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El Tejano
11-21-2011, 12:07 PM
Just read John Mclain tweet that said he returned to practice and could start on Sunday.

FS Danieal Manning, who underwent surgery for fractured fibula 4 wks ago, returned to practice and could start Sunday.
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Ryan
11-21-2011, 12:11 PM
If true, damn he's a quick healer. He should give Schaub whatever he was taking.

Hervoyel
11-21-2011, 12:17 PM
If true, damn he's a quick healer. He should give Schaub whatever he was taking.

Unless it makes him look pregnant during drug tests. That would be bad. :)

TdotTexas2Step
11-21-2011, 12:18 PM
Just like with AJ, I'd rather give him that extra week to get back to form. I'm glad to see he's ahead of schedule though.

El Tejano
11-21-2011, 12:20 PM
If true, damn he's a quick healer. He should give Schaub whatever he was taking.

I think you are joking but we are talking about Danieal Manning. The only Manning that counts!

GP
11-21-2011, 12:24 PM
Unless it makes him look pregnant during drug tests. That would be bad. :)

LOL. Good one...

I'm sure nobody takes Cushing up on his offers to help them out with nutritional supplements. Can you imagine the response? "Uh, no thanks Brian. I'm good with what I've already got." LOL.

Texans34Life
11-21-2011, 12:24 PM
I think you are joking but we are talking about Danieal Manning. The only Manning that counts!

Almost had a heart attack! That's the Manning I need back.

Ryan
11-21-2011, 12:25 PM
I think you are joking but we are talking about Danieal Manning. The only Manning that counts!


I'm talking about Danieal as well. Wasn't this supposed to be an 8-10 week injury?

El Tejano
11-21-2011, 12:27 PM
I'm talking about Danieal as well. Wasn't this supposed to be an 8-10 week injury?

Actually they did say there could be a 4-6 week recovery if all went well. Glad to see his back at practice. Just made that defense even stronger now. We need all the pass defense we can get for this last stretch.

MistaRed
11-21-2011, 12:53 PM
Good to hear he practiced with the team. If the Doc's clear him this week, let him play!

HOU-TEX
11-21-2011, 01:15 PM
I'd use him in a sub package, if at all. The Jags aren't really an offensive juggernaut where we need our top personel at every position.

Their defense, otoh, is very good. Their D vs Leinart has me concerned.

Texan_Bill
11-21-2011, 01:22 PM
It's been four weeks:


Texans safety Danieal Manning breaks his leg


http://blog.chron.com/nfl/files/2011/10/manning-600x431.jpg


NASHVILLE, Tenn. — Free safety Danieal Manning suffered what appears to be a fractured bone in his lower left leg that could sideline him for as long as eight to 10 weeks.

Manning was injured while making a leaping interception off Matt Hasselbeck in the Texans’ 41-7 victory over the Tennessee Titans.

“My gut feeling is that I’ll be back,” said Manning, who was on crutches. “There’s a crack in it. They tell me I have a few options.”

Manning will have an MRI on Monday. He said he was told in a best-case scenario he could return in four weeks, but it could be as long as eight to 10 weeks.



Link: Texans safety Danieal Manning breaks his leg
(http://blog.chron.com/nfl/2011/10/manning-injured-while-making-interception/)

b0ng
11-21-2011, 02:06 PM
That picture makes it look like he had a compound fracture. Yeeesh.

TexansFanatic
11-21-2011, 02:07 PM
This is the best news we've had in a while.

Jackie Chiles
11-21-2011, 02:08 PM
That picture makes it look like he had a compound fracture. Yeeesh.

I'm looking pretty hard at it and can't find whatever you must be seeing.

Wolf6151
11-21-2011, 02:22 PM
He might be back at practice but I highly doubt he plays on Sunday v. Jacksonville. Like others have said I'd much rather he sit out and get 100% healed up before trying to come back.

HOU-TEX, your not the only one concerned. Jacksonville had me concerned when Schaub was healthy, with Leinart I worried.

NitroGSXR
11-21-2011, 02:26 PM
So I take it this means Nolan goes back to the bench. My only question is... does Nolan deserve to go back on the bench? We have become the #1 defense since Manning went down. I'm not saying Manning sucks or remotely anything like that... just that... what has Manning done to outclass Nolan at this point in time?

drunkcookie
11-21-2011, 02:31 PM
I don't like it! We should just IR him and roll as is, because we know how it's going this year: a star goes down and it's "next man up", a star comes back and it's "next man down"... See you next year, Danieal....

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jradMIT
11-21-2011, 02:31 PM
I think you bring him back like it was said before, split the reps, let him play in the dime, and quarter. Its good because Nolan has been playing well and so has Demps. We have good depth now and can keep guys fresh for the end of the season and the playoffs.

rush2112mn
11-21-2011, 02:32 PM
If he is ready to go....why not.

drunkcookie
11-21-2011, 02:36 PM
If he is ready to go....why not.

Exactly! Ready is ready is ready... If not, keep him in street clothes another week.. pretty simple...

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Rey
11-21-2011, 03:50 PM
Bring him back slowly.

Don't want him to get re-injured and guys have played well in his absence.

TheMatrix31
11-21-2011, 06:09 PM
Let's get him out there.

srrono
11-21-2011, 06:13 PM
I wonder if a cut will be made with him coming back and who it will be

Wolf
11-21-2011, 06:14 PM
I am cautious on this.. if 4 weeks was the minimum.. I'd give it another week.. lets see how this plays out against the Jags..(esp with them all losing last week)

TimeKiller
11-21-2011, 06:23 PM
Encouraging to hear about him practicing but I'm giving him at least another week. Jacksonville and Gabbert don't scare anyone, let alone a D that already held them back.

I give him one more week and ease him back in a rotation.

NitroGSXR
11-21-2011, 06:26 PM
I am cautious on this.. if 4 weeks was the minimum.. I'd give it another week.. lets see how this plays out against the Jags..(esp with them all losing last week)

We don't have another week. This is it! Its crunch time right now. AFC south lost last weekend and we have an opportunity to eliminate the Jaguars from the AFC crown. This is when we separate ourselves from everybody else. We need everybody we can get out there considering we lost our most important player in Matt Schaub.

Throw a boot on him and throw him out there.

Wolf
11-21-2011, 06:30 PM
We don't have another week. This is it! Its crunch time right now. AFC south lost last weekend and we have an opportunity to eliminate the Jaguars from the AFC crown. This is when we separate ourselves from everybody else. We need everybody we can get out there considering we lost our most important player in Matt Schaub.

Throw a boot on him and throw him out there.

while I agree with this, I don't have the confidence in the Jags on their team to win the division
remaining schedule with 3 wins

Houston Texans
San Diego Chargers
@Tampa Bay Buccaneers
@ Atlanta Falcons
Tennessee Titans at Tennessee
Indianapolis Colts

Tennessee
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Buffalo Bills at Buffalo
New Orleans Saints
Indianapolis Colts at Indianapolis
Jacksonville Jaguars
Houston Texans at Houston

NitroGSXR
11-21-2011, 06:45 PM
while I agree with this, I don't have the confidence in the Jags on their team to win the division
remaining schedule with 3 wins

Houston Texans
San Diego Chargers
@Tampa Bay Buccaneers
@ Atlanta Falcons
Tennessee Titans at Tennessee
Indianapolis Colts

Tennessee
Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Buffalo Bills at Buffalo
New Orleans Saints
Indianapolis Colts at Indianapolis
Jacksonville Jaguars
Houston Texans at Houston

It's about sending a message. To be the win that eliminated the Jaguars from contention. If we win on Sunday, then lose out and they win out... they're still out at 8-8 because we win the tie-breaker. This is our "changing of the guard" game in the AFC south. We can click on cruise control ahead of the Titans after we eliminate the Jaguars.

Wolf
11-21-2011, 06:52 PM
your probably right Nitro.. I am just an overly cautious person when it comes to injuries... when they told me I could take my cast off after 6 weeks, I waited 7 .. but that is just me.. I like to be fully healed (and Manning might be)

but with knowing how the Texans work.. what they say (4 weeks with manning) I always think it would be 6..and I am sure they wouldn't put a player out there early..


we have been playing well also

MSR to ya

thunderkyss
11-21-2011, 07:28 PM
So I take it this means Nolan goes back to the bench. My only question is... does Nolan deserve to go back on the bench? We have become the #1 defense since Manning went down. I'm not saying Manning sucks or remotely anything like that... just that... what has Manning done to outclass Nolan at this point in time?

Have you seen Nolan do anything extraordinary?

Wolf
11-21-2011, 07:29 PM
Today is four weeks to the day since Manning's surgery for a broken fibula. Initial reports had him out 'at least four weeks' and one local doctor not affiliated with the Texans said on October 27 that four weeks was "incredibly optimistic" for Manning's return. We'll see how he's feeling at the end of the week.

Manning admitted that he's a bit ahead of schedule. “Yeah, I’m about two weeks, two and a half weeks ahead (of schedule),” said Manning.

As far as how he felt during practice Manning said "initially, I kind of babied it a little bit just to see when we were warming up. As practice continued to go on and warming up, I got to put a lot more pressure on it, way more than I did when I was training and getting rehab. I felt great, no pain after practice, nothing. Just like nothing ever happened.”

Again, this is a case where the Texans should be conservative and not rush a player back. You can build a much better case for bringing Manning back to face Matt Ryan next week as opposed to Blaine Gabbert this week.


Continue reading on Examiner.com Texans back at work, prepare for Jags - Houston Houston Texans | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/texans-back-at-work-prepare-for-jags#ixzz1eOSGHzue

thunderkyss
11-21-2011, 07:29 PM
I don't like it! We should just IR him and roll as is, because we know how it's going this year: a star goes down and it's "next man up", a star comes back and it's "next man down"... See you next year, Danieal....

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& what do we do with Demps?

thunderkyss
11-21-2011, 07:32 PM
I wonder if a cut will be made with him coming back and who it will be


We cut someone already to make room for Demps..... Shilo?

Manning never came off the 53, we knew he would be back.

Nawzer
11-21-2011, 07:43 PM
Man if this is true he's got some great genes. I seriously thought he's gone for the regular season and it's sort of a mini miracle if he does play this Sunday. Idk how severe the fracture was but I hope he is really checked out carefully by the staff and it's not just him wanting to just get out there and play.

Texan_Bill
11-21-2011, 08:11 PM
That picture makes it look like he had a compound fracture. Yeeesh.

I'm looking pretty hard at it and can't find whatever you must be seeing.

Yup JC!!

Bong, what you're seeing is just the "sleeve" they rolled up on his leg. No worries!! As a guy that has experienced a compund fracture of the shin, rest assured it looks a lot different.

srrono
11-21-2011, 08:15 PM
We cut someone already to make room for Demps..... Shilo?

Manning never came off the 53, we knew he would be back.

I think shilo is gone because may need another position of depth

thunderkyss
11-21-2011, 08:25 PM
I think shilo is gone because may need another position of depth

With the uncertainty about Schaub, maybe he can be back in 6-8 weeks, they'll probably cut someone to add a QB.

But if they find out Schaub won't possibly be back, they'll IR Schaub.

Texan_Bill
11-21-2011, 08:28 PM
With the uncertainty about Schaub, maybe he can be back in 6-8 weeks, they'll probably cut someone to add a QB.

But if they find out Schaub won't possibly be back, they'll IR Schaub.

TK, Schaub will not be back.

thunderkyss
11-21-2011, 08:56 PM
TK, Schaub will not be back.

I know that.

You know that.

The Texans haven't come to that conclusion yet.

steelbtexan
11-21-2011, 09:16 PM
Save Manning for the Falcon game.

Texan_Bill
11-21-2011, 09:30 PM
Save Manning for the Falcon game.

Agreed, but just the fact that he's basically ready to go, is awesome!!!

steelbtexan
11-21-2011, 09:59 PM
Yes it is.

It's about time the Texans got some good news on the injury front.

jtexas
11-21-2011, 10:02 PM
Great news even if he doesn't play. He will need at least a week to catch up.

MEGA SWATT
11-21-2011, 10:31 PM
awesome. I just hope we get thru the last 6 games with NO injuries!!!!!:foottap:

NitroGSXR
11-21-2011, 10:41 PM
Yes it is.

It's about time the Texans got some good news on the injury front.

Yup. I'm still waiting to hear some good news about Andre myself. I am betting he does not play on Sunday either.

b0ng
11-21-2011, 10:50 PM
Yup. I'm still waiting to hear some good news about Andre myself. I am betting he does not play on Sunday either.

He practiced today and did all the reps with the team.

Also, the thing that made me think he had a compound was it looked like he had a hole in the sleeve on his leg right below the knee, and I thought I saw a smidge of something white poking out from under it.

NitroGSXR
11-21-2011, 10:59 PM
He practiced today and did all the reps with the team.

Also, the thing that made me think he had a compound was it looked like he had a hole in the sleeve on his leg right below the knee, and I thought I saw a smidge of something white poking out from under it.

I'm aware. I'm also aware the Andre has said he's ready to play. Unfortunately, that's not who I am waiting to hear from. I'm waiting for the official report.

Another thing, it's my understanding that Andre has been practicing for some time now.

TejasTom
11-21-2011, 11:02 PM
We cut someone already to make room for Demps..... Shilo?

Manning never came off the 53, we knew he would be back.

Dominique Barber was put on IR, that made room for Demps.

Demps will become special teams and rotation safety.

CloakNNNdagger
11-21-2011, 11:06 PM
I'm aware. I'm also aware the Andre has said he's ready to play. Unfortunately, that's not who I am waiting to hear from. I'm waiting for the official report.

Another thing, it's my understanding that Andre has been practicing for some time now.

"Felt good" and practiced on Monday Oct 31, but became too sore by the following Wednesday to practice again.

noxiousdog
11-21-2011, 11:17 PM
So I take it this means Nolan goes back to the bench. My only question is... does Nolan deserve to go back on the bench? We have become the #1 defense since Manning went down. I'm not saying Manning sucks or remotely anything like that... just that... what has Manning done to outclass Nolan at this point in time?

Manning played against a few real offenses.

NitroGSXR
11-21-2011, 11:37 PM
Manning played against a few real offenses.

Real offenses like the Colts?

Rey
11-22-2011, 06:54 AM
Have you seen Nolan do anything extraordinary?

Have you seen kj or glover Quinn do anything extraordinary?

They've been solid. Done what they needed to. Haven't been giving up big plays.

Manning should start, but Nolan has been plus in his absence.

drunkcookie
11-22-2011, 07:21 AM
Yup. I'm still waiting to hear some good news about Andre myself. I am betting he does not play on Sunday either.

Kubiak addressed Dre yesterday...Tweeted by Nick Scurfield yesterday:

" WR Andre Johnson practiced today and should be all systems go this weekend, per Kubiak"


Take from it what you will...

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thunderkyss
11-22-2011, 08:04 AM
Have you seen kj or glover Quinn do anything extraordinary?

They've been solid. Done what they needed to. Haven't been giving up big plays.

Manning should start, but Nolan has been plus in his absence.

I'd have to agree with you on your assesment & reasoning for wanting Allen in the game.. by that account, Demps should see more playing time than Nolan.

Nolan has been "solid" but I wouldn't say a plus.

If I were king, Manning gets his job back, Demps sees more field time, Nolan has to work harder.

Rey
11-22-2011, 08:34 AM
I'd have to agree with you on your assesment & reasoning for wanting Allen in the game.. by that account, Demps should see more playing time than Nolan.

Nolan has been "solid" but I wouldn't say a plus.

If I were king, Manning gets his job back, Demps sees more field time, Nolan has to work harder.

See if I have a lot of talent I would like to figure out a way to get them all involved some way.

Now I know it's tough to get four safeties involed in the game, but GQ also can play some corner. Plus a good rotation keeps guys more fresh. Keeps guys flying to the ball..builds competition...

noxiousdog
11-22-2011, 08:35 AM
Real offenses like the Colts?

Saints, Steelers, and Ravens were all better offenses than what Nolan has seen.

edit: In fact, the Browns, Buccanneers, and Jaguars are the worst three offenses we've seen all year, so Nolan has yet to start against an offense better than anything Manning has seen all year (except the Colts).

NitroGSXR
11-22-2011, 09:59 AM
Saints, Steelers, and Ravens were all better offenses than what Nolan has seen.

edit: In fact, the Browns, Buccanneers, and Jaguars are the worst three offenses we've seen all year, so Nolan has yet to start against an offense better than anything Manning has seen all year (except the Colts).

And we lost 2 of those 3 that you listed. Also, giving up 40 points is a concern no matter how "good" their offense is. It's still 40 points and well-above their scoring average this season.

Listen... I'm not trying to claim Nolan is better than Manning. I'm just asking what he's done to warrant losing his job? For me, this is about upsetting the balance and chemistry of what we have going right now. He probably wouldn't be returning kicks on that gimpy leg so it's important to weight in the value of breaking a clock that is working flawlessly right now.

Hardcore Texan
11-22-2011, 10:21 AM
So I take it this means Nolan goes back to the bench. My only question is... does Nolan deserve to go back on the bench? We have become the #1 defense since Manning went down. I'm not saying Manning sucks or remotely anything like that... just that... what has Manning done to outclass Nolan at this point in time?

IMO, Manning could start on any defense in the league, and Nolan is good depth at this point. Manning is an upgrade over Nolan. Nolan has been serviceable though, and in no way do I want Manning rushed back before he's 100% healthy.

You make a good point point about chemistry, this team seems to keep playing well as a unit, it's cohesiveness I have never seen in Houston. I think we are okay either at this position against Jax. Their offense is unspectacular, I am more concerned about our offense keeping it going with the QB change against a good jaguar defense.

noxiousdog
11-22-2011, 10:40 AM
I'm just asking what he's done to warrant losing his job? For me, this is about upsetting the balance and chemistry of what we have going right now. He probably wouldn't be returning kicks on that gimpy leg so it's important to weight in the value of breaking a clock that is working flawlessly right now.

We have 4 wins with Manning, and 3 wins with Nolan, and Manning has more talent.

It's not like it will keep Nolan off the field. I'm sure they'll work Manning in slowly, and Nolan's on the field in nickle anyway.

There's plenty of time left to compare the two.