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sbalderrama
11-16-2011, 12:17 AM
A huge win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers moves the Houston Texans into the top spot in DVOA for the first time ever this week, just in time for the team to lose their starting quarterback for the season. This would be a good time to remind everyone that the DVOA ratings and the playoff odds report do not account for future injuries. The Texans with Matt Schaub are number one. The Texans with Matt Leinart, well, we're not sure yet.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2011/week-10-dvoa-ratings

TexansFanatic
11-16-2011, 12:21 AM
Wow. Almost like they're just sticking the knife in and twisting it around.

ObsiWan
11-16-2011, 01:39 AM
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2011/week-10-dvoa-ratings

Thanks for posting this. I still don't fully grok DVOA but I like being atop any rating system
:D

michaelm
11-16-2011, 10:33 AM
LOL. At the bottom of the DVOA article, the writer makes the following statement for those readers who are thinking about commenting on the (lack of) accuracy of the DVOA system.

To save people some time, please use the following format for all complaints:
<team> is clearly ranked <too high/too low> because <reason unrelated to DVOA>. <subjective ranking system> is way better than this. <unrelated team-supporting or -denigrating comment, preferably with poor spelling and/or chat-acceptable spelling>

thunderkyss
11-19-2011, 03:32 PM
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvoa-ratings/2011/week-10-dvoa-ratings

Defense-adjusted Value Over Average.

The NFL determines the best players by adding up all their yards no matter what situations they came in or how many plays it took to get them. Now why would they do that? Football has one objective-to get to the end zone-and two ways to achieve that, by gaining yards and getting first downs. These two goals need to be balanced to determine a player's value or a team's performance.All the yards in the world aren't useful if they all come in eight-yard chunks on third-and-10.

I get what they are saying. I don't think I necessarily agree with their method.

But like Thorn said:
:fans:

HJam72
11-20-2011, 06:48 PM
I've been looking at this every week (although I just glance at it) and the one thing it doesn't seem to account for is our strength of schedule, so lately we've really been climbing fast. Of course, IIRC, it was overly critical of us earlier in the year.

PS-I like to look at this too: http://beatgraphs.com/graphs.php?league=NFL&method=I&season=2011&weekid=11

thunderkyss
11-20-2011, 07:30 PM
I've been looking at this every week (although I just glance at it) and the one thing it doesn't seem to account for is our strength of schedule, so lately we've really been climbing fast.


They take the opponent into account on every single play.


I think.

sbalderrama
11-21-2011, 01:16 AM
They take the opponent into account on every single play.
I think.

strength of schedule plays in to all their calculations. Early in the year they use an estimate but as real games are played they adjust it to reality.