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Rey
11-01-2011, 09:28 AM
Wouldn't that be a nice looking record heading into the last six games?

7-3... 7-3It's almost hard for me to imagine. 7-3:spin:

I'm a little nervous about both of these games coming up....If either of these teams play well they will be tough outs.

Especially Tampa, in Tampa.

If we can win these next two games and end up 7-3 I will be convinced.

Texn4life
11-01-2011, 09:31 AM
I'm predicting 8-3 heading into the Atlanta game. The Tampa game will be tough, but I think we can win it if we take care of the ball.

Thorn
11-01-2011, 09:32 AM
Honestly, I think we'll be 6-4 at the break. But if we are 7-3, I'll have to start mixing more of the koolaid in my Sunday coffee.

IDEXAN
11-01-2011, 09:32 AM
Perhaps, but only if they first concentrate on being 6-3.

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 09:32 AM
If we can win these next two games and end up 7-3 I will be convinced.

We are 5-3 right now.

If we win the next two games you're going to be convinced that we could be 7-3?

That's really sticking it out there Rey.

Rey
11-01-2011, 09:36 AM
We are 5-3 right now.

If we win the next two games you're going to be convinced that we could be 7-3?

That's really sticking it out there Rey.

What I'm saying is that if we can win the next two games (one at home and one away) against two good opponents that will be 4 wins in a row....

If we can beat Cleveland at home this weekend and then remain focused and determined enough to go into Tampa and beat the Bucs I will be convinced that this team is ready to make make some noise in the play-offs this year and in the future...

Right now, I'm kind of skeptical about when the 'Bad Texans' will show up...

Put it like this...If we can win the next two I will feel more comfortable heading into games from there on out...

Texn4life
11-01-2011, 09:39 AM
What I'm saying is that if we can win the next two games (one at home and one away) against two good opponents that will be 4 wins in a row....

If we can beat Cleveland at home this weekend and then remain focused and determined enough to go into Tampa and beat the Bucs I will be convinced that this team is ready to make make some noise in the play-offs this year and in the future...

Right now, I'm kind of skeptical about when the 'Bad Texans' will show up...

Put it like this...If we can win the next two I will feel more comfortable heading into games from there on out...

Thankfully, halfway through the season the we haven't had a true "Bad Texans" moment where we get demolished for the entire game. Last year against the Cowboys and Giants was embarrassing.

Ghostform
11-01-2011, 09:39 AM
i would never say definitely when it comes to wins for any NFL team this season. I put strong possibility because our schedule is getting softer and Dre should be back soon.

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 09:39 AM
What I'm saying is that if we can win the next two games (one at home and one away) against two good opponents that will be 4 wins in a row....

If we can beat Cleveland at home this weekend and then remain focused and determined enough to go into Tampa and beat the Bucs I will be convinced that this team is ready to make make some noise in the play-offs this year and in the future...

Right now, I'm kind of skeptical about when the 'Bad Texans' will show up...

Put it like this...If we can win the next two I will feel more comfortable heading into games from there on out...

Just having a little fun. :kitten:

Rey
11-01-2011, 09:42 AM
Just having a little fun. :kitten:

:ahhaha:

:handshake:

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 09:43 AM
i would never say definitely when it comes to wins for any NFL team this season. I put strong possibility because our schedule is getting softer and Dre should be back soon.

I voted "strong possibility" as well. There is no doubt in my mind this club will play well in the AFC Championship game this year. I've been thinking that all year.. (That's been my expectation for this team the last 3 years)

Still, after the Oakland game, I threw out making predictions, anticipating scores, or marking up W-Ls before the games.

I have no idea if we're going to finish 9-7 or 13-3, but I'm pretty sure we're going to win the division. I don't know how we're going to get there, & from that stand point I'm just going to enjoy the ride.

speedfreek
11-01-2011, 09:47 AM
This team always finds a way to spit the bit.

7-3, only a slim chance.

I see another raiders-type game coming.

TJ

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 09:49 AM
This team always finds a way to spit the bit.


TJ

So other than that, you think this team should win out the rest of the season?

welsh texan
11-01-2011, 09:57 AM
I voted strongly possible, the team should definitely win the next two games, I'll be dissappointed if they don't.

The thing is that we have now hit November and that is the Texans' cursed month, what is our November record under Kubiak? All I know is that its really bad.

As for the previous statement that we've yet to see the 'bad' Texans for an entire game, that is true, but we've definitely seen the 'bad' Texans for periods throughout games, never long enough to leave us completely out of the running, but they've sure shown themselves on a number of occassions.

The one positive from that is whereas for the last few years, if the D was having a good game, they were simply able to slow the opposition down a little, and it was always up to the O to keep us in the race (and when they failed it was all over) Now, we have a D that has the ability to completely shut down the opposing O until our own gets its act together and puts points on the board.

That gives me hope.

robroy72
11-01-2011, 10:08 AM
Going into tampa is the toughest game out of the remaining schedule, IMHO. If we win that, I'll be very impressed.

robroy72
11-01-2011, 10:10 AM
This team always finds a way to spit the bit.

7-3, only a slim chance.

I see another raiders-type game coming.

TJ

We'll lose to the Browns and then beat Tampa! lol

welsh texan
11-01-2011, 10:18 AM
This team always finds a way to spit the bit.

7-3, only a slim chance.

I see another raiders-type game coming.

TJ
I really feel for you mate, if you honestly feel that bad about this team, why do you bother? I hope you are a WUM because it would be massochistic of you to actually care about this team given your negative outlook.

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 10:21 AM
Going into tampa is the toughest game out of the remaining schedule, IMHO. If we win that, I'll be very impressed.

@Tampa
vs Atlanta
@Cincinnati

three remaining games on our schedule with winning records.

@Jacksonville
vs Carolina
vs Tennessee

These games can go either way.

Cleveland
Indy

Are probably the only "real" "should win" games.

Kthx
11-01-2011, 10:27 AM
Im more worried about Cinci than Tampa really.

speedfreek
11-01-2011, 10:28 AM
10-6, win the division and be competitive in the
first playoff game -- that's what I expect and would
consider a good season.

specially with all of the defensive injuries.

TJ


So other than that, you think this team should win out the rest of the season?

speedfreek
11-01-2011, 10:31 AM
How many 4 game win streaks do the Texans have in
their history?

TJ

I really feel for you mate, if you honestly feel that bad about this team, why do you bother? I hope you are a WUM because it would be massochistic of you to actually care about this team given your negative outlook.

Rey
11-01-2011, 10:35 AM
How many 4 game win streaks do the Texans have in
their history?

TJ

Yeah...That's a good point...

And that, along with the opponents we'll be facing is the reason I will be sold on the team if we could pull it off.

Norg
11-01-2011, 10:46 AM
the only way we beat tampa is if AJ is suited UP

BUTTT !!!! what i would do is Suit AJ up fro the tampa game but dont play him only play him if we need him like in the 4th qtr or something

El Tejano
11-01-2011, 10:47 AM
Perhaps, but only if they first concentrate on being 6-3.

I second that.

TejasTom
11-01-2011, 10:57 AM
How many 4 game win streaks do the Texans have in
their history?

TJ

Twice. 2008 mid season. 2009 last four.

speedfreek
11-01-2011, 11:15 AM
Then, historically, there is a 20% chance of it happening.

Now ask the question, when have they done it when it
actually meant something in terms of a playoff appearance?

If they do it this year, now that it matters, then they have
shown me something.

I'm certainly not putting any money on it - and will just
be pleasantly surprised if it happens.

TJ

Twice. 2008 mid season. 2009 last four.

ObsiWan
11-01-2011, 11:28 AM
Perhaps, but only if they first concentrate on being 6-3.
^^^^
This.
Don't count yer chickens and all that ya know...

For the record, I voted "Not Likely"...
Why?
1) Because Cleveland is a classic trap game. They don't have much on offense, especially if Hillis is still out. But they DO have Josh Cribbs. And it wouldn't be too crazy for Colt McCoy to get lucky and have a career day against our secondary. Okay maybe that would be crazy.

2) if "Good" Tampa shows up we'll have our hands full. They have a very mobile QB and a decent defense. If "Bad" Josh Freeman shows up and turns the ball over multiple times, we probably win.

Anyway, let's get by the Browns before we start worrying about the Buccs.

Rey
11-01-2011, 11:38 AM
^^^^
This.
Don't count yer chickens and all that ya know...

Right...The team should be thinking one game at a time...

But we are just fans...

eriadoc
11-01-2011, 12:07 PM
What is the Texans record in November over the last few years?

MistaRed
11-01-2011, 12:24 PM
I hope we and Atlanta keep winning up until we play. That way we can get flexed into the Sunday night game that week replacing NE/IND

To answer the question though, yes I think we will be 7-3 going into the bye.

Rey
11-01-2011, 12:28 PM
What is the Texans record in November over the last few years?

I don't know exactly what their record is, but during the last broadcast they pretty much said it was piss poor...

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 12:40 PM
I hope we and Atlanta keep winning up until we play. That way we can get flexed into the Sunday night game that week replacing NE/IND

To answer the question though, yes I think we will be 7-3 going into the bye.

I don't want a late night game.... then I'll have to take a day off of work, won't get home till midnight sometime, & I'd rather not.

Double Barrel
11-01-2011, 12:48 PM
Screw it, I'm all in. :koolaid: :texflag:

It's against my cynical nature, but I'm tired of perpetual mediocrity, tired of a decade of futility, tired of waiting for this team to pull it's head out of it's ass.

I think this team is talented enough to compete with any team in the league. It's just coaching decisions and players making plays, which is one of those intangibles that leave things uncertain.

But, as a fan, I'm ready to see a playoff game, I'm ready to see the Texans finally be relevant in the NFL.

I want to believe, so I'm just going to have fun with it.

I'm jumping off that cliff of faith!

http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/7/3/3/1/9/a2379095-28-%5Bgif%5Dsuicide%5Bgif%5D.gif?d=1236189448

welsh texan
11-01-2011, 12:49 PM
I don't know exactly what their record is, but during the last broadcast they pretty much said it was piss poor...

2010 - 1-4
2009 - 1-3
2008 - 1-3
2007 - 2-1
2006 - 1-3

Kubiak in November - 6-14

Last 3 years - 3-10

Big improvement required here, although the only other time we only played 3 in November we went 2-1, which I'd take.

Corrosion
11-01-2011, 12:50 PM
Im more worried about Cinci than Tampa really.

Me too , another top 5 defense with an offense that doesnt make a whole lot of mistakes .... and special teams that can be dangerous. I think its the most difficult game remaining on the schedule.

Tampa and Atlanta have better offenses but their defenses are no where near as good as what the Texans have faced thus far in Baltimore , Pittsburgh and Jax ..... or will face in Cleveland and Cincy.

Tampa being on the road .... I could see a L there but dont expect it. The Texans are a better team than the Buc's. Depends on which offense shows up for the Texans .... the one that laid an egg in Baltimore or the one that pummeled the Tit's into submission.
Atlanta at home I think they should win ..... but they lost to the Raiders at home , tho thats a totally different team now that they lost their QB and mortgaged the future for a guy who wasnt in NFL game shape.

Arky
11-01-2011, 12:50 PM
What is the Texans record in November over the last few years?

welsh texan got it...

disaacks3
11-01-2011, 12:55 PM
Until I see AJ back on the field and the Defense stops losing folks weekly, I'm skeptical of 7-3.

TheMatrix31
11-01-2011, 12:56 PM
Like I give a shit about past November records.

Wade Phillips is the ****ing man.

eriadoc
11-01-2011, 12:58 PM
2010 - 1-4
2009 - 1-3
2008 - 1-3
2007 - 2-1
2006 - 1-3

Kubiak in November - 6-14

Last 3 years - 3-10

Big improvement required here, although the only other time we only played 3 in November we went 2-1, which I'd take.

Well, if I bet the odds, I have to bet against 7-3, so I voted "Not Likely". I can hope, though.

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Until I see AJ back on the field and the Defense stops losing folks weekly, I'm skeptical of 7-3.

Good point.

Before the season started, I said injuries shouldn't be able to save Kubiak's job. I still feel that way, but this is getting ridiculous.

Double Barrel
11-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Like I give a shit about past November records.

Wade Phillips is the ****ing man.

QFT. Wade's D wasn't here in 2010 and before, so I don't find those trends to be of any concern.

The Texans are 3-0 in the AFC South. When has that ever happened? The defense is top 5 and we've got guys making plays. I see no reason to pull the rug on them when they are in control of their own destiny.

This is what being a fan is all about, so I'm not going to rain on my own parade.

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 01:05 PM
Well, if I bet the odds, I have to bet against 7-3, so I voted "Not Likely". I can hope, though.

I hear what you are saying, & not trying to argue. Just wanted a place to drop the line...

Vegas has the Texans by 11 right now.

So if that holds & we beat Cleveland, you're betting that we lose to Tampa on the Road & Jacksonville on the road.

I can see that.

eriadoc
11-01-2011, 01:08 PM
Like I give a shit about past November records.

Wade Phillips is the ****ing man.

QFT. Wade's D wasn't here in 2010 and before, so I don't find those trends to be of any concern.

The Texans are 3-0 in the AFC South. When has that ever happened? The defense is top 5 and we've got guys making plays. I see no reason to pull the rug on them when they are in control of their own destiny.

This is what being a fan is all about, so I'm not going to rain on my own parade.

Wade Phillips is not the one I'm concerned about.

eriadoc
11-01-2011, 01:09 PM
I hear what you are saying, & not trying to argue. Just wanted a place to drop the line...

Vegas has the Texans by 11 right now.

So if that holds & we beat Cleveland, you're betting that we lose to Tampa on the Road & Jacksonville on the road.

I can see that.

I'm just saying that this team is capable of playing games that make you say wow ..... both good and bad. Under Kubiak, if this team were a QB, they'd be Wrecks Grossman.

Grams
11-01-2011, 01:10 PM
There is not a game on the schedule that the Texans should lose.

But there are a lot that the Texans could lose.

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 01:10 PM
QFT. Wade's D wasn't here in 2010 and before, so I don't find those trends to be of any concern.

The Texans are 3-0 in the AFC South. When has that ever happened? The defense is top 5 and we've got guys making plays. I see no reason to pull the rug on them when they are in control of their own destiny.

This is what being a fan is all about, so I'm not going to rain on my own parade.

If you take that into consideration.

& recognize what is going on offensively, Matt playing within himself, & everyone on offense making a play every now & then.... JJ, KDub, OD(x10), Dressen, Arian(x100), Tate, Wade Smith (with the TD), Brown out in space...

Then Aj is still to come back.

I started saving up for a play-off tickets about 3 weeks ago. Now, I've got to consider the possibility of 3 games..

DAMN!!

welsh texan
11-01-2011, 01:11 PM
Good point.

Before the season started, I said injuries shouldn't be able to save Kubiak's job. I still feel that way, but this is getting ridiculous.

Kubiaks had a long enough leash already, it has to be a case of him either getting it done come what may this year or losing his job.

And as much as that may sound negative, I sure as hell hope that 1) Bob McNair feels the same way & 2) That leads to Kubiak still having a job next season.

Double Barrel
11-01-2011, 02:34 PM
Wade Phillips is not the one I'm concerned about.

I agree completely. I'm just hoping to hope because I'm burnt out from being so cynical by this groundhog day franchise.

Being optimistic might bite me on the ass, but I'll cross that bridge if/when I come to it. Hopefully, Gary's 6th year yields some net gains in 'lessons learned', and balanced out with Wade's influence, knowledge, and defense, I guess I'm just hoping that this is finally The Year.

There is not a game on the schedule that the Texans should lose.

But there are a lot that the Texans could lose.

Yep, very well said. It's a balancing act, to be sure, but I figure what the heck. AJ needs to see a playoff game in his career, so why not take the leap and hope this year is his first of many.

If you take that into consideration.

& recognize what is going on offensively, Matt playing within himself, & everyone on offense making a play every now & then.... JJ, KDub, OD(x10), Dressen, Arian(x100), Tate, Wade Smith (with the TD), Brown out in space...

Then Aj is still to come back.

I started saving up for a play-off tickets about 3 weeks ago. Now, I've got to consider the possibility of 3 games..

DAMN!!

lol! I can dig it. I honestly think the Texans could make some noise in the playoffs if our defense continues to trend on it's current course. Playoffs are where great defenses can make all the difference, and I'm really excited about the way these guys are getting after it.

Kubiaks had a long enough leash already, it has to be a case of him either getting it done come what may this year or losing his job.

And as much as that may sound negative, I sure as hell hope that 1) Bob McNair feels the same way & 2) That leads to Kubiak still having a job next season.

I've given up on trying to figure out McNair. I figure Kubiak will be here for awhile, so I'm not going to rant and rave about it. It defies logic and McNair's undying loyalty is beyond most of our comprehension skills.

But, hopefully McNair proves to be right in the long run for all of our sakes.

thunderkyss
11-01-2011, 02:44 PM
I've given up on trying to figure out McNair. I figure Kubiak will be here for awhile, so I'm not going to rant and rave about it. It defies logic and McNair's undying loyalty is beyond most of our comprehension skills.

But, hopefully McNair proves to be right in the long run for all of our sakes.

If I'm McNair, I'm thinking:

I tried an experienced head coach & GM.... that got me 2-14
I tried an inexperienced head coach & inexperienced GM.. that got me 6-10
I'm going to do this shix myself... hire me a DC.. then go from there.... Championship!!

Maddict5
11-01-2011, 02:53 PM
Going into tampa is the toughest game out of the remaining schedule, IMHO. If we win that, I'll be very impressed.

i dont really agree with that. curtis painter and the colts nearly went in there and won on a MNF game (i.e. not a game the bucs would sleep through). we complain about the texans being a 1 half team sometimes but the bucs are a 1 quarter team that only come alive if they're still within reach in the 4th q

Rey
11-08-2011, 08:51 AM
If the Texans can win this game I will be officially sold on them. I feel pretty good about the team right now, but this will put me over the top...

Going on the road against a tough opponent after pretty much walking through a win this past week will take a switching of the mindset. If the Texans can hit that switch and take care of business it will speak volumes as to how far this team has come IMO.

IDEXAN
11-08-2011, 08:56 AM
If they win this game, then once and for all I'm all-in with them. If they don't, then it's just going to confirm my suspicion that the Texans are a mediocre team with a winning-record because they lucked into a real easy schedule in 2011.

welsh texan
11-08-2011, 09:25 AM
I have officially been sold on the Texans this year now, at this stage I'm struggling to see who they're going to lose to, I believe the Bengals are the best team left on the schedule myself but still expect them to beat them.

Personally, I don't see a single team aside from maybe Green Bay that I wouldn't expect them to beat on their day right now.

God this is gonna hurt if they let me down again. :ahhaha:

FR0497
11-08-2011, 11:40 AM
I have officially been sold on the Texans this year now, at this stage I'm struggling to see who they're going to lose to, I believe the Bengals are the best team left on the schedule myself but still expect them to beat them.

Personally, I don't see a single team aside from maybe Green Bay that I wouldn't expect them to beat on their day right now.

God this is gonna hurt if they let me down again. :ahhaha:

Agree, playing Cincy @ their house looks to be the toughest game left. Cam Newton also worries me a bit.

Rey
11-08-2011, 11:41 AM
Shouldve put a cut off date on the poll...Voting now is just cheating...:king:

b0ng
11-08-2011, 11:43 AM
Shouldve put a cut off date on the poll...Voting now is just cheating...:king:

There's still a chance we do not go 7-3 ;)

edit: But boy, talking to Bucs fans, you'd almost think it's an impossibility.

eriadoc
11-08-2011, 11:43 AM
If the Texans can win this game I will be officially sold on them. I feel pretty good about the team right now, but this will put me over the top...

Going on the road against a tough opponent after pretty much walking through a win this past week will take a switching of the mindset. If the Texans can hit that switch and take care of business it will speak volumes as to how far this team has come IMO.

If they win 2 of 3 in the TB, ATL, and CIN games, I'll be sold. I reserve the right to *****, moan, groan, gripe and/or complain about that one loss, though. :D

Rey
11-08-2011, 11:47 AM
There's still a chance we do not go 7-3 ;)


Yeah I know...I was half joking....:specnatz:

Rey
11-08-2011, 11:49 AM
If they win 2 of 3 in the TB, ATL, and CIN games, I'll be sold. I reserve the right to *****, moan, groan, gripe and/or complain about that one loss, though. :D

That would put us at 8-4 right?

Yeah...That'd be pretty sweet too...
:fans:
9-3 would be even better though........:fans::spin:

Dutchrudder
11-08-2011, 11:56 AM
The Buc's aren't that great, a middle of the pack team really. I expect us to win by 10.

eriadoc
11-08-2011, 12:55 PM
The Buc's aren't that great, a middle of the pack team really. I expect us to win by 10.

So are the Raiders.

Calface4
11-08-2011, 01:01 PM
So are the Raiders.

I prefer to believe that we lost to the Raiders because they were inspired by Al Davis' death not because they outplayed us. They are a mid-pack team and on any other week we could have won that game. Call me stubborn but I'm sticking to it.

eriadoc
11-08-2011, 01:12 PM
I prefer to believe that we lost to the Raiders because they were inspired by Al Davis' death not because they outplayed us. They are a mid-pack team and on any other week we could have won that game. Call me stubborn but I'm sticking to it.

The Raiders played a good game, but the Texans blew it. I don't want to take anything away from the Raiders, because they took advantage of the mistakes. That's what you're supposed to do. That is the aspect of the Texans that keeps me from buying that they're going to be a playoff contender.

What I mean by "playoff contender" is not that they'll contend for the playoffs. I think the demise of the Colts cleared any serious obstacle for that. What I mean is: will they contend IN the playoffs? So far, they've played three playoff-caliber teams in the Saints, Steelers, and Ravens. They're 1-2 in those games. The Falcons are a playoff-caliber team, the Bengals are showing that they might be, and the Bucs were last year, and the Texans play at their place.

Win 2 of 3 and that makes them 3-3 against the 6 toughest games on the schedule, which lends credence to the idea that they can compete once they're in the playoffs. Because honestly, beating the Steelers a second time doesn't sound too appealing. Playing the Ravens in the playoffs would be very tough. The Jets seem to have our number. The Pats are always tough, despite their defensive woes. The Texans have not played a very tough schedule to date, so it would be nice to see some quality wins as an indicator for the playoffs. I know, wins are wins, but there is a lot to be learned from how a team plays.

Dutchrudder
11-08-2011, 01:25 PM
So are the Raiders.

The defense shut down McFadden, Campbell was only somewhat effective. If not for Janikowski, we win that game, but he hit 3 really long FGs. Certainly could have gone our way, but things didn't and we lost by 5.

I do think that the Bucs are a much worse team than the Texans. Their losses have mostly come at the hands of strong defenses like the Bears, 49ers and Lions. The Saints held them to 16 points at the Superdome this week, a team that we scored 33 points on in week 3.

So far this year the Tampa Bay offense has not put up more than 26 points in one game, averaging just 18.4 points per game 24th overall. The Texans offense is averaging 26.2 ppg which is good for 6th best in the league. The Buc's D is allowing 24.5 ppg - 23rd overall, and the Texans allow 17.4 ppg 3rd overall.

I'd say we match up well against them as they allow 132.4 rush yards per game, but really their defense is just crap overall and our offense is great. So yeah, 10 point win should be about right IMO.

The Pencil Neck
11-08-2011, 02:02 PM
Shouldve put a cut off date on the poll...Voting now is just cheating...:king:

I have to admit, I didn't see the thread when you originally put it up. So I just voted thinking it was a new thread asking if we thought we were going to beat the Buccs.

Sorry.

Rey
11-08-2011, 02:09 PM
I have to admit, I didn't see the thread when you originally put it up. So I just voted thinking it was a new thread asking if we thought we were going to beat the Buccs.

Sorry.

Na, it's all good...

Most people probably figured the Browns as somewhat of a gimme anyways...

Ole Miss Texan
11-08-2011, 02:22 PM
I think the TB game could be a tough one. They're a good team and it's at their house.

The Bengals seem good, but I'm not completely sold on them yet. The good news for us is that they have 4 straight division games before we go there. 2 against the Steelers and then one each between the Browns and Ravens. @ PIT the weekend before we go to Cincy.

For what its worth: Of our 3 losses, 2 were away and 1 was home. Oakland was actually a pretty solid team when we played them, I thought, though we still should have won. For our away opponents? New Orleans and Baltimore are a combined 8-0 at home so far this season.

Corrosion
11-08-2011, 02:31 PM
The defense shut down McFadden, Campbell was only somewhat effective. If not for Janikowski, we win that game, but he hit 3 really long FGs. Certainly could have gone our way, but things didn't and we lost by 5.


Yeah , the Raiders special teams were the difference - three 50+ yard FG's and ..... that damn fake punt which was the turning point of the game.

Add in the missed FG by Rackers and rather than needing a TD to win a FG would have been enough .... they had the ball on the 5 yard line with 7 seconds to go and the clock stopped. Thats a chip shot.



And who can forget the drop by Vickers which should have been 6 points.


I think TB is a decent team and shouldnt be overlooked or under estimated. They did win 10 games last year even if those wins came against a majority of sub .500 teams.


Playing this one on the road .... its gonna be a tough game to win.

The fact that they give up a lot of yards on the ground is a plus .... but so did the Raiders going into that game.


I think they can win it .... but I dont think I could make them the favorite if I were to put money on it.

HOU-TEX
11-08-2011, 02:37 PM
After comparing the two teams "on paper", we should win. However, knowing our history and struggles on the road...who friggin knows?!

BTW, they've lost Gerald McCoy for the year again with a torn biceps. They have Okam who's turned out to be a decent addition to their team.

Rey
11-08-2011, 02:42 PM
:king:Yeah , the Raiders special teams were the difference - three 50+ yard FG's and ..... that damn fake punt which was the turning point of the game.

Add in the missed FG by Rackers and rather than needing a TD to win a FG would have been enough .... they had the ball on the 5 yard line with 7 seconds to go and the clock stopped. Thats a chip shot.



And who can forget the drop by Vickers which should have been 6 points.


I think TB is a decent team and shouldnt be overlooked or under estimated. They did win 10 games last year even if those wins came against a majority of sub .500 teams.


Playing this one on the road .... its gonna be a tough game to win.

The fact that they give up a lot of yards on the ground is a plus .... but so did the Raiders going into that game.


I think they can win it .... but I dont think I could make them the favorite if I were to put money on it.


Yeah...Lots of stuff went wrong for us/right for them...

Makes one think we were never supposed to win that game no matter how much we think we should have...

:tinfoil: :mcnugget:

thunderkyss
11-08-2011, 03:40 PM
The Raiders played a good game, but the Texans blew it. I don't want to take anything away from the Raiders, because they took advantage of the mistakes. That's what you're supposed to do. That is the aspect of the Texans that keeps me from buying that they're going to be a playoff contender.

I agree, the Raiders played a good game. Take nothing away from them. But the Texans did not play their best game. Losing Mario in the first Qtr.... losing Casey may have something to do with it.. maybe Kubiak featured Casey heavily in the game plan & was lost when he left (can't imagine that)....

But the Texans didn't play their best game.

Win 2 of 3 and that makes them 3-3 against the 6 toughest games on the schedule, which lends credence to the idea that they can compete once they're in the playoffs. Because honestly, beating the Steelers a second time doesn't sound too appealing. Playing the Ravens in the playoffs would be very tough. The Jets seem to have our number. The Pats are always tough, despite their defensive woes. The Texans have not played a very tough schedule to date, so it would be nice to see some quality wins as an indicator for the playoffs. I know, wins are wins, but there is a lot to be learned from how a team plays.

I agree with this more or less. We need some quality wins.

Pittsburgh wasn't playing at the level they are playing now. I wouldn't want to see them again. Baltimore.... I think we had that game, I think we should have won it... but like the Oakland game, we didn't adjust to what was happening well enough that we didn't play well enough.

Not taking anything from the Ravens, but I thought we didn't play as well as we can. They would be lucky not to see us in the play-offs.

fiasco west
11-08-2011, 03:47 PM
The only thing I worry about are the Bucs are sliding. Their coach is a emotional fiery guy...he's going to get the best effort out of them this week and they will be at home...

Otherwise Texans should run all over this team. If McFadden and Rice had some problems running on this defense than Blount will struggle.

Norg
11-08-2011, 04:40 PM
The Raiders played a good game, but the Texans blew it. I don't want to take anything away from the Raiders, because they took advantage of the mistakes. That's what you're supposed to do. That is the aspect of the Texans that keeps me from buying that they're going to be a playoff contender.

What I mean by "playoff contender" is not that they'll contend for the playoffs. I think the demise of the Colts cleared any serious obstacle for that. What I mean is: will they contend IN the playoffs? So far, they've played three playoff-caliber teams in the Saints, Steelers, and Ravens. They're 1-2 in those games. The Falcons are a playoff-caliber team, the Bengals are showing that they might be, and the Bucs were last year, and the Texans play at their place.

Win 2 of 3 and that makes them 3-3 against the 6 toughest games on the schedule, which lends credence to the idea that they can compete once they're in the playoffs. Because honestly, beating the Steelers a second time doesn't sound too appealing. Playing the Ravens in the playoffs would be very tough. The Jets seem to have our number. The Pats are always tough, despite their defensive woes. The Texans have not played a very tough schedule to date, so it would be nice to see some quality wins as an indicator for the playoffs. I know, wins are wins, but there is a lot to be learned from how a team plays.

we almost beat New orleans in da superdome does almost count :koolaid: