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ATXtexanfan
11-13-2011, 05:20 PM
but what happens when we fall behind. does schaub have it in him? not trying to be negative but sooener or later someone will get a jump on us.

thunderkyss
11-13-2011, 05:24 PM
but what happens when we fall behind. does schaub have it in him? not trying to be negative but sooener or later someone will get a jump on us.

We were behind vs New Orleans & Oakland. I think Schaub looked good if not great in those situations.


At the time, I was upset with him, but after rewatching the games, especially the Oakland game Schaub was balin'

Thorn
11-13-2011, 05:24 PM
but what happens when we fall behind. does schaub have it in him? not trying to be negative but sooener or later someone will get a jump on us.

The Texans have showed us they are a good team and have finally gotten past their demons. I'm not so much worry about a melt down by the team after a loss, but a melt down by the fans in here.

Playmaker
11-13-2011, 05:27 PM
Depends on how far behind we are, the good teams keep it close so they can go for the win in the end. And that's where I have reservations about Schaub. 2 minute offense towards the end of the game needing score to win or tie, Schaub does not have a long resume. And the ones I remember are bad (Ravens last year).

mariowillshine15
11-13-2011, 05:30 PM
Depends on how far behind we are, the good teams keep it close so they can go for the win in the end. And that's where I have reservations about Schaub. 2 minute offense towards the end of the game needing score to win or tie, Schaub does not have a long resume. And the ones I remember are bad (Ravens last year).

You mean the game where he lead us back from a bunch in the 4th?

Yeah he threw the pick six in OT but don't forget the hell of a comeback.

HJam72
11-13-2011, 05:32 PM
Depends on how far behind we are, the good teams keep it close so they can go for the win in the end. And that's where I have reservations about Schaub. 2 minute offense towards the end of the game needing score to win or tie, Schaub does not have a long resume. And the ones I remember are bad (Ravens last year).

You have a ZBS line and Chris Meyers at center. You don't call a pass play and have your QB throwing out of the endzone in OT when your RB could pound it all day from there. That was Kubiak's fault. TERRIBLE PLAY CALL.


TERRIBLE!

I'll throw in that if Schaub hadn't balled in that 4th Qtr. we wouldn't have been in OT in that game.

ThaShark316
11-13-2011, 05:35 PM
I still think the Washington game 2010 Schaub is coming....just not sure when.

Playmaker
11-13-2011, 05:37 PM
Whether you want to pin the blame on Schaub or Kubiak, I still am leery about the 2 minute offense late in the game to win or tie. That's one question mark that's still in my mind.

Allstar
11-13-2011, 05:41 PM
We were behind vs New Orleans & Oakland. I think Schaub looked good if not great in those situations.


At the time, I was upset with him, but after rewatching the games, especially the Oakland game Schaub was balin'

A great performance from your QB in those situations result in W's.

thunderkyss
11-13-2011, 05:44 PM
A great performance from your QB in those situations result in W's.

Somebody has to catch the ball.


Leon can't do everything.

http://images.usatoday.com/money/_photos/2004/09/10/inside2-sports-ads.jpg

Playmaker
11-13-2011, 05:47 PM
I still think the Washington game 2010 Schaub is coming....just not sure when.

You mean the spectacular jump ball that Andre caught? Until I see that on a more consistent basis from Schaub to a different receiver, I'm going to have to say Andre was being Andre on that exchange.

Hey look I'm not asking for the reincarnation of John Elway, and asking Schaub to do the Drive Part III, but seeing is believing and need to see Schaub (and the Texans) be in those game situations more and coming out on top before I remove my doubts.

HJam72
11-13-2011, 05:50 PM
Schaub is no Brady, but I think the D in year's past has made his successes a moot point and he can't make the game winning drive 3 times in the same game. Maybe he will get it done this year and it will count.

BlueSteel
11-13-2011, 05:54 PM
I still think the Washington game 2010 Schaub is coming....just not sure when.

Or the green bay Schaub that led us to a frigid winter win against a solid green bay team. He has plenty if awesome games like the TD run a few years back against Miami. Schaub has played from behind to win games and keep us in games we should have been dominated in.

Either the majority of fans complaining are new to the team and never saw his highlight performances, or they only remember the negative things because they are harder to forget.

Schaub is better than most fans give him credit for.

BlueSteel
11-13-2011, 06:01 PM
A great performance from your QB in those situations result in W's.

Come on now, this is not 1 v 11 here.


Wait until we have Schaub on the field with both Foster and AJ. Just having Manning, Brees, Rogers, or Brady on the field without weapons doesn't mean they would win those games either.

With weapons helping the QB then it is not on one person to win the game.

buddyboy
11-13-2011, 06:05 PM
You mean the spectacular jump ball that Andre caught? Until I see that on a more consistent basis from Schaub to a different receiver, I'm going to have to say Andre was being Andre on that exchange.

Hey look I'm not asking for the reincarnation of John Elway, and asking Schaub to do the Drive Part III, but seeing is believing and need to see Schaub (and the Texans) be in those game situations more and coming out on top before I remove my doubts.

I disagree completely. That play was amazing on BOTH players' parts. Schaub showed pocket awareness and some amazing movement to buy time, and then delivered a perfect pass that ONLY his all-world WR could get.

It makes no sense to discredit the pass based on who he was passing to. If it did, then he should be getting extra credit for making due with the receiving corps we've been working with these last few games with AJ out.

BlueSteel
11-13-2011, 06:11 PM
I disagree completely. That play was amazing on BOTH players' parts. Schaub showed pocket awareness and some amazing movement to buy time, and then delivered a perfect pass that ONLY his all-world WR could get.

It makes no sense to discredit the pass based on who he was passing to. If it did, then he should be getting extra credit for making due with the receiving corps we've been working with these last few games with AJ out.

Then he should have built up plenty of extra credit for 2007 when we had Ron Dayne running the ball for us and Schaub still had an amazing year with AJ out for half the season. All the teams knew we were passing that year and they still couldn't stop him.

Playmaker
11-13-2011, 06:15 PM
I disagree completely. That play was amazing on BOTH players' parts. Schaub showed pocket awareness and some amazing movement to buy time, and then delivered a perfect pass that ONLY his all-world WR could get.

It makes no sense to discredit the pass based on who he was passing to. If it did, then he should be getting extra credit for making due with the receiving corps we've been working with these last few games with AJ out.

Sure I'll give Schaub credit too; 35% to him and 65% to Andre. Any other receiver Schaub throws that pass to it will be incomplete or intercepted.

If you guys are sold on Schaub as your Captain Comeback Kid, then great but excuse me while I still hold reservation.

BlueSteel
11-13-2011, 06:17 PM
Sure I'll give Schaub credit too; 35% to him and 65% to Andre. Any other receiver Schaub throws that pass to it will be incomplete or intercepted.

99% of statistics are totally made up on the spot.

Playmaker
11-13-2011, 06:19 PM
99% of statistics are totally made up on the spot.

You made that up.

80tothezone
11-13-2011, 06:22 PM
Depends on how far behind we are, the good teams keep it close so they can go for the win in the end. And that's where I have reservations about Schaub. 2 minute offense towards the end of the game needing score to win or tie, Schaub does not have a long resume. And the ones I remember are bad (Ravens last year).

schaub did the 2 min O well all last yr..... the D gave it up, that problem has been solved. A healthy AJ back in the mix bodes well for us even if someone does jump out in front of us. Keep in mind dude has thrown for 9000+ yrds in the last two seasons. I really don't get anyone who says schaub is not a good QB or is a potential "weak link". He might not be the best in the nfl but he is more than good enough to help us win in those situations.... THE TEXANS ARE THE MOST COMPLETE TEAM IN THE NFL!!!!!! GO TEXANS!!!! SHAKE DEM HATERS OFF!!!

BlueSteel
11-13-2011, 06:22 PM
You made that up.

Busted. :(

ATXtexanfan
11-13-2011, 06:32 PM
so this wasn't a trip down memory lane but what if matt ryan and the ATL come out firing an we are down by 14 after the first qtr. do you think schaub can elevate his game or are we screwed

Pantherstang84
11-13-2011, 06:36 PM
so this wasn't a trip down memory lane but what if matt ryan and the ATL come out firing an we are down by 14 after the first qtr. do you think schaub can elevate his game or are we screwed

I'm going to go with the flow here and say we are probably screwed.:kubepalm::sarcasm:

Pantherstang84
11-13-2011, 06:38 PM
schaub did the 2 min O well all last yr..... the D gave it up, that problem has been solved. A healthy AJ back in the mix bodes well for us even if someone does jump out in front of us. Keep in mind dude has thrown for 9000+ yrds in the last two seasons. I really don't get anyone who says schaub is not a good QB or is a potential "weak link". He might not be the best in the nfl but he is more than good enough to help us win in those situations.... THE TEXANS ARE THE MOST COMPLETE TEAM IN THE NFL!!!!!! GO TEXANS!!!! SHAKE DEM HATERS OFF!!!

Going to have to rep you here. How about we just enjoy the wins? Lord knows we have been miserable enough after the losses.

Allstar
11-13-2011, 06:39 PM
Somebody has to catch the ball.


Leon can't do everything.

http://images.usatoday.com/money/_photos/2004/09/10/inside2-sports-ads.jpg

I'm not bashing Schaub, I just don't think you can qualify an endgame performance as "great" if we fail to score.

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 06:50 PM
As Texans fans I guess its fair to say now we don't deal with winning or losing well. We're blowing teams out and we still have people complaining.

:kubepalm:

ATXtexanfan
11-13-2011, 06:52 PM
As Texans fans I guess its fair to say now we don't deal with winning or losing well. We're blowing teams out and we still have people complaining.

:kubepalm:

we haven't blown out anyone of note.

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 06:57 PM
we haven't blown out anyone of note.

We've beaten 2 teams with records of .500 when we played them. And any team you blow out is one of note. The Ravens just lost to the Seattle today. This is the NFL, not pee-wee football homie.

ATXtexanfan
11-13-2011, 07:02 PM
We've beaten 2 teams with records of .500 when we played them. And any team you blow out is one of note. The Ravens just lost to the Seattle today. This is the NFL, not pee-wee football homie.

ok so how much you got on us beating balt next time we see them. this ain't pee wee so i expect you to bet your house. we dont play them again unless in the playoffs. you got brady over schaub or are you rolling with matt? not pee wee

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 07:05 PM
ok so how much you got on us beating balt next time we see them. this ain't pee wee so i expect you to bet your house. we dont play them again unless in the playoffs. you got brady over schaub or are you rolling with matt? not pee wee

What are you talking about? You're trying to discount our wins. A win is a win in the NFL. No game is easy to win especially on the road. I'll gladly take our team over any team in the league with the way we're playing right now. Matt's not going to be on the field by himself against Brady or Flacco lil man. You're the worse kind of Texans fan there is.

ATXtexanfan
11-13-2011, 07:12 PM
What are you talking about? You're trying to discount our wins. A win is a win in the NFL. No game is easy to win especially on the road. I'll gladly take our team over any team in the league with the way we're playing right now. Matt's not going to be on the field by himself against Brady or Flacco lil man. You're the worse kind of Texans fan there is.

worse kind of texan fan lol. i got my scars. excuse me for expecting us to win vs tampa. also we got worked vs balt and seattle worked balt so does that mean seattle beats us?

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 07:17 PM
worse kind of texan fan lol. i got my scars. excuse me for expecting us to win vs tampa. also we got worked vs balt and seattle worked balt so does that mean seattle beats us?


We got worked by Baltimore? We had a 4th quarter lead.... They don't make them very bright in Leander I see.

DexmanC
11-13-2011, 07:19 PM
Somebody has to catch the ball.


Leon can't do everything.

http://images.usatoday.com/money/_photos/2004/09/10/inside2-sports-ads.jpg

"Chuck. Let's not go there."

ATXtexanfan
11-13-2011, 07:24 PM
We got worked by Baltimore? We had a 4th quarter lead.... They don't make them very bright in Leander I see.

how much you got on that fourth qtr lead?

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 07:28 PM
how much you got on that fourth qtr lead?

We loss just like every other team has in the NFL this year with the exception of the Packers. Just so you know this isn't college football where we need to win every game to win a championship. Green Bay had 6 losses last year and won the Super Bowl. You're really making yourself look bad here. If you're such a Ravens jock sniffer then go kiss their butts. We're winning ballgames and you're still acting like a little broad. Making Leander so proud right now.

:wadepalm:

ATXtexanfan
11-13-2011, 07:36 PM
We loss just like every other team has in the NFL this year with the exception of the Packers. Just so you know this isn't college football where we need to win every game to win a championship. Green Bay had 6 losses last year and won the Super Bowl. You're really making yourself look bad here. If you're such a Ravens jock sniffer then go kiss their butts. We're winning ballgames and you're still acting like a little broad. Making Leander so proud right now.

:wadepalm:

i dont think we had a fourth qtr lead in balt. check the box score cuz i'm lazy. also when we make the playoffs we will see the like of sanchez, flacco, brady and big ben who all have more playoff wins then schaub. at some point schaub will have to carry us. you can bet your house on him. like that fourth qtr lead at balt. i ain't a hater just watched alot of texan games for no reason

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 07:39 PM
i dont think we had a fourth qtr lead in balt. check the box score cuz i'm lazy. also when we make the playoffs we will see the like of sanchez, flacco, brady and big ben who all have more playoff wins then schaub. at some point schaub will have to carry us. you can bet your house on him. like that fourth qtr lead at balt. i ain't a hater just watched alot of texan games for no reason

Then quit watching then...... The Jets haven't won games because of Sanchez. They won because they had a great running game and a defense. What do the Texans have????? Oh yeah, a great running game and defense. Man I swear fans get dumber and dumber every year.

ATXtexanfan
11-13-2011, 07:49 PM
Then quit watching then...... The Jets haven't won games because of Sanchez. They won because they had a great running game and a defense. What do the Texans have????? Oh yeah, a great running game and defense. Man I swear fans get dumber and dumber every year.

ok so i have bounced around here long enough to know their are plenty of threads on this. i don't like schaub in crisis and everything has been gravy. sooner or later matt will have to step up and i don't like his chances. late

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 07:53 PM
ok so i have bounced around here long enough to know their are plenty of threads on this. i don't like schaub in crisis and everything has been gravy. sooner or later matt will have to step up and i don't like his chances. late

Dude, you used Sanchez to make a comparison..... If you think he's better than Schaub then you're delusional. We have players around him where he doesn't have to be great. I don't think Schaub is the greatest QB either, but he doesn't have to be. Your NFL, or football knowledge period isn't showing to be too great right now, so I'll give you a pass.

Fili
11-13-2011, 09:33 PM
We were behind vs New Orleans & Oakland. I think Schaub looked good if not great in those situations.


At the time, I was upset with him, but after rewatching the games, especially the Oakland game Schaub was balin'

Oakland game would've been 20x easier if 'Dre was in. Our defense has changed over the past games improving in almost everything. We'll see what happens at Jacksonville.

ThaShark316
11-13-2011, 10:15 PM
Hey, sig below me...I'm glad I made you.

Steal Your Face
11-13-2011, 10:45 PM
Some people are just not happy unless there is something to complain about. When all is good ... they have to come up with hypotheticals and imagine scenarios to complain about.

Texanmike02
11-13-2011, 10:58 PM
Lets get one thing straight. In the past the question has not really been was schaub good enough to bring this team back from a deficit, he did that on many occasions. The question was, was the defense bad enough to give the game away in the last 2 minutes after schaub had brought this team back. In the past the answer has always been, yes. The defense was that bad. I give you the Jags, Chargers, Broncos, and the Jets games as examples from last year.

In the Chargers and (especially) the Broncos games, yes the offense stalled but they had put up a lead going into the 4th quarter. The Jets/Jags games Schaub did what you want. He also brought us from behind to beat Washington and lets not forget that in the chargers game he had a chance to make it count and the ball bounced off of Andre's hands, though it was well placed.

Schaub is not Brady, Manning or Rogers but since he has been healthy the QB situation in Houston has been in good hands. It is time to start dealing with the fact that we have a real team in Houston.

Mike

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 11:03 PM
Lets get one thing straight. In the past the question has not really been was schaub good enough to bring this team back from a deficit, he did that on many occasions. The question was, was the defense bad enough to give the game away in the last 2 minutes after schaub had brought this team back. In the past the answer has always been, yes. The defense was that bad. I give you the Jags, Chargers, Broncos, and the Jets games as examples from last year.

In the Chargers and (especially) the Broncos games, yes the offense stalled but they had put up a lead going into the 4th quarter. The Jets/Jags games Schaub did what you want. He also brought us from behind to beat Washington and lets not forget that in the chargers game he had a chance to make it count and the ball bounced off of Andre's hands, though it was well placed.

Schaub is not Brady, Manning or Rogers but since he has been healthy the QB situation in Houston has been in good hands. It is time to start dealing with the fact that we have a real team in Houston.

Mike


You are one of the most annoying people I've ever come across, but you couldn't be more right here! Good job!

Texanmike02
11-13-2011, 11:13 PM
You are one of the most annoying people I've ever come across, but you couldn't be more right here! Good job!

Thanks.

Meh, you caught me on a bad week and it was easy to get under your skin. I'm not as bad as you think tbh. Much more easy to get along with than you've been led to believe. Was just a little early to name yourself most hated poster on the board.

Here's a history: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76731&highlight=jerseys+sale



Mike

Texn4life
11-13-2011, 11:18 PM
Thanks.

Meh, you caught me on a bad week and it was easy to get under your skin. I'm not as bad as you think tbh. Much more easy to get along with than you've been led to believe. Was just a little early to name yourself most hated poster on the board.

Here's a history: http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76731&highlight=jerseys+sale



Mike


You're giving yourself way too much credit little Mikey.

Texanmike02
11-13-2011, 11:21 PM
You're giving yourself way too much credit little Mikey.

Dude. Its a win. We're 7-3. If you don't want to play nice go piss in someone else's sandbox.

Mike

El Tejano
11-14-2011, 04:15 AM
As long as the D has to worry about Foster and Tate, it will be very seldom we are that far behind in a game.