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Texanator
11-30-2011, 10:43 AM
I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

Vinny
11-30-2011, 11:01 AM
I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

ya think that perhaps he had what amounts to 3rd string QB's throwing to him? Kubiak doesn't make Leinart check down pards. I didn't notice any lack of hustle from Andre either. Unless you were in Jacksonville, how did you see his routes? I don't get that TV feed at my house.

DeMarCushPoll
11-30-2011, 11:04 AM
I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

AJ, "haphazard attempts at mediocrity" ??? Yeah I don't think so... moving on!

ziggy29
11-30-2011, 11:06 AM
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.
I guess I'd simply counter by saying that Kubiak wasn't really even *trying* to fool anyone on the Jax defense, especially in the second half. He really made no pretense of going downfield, did nothing to make the defense think they were going to ever go stretch the field, and didn't seem to care if the Jags knew it. He was "all in" on his defense holding the lead. The players simply reflected that on offense. AJ (or anyone else) won't "fool the defense" if the defense knows it's going to be a run anyway.

Vinny
11-30-2011, 11:12 AM
I guess I'd simply counter by saying that Kubiak wasn't really even *trying* to fool anyone on the Jax defense, especially in the second half. He really made no pretense of going downfield, did nothing to make the defense think they were going to ever go stretch the field, and didn't seem to care if the Jags knew it. He was "all in" on his defense holding the lead. The players simply reflected that on offense. AJ (or anyone else) won't "fool the defense" if the defense knows it's going to be a run anyway.
I'll add that Kubiak said he changed how he called the game to protect his only qb. He didn't take any chances and didn't want Yates to take any hits since he was the last qb. awful thread...this will be my last post.

BullNation4Life
11-30-2011, 11:14 AM
I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

O.....M....G....

You're one of those guys that wants little league coaches to run the score up on 6 yr old baseball game , aren't you...

Are you freaking kidding me? The dude has been off a football field and hasn't been able to run full speed in over a freaking month. He was not in complete football shape, even before he went down. Kubiak said he was gassed and said he left AJ out there too long for being off for so long...

Andre Johnson and mediocrity are two words that should NEVER be put in the same sentence...Pathetic

ziggy29
11-30-2011, 11:14 AM
Kubiak said he changed how he called the game to protect his only qb. He didn't take any chances and didn't want Yates to take any hits since he was the last qb.
Agreed -- hence my point. There is little a WR can do to "keep the defense honest" if it's very clear that the coaches aren't going to call a downfield play. Having said that, with AJ just coming off an injury, why would you have him constantly running full sprints on every snap, risking a re-aggravation of his hammy, when it's still not going to fool the defense into thinking you're going to pass?

False Start
11-30-2011, 11:20 AM
Wow... so you're saying AJ was slacking off? That is the last thing he would do. Dre is a baller, and is the last person that you would see mailing it in.

ziggy29
11-30-2011, 11:22 AM
Wow... so you're saying AJ was slacking off? That is the last thing he would do. Dre is a baller, and is the last person that you would see mailing it in.
And if he wasn't busting his hump on every play, under the circumstances of the second half, it would not surprise me one bit if the coaching staff told AJ to dial it back a bit. They weren't going to be calling many plays downfield to him and they didn't care if the Jax defense knew it, so why risk re-injuring the hammy by going 100% on every play?

Maddict5
11-30-2011, 11:30 AM
he was probably too busy thinking of ways to get away without paying tips at restaurants to concentrate on his routes :rolleyes:

Texcore
11-30-2011, 11:35 AM
Its not inconceivable to think that he has rust and his legs are not where they are supposed to be.

But I agree with the premise of the thread that he needs to be that leader we need him to be. Step up on the field and on the sidelines as well.

False Start
11-30-2011, 11:48 AM
And if he wasn't busting his hump on every play, under the circumstances of the second half, it would not surprise me one bit if the coaching staff told AJ to dial it back a bit. They weren't going to be calling many plays downfield to him and they didn't care if the Jax defense knew it, so why risk re-injuring the hammy by going 100% on every play?

Oh yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. But to say he was dogging it on his own is just kind of hard to believe.

Corrosion
11-30-2011, 12:04 PM
I'll add that Kubiak said he changed how he called the game to protect his only qb. He didn't take any chances and didn't want Yates to take any hits since he was the last qb. awful thread...this will be my last post.

I made the same statement in another thread adding that OD was the backup to the backup backup .... OD actually took snaps from under center after halftime.

Oh yeah, I wouldn't doubt that. But to say he was dogging it on his own is just kind of hard to believe.

AJ dogging it is like Santa Clause taking a nap .... It'll never happen.

False Start
11-30-2011, 12:08 PM
AJ dogging it is like Santa Clause taking a nap .... It'll never happen.

Or like saying you like Obama... :heh:

Corrosion
11-30-2011, 12:30 PM
Or like saying you like Obama... :heh:

{////////> Obama

^^^ Thats a screw

Double Barrel
11-30-2011, 12:41 PM
I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

http://community.us.playstation.com/servlet/JiveServlet/downloadImage/2-31003045-6300/godzilla-facepalm-godzilla-facepalm-face-palm-epic-fail-demotivational-poster-1245384435.jpg

HOU-TEX
11-30-2011, 12:46 PM
Unfortunately, there has been a lot of these type threads lately. *sigh*

Mr. Texan
11-30-2011, 01:01 PM
ANDRE Y U NO HAVE GOOD QB THROWING TO U? http://i.imgur.com/etYbP.png

False Start
11-30-2011, 01:04 PM
Unfortunately, there has been a lot of these type threads lately. *sigh*

Thats what happens when the bandwagon starts to fill up. http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9974/txnsbwagon1gif.png :dontknowa

burro
11-30-2011, 01:14 PM
I agree that every leader on this team needs to step up and put things into perspective for those who aren't mentally prepared to be entering the playoffs.

I disagree that the word "mediocrity" belongs in any sentence in which Andre Johnson is the subject.

Corrosion
11-30-2011, 01:24 PM
ANDRE Y U NO HAVE GOOD QB THROWING TO U? http://i.imgur.com/etYbP.png

ANDRE Y U NO THROW THE BALL 2 URSELF :ahhaha:

Playoffs
11-30-2011, 01:51 PM
AJ is always up.

He's second hardest working WR in the league.

Maddict5
11-30-2011, 02:16 PM
AJ is always up.

He's second hardest working WR in the league.

must............resist.......the urge..........to ask:overreact:

False Start
11-30-2011, 02:45 PM
Maybe Dre can take the snap, throw the ball and use his superman powers to run fast enough to catch his own pass. :fingergun:

HOU-TEX
11-30-2011, 03:13 PM
Maybe Dre can take the snap, throw the ball and use his superman powers to run fast enough to catch his own pass. :fingergun:

I betcha he can do it. He easily did this, so why not?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy-files/09000d5d8104702e/Fantasy-Files-Andre-Johnson

Double Barrel
11-30-2011, 03:13 PM
must............resist.......the urge..........to ask:overreact:

Jacoby Jones :smiliedance:

False Start
11-30-2011, 03:16 PM
I betcha he can do it. He easily did this, so why not?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy-files/09000d5d8104702e/Fantasy-Files-Andre-Johnson

Damn! I had forgot about that. Dude is just so damn bad ass. :wild:

Dutchrudder
11-30-2011, 03:36 PM
I know nobody wants to point out the obvious, but we really need Dre to step it up if we are going to do anything with any of the QB choices left to us.
I noticed in the game vs. the Jags that his routes were nothing more then haphazard attempts at mediocrity. Granted the plays called were mostly either an option or a dump or a run most of the time. But watching him half way shuffle off the line will not fool anybody. And we need him to at least cast that thought that we might actually pass the ball.
We have a great running game but it will dwindle quickly if every team out there knows it's a run, run, run, kick set of downs.

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/12/5/129045180465672169.jpg

DBCooper
11-30-2011, 04:07 PM
Thats what happens when the bandwagon starts to fill up. http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9974/txnsbwagon1gif.png :dontknowa

It's the taint of the Mainboard muddying the water.

Texanator
11-30-2011, 06:19 PM
Say what you will, hate the thread, it matters not, but from what could be seen he was not exploding off the line, he was not even running off the line. Jogging would be a more appropriate word.
My point is, with our current situation, we need everybody especially AJ giving 200%. If you can't wrap your min d around that, then you probably don't really understand the game, much less our predicament.

And dumping on my Rep Power does not effect me at all. Like Jack said................."You can't handle the truth!"

gary
11-30-2011, 10:12 PM
Every one of the eleven men who are on the field who are out there on the field at the same together have to step up their game on both sides of the football because the last time I checked football was a team sport.

GuerillaBlack
11-30-2011, 10:26 PM
http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2009/12/5/129045180465672169.jpg

I think its pretty clear.....



HE TROLLIN

imatexan
11-30-2011, 10:36 PM
He was not "exploding off the line"!?

Well of course not this is his 1st game back from a multi-week injury!!!

VTexan
11-30-2011, 10:36 PM
Did he not tip your daughter either?!?!

Vinnie
11-30-2011, 10:44 PM
I think the OP has a pretty valid point. Obviously we need to bring David Anderson back.

b0ng
11-30-2011, 11:01 PM
Say what you will, hate the thread, it matters not, but from what could be seen he was not exploding off the line, he was not even running off the line. Jogging would be a more appropriate word.
My point is, with our current situation, we need everybody especially AJ giving 200%. If you can't wrap your min d around that, then you probably don't really understand the game, much less our predicament.

And dumping on my Rep Power does not effect me at all. Like Jack said................."You can't handle the truth!"

Show some evidence of what you are claiming because when I watched the game I saw none of what you described.

ObsiWan
11-30-2011, 11:02 PM
Say what you will, hate the thread, it matters not, but from what could be seen he was not exploding off the line, he was not even running off the line. Jogging would be a more appropriate word.
My point is, with our current situation, we need everybody especially AJ giving 200%. If you can't wrap your min d around that, then you probably don't really understand the game, much less our predicament.

And dumping on my Rep Power does not effect me at all. Like Jack said................."You can't handle the truth!"

You'll have to be more specific. Which PASSING plays in particular did you <ahem> witness this??

When we're running the ball, the WRs don't always "explode off the line" but instead look for a DB to occupy/block. So if this "jogging" thing you witnessed was during our running plays - which is pretty much all we did in the second half - then he was doing his job.

XI CMURDER IX
11-30-2011, 11:45 PM
You want him to give 200% effort on every play? That is almost like you want him to take the snap, throw the ball to himself, break multiple tackles, and then run it in for a touchdown. All coming off a fairly major hamstring injury.

I think you be posting in the wrong place, let me direct you to a better place to say these things.

http://www.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-football/

I think you are looking for the forum listed above.

Seriously though, what did you expect him to do? I think the main role he played in the game last week was taking on double coverage, which he did almost every play. If I remember correctly, he was quadruple covered on one play where Yates threw the ball perfectly to hit him.

edo783
12-01-2011, 12:03 AM
Sometimes some folks need to have a keyboard that doesn't work.

Texn4life
12-01-2011, 01:19 AM
I can't tell....... Is this guy serious or is he joking?

htowntexans1985
12-01-2011, 01:58 AM
That's the first future hall of famer the Texans will have. Nothing he has.done in the past has deserved.your judgement on him of being lazy,non chalant, mailing in, or taking plays off. Andre is a beast and I am.Damn glad.he is on our side. I'm sure their are 31 other teams.that would love Andre on their team. Even if he doesn't tip!!! :fans:

Texn4life
12-01-2011, 02:05 AM
That's the first future hall of famer the Texans will have. Nothing he has.done in the past has deserved.your judgement on him of being lazy,non chalant, mailing in, or taking plays off. Andre is a beast and I am.Damn glad.he is on our side. I'm sure their are 31 other teams.that would love Andre on their team. Even if he doesn't tip!!! :fans:

Allegedly!!!! :fans:

htowntexans1985
12-01-2011, 02:22 AM
Allegedly!!!! :fans:

Lmao! True!

Playoffs
12-01-2011, 11:12 AM
double post

Playoffs
12-01-2011, 11:14 AM
Pro football expert from "South Austin" ..... also known as San Marcos. :specnatz:

Vinny
12-01-2011, 12:33 PM
I guess Texanator is neg repping everyone who disagrees with him huh? I bet my neg rep is bigger than your neg rep pards.

Dutchrudder
12-01-2011, 12:43 PM
Say what you will, hate the thread, it matters not, but from what could be seen he was not exploding off the line, he was not even running off the line. Jogging would be a more appropriate word.
My point is, with our current situation, we need everybody especially AJ giving 200%. If you can't wrap your min d around that, then you probably don't really understand the game, much less our predicament.

And dumping on my Rep Power does not effect me at all. Like Jack said................."You can't handle the truth!"

You should get a new avatar.

michaelm
12-01-2011, 12:58 PM
I guess Texanator is neg repping everyone who disagrees with him huh? I bet my neg rep is bigger than your neg rep pards.

MSNR

(must spread neg rep) before giving neg rep to Texanator again.

drs23
12-01-2011, 01:28 PM
I agree that every leader on this team needs to step up and put things into perspective for those who aren't mentally prepared to be entering the playoffs.

I disagree that the word "mediocrity" belongs in any sentence in which Andre Johnson is the subject.

It's been suggested that he's somewhat mediocre at tipping. :kitten:

BlueSteel
12-01-2011, 03:22 PM
That's the first future hall of famer the Texans will have. Nothing he has.done in the past has deserved.your judgement on him of being lazy,non chalant, mailing in, or taking plays off. Andre is a beast and I am.Damn glad.he is on our side. I'm sure their are 31 other teams.that would love Andre on their team. Even if he doesn't tip!!! :fans:

I. Certainly. Agree. With. This. Post. :)

eriadoc
12-01-2011, 03:59 PM
Say what you will, hate the thread, it matters not, but from what could be seen he was not exploding off the line, he was not even running off the line. Jogging would be a more appropriate word.
My point is, with our current situation, we need everybody especially AJ giving 200%. If you can't wrap your min d around that, then you probably don't really understand the game, much less our predicament.

And dumping on my Rep Power does not effect me at all. Like Jack said................."You can't handle the truth!"

See Mods? There are times when people just need to be labeled what they are, but you block the word. Tsk, tsk.

:D

Double Barrel
12-01-2011, 05:56 PM
See Mods? There are times when people just need to be labeled what they are, but you block the word. Tsk, tsk.

:D

Word? What word?

Surely you are not referring to the word idiot, no? :fingergun:

DBCooper
12-01-2011, 05:58 PM
Word? What word?

Surely you are not referring to the word idiot, no? :fingergun:

Lol

CloakNNNdagger
12-02-2011, 01:54 PM
Cover of this Sunday's Gameday Magazine (Deep Steel):

http://prod.static.texans.clubs.nfl.com/assets/clubimages/2011_Texans_Gm8CoverREV1.jpg

Texan_Bill
12-02-2011, 02:04 PM
Cover of this Sunday's Gameday Magazine (Deep Steel):

http://prod.static.texans.clubs.nfl.com/assets/clubimages/2011_Texans_Gm8CoverREV1.jpg

Picture fail, Doc. X

drs23
12-02-2011, 02:42 PM
Picture fail, Doc. X

Loud and clear here TB. Two times. :D