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incubry
11-11-2011, 12:46 PM
As per my previous thread...KGBT-TV CBS in the Rio Grande Valley committed to showing Texans/Bucs game...
Had the options to show cowboy game...

Took a viewer poll to vote on which game to show and THE TEXANS WON THAT POLL BY OVER 200 VOTES and still decided to show the cowboys game anyway!?!?

http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=685475

“Let’s go Texans, let’s go!” chanted at least six demonstrators lined up outside our KGBT-4 studio in Harlingen.

The small group, proudly wearing their Texan jerseys and holding a Texan flag, set-up a sound system equipped with a microphone and four speakers to make their voices heard regarding KGBT-4’s decision to broadcast the Dallas Cowboy game this Sunday instead of the Texan game.

KGBT-4 received hundreds of calls, emails, and Facebook comments this week from both Cowboy and Texan fans demanding their games be shown.

“The overwhelming reaction to Action 4’s decision to air the Dallas Cowboys game on Sunday over the Houston Texans demonstrates the passion and spirit football fans in the Valley hold for their favorite teams” said KGBT President/CEO Tom Keeler.

The demonstrators said they were upset over a poll placed on Action 4’s Facebook page earlier this week.

They said “Texans clearly won, and we are not leaving until the decision is changed” said Kru Kayan Sitsanthaparn.

The final decision was made following lengthy discussions amongst the management team.

“After considerable thought and discussion about previous audience delivery levels, it was decided to broadcast the Cowboys and serve the majority’s viewing interests in the Valley” said Keeler.

The protest about a football game comes as the nation honors those who fought for our freedom on Veterans Day.

However, the group’s leader said “the flag is proudly displaying the freedom that we have.”

The staff welcomed the demonstrated and even purchased them lunch, but the Harlingen Police Department arrived and made them relocate off the frontage road on to KGBT property for safety reasons.

Texan_Bill
11-11-2011, 12:49 PM
All three fans brought a tear to my eye! :cry2:

Seriously though, good for them!!

El Tejano
11-11-2011, 02:10 PM
I'm sure by halftime, Cowboy fans will be wishing they showed The Texans.

Hardcore Texan
11-11-2011, 02:14 PM
Wait, I wasn't there......misleading title!

Way to represent! :texflag:

I'd like to send those guys a free car magnet.

ATRAIN
11-11-2011, 02:14 PM
Someone posted this

"defiant1 said: 45 minutes ago
So let me get this straight- Every sunday, Texans fans faithfully watch channel 4 to see the Texans play. Cowboys fans tune in to Fox...another station. However, this weekend because of scheduling, CBS has both games. Channel 4, in all its wisdom, tells a faithful group of viewers "screw you" they're gonna show something else and accommodate a group of viewers who don't regularly tune in. Jeez thanks, your devotion to your viewers knows no bounds. Well at least we'll be able to see the highlights of the game in 'glorious standard definition' on Action 4 News. Jeez, no wonder you have to buy viewers with "fast cash."
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I couldnt agree more. I would say the same for keye here in Austin but we all in the Austin area already know they are a bunch of jackholes over there. I know Texas is cowgirl terrritory for the most part and at least its not in favor or VY and the TITS but come one. We are doing really well, Cowboys barely beat the Seahawks.

XI CMURDER IX
11-11-2011, 02:14 PM
Screw CBS, they are all in Jerry Jones' pocket anyways!

ATRAIN
11-11-2011, 02:15 PM
Im from the valley and I would say I would be there right now if I still lived there!!!! GO TEXANS!!

houstonspartan
11-11-2011, 02:34 PM
Sigh. I hate to go down this road, but, this is what happens when you accept meidocrity from your coaching staff. I told a buddy of mine two years ago that if Bob McNair didn't start to present a solid team that he would not be able to build a fan base and that he would continue to lose tv markets. And trust me: sports is ALL about television markets.

Now, that's exactly what has happened.

Still, I don't blame them for protesting. The station insulted viewers by having a poll and then going against the results.

midgetonadonkey
11-11-2011, 02:38 PM
I'll just watch the game online. It's not a big deal.

Kthx
11-11-2011, 02:40 PM
Occupy KGBT-4!

Texans style.

All we need is some tuberculosis and prostitutes.

Showtime100
11-11-2011, 05:30 PM
Ooops. I posted in the other thread. Yeah, I've seen this show from CBS before. Give 'em pure Hell, guys.

FirstTexansFan
11-11-2011, 05:37 PM
Sigh. I hate to go down this road, but, this is what happens when you accept meidocrity from your coaching staff. I told a buddy of mine two years ago that if Bob McNair didn't start to present a solid team that he would not be able to build a fan base and that he would continue to lose tv markets. And trust me: sports is ALL about television markets.

Now, that's exactly what has happened.

Still, I don't blame them for protesting. The station insulted viewers by having a poll and then going against the results.

Hard to lose what you never had. I've been dealing with the local network here for more than 9yrs since I retired here from Houston. We don't even get airplay on the local news here when the Cowboys lose and we win. And I don't see that ever changing.

Stemp
11-11-2011, 05:41 PM
When the Texans make a run in the playoff and the Cowboys continue to wither, it will start to change.

If by some miracle the Texans make the SuperBowl, you can bet all the markets will be putting the Texans game as a higher priority in all the TV markets, save Dallas.

imatexan
11-11-2011, 09:02 PM
Sigh. I hate to go down this road, but, this is what happens when you accept meidocrity from your coaching staff. I told a buddy of mine two years ago that if Bob McNair didn't start to present a solid team that he would not be able to build a fan base and that he would continue to lose tv markets. And trust me: sports is ALL about television markets.

Now, that's exactly what has happened.

Still, I don't blame them for protesting. The station insulted viewers by having a poll and then going against the results.


Actually, the opposite happened in this case.

The Texans fans showed up in numbers winning the poll, bombarding the TV station with phone calls and emails. As you could see even a few of them spent hours of their day protesting the decision.

I was very surprised and delighted of the amount of Texans support that came from the Valley! Of course overall the Cowboys have a larger fan following but at this current time I doubt there is much of a difference in the TV ratings in that area between the Cowboys and Texans.I don't have the time to look at the actual numbers right now plus the Nielsen Ratings are BS anyway but thats another story.

DexmanC
11-11-2011, 11:57 PM
The station had no intention of showing the Texans game, and is flat out
SHOCKED at how much support the team actually has.

Scooter
11-12-2011, 12:03 AM
The station had no intention of showing the Texans game, and is flat out
SHOCKED at how much support the team actually has.

yup yup.

"we're going to show the dallas game, but to make it look like we care we'll have a vote that gives us an easy out ..... uh oh"

i hope yall keep the support going and make a big enough stink that they realize where their fanbase really lies.

houstonspartan
11-12-2011, 12:07 AM
The station had no intention of showing the Texans game, and is flat out
SHOCKED at how much support the team actually has.

Yep.

It would be cool if we got the Valley back. There's well over a million people down there, and that's nothing to sneeze at. It's a big market.

MEGA SWATT
11-12-2011, 01:01 AM
That is ridiculous. Give the valley back to mexico. :turtle:

Carr Bombed
11-12-2011, 04:09 AM
Sigh. I hate to go down this road, but, this is what happens when you accept meidocrity from your coaching staff. I told a buddy of mine two years ago that if Bob McNair didn't start to present a solid team that he would not be able to build a fan base and that he would continue to lose tv markets. And trust me: sports is ALL about television markets.

Now, that's exactly what has happened.

Still, I don't blame them for protesting. The station insulted viewers by having a poll and then going against the results.

:vincepalm: their decision to broadast the Cowboys and that demostration doesn't have jack crap to do with McNair's decision to keep Kubiak. What the hell are you talking about? You're reaching at best. There's plenty of stuff that you can heave crap at Kubiak about....this is not one of them. What's next? It didn't rain today and there's a drought in Texas...I guess that's Kubiak's fault as well. Opps, not Kubiak's, but McNair's for keeping Kubiak.

SAMURAITEXAN
11-12-2011, 05:35 AM
I feel so bad for the guys. Just can't believe CBS affiliated station decision to air Cowboys game instead of Texans game. Shame on you CBS KGBT-TV. No wonder this station letter starts from KGB.

Go fans in the valley!!! You guys are great fans!!!

Go Texans!!!

EllisUnit
11-12-2011, 10:28 AM
hTis is why i have been paying for NFL sunday ticket all year, For this one game thats not getting shown :whip:. It was worth it now though :)

bckey
11-12-2011, 12:25 PM
The station had no intention of showing the Texans game, and is flat out
SHOCKED at how much support the team actually has.

QFT. Same goes for here in Corpus Christi. It is an insult to show the Cowboys who are NFC and always on FOX. It should be CBS policy to show Texans to Texans when this kind of scheduling conflict come up. You don't sell out your regular AFC regional team for a FOX regular. What viewers these CBS boneheads think they gain for that 3 hours they lose in the long run by pissing off the regular viewers. Now would FOX ever do this for the Texans if they had the same kind of conflict? No ********* way! What makes it worse is that the Cowgirls have sucked for quite some time but they still get priority in every scheduling conflict since the Texans beginning. I would love to just once see the Cowboys fans having to stream a game on their computer because the Texans were showing on FOX. Sh*t they probably wouldn't know how to stream their game. They would be turning over cars like they did at Penn State.

houstonspartan
11-12-2011, 02:32 PM
:vincepalm: their decision to broadast the Cowboys and that demostration doesn't have jack crap to do with McNair's decision to keep Kubiak. What the hell are you talking about? You're reaching at best. There's plenty of stuff that you can heave crap at Kubiak about....this is not one of them. What's next? It didn't rain today and there's a drought in Texas...I guess that's Kubiak's fault as well. Opps, not Kubiak's, but McNair's for keeping Kubiak.

Wow, someone can't read. Do you speak English?

I didn't say that they decided to specifically not show the Texans because Kubiak was retained.

I said this is what happens when you fail to build your fan base. The Texans have not done so. They have not done so because they have accepted meidocrity for the last several years.

If you don't think television markets are important, you are kidding yourself.

buddyboy
11-12-2011, 03:00 PM
Wow, someone can't read. Do you speak English?

I didn't say that they decided to specifically not show the Texans because Kubiak was retained.

I said this is what happens when you fail to build your fan base. The Texans have not done so. They have not done so because they have accepted meidocrity for the last several years.

If you don't think television markets are important, you are kidding yourself.

Except...the facts contradict you. Texans fans won the polling, so...I guess it's not a fan base problem. If the Texans vs. Cowboys polling was lopsided in favor of the Cowboys, I guess you could make the argument that our fan base has dwindled, and then, if you really wanted, attribute that decline to the Texans FO...

But since the first part of your agenda is false, there's no support to your claims.

bckey
11-12-2011, 03:38 PM
Why would Cowboy fans even vote? They have never been without one of their games being broadcast. It is also rediculous to even think the valley has a larger Texan fan base than Cowboys. Texan fans are more vocal on these kind of things because we are trying to push for new ground. Even in Houston there are hoards of Cowboy fans. Its just the way it is. I hate it but untill the Texans win some championships thats how it is gonna be. I remember when the Patriots were irrelevant. It just takes consistant winning. Heck, the Cowboys still have a huge fan base even after 15 years of crap because of all the winning from the past. I'm telling ya. That is all we need. Not just 1 championship but consistant winning. Mediocre has got to go. Hopefully with Philips that is taking place this season. They have to win in the playoffs not just make it.

houstonspartan
11-12-2011, 03:49 PM
Except...the facts contradict you. Texans fans won the polling, so...I guess it's not a fan base problem. If the Texans vs. Cowboys polling was lopsided in favor of the Cowboys, I guess you could make the argument that our fan base has dwindled, and then, if you really wanted, attribute that decline to the Texans FO...

But since the first part of your agenda is false, there's no support to your claims.

My point is, the managers of the station believe that the Texans don't have a strong fan base. That's the perception: that no one wants to watch the Texans. Yes, we know that's not true. But that's what the station managers believe.

Yes, Texans fans won the polling. But the perception of the managers of the station is that our fan base isn't that big.

PapaL
11-12-2011, 03:50 PM
Now we're occupying CBS? This getting ridiculous hahaha

Carr Bombed
11-12-2011, 05:20 PM
Wow, someone can't read. Do you speak English?

Nope you caught me....I don't speak a lick of English, I only type it.

I'm kinda like this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd0tTl0nxU0

:gun:

I didn't say that they decided to specifically not show the Texans because Kubiak was retained.

Actually that's pretty much exactly what you said...

Sigh. I hate to go down this road, but, this is what happens when you accept mediocrity from your coaching staff. I told a buddy of mine two years ago that if Bob McNair didn't start to present a solid team that he would not be able to build a fan base and that he would continue to lose TV markets. And trust me: sports is ALL about television markets.

Now, that's exactly what has happened.

Still, I don't blame them for protesting. The station insulted viewers by having a poll and then going against the results.

Guess what "not accepting mediocrity from your coaching staff" means, it means Kubiak would've been fired at the end of last season, if not sooner. So if you're going to criticize the man for "accepting mediocrity from his coaching staff", you're criticizing him for not firing Kubiak and then twisting that around to tie it to some protest and a Local network's decision to not air the Texans game. But I only type English so what do I know?

I said this is what happens when you fail to build your fan base. The Texans have not done so. They have not done so because they have accepted mediocrity for the last several years.


The problem is, your argument doesn't make any sense. McNair doesn't have a "fan problem" and he hasn't had any problems "building fan support". His consecutive sellout record can rival any other team in the league, that fan support has also made the Texans one of the most profitable sports franchises on the planet, and like another poster said...THEY WON THE POLL.

If you don't think television markets are important, you are kidding yourself.

When did anybody say TV markets aren't important?

houstonspartan
11-12-2011, 06:51 PM
Nope you caught me....I don't speak a lick of English, I only type it.

I'm kinda like this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd0tTl0nxU0

:gun:



Actually that's pretty much exactly what you said...



Guess what "not accepting mediocrity from your coaching staff" means, it means Kubiak would've been fired at the end of last season, if not sooner. So if you're going to criticize the man for "accepting mediocrity from his coaching staff", you're criticizing him for not firing Kubiak and then twisting that around to tie it to some protest and a Local network's decision to not air the Texans game. But I only type English so what do I know?




The problem is, your argument doesn't make any sense. McNair doesn't have a "fan problem" and he hasn't had any problems "building fan support". His consecutive sellout record can rival any other team in the league, that fan support has also made the Texans one of the most profitable sports franchises on the planet, and like another poster said...THEY WON THE POLL.



When did anybody say TV markets aren't important?

Sweet Jesus.

Of course Reliant has sold out since day one. Of course they have a major fan base in greater Houston. I am speaking to the overall state of Texas. Yes, there are fans all over Texas, but the Texans haven't built a solid fan base yet. However, they are getting there.

The perception is that the Texans aren't as important as the Cowboys. Just ask the managers of that tv station.

Overall, the perception in Texas is that the Texans aren't that important. That perception is because the Texans haven't been that successful. The reason this team hasn't been that successful - meaning W's - is because we have, in the past, accepted mediocre coaching. This isn't brain surgery, here. The saying "perception is reality" holds true in this situation.

Carr Bombed
11-12-2011, 07:28 PM
Sweet Jesus.

Of course Reliant has sold out since day one. Of course they have a major fan base in greater Houston. I am speaking to the overall state of Texas. Yes, there are fans all over Texas, but the Texans haven't built a solid fan base yet. However, they are getting there.

The perception is that the Texans aren't as important as the Cowboys. Just ask the managers of that tv station.

Overall, the perception in Texas is that the Texans aren't that important. That perception is because the Texans haven't been that successful. The reason this team hasn't been that successful - meaning W's - is because we have, in the past, accepted mediocre coaching. This isn't brain surgery, here. The saying "perception is reality" holds true in this situation.

:vincepalm: So you're knocking Bob McNair because his football team which is only 10 years old hasn't surpassed the Dallas Cowboys?

There are about 29 other owners in the league who haven't been able to do the same thing.

EllisUnit
11-12-2011, 07:38 PM
Sweet Jesus.

Of course Reliant has sold out since day one. Of course they have a major fan base in greater Houston. I am speaking to the overall state of Texas. Yes, there are fans all over Texas, but the Texans haven't built a solid fan base yet. However, they are getting there.

The perception is that the Texans aren't as important as the Cowboys. Just ask the managers of that tv station.

Overall, the perception in Texas is that the Texans aren't that important. That perception is because the Texans haven't been that successful. The reason this team hasn't been that successful - meaning W's - is because we have, in the past, accepted mediocre coaching. This isn't brain surgery, here. The saying "perception is reality" holds true in this situation.

Who cares about back then or past seasons. We are the better team this season, so we should get dibs. It dont matter to me i have been paying for NFL sunday ticket all season and this will be the first weekend i have had to use it to watch the texans.

DocBar
11-12-2011, 08:32 PM
Hard to lose what you never had. I've been dealing with the local network here for more than 9yrs since I retired here from Houston. We don't even get airplay on the local news here when the Cowboys lose and we win. And I don't see that ever changing.
The Oilers were never Texas fav's either. If we don;t start winning SB's and begin a winning dynasty, we'll never be able to compete with the Cowpies.

Showtime100
11-12-2011, 09:30 PM
Except...the facts contradict you. Texans fans won the polling, so...I guess it's not a fan base problem. If the Texans vs. Cowboys polling was lopsided in favor of the Cowboys, I guess you could make the argument that our fan base has dwindled, and then, if you really wanted, attribute that decline to the Texans FO...

But since the first part of your agenda is false, there's no support to your claims.

Nosir. If you think that poll is indicative of the ratio in South Texas of Cowboy fans to Texans fans you are incorrect. Texans know they are outnumbered and as you saw they ask for help from their bretheren in other markets.....and we gladly help :toast2:. Cowboy fans, like the local communist (KGB) tv station, know who's going to play on tv so they really don't care that much. The result of that vote was Texans from all over vs Cowboy fans from South Texas.

The Houston Texans don't market the Texans anywhere but Houston, for all intents and purposes.

FirstTexansFan
11-13-2011, 05:00 PM
Well KENS 5 TV here in San Antonio I believe showed the ultimate disrespect to the Texans possible. When the Sowboys game got out of hand, they switched games... to the Steelers and Bengals game :wadepalm:

Of course, I have to admit, it was fun hearing all the Sowboy Fans whine, but the Steelers/Bengals? Come on Man!

HJam72
11-13-2011, 05:08 PM
That Steelers/Bengals game could turn out to be important to us. It already made us #2 in the AFC when we were #3.

All I know is that I am faithful to NO TV station because of this kind of crap over the years. I count on NFL Game Rewind and if the game isn't on TV, it's not on TV. I turned the TV on, saw the Cowboys, turned the TV off. When I heard on the Internet that they went away from the Cowboys, I turned it back on to CBS and turned the volume all the way down. I don't watch much TV anyway, but if I did, I'd boycott CBS until they show the Texans again, and they better be glad this wasn't the last game of the season, LOL...

brakos82
11-13-2011, 05:39 PM
I had to give Seattle's CBS station hell several weeks ago for showing TN/CLE over HOU/PIT, just because Hasselbeck is starting. :facepalm:

2slik4u
11-13-2011, 05:49 PM
I'll just watch the game online. It's not a big deal.

Thank you!

I live in Round Rock and they didnt show the game either but who cares?!?!?!

Go to a bar that has the Sunday ticket and watch it OR watch it online.

You would think someone killed their dog due to the fact that they arent showing the Texan game.

Life is too short to get bent out of shape over stuff like this. Just like you said....."it's not a big deal"