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BrandonLwowski
11-01-2011, 05:00 PM
Check out this article from nfl.com

I have a man crush on JJ...boy can play

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d823af665/article/no-ordinary-joseph-corner-has-stabilized-houstons-defense?module=HP11_content_stream:fans:

Playoffs
11-01-2011, 05:06 PM
J.Jo is da man.

TheMatrix31
11-01-2011, 05:09 PM
His impact has been unspeakable.

Wish we had Manning the rest of the way. Would love to see how both of them played as Wade's defense ramps up.

IDEXAN
11-01-2011, 06:20 PM
Other players on the defense get more pub, but IMO this guy is the defensive MVP.

Allstar
11-01-2011, 06:46 PM
He has certainly stopped the bleeding in a huge way

Ryan
11-01-2011, 07:01 PM
We haven't had a receiver really have a good/dominant performance against us this season. Brandon Marshall comes to mind, but one of his big catches was against Joseph, but it was perfect coverage, and then on one he made Allen his b*tch, but nothing else i can think of.

Lucky
11-01-2011, 07:44 PM
His impact has been unspeakable.
Well, I speak about it anyway. Joseph is playing at a level that only Revis has surpassed. Flat out, Joseph has been better than Nnamdi. The greatest free agent acquisition in Houston Texan history. OK, it was a low bar to jump over. But, the bar is set very high now.

TheMatrix31
11-01-2011, 07:54 PM
Well, I speak about it anyway. Joseph is playing at a level that only Revis has surpassed. Flat out, Joseph has been better than Nnamdi. The greatest free agent acquisition in Houston Texan history. OK, it was a low bar to jump over. But, the bar is set very high now.

Definitely.

Texecutioner
11-01-2011, 08:05 PM
Well, I speak about it anyway. Joseph is playing at a level that only Revis has surpassed. Flat out, Joseph has been better than Nnamdi. The greatest free agent acquisition in Houston Texan history. OK, it was a low bar to jump over. But, the bar is set very high now.

Yeah, he is definitely the best FA in Houston Texans history. The question is though who would be #2?? Lol!!

TheMatrix31
11-01-2011, 08:08 PM
Well....Foster was an UNDRAFTED free agent....

I know, not the same, lol.

Texan_Bill
11-01-2011, 08:09 PM
YUP!! 1560 Has plenty of Yahoo Sports guys on (Duh, YahooSportsRadio is 1560), but many of them have stated that it was either something like the "most underrated FA signing" and I've even heard "The 'BEST' FA acquisition signing".

Lucky
11-01-2011, 08:11 PM
Yeah, he is definitely the best FA in Houston Texans history. The question is though who would be #2?? Lol!!
Antonio Smith, off the top of my head.

Texan_Bill
11-01-2011, 08:14 PM
Antonio Smith, off the top of my head.

Same here!

Although, Rackers should be mentioned. Oh, nevermind... Kickers aren't players. *dripping in :sarcasm: *

Texecutioner
11-01-2011, 08:31 PM
Antonio Smith, off the top of my head.

Yeah, when I asked the question he was the only guy that stuck out in my mind. No one else really did. I'd have to say Smith as well.

TexansFanatic
11-01-2011, 08:56 PM
I'll admit I was disappointed the Texans didn't get Asomugha, but Joseph was a brilliant signing.

Houston has a shutdown corner!

2slik4u
11-01-2011, 09:08 PM
I was talking to my buddy the other day (DC_TxTech) and he asked me if we could swap for Nnamdi right now at this moment and money was not a factor, would I do it.

I thought about it for a second and I said confidently, "No". The reason being is J-Jo has played and surpassed every expectation that we had. He is finally our lockdown corner that helps us wreak havoc on QB's.

Im not discounting Nnamdi's ability in any way, even though he's had some trouble adjusting to a new defensive scheme. Im saying that we know what we have in J-Jo and he has not disappointed in any facet of his game.

The dude is legit and should be recognized among the top CB's in the game at this point.

TheMatrix31
11-01-2011, 09:11 PM
I probably wouldnt just for age purposes. But for play, as amazing as Joseph's been, Nnamdi is still a better player overall.

2slik4u
11-01-2011, 09:13 PM
I probably wouldnt just for age purposes. But for play, as amazing as Joseph's been, Nnamdi is still a better player overall.

Yeah but would you take the chance in hoping Nnamdi gels in our system even knowing how phenomenal JJ has been playing?

Kind of the old addage (sp.), "a bird the hand is better than two in the bush".

Rey
11-01-2011, 09:14 PM
Yeah, he is definitely the best FA in Houston Texans history. The question is though who would be #2?? Lol!!

Antonio or wade smith.

Antonio most likely but considering the contract and the productivity of wade I could see a good case being made. Wade has been a good steady starter.

TheMatrix31
11-01-2011, 09:26 PM
Yeah but would you take the chance in hoping Nnamdi gels in our system even knowing how phenomenal JJ has been playing?

Kind of the old addage (sp.), "a bird the hand is better than two in the bush".

Eh, yeah, I dunno. I'm sure Nnamdi would be fine in our system, and will be fine in the Eagles' system.

Rey
11-01-2011, 09:27 PM
Yeah but would you take the chance in hoping Nnamdi gels in our system even knowing how phenomenal JJ has been playing?

Kind of the old addage (sp.), "a bird the hand is better than two in the bush".

Before we signed Joseph I said that he had a good chance at being better than aso. Younger, quicker not afraid to bang, excellent speed, ball skills.

He's worth every penny we paid.

Texn4life
11-01-2011, 09:29 PM
Before we signed Joseph I said that he had a good chance at being better than aso. Younger, quicker not afraid to bang, excellent speed, ball skills.

He's worth every penny we paid.

I told some people the same thing when there were rumors out there that we were going after Aso. He's definitely had a much, much bigger impact than the other guy and he's the better value without a doubt.

Texan_Bill
11-01-2011, 09:45 PM
Jo Jo> Nnamdi

Air Canada
11-01-2011, 09:46 PM
I love the way Joseph has played for us and I wouldn't make the change, but I still do believe Nnamdi is a slightly superior corner... Just a specialist when it comes to press man coverage.

Gotta say it's been nice having a true #1 corner... :bravo: Makes me almost forget about KJ.....

almost

fiasco west
11-01-2011, 09:49 PM
I still think Nnamdi is better. With that said look at the age and price difference, that makes Joseph a great acquisition and if he continues to play like this he'll be considered a top CB by the time he's 30 too.

edo783
11-01-2011, 09:49 PM
IMO, it depends on how you use them. Currently ASO is being used in a mostly zone defense, but he excelled in Oakland in a man defense and only on one side of the field. I suspect that if we had ASO, played him strictley man and on the side he likes, he would be a better lockdown than JoJo. However, for overall competence playing man, zone and either side of the field JoJo is the better pick.

Air Canada
11-01-2011, 09:54 PM
IMO, it depends on how you use them. Currently ASO is being used in a mostly zone defense, but he excelled in Oakland in a man defense and only on one side of the field. I suspect that if we had ASO, played him strictley man and on the side he likes, he would be a better lockdown than JoJo. However, for overall competence playing man, zone and either side of the field JoJo is the better pick.

Exactly... Philly wasn't utilizing his strengths earlier in the season and he did struggle a little bit, but in that facet he excels.

TexansFanatic
11-01-2011, 09:55 PM
Dude had two touchdowns called back by penalties against the Steelers.

Don't think Asomugha has had any TDs called back....

Joseph is also ahead of Aso in picks this season---3 to 2.

Just sayin'....

fiasco west
11-01-2011, 10:01 PM
Dude had two touchdowns called back by penalties against the Steelers.

Don't think Asomugha has had any TDs called back....

Joseph is also ahead of Aso in picks this season---3 to 2.

Just sayin'....

Aso's a guy who gets like one pick a year anyways.

BrandonLwowski
11-01-2011, 10:07 PM
I believe that if jj's two touchdowns didnt get called back he would be getting more media attention...screw leach to the beach last year we neoted to gjet joesph to the probowl

JimBaker488
11-01-2011, 10:17 PM
The greatest free agent acquisition in Houston Texan history. OK, it was a low bar to jump over. But, the bar is set very high now.
I agree, but is he the greatest FA value - dollar wise ? 23 mill is a lot of clams.
And I'm wondering, wasn't Foster technically a FA acquisition since he wasn't drafted ?

gary
11-01-2011, 10:26 PM
ASO is just now getting used to a new defense so I think he will be back to normal soon. I am sure Joseph will have the opportunity to be just as good by the time he is thirty.

Lucky
11-01-2011, 10:55 PM
And I'm wondering, wasn't Foster technically a FA acquisition since he wasn't drafted ?
When people (media, fans, etc.) use the term "free agency", they're referring to veteran free agency.

steelbtexan
11-01-2011, 11:25 PM
See BoBBY,

You spend top $$$$ on the best FA's and suddenly you have a winner.

JimBaker488
11-02-2011, 09:39 AM
When people (media, fans, etc.) use the term "free agency", they're referring to veteran free agency.
And when some people are mistaken and have problems about admitting it, they make up their own little rules retroactively.
In Summary: (1) Texans top rookie FA - Arian Foster
(2) Texans top non-rookie FA - Jonathan Joseph
(3) Texans all-time top FA signing. - Arian Foster

Playoffs
11-02-2011, 09:51 AM
J Jo> Nnamdi

I wouldn't go that far, but I'm plenty happy with J Jo and the extra cap room.

Remember Eagles have had Nnamdi in Zone, which is like keeping your Corvette parked in the garage.

IDEXAN
11-02-2011, 09:57 AM
I wouldn't go that far, but I'm plenty happy with J Jo and the extra cap room.

Remember Eagles have had Nnamdi in Zone, which is like keeping your Corvette parked in the garage.
Given that our guy is 3 years junior in age (27 vs 30), I think this is a
debatable point.

Kthx
11-02-2011, 10:17 AM
Hopefully this will be the start of a long career here in Houston, CB for another 4-5 and maybe some Safety after that.

ChampionTexan
11-02-2011, 10:23 AM
While I can't disagree that Joseph is the greatest "veteran" FA acquisition in franchise history, we do have one other veteran that subsequently turned into an All-Pro player.

Vonta probably deserves a mention in this thread above and beyond the minor Leach to the beach comment made earlier.