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kiwitexansfan
11-10-2011, 03:48 PM
Offense

QB: M.Schaub
HB: A.Foster
FB: V.Leach
WR: A.Johnson
WR: K.Walter
TE: O.Daniels
LT: D.Brown
LG: C.Pitts
C: C.Myers
RG: M.Brisel
RT: E.Winston

Defense

DE: G.Walker
DT: S.Payne
DE: A.Smith
OLB: M.Williams
MLB: J.Sharper
MLB: D.Ryans
OLB: B.Cushing
CB: J.Joseph
CB: A.Glenn
FS: M.Coleman
SS: D.Manning

Special Teams
K: N.Rackers
P: Hartmann
KR: J.Mathis


My bad on Sharper as an OLB, wasn't sure.

I think if we go 3-4, Mario can stand up and Smith can take the end spot. Sharper can go inside and Cushing can go back to being on the outside.

When Payne is your best ever DT, you know there is a major hole there.

I was also thinking how epically bad our RB situation was pre Arian-Foster, was DD/DW any good really or just the best of a pretty bad bunch.

TEXANRED
11-10-2011, 03:51 PM
I had some free time at work yesterday and was daydreaming about the Texans when I thought I would do a team made up of the best players we have had since the franchise started.

I was shocked how hard it was to come up with quality players at some positions and how dominant this current crop is. Given this maybe I missed some people, feel free to shame my ignorance and drop some knowledge on me.

Offense

QB: Schaub
HB: Foster
FB: Leach
WR: AJ
WR: Walter
TE: Daniels
LT: Brown
LG: Pitts
C: Myers
RG: Brisel
RT: Winston

Defense

DE: Walker
DT: Payne
DT: Okoye
DE: Williams
OLB: Greenwood <------ NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
MLB: Cushing
MLB: Ryans
OLB: Sharper
CB: Joseph
CB: Glenn
FS: Coleman
SS: Manning

Special TeamsK: Rackers
P: Hartmann
KR: Mathis


DT was a huge struggle, did I miss anyone?

Picked 12 defense guys to cover for the 3-4 and 4-3 eras we've had.

You lost me at Greenwood.

Blake
11-10-2011, 03:51 PM
Greenwood and Okoye should not be on there.

Dutchrudder
11-10-2011, 03:54 PM
PR: Jacoby Jones

DE: Mario Williams
OLB: Mario Williams?

:)

TEXANRED
11-10-2011, 03:55 PM
Greenwood and Okoye should not be on there.

Pickings are slim at DT. Robair Smith? Deloach? Charles Hill?

badboy
11-10-2011, 03:56 PM
I really like Coleman but will stick my neck out and say Quin is better. He can also play CB and that adds to his appeal.

kiwitexansfan
11-10-2011, 04:06 PM
Greenwood and Okoye should not be on there.

Tell me who we have had that are better and I will add them.

I considered Cody over Okoye.......

Texan_Bill
11-10-2011, 04:10 PM
I really like Coleman but will stick my neck out and say Quin is better. He can also play CB and that adds to his appeal.

Coleman was a better corner than safety. Problem was he was getting long in the tooth and that's when he converted.

Hardcore Texan
11-10-2011, 04:14 PM
Pickings are slim at DT. Robair Smith? Deloach? Charles Hill?

Tell me who we have had that are better and I will add them.

I considered Cody over Okoye.......

JJ Watt anybody?

I put Diles over Greenwood.

Texan_Bill
11-10-2011, 04:19 PM
I had some free time at work yesterday and was daydreaming about the Texans when I thought I would do a team made up of the best players we have had since the franchise started.

I was shocked how hard it was to come up with quality players at some positions and how dominant this current crop is. Given this maybe I missed some people, feel free to shame my ignorance and drop some knowledge on me.

Offense

QB: Schaub
HB: Foster
FB: Leach
WR: AJ
WR: Walter
TE: Daniels
LT: Brown
LG: Pitts
C: Myers
RG: Brisel
RT: Winston

Defense

DE: Walker
DT: Payne
DT: Okoye
DE: Williams
OLB: Greenwood
MLB: Cushing
MLB: Ryans
OLB: Sharper
CB: Joseph
CB: Glenn
FS: Coleman
SS: Manning

Special TeamsK: Rackers
P: Hartmann
KR: Mathis


DT was a huge struggle, did I miss anyone?

Picked 12 defense guys to cover for the 3-4 and 4-3 eras we've had.

Also, Jamie Sharper was an inside lnside Linebacker alongside Jay Foreman for the Texans. The two outside backers were Kailee Wong and Jeff Posey.

HouSportsWriter
11-10-2011, 04:23 PM
Offense

QB: Schaub agree
HB: Foster agree with Tate close behind
FB: Leach nope hes overrated hes good but Casey is geting the job done along with vickers
WR: AJ no brainer
WR: Walter no brainer
TE: Daniels no brainer
LT: Brown agree
LG: Pitts agree
C: Myers agree even tho hes small he is very good with what he does
RG: Brisel agree
RT: Winston agree

Defense

DE: Walker dont no him so i say smith
DT: Payne dont no him:vincepalm: so mitchel
DT: Okoye Heck no! he could not even make the team this year even though he is biger then cody but he is doing great
DE: Williams agree
OLB: Greenwood barwin here switching from de to olb and rushing the passer got to give some love
MLB: Cushing yes
MLB: Ryans yes
OLB: Sharper reed i do like sharper tho its just after mario went down i though we would miss him greatly but reed filled a giant hole and is producing
CB: Joseph agree
CB: Glenn agree
FS: Coleman agree
SS: Manning agree

Special TeamsK: Rackers im worried that hes a brown clone because he has already missed 30 yard field and others
P: Hartmann agree
KR: Mathis agree



just threw this together so spelling is off will fix later going to hospital with mom great grandma is back in there =[

infantrycak
11-10-2011, 04:25 PM
Yeah JJ Watt should get some consideration.

Sharper played ILB for us so I am not sure why he is listed at OLB. Loved the guy but don't think he was better than either DeMeco or Cushing.

You building a 4-4 defense? Drop Okoye.

Glenn in his prime with Joseph would be a sick tandem.

ObsiWan
11-10-2011, 06:50 PM
Greenwood and Okoye should not be on there.

Pickings are slim at DT. Robaire Smith? Deloach? Charles Hill?

Seth Payne at DT. He was pretty solid. Gary Walker was pretty stout on the D-line too.

Orrrr... you could move Mario to OLB and play Antonio at DE.

Yeah, come to think of it, I like this better. Mario at rushing OLB, Cushing at cover OLB, Sharper and DeMeco as the two ILBs. Put Antonio Smith at DE...

DE: A. Smith
DT: Payne (although, Cody might be a better fit for Wade's D; Wade likes his DTs to be quicker and more disruptive as opposed to stronger)
DE: Walker
OLB: M. Williams
MLB: Sharper
MLB: Ryans
OLB: Cushing
CB: Joseph
CB: Glenn
FS: Coleman
SS: Manning

....anyone willing to take a shot at the backups?

thunderkyss
11-10-2011, 07:01 PM
I was also thinking how epically bad our RB situation was pre Arian-Foster, was DD/DW any good really or just the best of a pretty bad bunch.

I'd love to have been able to see what DD could have done if he ever got to the second level untouched. If he ever could get 4-6 yards before someone touched him.

EllisUnit
11-10-2011, 07:13 PM
Domanick Davis was a very good RB. He could break tackles, and make guys miss. If not for his injury i think he would of been GREAT.

kiwitexansfan
11-10-2011, 08:49 PM
I'd love to have been able to see what DD could have done if he ever got to the second level untouched. If he ever could get 4-6 yards before someone touched him.

Domanick Davis was a very good RB. He could break tackles, and make guys miss. If not for his injury i think he would of been GREAT.

Thanks for the opinions.

I was thinking about Carr and his development the other day, (I think I was the last Carr fan) and I was thinking how bad his supporting cast was.

Bradford, Gaffney, Allen, that OLine with no Boselli...... recipe for disaster anyone?

Playoffs
11-10-2011, 09:57 PM
Native.

EllisUnit
11-10-2011, 11:03 PM
Thanks for the opinions.

I was thinking about Carr and his development the other day, (I think I was the last Carr fan) and I was thinking how bad his supporting cast was.

Bradford, Gaffney, Allen, that OLine with no Boselli...... recipe for disaster anyone?

i actually liked bradford. He wasnt TERRIBLE, and i think Gaffney would of been one hell of a #2 behind AJ

ObsiWan
11-11-2011, 05:15 AM
Thanks for the opinions.

I was thinking about Carr and his development the other day, (I think I was the last Carr fan) and I was thinking how bad his supporting cast was.

Bradford, Gaffney, Allen, that OLine with no Boselli...... recipe for disaster anyone?

You forgot no real offensive coordinator or quality QB coaching. Having seen what former-bust Alex Smith is doing this year with a quality surrounding cast AND a former QB for a head coach (who can actually teach him the position from a 1st hand experience viewpoint), one could almost believe that Carr might have turned out differently if given this system - heavy on the "might" because Carr didn't always show the best work ethic/study habits.

ObsiWan
11-11-2011, 05:19 AM
i actually liked bradford. He wasnt TERRIBLE, and i think Gaffney would of been one hell of a #2 behind AJ

He sure stepped up his game with Tom Brady delivering the ball to him....
Not sure he could block as well as KW does and that's a critical part of the WR job in this offense.

El Tejano
11-11-2011, 07:55 AM
If we make the playoffs, the current roster will be the best Texans ever!

thunderkyss
11-11-2011, 08:45 AM
Thanks for the opinions.

I was thinking about Carr and his development the other day, (I think I was the last Carr fan) and I was thinking how bad his supporting cast was.

Bradford, Gaffney, Allen, that OLine with no Boselli...... recipe for disaster anyone?

Not necessarily.

I remember a game, probably 2006, Eli Manning was sacked 6 times in that one game & still kicked ass. He had no running game, they were down by two or three scores & he led his team to an amazing comeback.

When I watched David Carr in 2002 & 2003, I thought we had the next great dynamic QB. He extended plays, & made things happen.

2004, he was running into sacks, throwing nothing but short passes, not taking chances & letting Andre or Gaffney make a play (if they weren't wide open, he wasn't throwing the ball).

2004, 2005, 2006.... if David Carr got sacked, the next play is going to be a run of some sort. It could be 2nd & 32, we're going to run the ball. Regardless what kind of pass rush was coming, we never put David in the shotgun.

Nah.... the supporting cast around David Carr weren't All-Pro's, but I don't think they were the primary detriment to his development. I attribute that to coaching & David Carr.

HOU-TEX
11-11-2011, 09:01 AM
Offense

QB: Schaub agree
HB: Foster agree with Tate close behind
FB: Leach nope hes overrated hes good but Casey is geting the job done along with vickers
WR: AJ no brainer
WR: Walter no brainer
TE: Daniels no brainer
LT: Brown agree
LG: Pitts agree
C: Myers agree even tho hes small he is very good with what he does
RG: Brisel agree
RT: Winston agree

Defense

DE: Walker dont no him so i say smith
DT: Payne dont no him:vincepalm: so mitchel
DT: Okoye Heck no! he could not even make the team this year even though he is biger then cody but he is doing great
DE: Williams agree
OLB: Greenwood barwin here switching from de to olb and rushing the passer got to give some love
MLB: Cushing yes
MLB: Ryans yes
OLB: Sharper reed i do like sharper tho its just after mario went down i though we would miss him greatly but reed filled a giant hole and is producing
CB: Joseph agree
CB: Glenn agree
FS: Coleman agree
SS: Manning agree

Special TeamsK: Rackers im worried that hes a brown clone because he has already missed 30 yard field and others
P: Hartmann agree
KR: Mathis agree



just threw this together so spelling is off will fix later going to hospital with mom great grandma is back in there =[

Read the whole thread and this comment keeps pullin on me.....WTF? Are you friggin serious with this? How the hell can he be overrated when he WAS the best FB in the league?

Casey? Dude hasn't even been on the field lately and he's already surpassed the best FB in the league? He's more of an H back anyways.

I know you just threw it together, so this was more of a personal rant for letting him go than it was attacking your post.

Hope all goes well with your Grandma. :handshake:

thunderkyss
11-11-2011, 09:05 AM
Casey? Dude hasn't even been on the field lately and he's already surpassed the best FB in the league? He's more of an H back anyways.


Off topic, but if anyone is worried about losing Dressen to FA, don't. Casey will be called a TE if that were to happen & Vickers would start at FB.

Unless Garrett Graham impresses that is.

BigBull17
11-11-2011, 09:12 AM
Off topic, but if anyone is worried about losing Dressen to FA, don't. Casey will be called a TE if that were to happen & Vickers would start at FB.

Unless Garrett Graham impresses that is.

I would make Dreesen an offer now. He is a VERY good TE.

Hardcore Texan
11-11-2011, 01:22 PM
I would make Dreesen an offer now. He is a VERY good TE.

^ This!

HouSportsWriter
11-11-2011, 02:41 PM
Read the whole thread and this comment keeps pullin on me.....WTF? Are you friggin serious with this? How the hell can he be overrated when he WAS the best FB in the league?

Casey? Dude hasn't even been on the field lately and he's already surpassed the best FB in the league? He's more of an H back anyways.

I know you just threw it together, so this was more of a personal rant for letting him go than it was attacking your post.

Hope all goes well with your Grandma. :handshake:

the more and more i think about it i think he IS over rated just because at the beginning of the season every one said ray rice was going to be the number one ranked running back and i agreed with that but with his departure you must admit our run game did not miss a step that is my view and thank you for your prayers:handshake:

p.s. i had to rush once again mom is ready to go back to the hospital so ill try to fix it all later today if i have the time