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Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 11:27 AM
I didn't get to watch the last two games due to being out of town and on a fishing trip, but I finally got to watch yesterday so I was very eager to watch my team that had been on a winning streak.

They're finally closing teams out early and holding onto two possession leads and stomping on team's throats the way a winning team does. They have to continue with this attitude though. The running game is looking fantastic, and it's going to be very hard to stop this offense when AJ returns.

The biggest and most exciting thing to see though is this defense and how scary they are. They have yet to even hit their full potential with these young guys as well.

And another thing to mention is that the Texans are now doing what they've never been able to do in the past which is to win "despite their injuries." AJ and Mario go down and they're still 7-3. They have found a way to adapt to what they have and make it work with other guys. That is something we've never seen any Texans do when they lost key players and may of us have complained about and criticized them for. Now they're finally playing through those problems and working through it.

Kudos to the team right now. 7-3 is nice!! :fans:


"Edit" I SEE THAT I MADE A TYPO ERROR ON THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. IF ONE OF THE MODS COULD PLEASE FIX THE WORD "STEEPING" TO STEPPING, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANKS.

gary
11-14-2011, 11:46 AM
I am not seeing the usual hate on Gary? What is really going on here?

Grams
11-14-2011, 11:48 AM
I am not seeing the usual hate on Gary? What is really going on here?

Winning

Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 11:57 AM
I am not seeing the usual hate on Gary? What is really going on here?

Why would there be when the Texans have just decisively won the last 3 games?? No one has ever hated on Kubiak just to hate on him because he is a white man or because he has brown hair or because his last name starts with a K. He has been heavily criticized in the past because the Texans have found horrific ways to lose games for 5 straight years and because of a lot of bad decisions. He should have been fired a year or two ago. He wasn't, and he is still here and fans have to deal with that. They're playing very good football right now though and they're decisively beating teams and not finding ways to keep a team around to let them steal a win in the 4th quarter. Why would the HC get criticized when that is happening in a winning streak??

Lady.Gaga.3000
11-14-2011, 11:58 AM
I am not seeing the usual hate on Gary? What is really going on here?

If we lose to Atlanta in three weeks there will be people on this board who will want to fire Gary, again.

b0ng
11-14-2011, 12:07 PM
If we lose to Atlanta in three weeks there will be people on this board who will want to fire Gary, again.

Any loss this will happen.

Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 12:09 PM
If we lose to Atlanta in three weeks there will be people on this board who will want to fire Gary, again.

If they lose in a horrific stupid fascion like they have in multiple games for several years than why wouldn't there be a criticism of coaching if there were coaching blunders existing?? That doesn't mean that everyone would scream to have someone fired in a good season over all. Your post is over the top and it's silly. People have screamed for the coach to be fired because he has had 5 straight unsuccessful seasons, so get back to reality. All HC's catch criticism when they have bad days or make really bad decisions that cost their team games. Did you somehow miss the Saints and Falcons game yesterday?? It was televised out here. Did you miss all of the criticism the Falcons HC got for that awful decision he made that cost his team the game?? He has been a great HC since he has been there, but he still got criticized because that was a coaching error. Drop the over the top comments here. This is a thread to commend how the team is playing and the changes that are taking place currently.

Any loss this will happen.

My last post refers to you as well. This is bullshit. Fans weren't clamoring to have the HC fired in his first two seasons just because of a loss. You've seen a ton of that over the last 3 seasons because of multiple failures that had a lot to do with coaching. If you lose consistently when expectations were pretty high and continue to find ways to lose, than it gets mentioned and talked about. If you start winning decisively on a "consistent basis" than fans don't freak out after every loss because they see more consistency that they can feel confident about going forward. When Kubiak can show long term consistency, than fans won't freak out as much after a bad loss. In his history he has shown a consistency to find a way to lose games, so that's exactly why fans have been eager to want a guy gone when that's been the majority of outcomes in his tenure.

thunderkyss
11-14-2011, 12:46 PM
"Edit" I SEE THAT I MADE A TYPO ERROR ON THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. IF ONE OF THE MODS COULD PLEASE FIX THE WORD "STEEPING" TO STEPPING, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANKS.

Click on "Edit" to edit the post, then click on "Go advanced" to edit the Title.

Thorn
11-14-2011, 12:49 PM
Wait...what? No more steeping on throats? Just when I get the water boiling for the tea. :kubepalm:

thunderkyss
11-14-2011, 12:52 PM
He should have been fired a year or two ago. He wasn't, and he is still here and fans have to deal with that.

I never understood the desire to fire him after our first & only (to date) winning season.

Just to say that tells you where the franchise was.

If you think they underachieved in 2008, then again in 2009, I understand putting him on the hotseat, but to fire him, I'm just not getting it, especially since he delivered a non-losing season & a winning season in those years.

Fire him after 2010, makes sense to me. Not only did they underachieve, not only did they have a losing season, but they fielded a historically poor pass defense.

Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 01:11 PM
I never understood the desire to fire him after our first & only (to date) winning season.

Just to say that tells you where the franchise was.

If you think they underachieved in 2008, then again in 2009, I understand putting him on the hotseat, but to fire him, I'm just not getting it, especially since he delivered a non-losing season & a winning season in those years.

Fire him after 2010, makes sense to me. Not only did they underachieve, not only did they have a losing season, but they fielded a historically poor pass defense.

That was his worst display of coaching in his entire history here. Gary single handily kept the team out of the playoffs by sticking Chris Brown the RB in there to screw 3 games at the end when Brown had done nothing positive in any of those games to get the confidence to "close the game." We also had the kicker lose two games for us and Gary wouldn't even try out new kickers in practice. He just let Kris Brown continue to kick when he was struggling. But the fact that Chris Brown the RB was pushed in during games where he fumbled on the GL like twice and threw a pick to lose 3 games was simply awful coaching that year.

That isn't the point though. Gary didn't get fired and he is still here now. Nothing can be done about that. This was a thread started to commend how the team is playing and you guys that constantly complain about threads involving the HC being fired or not are doing just that and bringing up the discussion to debate all over again. You guys are always complaining when fans are criticizing the team after multiple bad performances, but in reality you guys are whiny at other posters whether they're complimenting the team or whether they're criticizing the team. A huge complaint about this franchise over the years has been about how they couldn't step on a team's throat when they had a decent lead or when they had control of a game, and they're starting to show that now. Let folks celebrate it and enjoy some of the positive things they're seeing that have never been existent with this franchise. They're in a good place for the time being, and that's what's being talked about here.

thunderkyss
11-14-2011, 01:31 PM
This was a thread started to commend how the team is playing and you guys that constantly complain about threads involving the HC being fired or not are doing just that and bringing up the discussion to debate all over again.

Not me.... If you want to discuss it, I'm game. I don't complain about the threads people start.... free country & all.

You guys are always complaining when fans are criticizing the team after multiple bad performances, but in reality you guys are whiny at other posters whether they're complimenting the team or whether they're criticizing the team.

It's really difficult to keep track of individual posters & their pet peeves, I get that.

A huge complaint about this franchise over the years has been about how they couldn't step on a team's throat when they had a decent lead or when they had control of a game, and they're starting to show that now.

Not really. We could have scored 40+ yesterday, but we decided not to. We tried to be as "nice" as we could, the Bucs just gave up.

Let folks celebrate it and enjoy some of the positive things they're seeing that have never been existent with this franchise. They're in a good place for the time being, and that's what's being talked about here.

Why? You guys didn't let me celebrate 9-7, why in the world should I let you celebrate 7-3.

Norg
11-14-2011, 01:37 PM
Meh i dont see it last game we didnt even throw a pass in the 4th qtr

If we get huge leads IMO i wanna see our backups play more IMO like the hole 4th qtr ... Screw it

Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 01:51 PM
Not really. We could have scored 40+ yesterday, but we decided not to. We tried to be as "nice" as we could, the Bucs just gave up.

They didn't need to. They were running the ball down their throats at will to milk the clock which is exactly what they should have done since they made it look so easy.


Why? You guys didn't let me celebrate 9-7, why in the world should I let you celebrate 7-3.

This statement right here seems like confirmation that you'd rather bicker than to enjoy a string of wins that actually mean something when the team is at the top of the AFC instead of a string of wins where a team is just fighting to get to 500 at the end of a failed season. If you can't see the difference there, than please don't respond just to respond and here yourself talk. If you want positive feedback about the team, then don't look for irrational reasons things to argue about regarding the team. The Texans are 7-3 and looking like a dominant team for the first time in their team's history and that's what's being talked about here.

thunderkyss
11-14-2011, 01:56 PM
This statement right here seems like confirmation that you'd rather bicker than to enjoy a string of wins that actually mean something when the team is at the top of the AFC instead of a string of wins where a team is just fighting to get to 500 at the end of a failed season.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/files/2011/11/20111113_TEXANS_BUCS_NdlT_022-306x284.jpg

Wolf
11-14-2011, 02:05 PM
Offensively .the Texans and kubiak are doing what they have been doing all along(well helps to have a healthy Tate), just the defense is pulling its weight now.


Wade should be coach of the year

ObsiWan
11-14-2011, 02:08 PM
Wait...what? No more steeping on throats? Just when I get the water boiling for the tea. :kubepalm:
Riiiiight...
the only tea you ever drink is Long Island Tea
:D

GlassHalfFull
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
I didn't get to watch the last two games due to being out of town and on a fishing trip, but I finally got to watch yesterday so I was very eager to watch my team that had been on a winning streak.

They're finally closing teams out early and holding onto two possession leads and stomping on team's throats the way a winning team does. They have to continue with this attitude though. The running game is looking fantastic, and it's going to be very hard to stop this offense when AJ returns.

The biggest and most exciting thing to see though is this defense and how scary they are. They have yet to even hit their full potential with these young guys as well.

And another thing to mention is that the Texans are now doing what they've never been able to do in the past which is to win "despite their injuries." AJ and Mario go down and they're still 7-3. They have found a way to adapt to what they have and make it work with other guys. That is something we've never seen any Texans do when they lost key players and may of us have complained about and criticized them for. Now they're finally playing through those problems and working through it.

Kudos to the team right now. 7-3 is nice!! :fans:


"Edit" I SEE THAT I MADE A TYPO ERROR ON THE SUBJECT OF THE THREAD. IF ONE OF THE MODS COULD PLEASE FIX THE WORD "STEEPING" TO STEPPING, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANKS.

Nice post Tex. Glad to see you steeping the water for the koolaide - it is much better served hot.

Just a hint, you may have gotten some of the response you got due to your sig.

drs23
11-14-2011, 02:16 PM
They didn't need to. They were running the ball down their throats at will to milk the clock which is exactly what they should have done since they made it look so easy.




This statement right here seems like confirmation that you'd rather bicker than to enjoy a string of wins that actually mean something when the team is at the top of the AFC instead of a string of wins where a team is just fighting to get to 500 at the end of a failed season. If you can't see the difference there, than please don't respond just to respond and here yourself talk. If you want positive feedback about the team, then don't look for irrational reasons things to argue about regarding the team. The Texans are 7-3 and looking like a dominant team for the first time in their team's history and that's what's being talked about here.

I agree. And to top that, Greeney (sp?) on Mike & Mike this a.m. reluctantly (it seemed to me) had to agree with Herm Edwards who cameoed and praised the Texans for being the most complete team in the NFL right now as well as leading the AFC at this time. But then Greeney was butt hurt because his stinkin' Jets had their manginas stomped by the last ranked D in the league last night. I LOVED it!

As an aside, folks around in a bunch of other threads were asking when the Texans would be recongnised and the response was "when they win". Well that's happening now and ALL the heads are talking Texans now. While that's cool and all I think I respect what Bill Cowher had to say the most. On the wrap up show he said the Texans are the most complete team in the NFL, that they have the best running game and when they make the playoffs, they would "be a tough out". Damn, I liked hearing that!

NBT
11-14-2011, 02:23 PM
For Tex: Kubs is what he is, a good offensive coordinator. The secret is that McNair finally got smart enough to take the defensive personnel out of his jurisdiction. But the most improtant thing, as someone already mentioned, was the hiring of Wade Phillips as our DC. And his handling of almost the whole Draft this year, where we got J.J. Watt, and Brooks Reed to go with the personnel we already had on defense. Quite simply the D has gone from next to worst, to first!

houstonspartan
11-14-2011, 02:24 PM
Tex, I co-sign every thing you have written.

It's amazing how so many people don't think we deserve to celebrate because we wanted Kubiak fired. People are nothing "thinking" about the overall issue of the team, and just make it a "Kubiak" issue. I love the team, hate the coach. There is a difference, people.

A smug-ass co-worker asked me a few weeks ago, "So, what do you think about Kubiak NOW?"

I responded that I stand behind my criticisms of him, and I stand behind the fact that I wanted him fired last season. I will not change that.

Also, I repeat what I have said about this season: if we go to the playoffs, the guy should keep his job, but, he should NOT get an extension. He should be forced to work until the end of his current contract. That's fair.

TheCD
11-14-2011, 02:25 PM
If we lose to Atlanta in three weeks there will be people on this board who will want to fire Gary, again.

Wade has been the savior for this team this season. I think the true test will come if/when the defense has an awful game and we lose because of it. Luckily, right now we have the ability to overcome a stagnant performance on either side of the ball, but to the best of my knowledge I can't remember a bad game by the defense. It's been good enough to where the front seven can cover up the back's mistakes, or vise versa.

Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 02:30 PM
Nice post Tex. Glad to see you steeping the water for the koolaide - it is much better served hot.

Just a hint, you may have gotten some of the response you got due to your sig.

Well my opinion on the coach is no secret Glass and that isn't going to change after one big season if that's what we have at the end of the year. I don't like the guy, but this season would definitely be a big jump in the right direction and bad division or not, we're playing good football on both sides of the ball without AJ.

I don't care to debate Kubiak at this point in time though. We have him whether I like it or not, and right now our team is playing well and they're going to be complimented for that. First time in franchise history that we won 4 straight games and they were 4 decisive wins where we appeared to be the better team. :bravo:

Cheers to hoping that we can keep Steeeeeeping on team's throats!!


Tex, I co-sign every thing you have written.

It's amazing how so many people don't think we deserve to celebrate because we wanted Kubiak fired. People are nothing "thinking" about the overall issue of the team, and just make it a "Kubiak" issue. I love the team, hate the coach. There is a difference, people.

A smug-ass co-worker asked me a few weeks ago, "So, what do you think about Kubiak NOW?"

I responded that I stand behind my criticisms of him, and I stand behind the fact that I wanted him fired last season. I will not change that.

Also, I repeat what I have said about this season: if we go to the playoffs, the guy should keep his job, but, he should NOT get an extension. He should be forced to work until the end of his current contract. That's fair.

You got it partner. :toast2:

Hervoyel
11-14-2011, 02:57 PM
The Texans are stepping on teams throats and I don't want to sound too negative but these are the teams you expect them to be able to do that to. Atlanta and Cincinnati are the only two remaining teams with a chance to really test us and by the time we get to Cincinnati they may already have had all the air let out of them.

We're beating the dogs and the dysfunctional teams and YES, absolutely that's good. We need to continue to do this and along the way step on the throat of a team that's not more than willing to go to the floor politely in order for us to do it.

Like I said, I don't want to be bringing the negative. I'm not. I'm as happy as a pig in shit over the way they're playing. I just want to see the next steps play out. Can we win after a layoff and two weeks of getting our ass kissed by the media? Can we then beat a good team at home? Then can we go beat a "pretty good" team on the road?

After this bye the next three games are our final remaining chance to be tested before we get to the playoffs. I think after this the last three are literally a foregone conclusion IF we take care of business against Jacksonville, Atlanta, and Cincinnati. We have to at least get two of the three.

HOU-TEX
11-14-2011, 03:32 PM
The Texans are stepping on teams throats and I don't want to sound too negative but these are the teams you expect them to be able to do that to. Atlanta and Cincinnati are the only two remaining teams with a chance to really test us and by the time we get to Cincinnati they may already have had all the air let out of them.

We're beating the dogs and the dysfunctional teams and YES, absolutely that's good. We need to continue to do this and along the way step on the throat of a team that's not more than willing to go to the floor politely in order for us to do it.

Like I said, I don't want to be bringing the negative. I'm not. I'm as happy as a pig in shit over the way they're playing. I just want to see the next steps play out. Can we win after a layoff and two weeks of getting our ass kissed by the media? Can we then beat a good team at home? Then can we go beat a "pretty good" team on the road?

After this bye the next three games are our final remaining chance to be tested before we get to the playoffs. I think after this the last three are literally a foregone conclusion IF we take care of business against Jacksonville, Atlanta, and Cincinnati. We have to at least get two of the three.

Yep, they have to go on the road and play the Ravens and Steelers before we go to their house.

They play the Browns between the two, but I didn't include them for obvious reasons

Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 03:36 PM
The Texans are stepping on teams throats and I don't want to sound too negative but these are the teams you expect them to be able to do that to. Atlanta and Cincinnati are the only two remaining teams with a chance to really test us and by the time we get to Cincinnati they may already have had all the air let out of them.

We're beating the dogs and the dysfunctional teams and YES, absolutely that's good. We need to continue to do this and along the way step on the throat of a team that's not more than willing to go to the floor politely in order for us to do it.

Like I said, I don't want to be bringing the negative. I'm not. I'm as happy as a pig in shit over the way they're playing. I just want to see the next steps play out. Can we win after a layoff and two weeks of getting our ass kissed by the media? Can we then beat a good team at home? Then can we go beat a "pretty good" team on the road?

After this bye the next three games are our final remaining chance to be tested before we get to the playoffs. I think after this the last three are literally a foregone conclusion IF we take care of business against Jacksonville, Atlanta, and Cincinnati. We have to at least get two of the three.

You're right that we should beat those teams, but in year's past we would always drop one or two of those games or barely win in a very "unconvincing fascion" where we all were left feeling sort of disappointed at the end of the day and not confident going forward. This defense is for real and should only get better though when you consider how young Barwin, Watt, and Reed are. Mario who!!!??? Now we're finally beating teams in a decisive fascion the way we should in some cases and when you look back at the Steelers game, that was a big win to. The Raiders and the Ravens game stunk a little, and seemed more like the past, but with a 4 game winning streak some of us doubters have a little bit more to look at this time around.

WHen has our running game ever looked this good with TWO GUYS??

When have the Texans ever been able to play well after key injuries?? Hell, we lost AJ and we're still kicking ass on offense.

I understand where you're coming from Herv, but we're not going to back into the playoffs. We're stomping our way in.

HOU-TEX
11-14-2011, 03:37 PM
BTW, I noticed the titans have a tough stretch coming up.

@ Falcons
vs Buccaneers
@ Bills
vs Saints

Hopefully they lose at least 3 of those 4.

Trail.Blazr
11-14-2011, 04:26 PM
I never understood the desire to fire him after our first & only (to date) winning season.

Me either!

Signed,

Larry Dierker

thunderkyss
11-14-2011, 05:48 PM
On the bright side, we can stop "wondering" if Kubiak will be back next season. Losing Schaub.. guarantees he'll be back.

Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 06:28 PM
On the bright side, we can stop "wondering" if Kubiak will be back next season. Losing Schaub.. guarantees he'll be back.

Yeah, so there is no need to even debate it at any point now or going into next season. He's coming back. :kubepalm:

thunderkyss
11-14-2011, 06:28 PM
Yeah, so there is no need to even debate it at any point now or going into next season. He's coming back. :kubepalm:

Might as well dump the sig huh?

Texecutioner
11-14-2011, 06:37 PM
Might as well dump the sig huh?

Naaahhh. :shades:

GlassHalfFull
11-14-2011, 07:48 PM
Might as well dump the sig huh?

I have to admit, the sig kinda cracks me up. Anyone but Kubiak.......

so the sig carriers would be happy with:

Jim Zorn
Bobby Petrino
Mike Leach
Kim Kardashian
PeeWee Herman


The list is endless and could get kinda fun.

gary
11-14-2011, 10:31 PM
I was just joking Tex I am very happy with the way the team is playing. GO TEXANS

Corrosion
11-14-2011, 11:09 PM
If we lose to Atlanta in three weeks there will be people on this board who will want to fire Gary, again.

I guess you missed Texecutioners signature ..... :kitten:

AnthonyE
11-14-2011, 11:14 PM
I have to admit, the sig kinda cracks me up. Anyone but Kubiak.......

so the sig carriers would be happy with:

Jim Zorn
Bobby Petrino
Mike Leach
Kim Kardashian
PeeWee Herman


The list is endless and could get kinda fun.

JoePa 2012? or too soon?

76Texan
11-14-2011, 11:23 PM
joepa 2012? Or too soon?

lol!

Corrosion
11-15-2011, 12:10 AM
Wade has been the savior for this team this season. I think the true test will come if/when the defense has an awful game and we lose because of it. Luckily, right now we have the ability to overcome a stagnant performance on either side of the ball, but to the best of my knowledge I can't remember a bad game by the defense. It's been good enough to where the front seven can cover up the back's mistakes, or vise versa.

How many points did they give up in the 4th quarter to the Aints ?!

DexmanC
11-15-2011, 10:31 AM
The Texans look like a team than KNOWS it will win, and is DARING
its opponent to say otherwise. We haven't seen that in a Houston
uniform in almost a generation.

I'm still shocked; but hey, that's life.

DexmanC
11-15-2011, 10:32 AM
How many points did they give up in the 4th quarter to the Aints ?!

It's surprising they've only done that once in 10 games, rather than
10 times in 10 games like they have in previous years.

TheCD
11-15-2011, 11:10 AM
How many points did they give up in the 4th quarter to the Aints ?!


You got me there. At least that was in the beginning of the season. Good time to take their lumps.

ChampionTexan
11-15-2011, 11:41 AM
I have to admit, the sig kinda cracks me up. Anyone but Kubiak.......

so the sig carriers would be happy with:

Jim Zorn
Bobby Petrino
Mike Leach
Kim Kardashian
PeeWee Herman


The list is endless and could get kinda fun.

Bring in Kim Kardashian, and sign on for the 2012 version of Hard Knocks.

I'd watch!