocking, but we have to put our trust in T.J. Yates. It’s all or nothing now. Just when winning was starting to get boring.

NO FAVRE

People really are fickle. The moment Matt Leinart went down last week, everyone’s minds immediately shifted to Brett Favre, wondering if he was interested. As if the guy is sitting in Mississippi in his Bat Cave, waiting for the Bat Signal to light up. BTW – I had a funny vision of what Favre’s Bat Signal would be. It involves his cell phone. Nevermind…

Last I checked, Brett Favre was not only terrible last season, he was also officially older than four planets in our solar system. The last thing the Texans need is a circus covering every move a senior citizen makes while they try to piece together 3 more wins to lock up the AFC South. For a team that’s been playing like the true definition of the word, Favre isn’t even close to a viable option. It makes no sense and to hear so-called “experts” call for it really drives my opinion of them down. Way down.

My buddy, Gordo did have a good question today: “How long will people still call for Favre to come play for them? 5 years? 10 years? Post-mortem?”

I do like the signing of Jake Delhomme, if only because of his experience and locker room effect. Anything beyond that, like actually playing or anything like that would not be alright with me. Same goes for Kellen Clemens. Oh boy…

Texcore
12-01-2011, 09:51 PM
I think the media really misses Favre and would love to see us sign him. NOT HAPPENING. I just wish they would get over it already...tired of hearing about him.

The Yates era begins......

BullNation4Life
12-01-2011, 11:21 PM
I think the media really misses Favre and would love to see us sign him. NOT HAPPENING. I just wish they would get over it already...tired of hearing about him.

The Yates era begins......

The Funny thing is the media and other fans were screaming, "I wish Favre would just go away!" and now that is is gone, he is the first name out of peoples mouth when a QB goes down?

WTF is that all about.

Playoffs
12-01-2011, 11:29 PM
http://www.caller.com/news/2011/dec/01/do-texans-spell-playoffs-y--t-e-s-or-f--v-r-e/

TexansBull
12-01-2011, 11:36 PM
Texans spell playoffs with d-e-f-e-n-s-e.

TexansFanatic
12-01-2011, 11:42 PM
The Funny thing is the media and other fans were screaming, "I wish Favre would just go away!" and now that is is gone, he is the first name out of peoples mouth when a QB goes down?

WTF is that all about.

It's the same with everyone in the spotlight.

Writers, pundits, talking heads, media members love building people up and then tearing them down.

Rinse and repeat.

Vinny
12-02-2011, 01:25 AM
Roger Staubach spells it R O L A I D S (http://youtu.be/Bgw-oOzZNCU)

ObsiWan
12-02-2011, 01:32 AM
The Funny thing is the media and other fans were screaming, "I wish Favre would just go away!" and now that is is gone, he is the first name out of peoples mouth when a QB goes down?

WTF is that all about.

It's the same with everyone in the spotlight.

Writers, pundits, talking heads, media members love building people up and then tearing them down.

Rinse and repeat.

That's the lazy journalist's (and I use the term loosely) way to do things. Why do any research to see what kind of background and skills young Yates brings to the table when they can toss out the name Favre and the talkshow phones will light up?

brakos82
12-02-2011, 01:37 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-8dytUtjlQ

Norg
12-02-2011, 02:06 AM
Maybe Kellems or JAKE or maybe even SAGE

House of Pain
12-02-2011, 02:06 AM
I thought the Texans spell playoffs "run-the-ball-30-times"

eriadoc
12-02-2011, 03:26 AM
I guess I'm one of the few who actually thinks Yates is going to really surprise people with this ability.

Grams
12-02-2011, 08:47 AM
I guess I'm one of the few who actually thinks Yates is going to really surprise people with this ability.

Count me as one of the few also!

TJ to AJ - winner!!!!!

spurstexanstros
12-02-2011, 12:32 PM
Count me as one of the few also!

TJ to AJ - winner!!!!!
I agree 100%
plus

Ever since spell check was invented i canet realli spell anythang

infantrycak
12-02-2011, 12:33 PM
CORPUS CHRISTI — At 8-3, the Houston Texans are having the best season in franchise history – by miles.

If you are copying and pasting from articles please provide only an excerpt rather than the entire article and provide a link to the source. Thanks.

Texan_Bill
12-02-2011, 12:34 PM
The Funny thing is the media and other fans were screaming, "I wish Favre would just go away!" and now that is is gone, he is the first name out of peoples mouth when a QB goes down?

WTF is that all about.

Believe me when I tell you, Favre NEVER entered my mind. Let him stay retired and sexting dong shots.

drs23
12-02-2011, 01:05 PM
I guess I'm one of the few who actually thinks Yates is going to really surprise people with this ability.

One of the few here as well. I stated early on that Yates was going to surprise some folks and my stance hasn't changed. I'm not automatically writing an L in the column against Atlanta either. If he and the team can win one, they can run the table. JMO of course.

ziggy29
12-02-2011, 02:15 PM
Believe me when I tell you, Favre NEVER entered my mind. Let him stay retired and sexting dong shots.

I don't even think you bother contacting him. I think Kubiak et al have made it very clear that any veteran signed would initially be a backup as "insurance" in case Yates is injured or ineffective.

Can you imagine Favre and his ego willingly signing up to hold a clipboard on the sidelines for ANYONE, let alone a rookie? Does anyone really think he'd ever consider a gig where he wasn't immediately anointed as the starter? For that reason alone, IMO, there was no reason to even consider calling him if you know he's going to join the team as a backup.

All in on TJ at this point.

eli
12-02-2011, 05:20 PM
Been lurking here for a really long time and this article just made me laugh. I had to sign up just to say what a terrible article. For anyone to think the Texans have a better shot at winning a superbowl with a 5th round rookie who has only played 2 quarters over a proven vet is laughable. This whole "bringing the circus to town" is dumb, people said that exact same thing when Favre signed with the Vikings and he had his best season of his career and led them to a game of the superbowl. The Vikings now have the worst starting record they have ever had because they are a terrible team with no o line, no WR 1, and a hurt defense, not because Favre ruined their team.

As a long time Texan fan, we would be lucky to have gotten Favre out of retirement because regardless of what anybody thinks about him, he gives this team the best chance of making it deep into the playoffs.

And you guys keep on saying defense, the only 3 teams Texans played that have had a offense has beat us. We are lucky the schedule has been fairly easy. I highly doubt the defense can keep up with a rematch of Saints or a team like Pats, GB, with a rookie QB.

Thorn
12-02-2011, 06:07 PM
Been lurking here for a really long time and this article just made me laugh. I had to sign up just to say what a terrible article. For anyone to think the Texans have a better shot at winning a superbowl with a 5th round rookie who has only played 2 quarters over a proven vet is laughable. This whole "bringing the circus to town" is dumb, people said that exact same thing when Favre signed with the Vikings and he had his best season of his career and led them to a game of the superbowl. The Vikings now have the worst starting record they have ever had because they are a terrible team with no o line, no WR 1, and a hurt defense, not because Favre ruined their team.

As a long time Texan fan, we would be lucky to have gotten Favre out of retirement because regardless of what anybody thinks about him, he gives this team the best chance of making it deep into the playoffs.

And you guys keep on saying defense, the only 3 teams Texans played that have had a offense has beat us. We are lucky the schedule has been fairly easy. I highly doubt the defense can keep up with a rematch of Saints or a team like Pats, GB, with a rookie QB.

I disagree on Farve. He's old and an interception machine. Screw that. Yates may or may not be the answer, but Farve for sure isn't. The NFL season is winding down, and good unsigned QBs aren't there. They aren't. If they were, they wouldn't be avaliable for gods sakes.

Yates is a 5th round rookie QB, and on the surface, this doesn't look very good. But Yates, who's been in our system for this season and understands the playbook, is still a better choice than Farve. If Farve is so frigging hot, he wouldn't be avaliable.

We'll be in the playoffs this year. How long we last in them is undetermined as yet. But I'd rather go with Yates than Farve.

Ofcourse, you are always welcome to check back with me after this Sunday to see if I've changed my mind. LOL

EllisUnit
12-02-2011, 06:08 PM
Been lurking here for a really long time and this article just made me laugh. I had to sign up just to say what a terrible article. For anyone to think the Texans have a better shot at winning a superbowl with a 5th round rookie who has only played 2 quarters over a proven vet is laughable. This whole "bringing the circus to town" is dumb, people said that exact same thing when Favre signed with the Vikings and he had his best season of his career and led them to a game of the superbowl. The Vikings now have the worst starting record they have ever had because they are a terrible team with no o line, no WR 1, and a hurt defense, not because Favre ruined their team.

As a long time Texan fan, we would be lucky to have gotten Favre out of retirement because regardless of what anybody thinks about him, he gives this team the best chance of making it deep into the playoffs.

And you guys keep on saying defense, the only 3 teams Texans played that have had a offense has beat us. We are lucky the schedule has been fairly easy. I highly doubt the defense can keep up with a rematch of Saints or a team like Pats, GB, with a rookie QB.

Favres agent never quits, ya gotta give it to the guy :fingergun:

eli
12-02-2011, 06:47 PM
I'm just preparing myself for more disappointment. It's not often a team has a shot to win it all. They will be good next year barring more injuries but I just truly believe a Vet like Favre is a much better option than a rookie QB. Don't really see how that can even be argued at this point considering we've seen 2 quarters of play.

And seriously, Texans went and signed Delehomme...please don't tell me we'll be fine with him, his TD to INT ratio is worse than Favre, he isn't even a good game manager.

TexansBull
12-02-2011, 06:47 PM
I guess I'm one of the few who actually thinks Yates is going to really surprise people with this ability.

I am all in as well. I am debating though if I should make Yates' #13 jerseys out of blue tshirts for me and wife.:hmmm:

Double Barrel
12-02-2011, 06:58 PM
I guess I'm one of the few who actually thinks Yates is going to really surprise people with this ability.

Count me in, as well, if I had to choose one or the other (good vs. bad).

Maybe I've morphed into koolaid drinker (not that there's anything wrong with that) with this 8-3, first seed in the AFC talk.

But, I've stated before, I'm all in with optimistic hope until proven otherwise.

Been lurking here for a really long time and this article just made me laugh. I had to sign up just to say what a terrible article. For anyone to think the Texans have a better shot at winning a superbowl with a 5th round rookie who has only played 2 quarters over a proven vet is laughable. This whole "bringing the circus to town" is dumb, people said that exact same thing when Favre signed with the Vikings and he had his best season of his career and led them to a game of the superbowl. The Vikings now have the worst starting record they have ever had because they are a terrible team with no o line, no WR 1, and a hurt defense, not because Favre ruined their team.

As a long time Texan fan, we would be lucky to have gotten Favre out of retirement because regardless of what anybody thinks about him, he gives this team the best chance of making it deep into the playoffs.

And you guys keep on saying defense, the only 3 teams Texans played that have had a offense has beat us. We are lucky the schedule has been fairly easy. I highly doubt the defense can keep up with a rematch of Saints or a team like Pats, GB, with a rookie QB.

The NFL Network has reported that he's not at all interested in returning to the NFL.

drs23
12-02-2011, 07:54 PM
Been lurking here for a really long time and this article just made me laugh. I had to sign up just to say what a terrible article. For anyone to think the Texans have a better shot at winning a superbowl with a 5th round rookie who has only played 2 quarters over a proven vet is laughable. This whole "bringing the circus to town" is dumb, people said that exact same thing when Favre signed with the Vikings and he had his best season of his career and led them to a game of the superbowl. The Vikings now have the worst starting record they have ever had because they are a terrible team with no o line, no WR 1, and a hurt defense, not because Favre ruined their team.

As a long time Texan fan, we would be lucky to have gotten Favre out of retirement because regardless of what anybody thinks about him, he gives this team the best chance of making it deep into the playoffs.

And you guys keep on saying defense, the only 3 teams Texans played that have had a offense has beat us. We are lucky the schedule has been fairly easy. I highly doubt the defense can keep up with a rematch of Saints or a team like Pats, GB, with a rookie QB.

And thank you for your support.

"As a long time Texan fan" glad you could finally make it over here. Great MB.

Oh, and welcome to the Wagon. :D

eli
12-02-2011, 08:15 PM
Yeah I didn't want my first post to seem negative cause I truly am I big Texans fan. I just really thought this could be a superbowl year and I truly don't see it with a rookie QB or Delehomme. As for what NFL Network has reported, I think if someone tried hard enough especially a team sitting as pretty as the Texans, he would give it one last chance. That is all.