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ziggy29
11-27-2011, 03:55 PM
Give to Foster on first down. Sure fooled the Jax defense!

ChrisG
11-27-2011, 03:55 PM
Here we go again. Im beyond pissed

GP
11-27-2011, 03:55 PM
It will be two more rushing plays, guys.

Burning clock. Period.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 03:56 PM
where has Tate been?

all I see is Foster

redwhiteANDblue
11-27-2011, 03:56 PM
Wow foster got a yard. Yay

Buffi2
11-27-2011, 03:56 PM
Foster picks up a yard - this play calling is ridiculous - do something for goodness sakes

gafftop
11-27-2011, 03:56 PM
run run pass punt

Big Lou
11-27-2011, 03:56 PM
J-Ville needs more tarps for the seats.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 03:57 PM
nevermind

GP
11-27-2011, 03:57 PM
That's a pass play that's really a running play. 1, maybe 2 yards at most.

This will be a running play.

Kubiak is making our defense win the game. Period.

Horner
11-27-2011, 03:57 PM
Kubiak's done. I realize we're in a less than ideal situation, but this is just ridiculous. It's so predictable it's absurd.

houstonspartan
11-27-2011, 03:57 PM
Ok, yeah, I need Kubiak to do something bold here. I get taking it slow, but we need to end this.

ChrisG
11-27-2011, 03:57 PM
Another screen!?!

Big Lou
11-27-2011, 03:57 PM
Offense looks like Jacksonville.

ChrisG
11-27-2011, 03:58 PM
Didn't even waste 90 seconds

Mr. Texan
11-27-2011, 03:58 PM
:kitten:

playa465
11-27-2011, 03:58 PM
I was tempted to pull my sig pic a few weeks ago when we were sitting at 7-3.

But today, even despite the injuries to Schaub and Leinart, a guy like Kubiak has to take some chances and show some faith.

He's trying to grind it out, hoping the defense will hold 'em.

I guess a win is a win....IF it works, btw.

But still, not having a 3rd QB active today was beyond excusable to me. Especially against the Jags defense. Unacceptable.

How many times have we had 3 active QBs on a gameday? Besides a 3rd QB, who would be Clemens, probably knows 0% of our playbook.

Horner
11-27-2011, 03:58 PM
Whatever, season over. Hope we draft a QB in the 1st.

disaacks3
11-27-2011, 03:58 PM
If we lose this, Kubiak should be forced to watch this game over and over again, a la "A Clockwork Orange" style.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 03:58 PM
here is the game folks
last drive for the kittens

Big Lou
11-27-2011, 03:59 PM
3 and out really....

OK cue up the the J-Ville no gain, no gain, penalty, TD

Mr. Texan
11-27-2011, 03:59 PM
oh no, don't show a replay of that play again

GP
11-27-2011, 03:59 PM
I have no words.

I normally sign off the board at this point, but I'm going to reverse the trend.

ChrisG
11-27-2011, 03:59 PM
Kubes pulls this shit next week he better get fired

GP
11-27-2011, 04:00 PM
Two more stops please.

Stomach is in knots.

Horner
11-27-2011, 04:00 PM
The Atlanta game should be fun...

houstonspartan
11-27-2011, 04:00 PM
wow

GP
11-27-2011, 04:00 PM
Wide open.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:00 PM
uggh

Pantherstang84
11-27-2011, 04:00 PM
Thank you Kubiak!

LonerATO
11-27-2011, 04:01 PM
I'm in full stress mode right now.

ziggy29
11-27-2011, 04:01 PM
That was the Texans secondary I remember from last year.

steelbtexan
11-27-2011, 04:01 PM
Gary has no balls.

Calling Mike Sherman

mariowillshine15
11-27-2011, 04:01 PM
Defense looks dog tired. Not surprising since it's been on the field the whole damn half.

Big Lou
11-27-2011, 04:01 PM
Here we go......

TheRealJoker
11-27-2011, 04:01 PM
This offense is effectively neutered without Schaub :-(

GP
11-27-2011, 04:01 PM
Three more stops.

Kubiak should buy the whole defense and its coaches a new car after this shit.

Buffi2
11-27-2011, 04:02 PM
I have no words.

I normally sign off the board at this point, but I'm going to reverse the trend.

There are no words. Just like years past - keep calling the same plays, go into overtime and lose. I don't care if we are on our 8th string QB - surely this guy knows more plays than hand it off to Foster.

ChrisG
11-27-2011, 04:02 PM
Kubes is absolutely terrible today. "Its on me" no shit! Make a change and so some balls

SheTexan
11-27-2011, 04:02 PM
I understand the taking it slow part - I don't understand why Kubiak doesn't at least change running backs.

Me either. Really gettin kinda ticked off too. Tate can get the yards!! AF is having a rough day.

disaacks3
11-27-2011, 04:02 PM
I'm in full stress mode right now.

You and me both.....waiting for the train to wreck.

Pantherstang84
11-27-2011, 04:02 PM
Gary has no balls.

Calling Mike Sherman

This. It is easy to call a game when things are going perfect.

dtran04
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Not a single head coach in the NFL will let a 3rd string rookie QB, activated for the 1st time ever, toss the ball around. This isn't Madden.

mariowillshine15
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Barwin is an absolute beast.

Xcellerator
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Four for BARWIN!!!

disaacks3
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Sack #7

Naiirb
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Barwin with 4 SACKS!!!!

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
BARWIN!! 4th!!

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Connor freaking Barwin!!!

LonerATO
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Yes Barwin and now we need to win this.

redwhiteANDblue
11-27-2011, 04:03 PM
Barwin is a monster

Austrian
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Barwin!!

ziggy29
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
And no flags -- I'm stunned!

ChrisG
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Kubes better fix this next week.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
what a throw.. 3 people around them

TexansBlood
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
wow

Naiirb
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Game over thank you McCain for sealing it

StarStruck
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Great sack. Now it's time for a big interception!

Big Lou
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Barwin!!!!!

Mr. Texan
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
that's game :whip:

disaacks3
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Bad choice by JDR. Whew!

Austrian
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
McCain!!

XI CMURDER IX
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Not a single head coach in the NFL will let a 3rd string rookie QB, activated for the 1st time ever, toss the ball around. This isn't Madden.

This.

RTP2110
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
****ing Barwin for MVP!!!

Horner
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
Well it was ugly as shit, but I guess a wins a win.

Probably about time to look towards next season unfortunately.

playa465
11-27-2011, 04:04 PM
WHEW...Game ball to Connor Barwin and Mercedes Lewis

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:05 PM
hahah Del Rio chopped the wood a bit to fast on that 4th down

steelbtexan
11-27-2011, 04:05 PM
Barwin and McCain= Win

Game ball goes to Barwin.

ensign_lee
11-27-2011, 04:05 PM
Connor barwinnnnnnnnn

Naiirb
11-27-2011, 04:05 PM
This team is in trouble now, i really don't know what to think at this point

redwhiteANDblue
11-27-2011, 04:05 PM
well this is a terrible feeling. We are 8-3 but feels like 3-8 to be honest

StarStruck
11-27-2011, 04:05 PM
Ugly win, but great nonetheless. Thanks Jags!

Austrian
11-27-2011, 04:05 PM
Wow I can't see us winnng ten games.

Big Lou
11-27-2011, 04:05 PM
Time to get TJ spun up!!!!!

LonerATO
11-27-2011, 04:06 PM
This team is in trouble now, i really don't know what to think at this point

I agree.

Stemp
11-27-2011, 04:06 PM
Remember our first couple of years when the D had to win games for us?

That's where we are now.

JDizzle
11-27-2011, 04:06 PM
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ziggy29
11-27-2011, 04:07 PM
well this is a terrible feeling. We are 8-3 but feels like 3-8 to be honest

It's like the football gods refuse to let the Texans into the ranks of the elite. When it finally feels like your year, let's just injure a bunch of their most important players.

SAMURAITEXAN
11-27-2011, 04:07 PM
Good W but man!

Go Texans!!!

houstonspartan
11-27-2011, 04:07 PM
We won, but I am terrified about moving forward.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:07 PM
Not a single head coach in the NFL will let a 3rd string rookie QB, activated for the 1st time ever, toss the ball around. This isn't Madden.

thank you

BullNation4Life
11-27-2011, 04:07 PM
Wow I can't see us winnng ten games.

Really? Really! Really? Can't see this team winning 2 more games? Really?

Big Lou
11-27-2011, 04:07 PM
TJ looked good at the end of the 2nd. Maybe if Kubes gets the lump of coal out of his ass TJ might be able to do something.

welsh texan
11-27-2011, 04:07 PM
Is it just me or does McCain seem to come up big at crucial times for us?? Great play there to seal the win.

The Texans crawl over the line thanks to some fantastic D. I hope Brett Favre has our playbook in his inbox already though, because there is no way we're going to the playoffs with Yates as the starter, it isn't because he isn't any good, its because Kubiak will never trust a rookie to make any plays.

playa465
11-27-2011, 04:07 PM
Not a single head coach in the NFL will let a 3rd string rookie QB, activated for the 1st time ever, toss the ball around. This isn't Madden.

This.

:clap: Exactly

GP
11-27-2011, 04:08 PM
8 wins

3 losses

Facing what will probably be an 8-4 Falcons team in Reliant with probably TJ Yates at QB.

How do I even begin to appreciate today's win. It's the most bitter-sweet feeling right now. Good to get a win, scared like hell for next week.

Scared like hell for the rest of the season. 8-8 can NOT be this team's destiny can it? Geez.

ThaJokaa
11-27-2011, 04:08 PM
This team is in trouble now, i really don't know what to think at this point

Agreed! Kubiak is lucky that the D won the game for him. I'm still pissed about how he ran the O in the 2nd half..

Big Lou
11-27-2011, 04:08 PM
I feel horrible for AJ, he's just gotta feel jinxed.

steelbtexan
11-27-2011, 04:09 PM
Not a single head coach in the NFL will let a 3rd string rookie QB, activated for the 1st time ever, toss the ball around. This isn't Madden.

Agreed

But you got to let him throw a couple of fly patterns or deep posts.

BullNation4Life
11-27-2011, 04:09 PM
TJ looked good at the end of the 2nd. Maybe if Kubes gets the lump of coal out of his ass TJ might be able to do something.

Maybe if you football IQ wasn't based on Madden, you would understand the situation

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:09 PM
TJ looked good at the end of the 2nd. Maybe if Kubes gets the lump of coal out of his ass TJ might be able to do something.

well I think the Jags defense had some time to adjust a bit. when TJ came in they didn't know what to expect.

brakos82
11-27-2011, 04:09 PM
8 wins

3 losses

Facing what will probably be an 8-4 Falcons team in Reliant with probably TJ Yates at QB.

How do I even begin to appreciate today's win. It's the most bitter-sweet feeling right now. Good to get a win, scared like hell for next week.

Scared like hell for the rest of the season. 8-8 can NOT be this team's destiny can it? Geez.

Hell, it's better than 5-7. :whip:

BullNation4Life
11-27-2011, 04:09 PM
Agreed

But you got to let him throw a couple of fly patterns or deep posts.

Not this week you don't...

ziggy29
11-27-2011, 04:09 PM
8 wins

3 losses

Facing what will probably be an 8-4 Falcons team in Reliant with probably TJ Yates at QB.

How do I even begin to appreciate today's win. It's the most bitter-sweet feeling right now. Good to get a win, scared like hell for next week.

Scared like hell for the rest of the season. 8-8 can NOT be this team's destiny can it? Geez.
And the Bucs just fumbled on a 4th and 1 in Titans territory down by 6 with a minute to play. This team needs all the cushion it can get right now.

kiwitexansfan
11-27-2011, 04:10 PM
On the brightside we still have the Colts on the schedule.

I'll take the win on the day and hope Yates with a full week of starters reps gets up to speed enough for us to compete against the rest of the schedule.

The Cush
11-27-2011, 04:10 PM
Holy ******* our defense stepped up today. We have a week to prepare Yates as our starter with the 1st teamers. I don't expect our offense to be as conservative against the Falcons. Kubiak was not prepared for this situation and he escaped with the win which is all that matters at this point

Austrian
11-27-2011, 04:10 PM
Really? Really! Really? Can't see this team winning 2 more games? Really?

I'm a little gutted. I can't believe the luck of this team. That said i believe we beat atleast the Colts and Carolina. Go Texans!

GP
11-27-2011, 04:10 PM
This is a time when I consider trying marijuana for the first time in my life.

disaacks3
11-27-2011, 04:10 PM
Really? Really! Really? Can't see this team winning 2 more games? Really? Did you see a score in the second half by the Texans....I didn't.

TJ looked good at the end of the 2nd. Maybe if Kubes gets the lump of coal out of his ass TJ might be able to do something. Yep, the training wheels come off, or we fail miserably at least three of the next five.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:10 PM
Agreed! Kubiak is lucky that the D won the game for him. I'm still pissed about how he ran the O in the 2nd half..

no running game and a 3rd string QB might had something to do with it.

gone was the play action pass and roll outs

Buffi2
11-27-2011, 04:11 PM
I feel horrible for AJ, he's just gotta feel jinxed.

I feel horrible for the entire team. To be so close......Let's hope Kubiak spends 24/7 with Yates this week and seriously coaches him up to where he can do more than hand off the ball. Just one or two more plays would be nice.

ziggy29
11-27-2011, 04:11 PM
This is a time when I consider trying marijuana for the first time in my life.
I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

BullNation4Life
11-27-2011, 04:12 PM
I'm a little gutted. I can't believe the luck of this team. That said i believe we beat atleast the Colts and Carolina. Go Texans!

Luck? What luck? Hell if it wasn't for bad luck, this team would have no luck at all...

steelbtexan
11-27-2011, 04:12 PM
Maybe the plane will make a detour to Hattiesburg on the way home.

That or time to get Warner off the NFLN.

brakos82
11-27-2011, 04:12 PM
I picked the wrong week to stop sniffing glue.

I picked the wrong week to stop jumping out of airplanes without a parachute.

dream_team
11-27-2011, 04:13 PM
Not a single head coach in the NFL will let a 3rd string rookie QB, activated for the 1st time ever, toss the ball around. This isn't Madden.

Finally... someone that has some sense around here!

I know a lot of people in here will complain that we won, despite Kubiak's play calling... and how wade saved his ass.

How do you know we didn't win BECAUSE of Kubes' conservative play calling? How do you know Yates doesn't throw 2 picks? How do you know the extra incomplete passes Yates may have thrown gives enough time to the Jags that last drive to score a TD?

Come on guys... you play smart football. Let your #1 defense and #2 rushing offense win this game, not a 3rd string QB.

ziggy29
11-27-2011, 04:13 PM
no running game and a 3rd string QB might had something to do with it.

gone was the play action pass and roll outs
See, that is what puzzled me. It's possible to run relatively safe plays out of play action. But we didn't see it at all. I don't think anyone is suggesting the play calling shouldn't have become more conservative with Yates in there. But I think it was excessively conservative. Any QB good enough to be in the NFL needs to be trusted a *little* more than that.

The defense won this game on fumes and guts. They could do that for 30 minutes against a fairly weak offense... no way they can do that for 60 against a stronger offense.

PapaL
11-27-2011, 04:14 PM
This is a time when I consider trying marijuana for the first time in my life.

Now that is comical!

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:14 PM
Finally... someone that has some sense around here!

I know a lot of people in here will complain that we won, despite Kubiak's play calling... and how wade saved his ass.

How do you know we didn't win BECAUSE of Kubes' conservative play calling? How do you know Yates doesn't throw 2 pics? How do you know the extra incomplete passes Yates may have thrown gives enough time to the Jags that last drive to score a TD?

Come on guys... you play smart football. Let your #1 defense and #2 rushing offense win this game, not a 3rd string QB.

I was thinking this also.

GP
11-27-2011, 04:15 PM
Hell, it's better than 5-7. :whip:

Not this week you don't...

I think, all things considered, Kubiak did what he felt he had to do in order to have the best chance to win the game.

Maybe grinding it out, via our defense, was the best bet to make.

He's never had a defense that can do that, like Wade's kids did today, so Kubiak chose to try it on for size. Turns out that it worked.

How many full practices do we have left? The CBA says there's a limit and I think we've only got two or three remaining. Right?

I suppose another round of QB tryouts this week, too? Or does he ring up one of the other four QBs who tried out last week and gets the guy in here ASAP?

Lots to digest.

ziggy29
11-27-2011, 04:16 PM
Come on guys... you play smart football. Let your #1 defense and #2 rushing offense win this game, not a 3rd string QB.

Except that the #2 rushing offense won't look like the #2 rushing offense when the 11 guys on the other side of the field *know* you're going to run, and the #1 defense may not look like the #1 defense if it's on the field for something like 43 minutes of the game.

I don't think anyone is suggesting the play calling should not have changed and become more conservative. The disagreement here is a matter of degree, I think.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:16 PM
See, that is what puzzled me. It's possible to run relatively safe plays out of play action. But we didn't see it at all. I don't think anyone is suggesting the play calling shouldn't have become more conservative with Yates in there. But I think it was excessively conservative. Any QB good enough to be in the NFL needs to be trusted a *little* more than that.

The defense won this game on fumes and guts. They could do that for 30 minutes against a fairly weak offense... no way they can do that for 60 against a stronger offense.

while I agree surprised we didn't see more action with the TE.

fiasco west
11-27-2011, 04:17 PM
See, that is what puzzled me. It's possible to run relatively safe plays out of play action. But we didn't see it at all. I don't think anyone is suggesting the play calling shouldn't have become more conservative with Yates in there. But I think it was excessively conservative. Any QB good enough to be in the NFL needs to be trusted a *little* more than that.

The defense won this game on fumes and guts. They could do that for 30 minutes against a fairly weak offense... no way they can do that for 60 against a stronger offense.

To be fair the Jags have a great defense.

They played a large part in making our offense look bad...

Texan Asylum
11-27-2011, 04:18 PM
Maybe the plane will make a detour to Hattiesburg on the way home.

That or time to get Warner off the NFLN.

I'd go with Favre.

I've been one of his greatest critics since his multiple retirements, but at this stage what are you to do? I can see this happening...he comes in here with that gunslinger of an arm, throwing to AJ. Wins the AFC with his new team and plays against his old team in the Superbowl and wins it! I can feel it!

Texan4Ever
11-27-2011, 04:18 PM
Game ball to Barwin for his four sack performance. This is what we've been waiting for!

SheTexan
11-27-2011, 04:19 PM
I'm not sure I've ever been so glad to see a game END!! Our D pulled it off for us today, not sure about next week. Thank gawd for that 10 point lead, it was enough to get us through. I'm completely beat!!

IBleedTexans
11-27-2011, 04:19 PM
See, that is what puzzled me. It's possible to run relatively safe plays out of play action. But we didn't see it at all. I don't think anyone is suggesting the play calling shouldn't have become more conservative with Yates in there. But I think it was excessively conservative. Any QB good enough to be in the NFL needs to be trusted a *little* more than that.

The defense won this game on fumes and guts. They could do that for 30 minutes against a fairly weak offense... no way they can do that for 60 against a stronger offense.
Your right ,you wouldn't do that on a better offense . I'm sure if they were playing a better offense ,Kubes would of been forced to see what Yates could do.
But and there is a big BUT , you were playing sorry ass Jacksonville .


END OF DISCUSSION.

The Cush
11-27-2011, 04:19 PM
Finally... someone that has some sense around here!

I know a lot of people in here will complain that we won, despite Kubiak's play calling... and how wade saved his ass.

How do you know we didn't win BECAUSE of Kubes' conservative play calling? How do you know Yates doesn't throw 2 pics? How do you know the extra incomplete passes Yates may have thrown gives enough time to the Jags that last drive to score a TD?

Come on guys... you play smart football. Let your #1 defense and #2 rushing offense win this game, not a 3rd string QB.

Exactly. If you were to gauge how prepared a 3rd string 5th round rookie QB, on a scale of 1-10 what do you think it would be? I would say 4. Schaub has taken almost all of the 1st team reps this season, then the last few weeks they have allocated that to Leinart to prepare him. Yates has been scrapping for reps in practice which was probably with 2nd and 3rd teamers. How can anyone want/expect them to open up the playbook with a guy that's still green. Look at Blaine Gabbert, he has been given every opportunity to succeed and get better in practice and he still sucks. Yates is getting maybe 1/3 of those resources in comparison. If they go hand-off, hand-off, hand-off next week and the weeks after then you can start complaining.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:20 PM
I'm not sure I've ever been so glad to see a game END!! Our D pulled it off for us today, not sure about next week. Thank gawd for that 10 point lead, it was enough to get us through. I'm completely beat!!

I am too ST .. time clock couldn't move fast enough


did we even get a 1st down in the 2nd half?

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:21 PM
Your right ,you wouldn't do that on a better offense . I'm sure if they were playing a better offense ,Kubes would of been forced to see what Yates could do.
But and there is a big BUT , you were playing sorry ass Jacksonville .


END OF DISCUSSION.

yes sorry ass jacksonville, but they did have a good defense

FirstTexansFan
11-27-2011, 04:21 PM
Could the city of Houston be more jinxed? I think not :(


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I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=29.680793,-98.114191

GP
11-27-2011, 04:22 PM
Next week vs. Falcons, Kubiak has to have the run game running on all cylinders. I mean it.

This week, he has to pull in his RBs and his O-Line and let them know that the defense bailed their ass out vs. Jax but THEY (the RBs and O-Line) better make special plays and go back to being dominant again.

We're missing Mario Williams but it's a rookie filling in him for him, and he seems to be able to work within Wade's scheme OK. DeMeco is on and off for some reason. Manning had been gone for several weeks. Yet the defense still finds ways to execute the plays and get things done.

All I got is that the Jags defense is a bit underrated. It has always been the focal point of JDR and it's better this year than people are aware of. However, they had two 2nd string CBs out there today...and we barely tried to take advantage of them. If that's Kubiak trying to play the odds and go conservative due to the QB situation...then so be it.

I just have concerns from here on out.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 04:23 PM
TJ Yates, all that kid does is win!

Brakos

:lol:

Stemp
11-27-2011, 04:24 PM
Well, we did play the #3 Defense in the league.

We just need to beat Carolina and Indy and we are in the playoffs. I think we can beat TN at home, which will give us 11 wins.

As of now, I'm expecting ATL and Cincy to be close losses.

SheTexan
11-27-2011, 04:24 PM
I am too ST .. time clock couldn't move fast enough


did we even get a 1st down in the 2nd half?

I don't think so Wolf. All I know is that the friggin offense OWES the D bigtime!! Best steak dinner in the city of Houston twice a week, or more, for the rest of the year!!:breakdance:

Mr. Texan
11-27-2011, 04:25 PM
Could the city of Houston be more jinxed? I think not :(


i blame yao ming.

fiasco west
11-27-2011, 04:27 PM
I just want to put things in perspective here...

1st game against Jags.
Texans-24
Jags-14


2nd game
Texans-20
Jags-13

Just that the Jags had a lot to do with the poor offensive showing. I remember the first game they still did a good job of just making our offense look predictable and not right. Put in a 2nd-3rd string QB and yeah it's going to get a worse. I think our offense looks better next week and beyond though.

Naiirb
11-27-2011, 04:30 PM
Oh my lord....

NickScurfield Nick Scurfield
Matt Leinart: "I think there's probably a pretty strong possibility I won't be coming back this season." #Texans

False Start
11-27-2011, 04:33 PM
I want to be optimistic, but I cant right now. The D, is bad ass, but the QB situation just BLOWS!! :(

Naiirb
11-27-2011, 04:33 PM
McClain_on_NFL John McClain
Leinart admitted it's his left collarbone, same one he broke in 2007 he said it doesn't look good for his return.

BullNation4Life
11-27-2011, 04:37 PM
i blame yao ming.

"it's my fault. It's all mt fault"

T-mac

GP
11-27-2011, 04:41 PM
TJ Yates, all that kid does is win!

Brakos

:lol:

LOL. That's awesome right there. TJ Yates is like VY and Tebow...he just wins games!

I don't think so Wolf. All I know is that the friggin offense OWES the D bigtime!! Best steak dinner in the city of Houston twice a week, or more, for the rest of the year!!:breakdance:

Oh Grandma, I was thinking more along the lines of Kubiak buying the defense and its staff EACH a new car. Steak is not enough!

I just want to put things in perspective here...

1st game against Jags.
Texans-24
Jags-14


2nd game
Texans-20
Jags-13

Just that the Jags had a lot to do with the poor offensive showing. I remember the first game they still did a good job of just making our offense look predictable and not right. Put in a 2nd-3rd string QB and yeah it's going to get a worse. I think our offense looks better next week and beyond though.

It feels good, but it feels bad too.

The weirdest feeling, IMO. I wanted us to sweep all of our divisional rivals...and we're two wins away from doing just that...but I wanted us to dominate them and leave no room for doubt.

Which brings me back to saying that a win is a win. Just feels worse than it should because of the injuries and the turtling up we did on offense.

McClain_on_NFL John McClain
Leinart admitted it's his left collarbone, same one he broke in 2007 he said it doesn't look good for his return.

How sucky is that? You waited and waited, behind Schaub. You turned down a chance to challenge for a starting role in Seattle during the off-season free agency period. And your first HALF as a starter you get drilled into the ground and you're out for the season.

And TJ Yates is staring at his 1st and 2nd string QBs who are both in a boot and a sling...and he's wondering all sorts of things to himself.

TJ Yates has to think the world's eyes are all staring at him now. And he'd be correct about that.

Thorn
11-27-2011, 04:41 PM
If Yates picks up on the game plan, we could still make the playoffs. We just won't last very long in them. Don't count on the Titans continuing to win games like they did today.

Texaninlild
11-27-2011, 04:56 PM
I thought the play-calling was too conservative with Leinart in there. The two-minute run by Yates was pretty effective for him. He seemed more comfortable with the uptempo style. 9 in the box does nothing for the running game or those 1 yd passes Kubes over utilized in this game. Let the kid play because he can ball.

Hats off to the defense who won this for us in spite of the f'n refs. The refs gave the Jagoffs 6 of their 13 points, so the game was not as close as it looked. However, it had that eerie feel from years past of an implosion.:scarygirl:

HTown2ATX
11-27-2011, 04:57 PM
So, I go from starting my day all optimistic and looking forward to seeing what Leinart can do watching the game at family's house after family pictures, to leaving in the 2nd Q and listening in my truck on the way home apparently right when it happened.

WTF man??

I just don't understand WTF......

Yates at least didn't shit his pants and we won, but I could at least be optimistic with Leinart in there. I'm not trying to dump on Yates, but Heisman and BCS winner who was a starter and has experience and was hungry to try again vs. Rookie QB from North Carolina with not a ton of huge accolades.....

Never thought I would say I was really missing Leinart!!!

The way this shit is going we may see OD at QB some game down the road :vincepalm:

thunderkyss
11-27-2011, 05:02 PM
I thought the play-calling was too conservative with Leinart in there. The two-minute run by Yates was pretty effective for him. He seemed more comfortable with the uptempo style.

So you think Kubiak opened the play book for the rookie but closed it off for Leinart?

I don't think so. Remember, just because he threw the ball to Arian out of the backfield 100 times, chances are that Foster was not his primary target. Most likely not his second.

We had this same debate with Carr. There are receivers open all the time, just because Carr checked it down or took a sack, you can't blame the play calling on that.

Last game, @Reliant, I watched our receivers exclusively. They didn't have a corner who could cover JJ. With both Cox & Mathis out, I doubt they had someone who could cover both Aj & Jj... The QB decided not to throw them the ball for whatever reason.

Texaninlild
11-27-2011, 05:12 PM
So you think Kubiak opened the play book for the rookie but closed it off for Leinart?

Actually, no. I thought the play-calling was too conservative for both. Perhaps it was simply the QB's checking down to their 2nd/3rd/4th option but it certainly did not help the mass of Jagoffs and Zebras crowding the line. We can crab-crawl into the playoffs with this play calling, but I want to see the book opened up.

False Start
11-27-2011, 05:13 PM
Good Lord... the 1st call on the Texans postgame show was an dumass VY fan saying Texans are cursed because they didn't draft Vince. I hate them all. :cutthroat:

Wolf
11-27-2011, 05:46 PM
this was U-G-L-Y

Yards per attempt

Yates 4.7
Leinart 4.4



Gabbart 4.7
McCown 5.6
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20111127030&page=boxscore

Thorn
11-27-2011, 06:04 PM
Looking at the remaining schedule for Titans and Texans

Titans: final season projection is probable at 8-8, 9-7 or 10-6 if they beat the Texans

@ Buffalo - could go either way
New Orleans - loss
@ Indy - win
Jacksonville - could go either way
@ Houston - could go either way

Texans: final season projection is probable at 10-6 or 11-5 if they beat the Titans

Atlanta - loss
@ Cincinnati - loss
Carolina - win
@ Indy - win
Tennessee - could go either way

I think it's still highly probable we are in the playoffs this year. Judging from our QB situation, it doesn't look very promising once we get there though.

Wolf
11-27-2011, 06:15 PM
thorn :vincepalm: 10-10

LOL (I knew what you meant)

Thorn
11-27-2011, 06:18 PM
thorn :vincepalm: 10-10

LOL (I knew what you meant)

haha. stupid typos, I hate it when I do that. :gun:

I fixed it.

Txn_in_FL
11-27-2011, 06:53 PM
So I wake up this morning and jump on my ESPN Gamecenter to see the score and I am happy of course... Then I see the Yates stat line and I've got that sinking feeling again.

I'm glad I wasn't awake at 0300 in the morning to watch this thing or I think I would have had a melt down.

I can't believe this is happening. Being a Houston sports fan is so out of control bs at this point I don't even know how to handle it any more.

Curse. Well no kidding.

Can we get a blow up the Dome petition going? Every other city blows up their crappy old stadiums why does Houston continue to hold onto that temple of bad memories?

No way around it, the city is cursed.

Pantherstang84
11-27-2011, 07:30 PM
So I wake up this morning and jump on my ESPN Gamecenter to see the score and I am happy of course... Then I see the Yates stat line and I've got that sinking feeling again.

I'm glad I wasn't awake at 0300 in the morning to watch this thing or I think I would have had a melt down.

I can't believe this is happening. Being a Houston sports fan is so out of control bs at this point I don't even know how to handle it any more.

Curse. Well no kidding.

Can we get a blow up the Dome petition going? Every other city blows up their crappy old stadiums why does Houston continue to hold onto that temple of bad memories?

No way around it, the city is cursed.

I know you said this in jest, but you may be on to something here.

Nawzer
11-27-2011, 08:19 PM
7 sacks in one game. Is that a franchise record or something?

thunderkyss
11-27-2011, 09:05 PM
7 sacks in one game. Is that a franchise record or something?

Yes, & the 4 sacks in a single game by a single player (Barwin) is also a franchise record.