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Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 06:20 PM
To all that are doing the wave at Reliant: stop; just stop (especially when we are on offense).
:toropalm:

False Start
10-30-2011, 06:22 PM
Exactly! WTF was that all about? :wadepalm:

Luv_ya_blue
10-30-2011, 06:24 PM
People still do that?

Bwahahahaha!
:overreact:

Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 06:26 PM
Exactly! WTF was that all about? :wadepalm:

People still do that?

Bwahahahaha!
:overreact:

It’s freakin embarrassing.

SouthSideTexan
10-30-2011, 06:33 PM
Who cares.... If someone pays for the ticket....they can do what ever they want. Last time I looked, it wasn't illegal. I didn't see anything wrong with it, it was actually fun to watch and brought back some good memories.

houstonspartan
10-30-2011, 06:34 PM
I was at the game. Pissed me off. Ok, ONE wave around the stadium is ok (I still think it's dumb), but it kept going and going. And, as it got larger, and more people got into it, it got louder and louder. I kept yelling for people to stop.

Texans fans are clueless sometimes, I swear.

houstonspartan
10-30-2011, 06:36 PM
Who cares.... If someone pays for the ticket....they can do what ever they want. Last time I looked, it wasn't illegal. I didn't see anything wrong with it, it was actually fun to watch and brought back some good memories.

Um, the problem is, it got LOUD when we were on offense. You're supposed to be quiet when we're on offense. Get it? Regardless of whether someone pays for the ticket, that's Football 101.

The wave is better suited for baseball, IMO.

Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 06:44 PM
Who cares.... If someone pays for the ticket....they can do what ever they want. Last time I looked, it wasn't illegal. I didn't see anything wrong with it, it was actually fun to watch and brought back some good memories.
Its pretty basic; when the Texans have the ball, the crowd should be quiet. Did you see the false start penalty on the Texans? Do I really need to explain this to you?

TimeKiller
10-30-2011, 06:48 PM
Only fatass people in Houston would oppose standing up for 2 seconds.

If you can't wave, be a sitting down punk then. Don't knock everyone else for having a good time just because you're too insecure to have fun at a football game. That was an awesome wave and if you missed out, I feel embarrassed for you for sitting down and acting like you're better than everyone. And how about posting about it? You know what's better suited for baseball? YOU.

thunderkyss
10-30-2011, 06:51 PM
To all that are doing the wave at Reliant: stop; just stop (especially when we are on offense).
:toropalm:

I was at the game. I know it's wrong to make noise when we're on offense & for the most part, all the fans do as well.

So none of you guys sitting at home, don't be acting like you know your shit & we should be more like you.

If you want to blame anybody for the wave while we're on offense, blame your offense. Usually they do the wave when we are on defense, but nobody wants to miss a snap when the Texans are on defense.

Offense.... the offense needs to do something before they go blaming the fans, we gave them 3 Qtrs, we were getting bored.

:spin:

ObsiWan
10-30-2011, 06:52 PM
Only fatass people in Houston would oppose standing up for 2 seconds.

If you can't wave, be a sitting down punk then. Don't knock everyone else for having a good time just because you're too insecure to have fun at a football game. That was an awesome wave and if you missed out, I feel embarrassed for you for sitting down and acting like you're better than everyone. And how about posting about it? You know what's better suited for baseball? YOU.

I don't think it was the wave in and of itself. It was WHEN the crowd decided to do it. The home team is supposed to make noise when our guys are on defense, not when we're on offense. Wave all you want when THEY have the ball.

Like someone said, that's fandom 101.

houstonspartan
10-30-2011, 06:57 PM
Only fatass people in Houston would oppose standing up for 2 seconds.

If you can't wave, be a sitting down punk then. Don't knock everyone else for having a good time just because you're too insecure to have fun at a football game. That was an awesome wave and if you missed out, I feel embarrassed for you for sitting down and acting like you're better than everyone. And how about posting about it? You know what's better suited for baseball? YOU.

Lol.

Oh trust me, I was standing up and LOUD during most of the game. But, guess what, I was loud when we were on DEFENSE.

When your team has the ball: quiet.
When the other team has the ball: loud.

Why is that so hard for people to understand?

Kimmy
10-30-2011, 06:59 PM
Are y'all telling me that fans in the stands doing the WAVE caused a false start for the Texans?

Damn, we're worse than I thought we were .....

Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 07:00 PM
I was at the game. as was I

I know it's wrong to make noise when we're on offense then don't

So none of you guys sitting at home, don't be acting like you know your shit & we should be more like you.

If you want to blame anybody for the wave while we're on offense, blame your offense. Usually they do the wave when we are on defense, but nobody wants to miss a snap when the Texans are on defense.

Offense.... the offense needs to do something before they go blaming the fans, we gave them 3 Qtrs, we were getting bored.


???

jaayteetx
10-30-2011, 07:02 PM
Only fatass people in Houston would oppose standing up for 2 seconds.

If you can't wave, be a sitting down punk then. Don't knock everyone else for having a good time just because you're too insecure to have fun at a football game. That was an awesome wave and if you missed out, I feel embarrassed for you for sitting down and acting like you're better than everyone. And how about posting about it? You know what's better suited for baseball? YOU.

your right, its the fans perogative, but, in this instance, when the texans are on offense, i have to agree...its stupid.

houstonspartan
10-30-2011, 07:03 PM
Are y'all telling me that fans in the stands doing the WAVE caused a false start for the Texans?

Damn, we're worse than I thought we were .....

Yes, we did.

TimeKiller
10-30-2011, 07:08 PM
Fandom 100

Have some fun.

Fandom 101

If the people around you aren't having fun, who ****ing cares? They're probably too fat to stand up for 2 seconds anyway. You can just tell them to **** themselves later on the message board.

Trust me, I don't care what YOU were doing. Personally, I drank a lot and sat in the sun and when everything but the Texans offense heated up...I could give less of a shit about people who are to stuck up their own asses to get up and scream for no reason. You are the people that need to give up your tickets and stay at home so more of us crazies have room to do whatever the **** we want.

Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 07:08 PM
Only fatass people in Houston would oppose standing up for 2 seconds.

If you can't wave, be a sitting down punk then. Don't knock everyone else for having a good time just because you're too insecure to have fun at a football game. That was an awesome wave and if you missed out, I feel embarrassed for you for sitting down and acting like you're better than everyone. And how about posting about it? You know what's better suited for baseball? YOU.
I guess you just don’t get it. Go to the Texans games and yell your ass off when the home team has the ball.

Kimmy
10-30-2011, 07:11 PM
Did it take out anyone's diet coke?

Yankee_In_TX
10-30-2011, 07:12 PM
When the coaches and players are making the get quiet arm motion (including Schaub who was probably having problems hearing the play the way he held his helmet) and they Scoreboard guys flash 'Quiet - Offense at Work' and the wave continues and gets louder for a few minutes, well, that is asinine.

I think the crowd noise might have had something to do with the flase start and I was yelling at my section to shut the heck up because we were on offense.

Luv_ya_blue
10-30-2011, 07:13 PM
I feel a thread :locked: coming on...

And after a win...who'd have thunk it?

:kitten:

TimeKiller
10-30-2011, 07:20 PM
I guess you just don’t get it. Go to the Texans games and yell your ass off when the home team has the ball.

lol :thisbig: Nice.



Did it take out anyone's diet coke?

No but my feelings were pretty hurt. :thisbig:

When the coaches and players are making the get quiet arm motion (including Schaub who was probably having problems hearing the play the way he held his helmet) and they Scoreboard guys flash 'Quiet - Offense at Work' and the wave continues and gets louder for a few minutes, well, that is asinine.

I think the crowd noise might have had something to do with the flase start and I was yelling at my section to shut the heck up because we were on offense.

Maybe when Schaub or the coaches command enough respect, people will sit down and watch quietly. Until then, enjoy your run run pass punt with a 7 point lead while sitting in a blazing hot sun and thinking you're better than everyone.

I swear to god, this must be all of the 8 people who sat down with their arms crossed.

False Start
10-30-2011, 07:26 PM
I dont care if the crowd wants to do the cabbage patch, just make noise when the other team has the ball.

Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 07:29 PM
I could care less if the crowd wants to do the cabbage patch, just make noise when the other team has the ball.

I know it seems like a really simple concept, I truly don’t understand why it is so hard for some to understand.

houstonspartan
10-30-2011, 07:35 PM
Fandom 100

Have some fun.

Fandom 101

If the people around you aren't having fun, who ****ing cares? They're probably too fat to stand up for 2 seconds anyway. You can just tell them to **** themselves later on the message board.

Trust me, I don't care what YOU were doing. Personally, I drank a lot and sat in the sun and when everything but the Texans offense heated up...I could give less of a shit about people who are to stuck up their own asses to get up and scream for no reason. You are the people that need to give up your tickets and stay at home so more of us crazies have room to do whatever the **** we want.

Did you eat paint chips as a kid?

OzzO
10-30-2011, 07:36 PM
I feel a thread :locked: coming on...

And after a win...who'd have thunk it?

:kitten:

2nd. But hey, if that's all we have to complain about.

Pretty simple - make the noise while your team is on defense... unless you sit in the sun and have paid for your tickets and by golly are showing your offense they only DESERVE to have quiet when they put forth the effort first and are trying to win a game.

Seems pretty simple.
:fingergun:

Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 07:38 PM
Personally, I drank a lot

I guess that’s all that really matters.

Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 07:41 PM
2nd. But hey, if that's all we have to complain about.

Pretty simple - make the noise while your team is on defense... unless you sit in the sun and have paid for your tickets and by golly are showing your offense they only DESERVE to have quiet when they put forth the effort first and are trying to win a game.

Seems pretty simple.
:fingergun:

And you are good and liquored up…….

TxDavid
10-30-2011, 07:42 PM
Only fatass people in Houston would oppose standing up for 2 seconds.

If you can't wave, be a sitting down punk then. Don't knock everyone else for having a good time just because you're too insecure to have fun at a football game. That was an awesome wave and if you missed out, I feel embarrassed for you for sitting down and acting like you're better than everyone. And how about posting about it? You know what's better suited for baseball? YOU.

I stand up for the whole game, not just "two seconds".

And the wave is stupid.

But you know what's worse - making noise on offense. What are you, a Jags fan?

RTP2110
10-30-2011, 07:45 PM
Maybe when Schaub or the coaches command enough respect, people will sit down and watch quietly. Until then, enjoy your run run pass punt with a 7 point lead while sitting in a blazing hot sun and thinking you're better than everyone.


So your point is when the offense is struggling, we should start making all kinds of noise to make it even harder for them? :confused:

Also, the offense scored 24 points and gained 350 yards against a very solid defense. How much more were you really expecting? I'm pretty sure Arena Football season is over.

pissknocker
10-30-2011, 07:45 PM
This thread is worthless. Oh and I did wave too it was pretty cool, although I know feel awful that it pissed so many of u off.

TxDavid
10-30-2011, 07:48 PM
I dont care if the crowd wants to do the cabbage patch, just make noise when the other team has the ball.

This.

I'm with you. Do what ever you want, just don't make noise on offense. We have enough problems winning games without our fans screwing it up.

Nawzer
10-30-2011, 07:54 PM
I heard the noise on tv while the Texans had the ball (I made a couple of comments regarding the noise on the game thread as well) and couldn't understand what all the commotion was about. I thought someone was fighting in the stands or there was a streaker. I don't think I've ever seen a home team's fan do the wave while its offense has the ball! Yes you have the right to do it as long as you paid for the ticket, but the rest of us also have the right to call it dumb. If you were so bored (I don't buy that argument for even a minute) maybe you should have just left the game and did the wave in the parking lot or done it while the Jags had the ball. I was just shocked that the Texans fans were making noise while the offense has the ball. This would never happen in Indy or most other places. Bad form by the fans imo and I hope I never see the wave again while the Texans have the ball.

Runner
10-30-2011, 07:59 PM
... and I was yelling at my section to shut the heck up because we were on offense.

This gave me a chuckle.

============

As for the wave, I don't care. If the crowd cheering at the wrong time is the Texans biggest problem, they are golden.

Speedy
10-30-2011, 08:06 PM
Who cares.... If someone pays for the ticket....they can do what ever they want. Last time I looked, it wasn't illegal. I didn't see anything wrong with it, it was actually fun to watch and brought back some good memories.

No, it's not illegal. If you want to be the dumbest f'ing d-bag on the face of the planet, you certainly have that right.

TheDream34
10-30-2011, 08:16 PM
The wave... way to represent us Houston fans

SheTexan
10-30-2011, 08:58 PM
Football should be fun, and if the "wave" makes folks happy then so be it, just do it at the right time, when we are NOT on offense. SADLY, that was NOT the only time Texan fans got ridiculously loud when our offense was on the field. Some yahoo's in the BULLPEN started a stupid chant, but, it didn't last long. Someone must have shut them up. Just use some common sense, if anyone out there has any this day and age!

TIMEKILLER, this is for you!! TWICE in this thread you referred to FAT people as if we are bugs for you to crush when you feel like it!! I'm taking it personally, and it's really pissing me off!! I am a FATASS, I stand during most of the game, I have respect for our offense when they are on the friggin field, I DO NOT sling beer all over people when I jump up and yell at the wrong time, I am a FAT old lady who has not missed a Houston Texans home game, and I'm sick of your insults. I will tell you this also!! I would rather sit/stand by a FAT person than a DRUNK anyday!!

Luv_ya_blue
10-30-2011, 09:01 PM
Football should be fun, and if the "wave" makes folks happy then so be it, just do it at the right time, when we are NOT on offense. SADLY, that was NOT the only time Texan fans got ridiculously loud when our offense was on the field. Some yahoo's in the BULLPEN started a stupid chant, but, it didn't last long. Someone must have shut them up. Just use some common sense, if anyone out there has any this day and age!

TIMEKILLER, this is for you!! TWICE in this thread you referred to FAT people as if we are bugs for you to crush when you feel like it!! I'm taking it personally, and it's really pissing me off!! I am a FATASS, I stand during most of the game, I have respect for our offense when they are on the friggin field, I DO NOT sling beer all over people when I jump up and yell at the wrong time, I am a FAT old lady who has not missed a Houston Texans home game, and I'm sick of your insults. I will tell you this also!! I would rather sit/stand by a FAT person than a DRUNK anyday!!

Well said SheTex!

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Khari
10-30-2011, 09:05 PM
one wave....ok maybe fun...

by the time it came around a 3rd or 4th time I'm like WTF are you people doing?

:spy:

Kaiser Toro
10-30-2011, 09:14 PM
Lame thread, lame wave, but
when the offense is at work
only yell First Down

houstonspartan
10-30-2011, 09:27 PM
one wave....ok maybe fun...

by the time it came around a 3rd or 4th time I'm like WTF are you people doing?

:spy:

Yup. The first time, it was annoying, but I ignored it. But it kept going and getting louder and louder. And we were on a serious offensive drive at that time.

GlassHalfFull
10-30-2011, 09:37 PM
Yup. The first time, it was annoying, but I ignored it. But it kept going and getting louder and louder. And we were on a serious offensive drive at that time.

I was pissed about the wave also. It is amazing to me that fans on the message board would be calling out fans for not participating in making noise while our offense is on the field.

LonerATO
10-30-2011, 09:51 PM
I was at the game. Pissed me off. Ok, ONE wave around the stadium is ok (I still think it's dumb), but it kept going and going. And, as it got larger, and more people got into it, it got louder and louder. I kept yelling for people to stop.

Texans fans are clueless sometimes, I swear.

It did get annoying when people kept it going four times around the stadium.

silvrhand
10-30-2011, 09:55 PM
I guess the Texans are going to blame the wave for the ben tate fumble too.. It wasn't that loud in the stadium.. what's wrong with eating some paint chips once in a while?

:spin:

badboy
10-30-2011, 10:02 PM
I always try to get a Wave going in church, sorta frustrates the pastor but not as much as when I do the Macarena to Amazing Grace. I mean look what got Billy Cyrus his 15 minutes of fame.

Kimmy
10-30-2011, 10:02 PM
That stupid graphic doesn't work. In fact, when we have an opposition heavy stadium (Steelers, Cowboys, Saints, etc) it actually ENCOURAGES them to be loud (as I wrote in another post).

I had long left the game before the wave, but had I been there, I probably would have done it. You can do the wave without making noise.

And from what I heard on the radio, it took them almost the whole quarter to get it right.

Lastly; maybe we should start really practicing this wave thing. If it can make our team false start, IMAGINE what it could to the visiting one? :sarcasm:

Getting this upset at "the wave" is kinda silly.

The Pencil Neck
10-30-2011, 10:10 PM
That stupid graphic doesn't work. In fact, when we have an opposition heavy stadium (Steelers, Cowboys, Saints, etc) it actually ENCOURAGES them to be loud (as I wrote in another post).

I had long left the game before the wave, but had I been there, I probably would have done it. You can do the wave without making noise.

And from what I heard on the radio, it took them almost the whole quarter to get it right.

Lastly; maybe we should start really practicing this wave thing. If it can make our team false start, IMAGINE what it could to the visiting one? :sarcasm:

Getting this upset at "the wave" is kinda silly.

Actually, if you'll pay a little attention, it never encourages the fans to be loud when we have the ball. They put up a "Shhhh.. Offense at work." sign telling everyone to STFU.

You get loud when the opponent has the ball and you get quiet when our offense has the ball.

If you get loud when our team has the ball, you're screwing up. Plain and simple.

Kimmy
10-30-2011, 10:16 PM
That stupid graphic doesn't work. In fact, when we have an opposition heavy stadium (Steelers, Cowboys, Saints, etc) it actually ENCOURAGES them to be loud (as I wrote in another post).

I had long left the game before the wave, but had I been there, I probably would have done it. You can do the wave without making noise.

And from what I heard on the radio, it took them almost the whole quarter to get it right.

Lastly; maybe we should start really practicing this wave thing. If it can make our team false start, IMAGINE what it could to the visiting one? :sarcasm:

Getting this upset at "the wave" is kinda silly.

Actually, if you'll pay a little attention, it never encourages the fans to be loud when we have the ball. They put up a "Shhhh.. Offense at work." sign telling everyone to STFU.

You get loud when the opponent has the ball and you get quiet when our offense has the ball.

If you get loud when our team has the ball, you're screwing up. Plain and simple.

I tried to spell it out for you above, bolded and in red. If you need any more help understanding, shoot me a PM :)

Lucky
10-30-2011, 10:21 PM
what's wrong with eating some paint chips once in a while?

In related news, Aramark will now offer paint chips for $6.50. Chocolate or cinnamon sprinkles optional.

False Start
10-30-2011, 10:25 PM
Instead of "offense at work", they should just throw this up: http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/crazyeyes8.png and add something like "Crazy Eyes Schaub does not approve." :heh:

Kimmy
10-30-2011, 10:32 PM
Instead of "offense at work", they should just throw this up: http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/crazyeyes8.png and add something like "Crazy Eyes Schaub does not approve." :heh:

I approve of this. Also add some lasers coming out of his eyes shooting down bad fans LOL

silvrhand
10-30-2011, 10:33 PM
I approve of this. Also add some lasers coming out of his eyes shooting down bad fans LOL

Lol.. that would be kind of funny.

SouthSideTexan
10-30-2011, 11:00 PM
Um, the problem is, it got LOUD when we were on offense. You're supposed to be quiet when we're on offense. Get it? Regardless of whether someone pays for the ticket, that's Football 101.

The wave is better suited for baseball, IMO.

Give me $320 a game and I'll agree with you 100%. Until then I'm gonna do what ever I want. That's life 101... Get over it.

thunderkyss
10-30-2011, 11:07 PM
Give me $320 a game and I'll agree with you 100%. Until then I'm gonna do what ever I want. That's life 101... Get over it.

They were going to run the ball. Whether it was 1st & 10, 1st & 15, 1st & 25, they were going to run the ball.

That's why no one gave a shit about watching the game. I'm like you (well, I didn't spend $320 to watch the game :embarassed:) but if I think doing the wave is a better use of my $150, then I'm doing the wave.

Hell, I had half a mind to go smoke a cigarette while the offense was on the field, but the wave kept me in my seat... sort of.

houstonspartan
10-30-2011, 11:37 PM
Give me $320 a game and I'll agree with you 100%. Until then I'm gonna do what ever I want. That's life 101... Get over it.

Oh, no one said you didn't have the right to do whatever you wanted. This is America. Do as you wish. We also have the right to call you a moron for screaming while the home team has the ball.

Therefore: you are a moron.

Heath Shuler
10-30-2011, 11:59 PM
Give me $320 a game and I'll agree with you 100%. Until then I'm gonna do what ever I want. That's life 101... Get over it.

You are absolutely correct; it is your money, you can do what ever you want. I guess if you wanted you could soak your ass in gasoline and set yourself on fire, but please do it when the home team is on defense.


:fans:

Norg
10-31-2011, 12:05 AM
TBO sometimes our offensive prob needs so noise i think when it qets to quite the acctually start to suck and get to nervous ya know the

RUN RUN PASS PUNT

yeah that happend like 15 times today LOL

Maybe a little noise for our offensive in the future is needed LOL

Sway
10-31-2011, 12:10 AM
We were there, took part in the wave ( my first one ever... yeah its pathetic at 30) but didn't make a ruckus out of it... Also stood up the whole game anyway. Was more than annoyed and bothered by our innept passing game, but hey- we JUST got home. Most of ya'll have been home since 5:00. The drive SUX but we do what we must to support our team, and dammit, if a wave comes around and we're almost sure of a win, then fine. But yes it was very ill timed. Should've waited until the 2:00 warning or less... eh, oh well. It's a W on our schedule last I checked.

TexansBull
10-31-2011, 12:20 AM
Lombardi got it half right. Our fanbase is soft. But it will get better as we win big. I think there are die hard fans here, and know to be quiet on offense, but the majority of houston probably aren't familar with football fan rule 101: be quiet when you team has the ball.

I don't have a problem with anyone doing the wave when our team has the ball. Just be quiet when you do it if our team has the ball. If you can't, don't do it then. Pretty simple.

Most people don't know what it is like to grow up watching a team and learn the inherit rules. Those years we didn't have football set back the city's football IQ. We finally have a generation of fans that have grown up watching the texans, and it has been painful, but none the less that produces die hard fans that will know what to do at the stadium to give us real home field advantage.

But if this is the thread that has the most comments we must have won the game because there are no fire kubiak, hire cowher, get rid of schaub threads...

Texn4life
10-31-2011, 12:58 AM
Put me down as one of the people who hate the wave...... I've never liked it to be honest with you. People have a right to entertain themselves however they want to when I attend a game with them, but it doesn't mean I have to participate or like it. And it also doesn't mean I'm lesser of a fan if I don't want to participate. It's outdated and wack in my opinion. And this is only my opinion.

Norg
10-31-2011, 01:54 AM
Bottom line is the Offensive was playing crap for 3 qts it was bound to happen the fan knew being quite or loud the Offensive was going to suck anywayz

Texn4life
10-31-2011, 01:59 AM
Bottom line is the Offensive was playing crap for 3 qts it was bound to happen the fan knew being quite or loud the Offensive was going to suck anywayz

I have no idea what you're trying to get at right here, but ok.

rush2112mn
10-31-2011, 03:06 AM
Who cares.... If someone pays for the ticket....they can do what ever they want. Last time I looked, it wasn't illegal. I didn't see anything wrong with it, it was actually fun to watch and brought back some good memories.

Hello....your team is on offense.....they want it quiet to call plays...and you want to make noise and disrupt them.....quiet...that is what they need when they are calling plays...not a bunch of people standing up screaming.....
I bet the jags fans were laughing at us.....I bet anyone watching on tv who was not a Texan fans was laughing at us......
I never liked the wave in the first place....I think it is dumb if you ask me.....

Hurt our team that is what it did....the offense needs it quiet.....you playing it difficult for your own qb to call a play and your offensive line to hear it.....cmon people......wake up.....that was just plain dumb.....

and so 80s......:toropalm::hairpull::loser

bah007
10-31-2011, 03:10 AM
I think the wave is stupid, but I do agree that fans (who pay a ransom to attend games) should get to cheer however they want.

However, if the wave is more interesting to you than the football game (which our team was winning, btw) then maybe you would be better off just watching from home and saving your money. You can do the wave at home for free.

kiwitexansfan
10-31-2011, 03:27 AM
Texans fans are clueless sometimes, I swear.

From my one trip there, I gotta say that the football IQ seemed pretty low, compared to Huskers fan.

zanth91
10-31-2011, 04:10 AM
The wave was no louder than whenever our offense lines up to go for it on 4th down. We're complaining about a wave that really wasn't even that loud and when we're up 21-7 in the 4th? Okay...

Maddict5
10-31-2011, 06:49 AM
i think this thread is another indicator of how the texans as a fanbase kinda sucks. fair play to aj for saying it in his piece because its a bit taboo.

yeah you pay your money so you can do what you want but theres plenty of ppl around the country doing the same and not doing dumb shit just because the offence is 'boring' (21 pts thru 3 q's against a very good D) :rolleyes:

the team is winning and yet the crowd is still coming in late, leaving early etc so there goes that 'we're sick of losing' excuse thats been clung to by so many

Tedc
10-31-2011, 07:07 AM
:toropalm:

sakebomb
10-31-2011, 07:13 AM
We need to "occupy" Reliant to picket the wave (while the team is on offense anyway).

Craig.
10-31-2011, 07:38 AM
I don't know which is lamer - the wave or the one guy in the section that turns around to the crowd waving his arms as if to suggest get out of your seat and get loud.

Señor Stan
10-31-2011, 07:40 AM
So, if you are in the Bullpen, are you supposed to sit down as the wave goes by? Just wondering...

Texn4life
10-31-2011, 07:41 AM
I don't know which is lamer - the wave or the one guy in the section that turns around to the crowd waving his arms as if to suggest get out of your seat and get loud.

This one is easy........ the wave!!!!! If it was possible for me to take it out to the back and shoot it I would.

NitroGSXR
10-31-2011, 08:01 AM
I don't know which is lamer - the wave or the one guy in the section that turns around to the crowd waving his arms as if to suggest get out of your seat and get loud.

Ouch. Why are you picking on me?

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 08:12 AM
Hello....your team is on offense.....they want it quiet to call plays...and you want to make noise and disrupt them.....quiet...that is what they need when they are calling plays...not a bunch of people standing up screaming.....
I bet the jags fans were laughing at us.....I bet anyone watching on tv who was not a Texan fans was laughing at us......
I never liked the wave in the first place....I think it is dumb if you ask me.....

Hurt our team that is what it did....the offense needs it quiet.....you playing it difficult for your own qb to call a play and your offensive line to hear it.....cmon people......wake up.....that was just plain dumb.....

and so 80s......:toropalm::hairpull::loser

Good. Hopefully next time, the Texans call some good plays. 1st down, run..... 2nd down, run.... 3rd down... pass....

I got bored.

I was actually happy that we didn't resort to booing our team while we were winning.

You want the Texans to put their foot on the opponent's throat? Hopefully that's the message the Texans got from the fans having nothing better to do than the wave when our team has the ball.

Craig.
10-31-2011, 08:34 AM
Ouch. Why are you picking on me?

That was you?

Kaiser Toro
10-31-2011, 08:35 AM
I don't know which is lamer - the wave or the one guy in the section that turns around to the crowd waving his arms as if to suggest get out of your seat and get loud.

What about the guy who gets out of his seat and waves his arms down to quiet down the section? Or the guy who gets up and yells first down?

Maddict5
10-31-2011, 08:49 AM
Good. Hopefully next time, the Texans call some good plays. 1st down, run..... 2nd down, run.... 3rd down... pass....

I got bored.

I was actually happy that we didn't resort to booing our team while we were winning.

You want the Texans to put their foot on the opponent's throat? Hopefully that's the message the Texans got from the fans having nothing better to do than the wave when our team has the ball.

i hope you realise what a newbie dbag fan you sound like..if you want to be entertained go to a f'n circus.

the only way we were losing that game yesterday was turnovers. up to that point we had one turnover from passing and none from the ground game so why not just bleed the clock & win the game. sorry if you got bored. take a coloring book next time maybe


texans fans... where throwing the ball is more important than winning. you mustve loved this team in 07-09

TimeKiller
10-31-2011, 09:04 AM
I handle my drink better than most people handle their food. lol...Paint chips? Can't you come up with something better than ripping off Chris Farley? There's one fat cat that had no problem standing up and yelling whenever he felt like it!

This is so typical. There was little to complain about (except the offense going into full clenched sphincter mode, which is why the wave happened) so people come on and dis the wave. I dare any of the sitting down punks in this thread to start a logical assessment OF THE GAME using observations, statistical analysis, commenting on other written pieces about the game. Then we can avoid "I think you're stupid" "I think you're fat" discussions.
:popcorn:

Texan_Bill
10-31-2011, 09:12 AM
Embarrassing.

:facepalm: Fans!

Rey
10-31-2011, 09:18 AM
The Wave is going to make a comeback at some point...

I haven't seen a really good one in a while....

But yeah...Don't do it when your team is on offense

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 09:19 AM
i hope you realise what a newbie dbag fan you sound like..if you want to be entertained go to a f'n circus.

http://www.cyberbullyingprotection.net/images/3114527.jpg
Ouch..... you got me.

the only way we were losing that game yesterday was turnovers. up to that point we had one turnover from passing and none from the ground game so why not just bleed the clock & win the game. sorry if you got bored. take a coloring book next time maybe


texans fans... where throwing the ball is more important than winning. you mustve loved this team in 07-09

It's not about throwing the ball, it's about not being so predictable.

chicagotexan2
10-31-2011, 09:23 AM
I'm creating a 'Wave' app for smartphones. When you activate it shows a video of dumbasses doing the wave so you dont have to look like a dumbass doing the wave.

Texn4life
10-31-2011, 09:25 AM
I just find it funny that the wave is turning out to be one of the most discussed topics coming out of a winning effort for the Texans. You can't make this stuff up.

Maddict5
10-31-2011, 09:29 AM
http://www.cyberbullyingprotection.net/images/3114527.jpg
Ouch..... you got me.


It's not about throwing the ball, it's about not being so predictable.

again it made perfect sense to bleed the clock and run with one of the best running games in the nfl all while reducing the risk of turnovers. good things happen when we run the ball alot (26-2 after yest when we have 30 carries). do you want me to go back to posts from last yr when we all bitched about games where we shouldve ran more?

and wasnt trying to be an internet bully but your post rly pissed me off.. 'i was bored..maybe next time they'll call better plays' just the whole general winning isnt enough vibe from your post. newbie fans think that. sorry

zanth91
10-31-2011, 09:31 AM
I just find it funny that the wave is turning out to be one of the most discussed topics coming out of a winning effort for the Texans. You can't make this stuff up.

And apparently it's wrong for the fans to try and have some fun during the least interesting part of the game. I don't recall the wave causing Tate to fumble because that was the end result of that drive.

Maddict5
10-31-2011, 09:34 AM
I just find it funny that the wave is turning out to be one of the most discussed topics coming out of a winning effort for the Texans. You can't make this stuff up.

well the team did their job so nothing rly to discuss, the fans on the other hand.......

fan support will prob be a factor this season whether its in one of our big games later in the season or the (hopefully) home playoff game we finish with. its time for fans to start holding themselves as accountable as they do with the team

Texn4life
10-31-2011, 09:34 AM
And apparently it's wrong for the fans to try and have some fun during the least interesting part of the game. I don't recall the wave causing Tate to fumble because that was the end result of that drive.

I think its silly to think the wave caused the penalty or fumble. I don't like the wave because I think its outdated and played out. That's just my personal opinion. But I also think the bored argument is pretty weak too. If we're getting bored with winning then something is wrong.

chicagotexan2
10-31-2011, 09:41 AM
I just find it funny that the wave is turning out to be one of the most discussed topics coming out of a winning effort for the Texans. You can't make this stuff up.

This is true. For me it's because this game actually bored the hell out me. I'm happy we beat the jagholes, but it felt like we blew our wod on the first drive and it was as entertaining for me as it usually is.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 09:42 AM
again it made perfect sense to bleed the clock and run with one of the best running games in the nfl all while reducing the risk of turnovers. good things happen when we run the ball alot (26-2 after yest when we have 30 carries). do you want me to go back to posts from last yr when we all bitched about games where we shouldve ran more?

and wasnt trying to be an internet bully but your post rly pissed me off.. 'i was bored..maybe next time they'll call better plays' just the whole general winning isnt enough vibe from your post. newbie fans think that. sorry

We were going to throw the ball on third down anyway.... we need to get 1st downs as much as we need to run out the clock. Mix it up a little bit, throw it on first down. throw it on second down. run, run, pass...

c'mon.

I'm personally happy with the win, but I'm serious, people were going to the bathroom & buying nachos when we were on offense, trying to get back to their seats before the defense took the field.

That game looked a lot like the Raider game, when a lesser team hung around & beat us, because we did the same thing.

I'd have been happy if they pitched the ball to get Arian free on the edges like they did last week. Ran a couple of screens like last week. Get Arian the ball in the passing game, like last week. But running it up the middle for a 2 yard loss on 1st down.... again, & again, and again...

I did the wave, several times.

Kaiser Toro
10-31-2011, 09:43 AM
What I think happened was that the Occupy Wall Street folks pooled all of their grilled cheese sales together, bought tickets to the Texans vs Jags and staged a tsunami like FU to the world.

In the words of Bodhi
What's the matter with you guys? This was never about the Texans, this was about us against the system. That system that kills the human spirit. We stand for something. We are here to show those guys that are inching their way on the freeways in their metal coffins that the human sprit is still alive.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102685/quotes]

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 09:43 AM
well the team did their job so nothing rly to discuss, the fans on the other hand.......

fan support will prob be a factor this season whether its in one of our big games later in the season or the (hopefully) home playoff game we finish with. its time for fans to start holding themselves as accountable as they do with the team

I think it was in direct reflection of holding the team accountable.

SouthSideTexan
10-31-2011, 09:53 AM
Why is this even an issue? Grow up and get over it.

Runner
10-31-2011, 10:02 AM
What about the guy who gets out of his seat and waves his arms down to quiet down the section? Or the guy who gets up and yells first down?

Excuse me. The knowledgable fan knows it is entirely appropriate to answer, "And that's another Texans..." with:

"FIRST DOWN"

1) it is in between plays so it doesn't interfere with the tennis match
2) it celebrates the accomplishment and acknowledges the importance of another ten yards gained*
3) it doesn't leave the PA announcer hanging


*I admit that this point could be countered with the "act like you've been there before" argument.

buckaroo_banzai
10-31-2011, 10:04 AM
Reliant Stadium......home of the Anti-Homefield advantage :specnatz:

Yankee_In_TX
10-31-2011, 10:09 AM
Ouch. Why are you picking on me?

...and me!

Kthx
10-31-2011, 10:09 AM
I am pretty sure the wave was a political statement about how we weren't going to put up with socialized medicine in Texas.

That or the constant battle between light and dark.

I haven't quite figured it out yet but I plan on spending the next week discussing it here.

Maddict5
10-31-2011, 10:23 AM
We were going to throw the ball on third down anyway.... we need to get 1st downs as much as we need to run out the clock. Mix it up a little bit, throw it on first down. throw it on second down. run, run, pass...

c'mon.

I'm personally happy with the win, but I'm serious, people were going to the bathroom & buying nachos when we were on offense, trying to get back to their seats before the defense took the field.

That game looked a lot like the Raider game, when a lesser team hung around & beat us, because we did the same thing.

I'd have been happy if they pitched the ball to get Arian free on the edges like they did last week. Ran a couple of screens like last week. Get Arian the ball in the passing game, like last week. But running it up the middle for a 2 yard loss on 1st down.... again, & again, and again...

I did the wave, several times.

whatever... go back and look at the play by play since you were obviously too busy watching what every1 in the stands was doing to remember what was happening in the game. on the drive before the wave, we had gotten a td because of those boring runs up the middle (mixed in with a few throws on first downs of course)

hope you enjoyed the wave. i didnt enjoy the offensive huddle and kubiak (rightfully) looking up into the stands with 'what are these dumbasses doing faces and why wont they STFU' faces/actions. it was embarassing.

Maddict5
10-31-2011, 10:25 AM
I think it was in direct reflection of holding the team accountable.

ya win the game in their dumbass way or dont win the game at all. what a great fanbase

El Tejano
10-31-2011, 10:30 AM
I didn't know the wave was going on. I hardly saw anyone in the seats. Just glad to know our fans were doing something because when i go to the games people ask me to actually sit down and be quiet.

However, I agree. No noise while we are on offense.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 10:49 AM
ya win the game in their dumbass way or dont win the game at all. what a great fanbase

Whatever pisses you off the most.....

Look, it stupid to think we don't know what we are doing. Most of the fans in my section have been there for years. We're all PSL owners.

You go on thinking what you want while you're jerking off & watching the game on TV... switching to the other game during commercials, going to the bathroom & what not.

But if we see another game like that at home... an offense just waiting for the other team to catch up, I'll lead the wave myself.

Craig.
10-31-2011, 10:55 AM
What about the guy who gets out of his seat and waves his arms down to quiet down the section? Or the guy who gets up and yells first down?

To be fair, it's usually the same guy. :D

Porky
10-31-2011, 11:49 AM
I was watching the game with my girlfriend, and all the sudden I hear all this crowd noise. She's like what's up with the crowd? Meanwhile, my face is turning red out of frustration, and then I let out a string of expletives yelling at the IGNORANT fans thru my TV to STFU! I was almost positive it was some lame-ass wave althought they mercifully didn't show it.

If you want to do the wave, go to a dance club. Otherwise, if you cannot HELP the team while attending the game, stay the hell home. I swear if I could have come thru the TV I would have. Why the freak are you participating in something that was new when leisure suits were in? If you are that bored, stay the hell home. Some of us are actually interested in seeing the team win.

I even had my GF call her 18 yr old daughter who was at the game and I was screaming thru the phone - DONT DO THE WAVE when the Texans are on offense.

TRULY one of the absouloute most brain-dead and lamest things I have ever seen our lame fan base do at a game. You guys should be embarrased and taken to the woodshed for about 100 lashes, and your fan card has been hearby revoked. :foottap:

gtexan02
10-31-2011, 12:00 PM
Sometimes I think fans forget that football is a serious business and that if you can't follow the rules, you shouldn't be allowed to be a fan. It should be enforced like golf in my opinion. A polite, quiet clap to let the team know you're "there" but nothing more. Anyone who cheers loudly at the incorrect times should be immediately escorted out.

Just because you paid for a ticket does not mean you have a right to be there. It is a privelage that you are being given to be allowed to witness football, not a right.


(Internet sarcasm, for those of you with defective filters :))

I'm kidding, but seriously I think the reactions that I'm reading here seem a little overblown. This was never a close game, really. Football is entertainment, first and foremost. When they play obnoxious sounds over the loud speakers, or run the players on the field with fire, have women dressed in sexy outfits dancing, or have a giant guy in a bull costume walking around cheering its all for entertainment. Because thats the name of the game, when it comes right down to it.

I'm sure you could cut out a lot of the entertainment aspects to the game and actually improve the product on the field, but football is not just a business. Its also there to be fun.

My sound sucks on tv, so I wasn't able to hear the wave as clearly as many of you seemed to able to, but I highly doubt that it had that much of an impact on the game. The only reasons we were going to lose that game were turnovers (Schuab and Tate), and neither of those plays could possibly have been impacted by the wave.

Our fanbase seems a little hyperserious at times. Which is ironic to me because you can tell that the players think of it equally as serious business and fun.

Id much rather have an overactive crowd that cheers at the wrong time than an apathetic crowd like the Jaguars that needs tarps to fill their seats

houstonspartan
10-31-2011, 12:08 PM
Sometimes I think fans forget that football is a serious business and that if you can't follow the rules, you shouldn't be allowed to be a fan. It should be enforced like golf in my opinion. A polite, quiet clap to let the team know you're "there" but nothing more. Anyone who cheers loudly at the incorrect times should be immediately escorted out.

Just because you paid for a ticket does not mean you have a right to be there. It is a privelage that you are being given to be allowed to witness football, not a right.


(Internet sarcasm, for those of you with defective filters :))

I'm kidding, but seriously I think the reactions that I'm reading here seem a little overblown. This was never a close game, really. Football is entertainment, first and foremost. When they play obnoxious sounds over the loud speakers, or run the players on the field with fire, have women dressed in sexy outfits dancing, or have a giant guy in a bull costume walking around cheering its all for entertainment. Because thats the name of the game, when it comes right down to it.

I'm sure you could cut out a lot of the entertainment aspects to the game and actually improve the product on the field, but football is not just a business. Its also there to be fun.

My sound sucks on tv, so I wasn't able to hear the wave as clearly as many of you seemed to able to, but I highly doubt that it had that much of an impact on the game. The only reasons we were going to lose that game were turnovers (Schuab and Tate), and neither of those plays could possibly have been impacted by the wave.

Our fanbase seems a little hyperserious at times. Which is ironic to me because you can tell that the players think of it equally as serious business and fun.

Id much rather have an overactive crowd that cheers at the wrong time than an apathetic crowd like the Jaguars that needs tarps to fill their seats

I don't think anyone is saying that the country is going to collapse or that the world is going to end because some fans were doing the wave. Some of us were just frustrated that it went on too long and got a bit too loud, which may or may not have led to a false start on our part.

This is all fun and entertainment. No doubt. But part of the fun and entertaiment is winning and helping our team win whenever we can.

Who knows what could happen down the line if the stadium got a bit too loud while on offense and an advance in the playoffs could be on the line? That sounds dramatic, but, again, it's Football 101.

Porky
10-31-2011, 12:22 PM
The point is knowledgable fans all over the NFL know when to get loud and bang their feat and clap their hands - and apparently one stupid ass fanbase does not. End of story.

Mr teX
10-31-2011, 12:28 PM
Needing a bullhorn to sound off so people can get into the stadium for kickoff on time.....cheering for an opposing qb when he scores a winning TD to beat us.....getting carried away with crap like the wave when our offense is on the field...its just par for the course with our fan base which is why i don't like going to games. I mean it's crap like that that makes me really question the knowledge of our fan base at times.

I won't go so far as to call anyone stupid...but i just don't understand us sometimes.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 12:41 PM
If you want to do the wave, go to a dance club. Otherwise, if you cannot HELP the team while attending the game, stay the hell home. I swear if I could have come thru the TV I would have. Why the freak are you participating in something that was new when leisure suits were in? If you are that bored, stay the hell home. Some of us are actually interested in seeing the team win.

I even had my GF call her 18 yr old daughter who was at the game and I was screaming thru the phone - DONT DO THE WAVE when the Texans are on offense.

TRULY one of the absouloute most brain-dead and lamest things I have ever seen our lame fan base do at a game. You guys should be embarrased and taken to the woodshed for about 100 lashes, and your fan card has been hearby revoked. :foottap:

Then bring your ass out to Reliant & tell them to stop. Don't be sitting on your couch telling us how ignorant we are.

If you want to help the Texans win, be there & stop the wave.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 12:44 PM
The point is knowledgable fans all over the NFL know when to get loud and bang their feat and clap their hands - and apparently one stupid ass fanbase does not. End of story.

We could have just got up & walked out... I guess that's one way of letting them know we aren't happy with what we are seeing.

I'd rather do the wave while they are on offense, that way I can still see Cushing knock the crap out of somebody.

Norg
10-31-2011, 12:50 PM
i think this thread is another indicator of how the texans as a fanbase kinda sucks. fair play to aj for saying it in his piece because its a bit taboo.

yeah you pay your money so you can do what you want but theres plenty of ppl around the country doing the same and not doing dumb shit just because the offence is 'boring' (21 pts thru 3 q's against a very good D) :rolleyes:

the team is winning and yet the crowd is still coming in late, leaving early etc so there goes that 'we're sick of losing' excuse thats been clung to by so many


we were 5-2 !!! last year excuse me if we know not to think to far ahead yet

Double Barrel
10-31-2011, 12:51 PM
I'm tempted to lock this thread.

We are 5-3, 3-0 against division opponents, and a thread about the wave and clueless hometown fans is the biggest the day after a win? :um:

Who cares.... If someone pays for the ticket....they can do what ever they want. Last time I looked, it wasn't illegal. I didn't see anything wrong with it, it was actually fun to watch and brought back some good memories.

You're right! You can even put on a Jaguars jersey and wave a teal pompom since it's your ticket! You go, boy!

When the coaches and players are making the get quiet arm motion (including Schaub who was probably having problems hearing the play the way he held his helmet) and they Scoreboard guys flash 'Quiet - Offense at Work' and the wave continues and gets louder for a few minutes, well, that is asinine.

I think the crowd noise might have had something to do with the flase start and I was yelling at my section to shut the heck up because we were on offense.

Jeesh...can you imagine this if we host a playoff game? For real???

[NASALLY VOICE] "Weeee'rrrrre juuuust haaaaving fuuuUn. Why don't you shut up you party pooooper!"

Seriously, folks, the key to having a homefield advantage:

1) Good defense

2) Hometown crowd that knows when to get loud (i.e. when our defense is on the field).

There is no other way a homefield advantage works. It's simple, so even the simpletons can comprehend it.

Do any of you remember the House of Pain? I do. We did not make noise when our offense was on the field. Other teams hated playing here because our fans were smart.

I just find it funny that the wave is turning out to be one of the most discussed topics coming out of a winning effort for the Texans. You can't make this stuff up.

yep. Our fanbase is suffering from some kind of post-traumatic stress disorder from so many years without a playoff team.

Reliant Stadium......home of the Anti-Homefield advantage :specnatz:

lol! Yep...hopefully it doesn't stay that way. Can you imagine NFLN and ESPN if we cost our offense a potentially game winning drive in the playoffs because fans wanted to do the wave?

When I go to a game. I will sit with my hands interlocked and between my legs while twiddling my thumbs. I will be bored and look side to with a lost look in my eyes. All because I shouldn't have fun at the stadium.

Winning not fun enough for ya'?

The point is knowledgable fans all over the NFL know when to get loud and bang their feat and clap their hands - and apparently one stupid ass fanbase does not. End of story.

Sad, but true. :spin:

From AJ's column (http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/texans-win-ugly-but-it-s-better-than-the-alternative):

The bad:

•The fans. What a terrible showing today. Arrived late, left early, sat on their hands until some fools in the upper reaches of the south end zone started the 'wave' when the Texans had the ball on a key drive in the fourth quarter. I couldn't believe my eyes and ears. The Texans had just forced a three-and-out and got the ball back in good field position with 11:35 remaining in the game. They had the lead (21-7) and the momentum, and were poised for a clock killing drive to put the Jags out of their misery. Instead, some geniuses decide that they're bored and start the wave which to my horror, picked up in intensity to the point where it caused Mike Brisiel to false start on a 2nd and 9 with 9:49 remaining. The stadium scoreboard operators frantically put up the "Quiet Offense at Work" thing on the big screen but it was too late. The clueless Texans fans/lemmings were having too much fun looking at each other and jumping up and down than to worry about what was going on with the game. One play after Brisiel's false start, Ben Tate fumbled and the momentum swung to the Jags who seven plays later cut the lead to 21-14. The Texans run a "Best Fans in the National Football League" segment before games to honor the home crowd (AC/DC's "For those about to rock, we salute you) complete with fire coming out of the chute where the players enter the field and fake crowd noise pumped in through the sound system. Best fans in the NFL? I don't think so. The Texans have a small core of great fans, but collectively they're far from the best in the NFL. What happened today was as dumb as it gets in terms of fans 'getting it.'

Norg
10-31-2011, 12:52 PM
I have no idea what you're trying to get at right here, but ok.

im sayin there could of been a empty stadium there and our O would of still pitched 3 and outs

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 12:56 PM
What happened today was as dumb as it gets in terms of fans 'getting it.' [/B]

If you're thinking we don't get it.... then yeah, that statement is correct.

But I was at the game. I know the guys sitting in my row. I know the guys sitting in the row below me & above me.

We get it. So what happened yesterday, was not about the fans not getting it.

It was more about the guys on the field & on the sidelines not getting it.

:texan:

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 12:57 PM
im sayin there could of been a empty stadium there and our O would of still pitched 3 and outs

And somebody (more than likely Winston) would still get a false start.

Norg
10-31-2011, 01:00 PM
The point is knowledgable fans all over the NFL know when to get loud and bang their feat and clap their hands - and apparently one stupid ass fanbase does not. End of story.

Yes one day one day we will be like the steelers fans .......

but u know why that hasent happend yet ..... Cause we dont win on a constant basis

And i missed the wave : ( im on the part of the stadium were the sunlight is beaming down on me the hole game !!!!! so i cant stand to be in my seat all 4 qtrs or else i would bake so i go to the bar area and watch a few mins there and then go back to my seat and vise versa

Ryan
10-31-2011, 01:02 PM
Biggest overreaction thread i've ever seen. And of all the things to nitpick about.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 01:03 PM
Biggest overreaction thread i've ever seen. And of all the things to nitpick about.

It's been pretty easy to keep this one going though...

almost fun even.

:kitten:

Double Barrel
10-31-2011, 01:07 PM
If you're thinking we don't get it.... then yeah, that statement is correct.

But I was at the game. I know the guys sitting in my row. I know the guys sitting in the row below me & above me.

We get it. So what happened yesterday, was not about the fans not getting it.

It was more about the guys on the field & on the sidelines not getting it.

:texan:

That was an Alan Burge quote. He knows that fans did not get it.

The guys on the field? No man, it's basic stuff as a football fan.

You can argue until you are blue in the face, but if doing the wave and making noise while the offense is on the field is what you are trying to defend, then you are simply wrong.

NFL history, common sense, and fans of championship teams are on the opposing side. Good luck with that argument.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 01:09 PM
That was an Alan Burge quote. He knows that fans did not get it.

The guys on the field? No man, it's basic stuff as a football fan.

You can argue until you are blue in the face, but if doing the wave and making noise while the offense is on the field is what you are trying to defend, then you are simply wrong.

NFL history, common sense, and fans of championship teams are on the opposing side. Good luck with that argument.

I'm saying I was there. I saw the wave, and I told the guy next to me, "we're on offense" He said,"we're going to go 3 & out anyway" paraphrasing of course.

No one was expecting the offense to do anything unless we had a really short field.

Trail.Blazr
10-31-2011, 01:11 PM
I was yelling at my section to shut the heck up because we were on offense.



I can imagine how effective THAT was... lol

TwistedGnarl
10-31-2011, 01:23 PM
I was watching the game with my girlfriend, and all the sudden I hear all this crowd noise. She's like what's up with the crowd? Meanwhile, my face is turning red out of frustration, and then I let out a string of expletives yelling at the IGNORANT fans thru my TV to STFU! I was almost positive it was some lame-ass wave althought they mercifully didn't show it.

If you want to do the wave, go to a dance club. Otherwise, if you cannot HELP the team while attending the game, stay the hell home. I swear if I could have come thru the TV I would have. Why the freak are you participating in something that was new when leisure suits were in? If you are that bored, stay the hell home. Some of us are actually interested in seeing the team win.

I even had my GF call her 18 yr old daughter who was at the game and I was screaming thru the phone - DONT DO THE WAVE when the Texans are on offense.

TRULY one of the absouloute most brain-dead and lamest things I have ever seen our lame fan base do at a game. You guys should be embarrased and taken to the woodshed for about 100 lashes, and your fan card has been hearby revoked. :foottap:

If you are that angry, get out your wallet, buy a ticket, go to the game, and police everyone there on how to behave. Good luck with that, by the way, since by my count there were 70,000+ fans participating in the wave.

Until then, you can continue to spew your impotent rage at the television set and scream at your girlfriend's poor daughter while people who spend actual dollars in support of the team show up on gameday and do whatever it is they want.

To all of you who did not attend the game and are disparaging the 70,000 fans who attended the game and participated in the wave, you guys are superfans, right? You know better. The wave is ignorant. Etc. etc. You all know the 'right' way to support the team, correct?

Well get this. The Actual American Dollars which those 70,000 ticketholders spent go infinitely further towards supporting the Houston Texans than all of this whining and complaining on a message board.

My suggestion: put your money where your mouth is. If you are truly that appalled, get out your wallet, go to the game, and be that asshole screaming at the thousands of people around (enjoying themselves and having a good time) to shut up and sit down.

Kthx
10-31-2011, 01:24 PM
This is just honestly not the right place to be complaining about it, all joke posts aside and people arguing for the sake of arguing I really doubt anyone who bothers to log into a forum and talk about Texans football all week would actually go out there and make an ass out of themselves as a fan. I mean put up some signs, pass out flyers at the front gate, make the cheerleaders wear pom-poms that say no-wave when we have the ball. I am just saying you are preaching the choir is all.

gtexan02
10-31-2011, 01:24 PM
It sounds like some of you give yourselves too much credit in believing you're influencing the play of guys on the field.

The wave was what caused Mike Briesel to false start? How do we know this? What proof is there? How many false starts has Briesel had this year? In years past? And how many were due to sloppy play vs crowd noise?

The point is, home field advantage has a very minor affect on NFL football. The consensus is between 1 and 3 points, at most. Thats a combination of sleeping in your own house, not traveling, playing on your own field, more practice time, and also home crowd advantage--part of which includes noise.

In today's NFL in which the players have headsets which allow them to speak to the coaches and all teams should and are coached to deal with noisy environments, the affect of screaming fans is exceedingly minimal.

Does crowd noise lead to false starts? Yes and no. Noisy environments can definitely make it difficult for QBs to speak with their line, but well coached teams should never have a problem with this. A well coached team watches the ball, as Briesel should have done.

I honestly cannot believe so many people are calling out the fans for doing the wave when were up 14 points in the 4th quarter.

There is so much self-loathing and comparison to other fan bases. How many of you have actually ever been to away games? I've seen the wave at multiple NFL stadiums. I've seen it in Foxboro. I've seen it in DC. Why is it that only Texans fan are so self-insulting. We are worse to each other than other fan bases are to their rivals.

Runner
10-31-2011, 01:24 PM
I'm tempted to lock this thread.



Wait a minute - I thought this was a light-hearted joke thread, parodying Internet tough talk and "I'm a better fan than you".

b0ng
10-31-2011, 01:24 PM
This is a thing? Really?

who ****ing cares.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 01:28 PM
If you are that angry, get out your wallet, buy a ticket, go to the game, and police everyone there on how to behave. Good luck with that, by the way, since by my count there were 70,000+ fans participating in the wave.

Until then, you can continue to spew your impotent rage at the television set and scream at your girlfriend's poor daughter while people who spend actual dollars in support of the team show up on gameday and do whatever it is they want.

To all of you who did not attend the game and are disparaging the 70,000 fans who attended the game and participated in the wave, you guys are superfans, right? You know better. The wave is ignorant. Etc. etc. You all know the 'right' way to support the team, correct?

Well get this. The Actual American Dollars which those 70,000 ticketholders spent go infinitely further towards supporting the Houston Texans than all of this whining and complaining on a message board.

My suggestion: put your money where your mouth is. If you are truly that appalled, get out your wallet, go to the game, and be that asshole screaming at the thousands of people around (enjoying themselves and having a good time) to shut up and sit down.

You know, that's going a little too far. If a person prioritizes their money differently than you or I, that's no knock on them or their fandom.

They have just as much right to ***** as we have for doing the wave.

I think they are way off base... it's not that we don't get it, it's not that we are ignorant.. that's the real argument, I think.

But this is no reason to get into a "real fan" argument. They'll lock this thread quicker than shit, because those never end well.

RTP2110
10-31-2011, 01:32 PM
Well get this. The Actual American Dollars which those 70,000 ticketholders spent go infinitely further towards supporting the Houston Texans than all of this whining and complaining on a message board.

My suggestion: put your money where your mouth is. If you are truly that appalled, get out your wallet, go to the game, and be that asshole screaming at the thousands of people around (enjoying themselves and having a good time) to shut up and sit down.


More fuel for the theory that with rising prices on tickets, parking, concessions, & PSLs, the Texans, and most teams, have priced out their most of their passionate and knowledgeable fans.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 01:32 PM
This is just honestly not the right place to be complaining about it, all joke posts aside and people arguing for the sake of arguing I really doubt anyone who bothers to log into a forum and talk about Texans football all week would actually go out there and make an ass out of themselves as a fan. I mean put up some signs, pass out flyers at the front gate, make the cheerleaders wear pom-poms that say no-wave when we have the ball. I am just saying you are preaching the choir is all.

I swear, the main "cheer-leader" in our section was the main guy trying to get the wave going. He's normally the same guy who tells people to be quiet on offense. It's not that he didn't know any better, or any of the guys in my section & I know most of them.

We all know the proper "etiquette" But that wasn't the point.


Let me ask this way.

Imagine we were doing it during the Raiders game. We lost that game anyway, we won this game, so let's say it doesn't affect the outcome of the game.

We are telling (in my mind) those people on the sidelines that this offense laying down just ain't the Texans way. Stop trying not to lose, mix it up & try to win.

rush2112mn
10-31-2011, 01:35 PM
Maybe the Texans need to run that Quiet Please ....Offense at work.....every time the offense has the ball.....they did start running it after the wave went around the stadium a few times.....

If you want to run the wave go ahead ..just do it when the Texans are on defense.

Anything...and I mean Anything that causes our offensive not to hear as well while plays are being called at Reliant is just wrong. You are helping the opposing team's defense...why? There is no excuse for that.

I think they need to run a message before the game too.......

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 01:36 PM
It sounds like some of you give yourselves way too much credit in believing you're influencing the play of guys on the field.

The wave was what caused Mike Briesel to false start? How do we know this? What proof is there? How many false starts has Briesel had this year? In years past? And how many were due to sloppy play vs crowd noise?


It's not like we are going to audible or anything.

RTP2110
10-31-2011, 01:38 PM
We are telling (in my mind) those people on the sidelines that this offense laying down just ain't the Texans way. Stop trying not to lose, mix it up & try to win.

I understand your logic here, but I must ask, do you really think it will accomplish anything? Do you really think Gary Kubiak is going to look up and see the wave going around, and think to himself, "Oh shit, the fans are doing the wave; I better change up the play calling'.

You could make the same point more productively by just booing the offense after a three and out.

Double Barrel
10-31-2011, 01:52 PM
If you are that angry, get out your wallet, buy a ticket, go to the game, and police everyone there on how to behave. Good luck with that, by the way, since by my count there were 70,000+ fans participating in the wave.

It's basic stuff as a fan. I don't think anyone is as angry as you seem to perceive - or as angry as you seem to be about it - but it's simple common sense stuff.

To all of you who did not attend the game and are disparaging the 70,000 fans who attended the game and participated in the wave, you guys are super fans, right? You know better. The wave is ignorant. Etc. etc. You all know the 'right' way to support the team, correct?


Nobody is claiming to be "super fan". But I know for certain who is not "super fan", and that is people that make a bunch of noise while our offense is on the field.

Basic stuff here, nothing that hard to comprehend.

Well get this. The Actual American Dollars which those 70,000 ticketholders spent go infinitely further towards supporting the Houston Texans than all of this whining and complaining on a message board.


Actual American Dollars can also buy Jaguars jerseys and teal pompoms if that's who you need to root for at the game. Because that is what you are doing when you cheer for the Jaguars defense.

Basic stuff here, nothing that hard to comprehend.

It sounds like some of you give yourselves way too much credit in believing you're influencing the play of guys on the field.


A few years ago the Texans used to keep a running tally on false starts and fumbled Center/QB exchanges that were a direct result of excessive crowd noise.

You are being naive if you think homefield advantage is not something tangible for good teams. NFL history proves it to be true, as does anecdotal evidence by old Oiler fans who were at the House of Pain in it's heyday.

I just hope our fans understand this simple stuff if we host a playoff game. Homefield advantage can make a difference. Just ask 7-9 Seattle last year when they beat the Saints. There is a reason that the Seahawks stole the "12th Man" idea from Texas A&M.

cdollaz
10-31-2011, 01:53 PM
The wave is so tired and played. Are we gonna dump Gatorade on Kubiak if we win the division, too?

infantrycak
10-31-2011, 01:57 PM
If your own team is telling you to shut-up you are wrong.

A few years ago the Texans used to keep a running tally on false starts and fumbled Center/QB exchanges that were a direct result of excessive crowd noise.

You are being naive if you think homefield advantage is not something tangible for good teams. NFL history proves it to be true, as does anecdotal evidence by old Oiler fans who were at the House of Pain in it's heyday.

I just hope our fans understand this simple stuff if we host a playoff game. Homefield advantage can make a difference. Just ask 7-9 Seattle last year when they beat the Saints. There is a reason that the Seahawks stole the "12th Man" idea from Texas A&M.

Yup. Add in wasted timeouts. It is really obvious a lot of the time when noise causes a problem.

badboy
10-31-2011, 02:20 PM
It sounds like some of you give yourselves way too much credit in believing you're influencing the play of guys on the field.

The wave was what caused Mike Briesel to false start? How do we know this? What proof is there? How many false starts has Briesel had this year? In years past? And how many were due to sloppy play vs crowd noise?

The point is, home field advantage has a very minor affect on NFL football. The consensus is between 1 and 3 points, at most. Thats a combination of sleeping in your own house, not traveling, playing on your own field, more practice time, and also home crowd advantage--part of which includes noise.

In today's NFL in which the players have headsets which allow them to speak to the coaches and all teams should and are coached to deal with noisy environments, the affect of screaming fans is exceedingly minimal.

Does crowd noise lead to false starts? Yes and no. Noisy environments can definitely make it difficult for QBs to speak with their line, but well coached teams should never have a problem with this. A well coached team watches the ball, as Briesel should have done.

I honestly cannot believe so many people are calling out the fans for doing the wave when were up 14 points in the 4th quarter.

There is so much self-loathing and comparison to other fan bases. How many of you have actually ever been to away games? I've seen the wave at multiple NFL stadiums. I've seen it in Foxboro. I've seen it in DC. Why is it that only Texans fan are so self-insulting. We are worse to each other than other fan bases are to their rivals.Talk about perceptive! I just got this tweeter on my CB radio from Biesel that the wave did indeed cause his false start. "Yep did it. Eric started giggling & I thought at first it was about the crack er chop block complaints. Just the play before he said 'Brie, he does call me Brie, watch this I'm gonna go high and Wade is coming around & low'; but no he was looking in the stands at a wave. What's funny is in first quarter Matty, I do call him Martty, tried to blame that dumbass fumble on the wave; but you know he has an excuse for everything. I guess maybe he was right after all, cause I know I fell off balance and crossed the line."

I love getting them there tweeters on my CB! Makes me feel like I'm a part of the game. Now if Foster would stop tweeting me after every run saying "Did you see that one?" I could pay more attention to what is going on in the stands many of which looked empty to me. WOnder if there is an empty seat wave?

houstonspartan
10-31-2011, 02:47 PM
It sounds like some of you give yourselves way too much credit in believing you're influencing the play of guys on the field.

The wave was what caused Mike Briesel to false start? How do we know this? What proof is there? How many false starts has Briesel had this year? In years past? And how many were due to sloppy play vs crowd noise?

The point is, home field advantage has a very minor affect on NFL football. The consensus is between 1 and 3 points, at most. Thats a combination of sleeping in your own house, not traveling, playing on your own field, more practice time, and also home crowd advantage--part of which includes noise.

In today's NFL in which the players have headsets which allow them to speak to the coaches and all teams should and are coached to deal with noisy environments, the affect of screaming fans is exceedingly minimal.

Does crowd noise lead to false starts? Yes and no. Noisy environments can definitely make it difficult for QBs to speak with their line, but well coached teams should never have a problem with this. A well coached team watches the ball, as Briesel should have done.

I honestly cannot believe so many people are calling out the fans for doing the wave when were up 14 points in the 4th quarter.

There is so much self-loathing and comparison to other fan bases. How many of you have actually ever been to away games? I've seen the wave at multiple NFL stadiums. I've seen it in Foxboro. I've seen it in DC. Why is it that only Texans fan are so self-insulting. We are worse to each other than other fan bases are to their rivals.

I have been to Foxboro. They are loud - wait for it - on DEFENSE.

I went to the Green Bay game when the Texans played there a few years ago. They are loud - guess? - on DEFENSE.

If you don't think home field advantage makes a difference in games, you are kidding yourself.

gtexan02
10-31-2011, 02:47 PM
It's basic stuff as a fan. I don't think anyone is as angry as you seem to perceive - or as angry as you seem to be about it - but it's simple common sense stuff.

When people are using expletives and writing their posts in all caps about how awful and ignorant our fans is, I don't think its overreacting to think they are angry.


A few years ago the Texans used to keep a running tally on false starts and fumbled Center/QB exchanges that were a direct result of excessive crowd noise.

You are being naive if you think homefield advantage is not something tangible for good teams. NFL history proves it to be true, as does anecdotal evidence by old Oiler fans who were at the House of Pain in it's heyday.

I just hope our fans understand this simple stuff if we host a playoff game. Homefield advantage can make a difference. Just ask 7-9 Seattle last year when they beat the Saints. There is a reason that the Seahawks stole the "12th Man" idea from Texas A&M.

You can call me naive if you want, but like I've said, I've looked at the numbers and home field advantage in the NFL is real, but a lot more subtle than the majority of fans seem to believe. Its also extremely multi-factorial, meaning that loud home fans is only a small part of what makes home field advantage what it is.

You quote the Saints Seahawks playoff game for last year, so lets look at it in detail. Your post implies that you believe that loud fans is what caused Seattle to win that game.

Lets look at the two things that fan noise can directly affect. Penalties and wasted timeouts.
NO was called for 7 penalties. The 6 listed in the play by play are
1. Defensive holding/pass interference x2
2. Intentional grounding x1
3. Illegal block/holding x3

No false starts. No illegal motions. No delay of game.

As for timeouts, NO called 1 in the 2nd quarter that set up a touchdown on the next play. This may be due to crowd noise, but more likely due to changing a play based on defense. Net effect was a TD for NO anyway.
The 2nd timeout was during a seattle series while on D and the 3rd was an injury timeout.

In the 2nd half they called their first timeout on defense, their 2nd on their 2nd to last series in the 4th, and their final timeout during seattles final series to try and buy as much time as possible.

Now, I don't have gametape so I'm just going by play by play, but it sure seems as if crowd noise did not have any tangible affects on the NO Saints.

If you look at recent NFL statistics, the home field advantage is just not all that impressive. And home field advantage encompasses so many things like where the players sleep, how far they travel, how much practice time they get, how familiar they are with the field, the weather, and finally the crowd. Even the crowd component is fairly mixed with stadium noise only being part of the issue.

Check out some articles if you want to read up on it more. This is just the first I've found that is linkable. There are whole segments of psychology that research this stuff. If you're more interested in the academic papers I can find those for you as well.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/partone/081121

In basketball if I'm sitting behind the basket, I'm waving my batons and shouting at the opposing team to try and distract him, but I don't really believe that its having an effect. Because I've seen the stats. I know that there is only a miniscule difference. It sure feels like my cheering impacts the player when he misses, but its a false impression. There are many, many more factors not being considered.

I'm not trying to discount home field advantage and good crowds. Even 1 or 2 false starts can be drive killers and that can shave points off an offense. Football is a complex game where one misstep and change the entire momentum of a game.
However, years of games have shown that in the NFL, home teams only gain about 1-3 points of an advantage over their visiting rivals. And so much goes in to that advantage, that the tangible effect of loud fans is difficult to quantify.

The point is, when up by 14 points against a hapless offense in the 4th quarter, I just don't see the wave as a big deal. I actually find the wave fun whenever I've been able to do it.

And its just so sad to me to see "fans" of the same team going after each other for not being good enough. They make it sound like if you don't wear a certain jersey or cheer a certain way or stand a certain amount of time, that its your fault that the team loses. And thats just depressing.

Because football is first and foremost a source of entertainment. Its supposed to be fun. If the Texans win or lose its on them, the coaches, and the other teams.

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 02:57 PM
I have been to Foxboro. They are loud - wait for it - on DEFENSE.

I went to the Green Bay game when the Texans played there a few years ago. They are loud - guess? - on DEFENSE.

If you don't think home field advantage makes a difference in games, you are kidding yourself.

& we get it right most games as well. Roughly 60,000 of us are season ticket holders. But you think you "know" more, or "know" better than the rest of us who have been doing our job week in & week out.

We didn't care this time. Why was this time different than all the other times?

Why did we "get it" against Pittsburgh, or against Oakland, but didn't get it against the Jags?

There's more to it than what y'all are thinking.

It was in protest more than anything.

gtexan02
10-31-2011, 02:59 PM
I have been to Foxboro. They are loud - wait for it - on DEFENSE.

I went to the Green Bay game when the Texans played there a few years ago. They are loud - guess? - on DEFENSE.

If you don't think home field advantage makes a difference in games, you are kidding yourself.

I'd love to debate this with you, but it seems you're mind is made up after being to two away games.

I don't know what to tell you. Ive been to a game at Foxboro this year, and they are loud on defense. And they cheer occasionally on offense as well. Yes, even when their team is at the line.

The idea that an entire "fanbase", on average, is going to be less intelligent than another one is pretty unrealistic, dont you think?

We're talking about the summed, average intelligence of tens of thousands of people. Why do our fans feel so inferior that they believe we are so much less intelligent than other fans?

Every NFL fanbase (with the exception of maybe the Packers) is probably pretty comparable in football intelligence when you account for market size.

Texas is a major football state. Its something we get exposed to at a very young age. High school football and college football here are big deals.

Why would we be less football knowledgeable, on average, than a city like Boston?

I just don't get this inferiority complex that our city has. Our fans are great and just as good as other fans, stop telling yourself otherwise.

As for the home field advantage part of your post, you seem to be missing the point of mine. I'm not saying it doesn't make a difference, I'm saying that the difference is only 1-3 points (depending on the time period you look at), and those 1-3 points are attributable to many factors associated with "home field"--not just crowd noise.

TwistedGnarl
10-31-2011, 03:10 PM
Thanks for the rational thoughts, gtexan. For all of the comments here accusing other fans of being stupid, uninformed, etc. This is the most thoughtful comment I've seen.

Let's assume that the crowd noise was completely responsible for the false start penalty. This seems fair enough to me.

First, the stadium was not loud during this. It was certainly not dead quiet, but to characterize the stadium's noise level as 'loud' during the wave incident is just not accurate. In fact, it was a whisper compared to what the Texans offense is likely to experience during ANY road playoff game in the NFL.

If this offense cannot play through that low level of crowd noise, then many of you will soon have plenty more to complain about than an unruly home crowd.

unabated
10-31-2011, 03:10 PM
I thought it was nice to see the wave in Houston again, we need a little firing up and whether it was on Offense/Defense doesn't really matter. It may be stupid or foolish, it may be the wrong time to do it, doesn't really matter to me... just good to see a bit of spirit... Our seats are on the sunny side of the stadium so the wave was about the only circulation happening in that stadium. :)

Porky
10-31-2011, 03:25 PM
All I am saying is let's make the home field a home field advantage. I've been a football fan longer than many of you have been alive. This is not complicated stuff and was taught to me when I was knee high to a grasshopper. And ya, I was ticked when I clearly heard loud crowd noise during plays by our offense.

I honestly think that all season ticket holders should be given "instructions" on how to be a good fan of their team. It seems that a majority of our fanbase needs to take remidial fandom 101.

As to TK who keep complaining about the offiense, I don't get it. We had no AJ, Casey may as well have been out, and by the way we were playing the best D in the league over the past few weeks. They are on an absouloute roll and didn't even allow a first down until almost Q4 against Baltimore. The Texans scored 7 on the opening drive, and should have hung 27 on them but for a rare miss by Rackers.....and you are complaining and saying you were bored? ROFLMAO. :spin:

WTF??????????????????????????????????????????????

False Start
10-31-2011, 03:39 PM
Its actually kind of cool to have the subject of the wave as the most heated debate on here, rather than how bad the team, and coach sucks, lol. That's when your team is actually doing something good. I could get used to this. :cool:

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 03:44 PM
As to TK who keep complaining about the offiense, I don't get it. We had no AJ, Casey may as well have been out, and by the way we were playing the best D in the league over the past few weeks. They are on an absouloute roll and didn't even allow a first down until almost Q4 against Baltimore. The Texans scored 7 on the opening drive, and should have hung 27 on them but for a rare miss by Rackers.....and you are complaining and saying you were bored? ROFLMAO. :spin:

WTF??????????????????????????????????????????????

I'm not complaining about the offense, I'm complaining about the bland offensive play-calling. run, run, pass, punt. All I'm saying is mix it up a little bit... run, pass, pass, punt. Pass, run, run, punt....


It's not difficult to get my attention.

badboy
10-31-2011, 03:50 PM
Its actually kind of cool to have the subject of the wave as the most heated debate on here, rather than how bad the team, and coach sucks, lol. That's when your team is actually doing something good. I could get used to this. :cool:"Enough about a silly wave. Let's get back to talking about me!" co-signed Mario Williams and Kareem Jackson.

BullNation4Life
10-31-2011, 03:53 PM
If you want to know how a home team crowd is suppose to be while their team is on offense, watch the Colts at home. You can literally hear Manning calling out the plays and the audibles at the line. Everybody in that stadium that is a Colts fan is quiet while Manning is at the line. When the defense is on the field, loud as hell....

It is truly crazy just how quite their crowd gets when Manning is working the offense....

False Start
10-31-2011, 03:55 PM
If you want to know how a home team crowd is suppose to be while their team is on offense, watch the Colts at home. You can literally hear Manning calling out the plays and the audibles at the line. Everybody in that stadium that is a Colts fan is quiet while Manning is at the line. When the defense is on the field, loud as hell....

It is truly crazy just how quite their crowd gets when Manning is working the offense....

Great point.

"Enough about a silly wave. Let's get back to talking about me!" co-signed Mario Williams and Kareem Jackson.

:ahhaha:

Kthx
10-31-2011, 04:01 PM
http://gotitans.com/goForum/showthread.php?t=76448

Apparently the wave has hit another town, 10000 dead, 25000 missing.

gtexan02
10-31-2011, 04:26 PM
If you want to know how a home team crowd is suppose to be while their team is on offense, watch the Colts at home. You can literally hear Manning calling out the plays and the audibles at the line.
This is an interesting point because Manning relies on vocal ability at the line more than any other QB in the NFL. And how many false starts did the Colts of old get on the road? I'm actually curious because they were such a well coached team recently, that I wonder if their road vs home penalties were different. Just counting back the last 4 years, the Colts are 25-7 (3x 6-2, 1x 7-1) at home and 24-8 (1x 4-4, 2x 7-1, 1x 6-2) on the road. The "quiet" at home didn't seem to make much difference, although its difficult to analyze in depth without knowing the line spreads for each game.

But a 1 game difference is not a statistical significance. Especially when you consider that the Colts play in a dome and indoors, and how much that aspect of home field probably means to them.



When the defense is on the field, loud as hell....

It is truly crazy just how quite their crowd gets when Manning is working the offense....

Good "Colts pump in fan noise" and see how much respect you have for their fans after that. They're notorious for creating a false sense of fandom

Grams
10-31-2011, 04:44 PM
Seriously, 150 posts because the fans at the game did the wave??

Really????

I was watching the game on TV and I never noticed the wave or a lot of noise while the Texans were on offense till I read it on here.

Seems like some are making a mountain out or a molehill. Guess you have to have somthing to complain about - with the Texans winning, some sure have to dig deep to find something.

Dutchrudder
10-31-2011, 04:47 PM
I have never seen 'The Wave' outside of a baseball stadium. Do football crowds normally do this?

Dr2bKay
10-31-2011, 05:07 PM
How many of you have actually ever been to away games? I've seen the wave at multiple NFL stadiums. I've seen it in Foxboro. I've seen it in DC. Why is it that only Texans fan are so self-insulting. We are worse to each other than other fan bases are to their rivals.

I have been to a hell of a lot of stadiums and the results have been consistent. I have never seen a crowd yelling loudly when their team had the ball..... never to the degree of noise that crowd was making on Sunday. I can always hear a pin drop when their guys have the ball....

carry on.....

gtexan02
10-31-2011, 05:15 PM
I have been to a hell of a lot of stadiums and the results have been consistent. I have never seen a crowd yelling loudly when their team had the ball..... never to the degree of noise that crowd was making on Sunday. I can always hear a pin drop when their guys have the ball....

carry on.....

Lol, well I'm pretty sure we've been to the same games in the past and I distinctly remember the fans doing the wave.

Dr2bKay
10-31-2011, 05:20 PM
Lol, well I'm pretty sure we've been to the same games in the past and I distinctly remember the fans doing the wave.

We probably have. I think that I hooked you up with a tailgate one time in DC.

I didn't post that opposing fans did not do the "wave dance". The issue isn't the "wave dance", it is the crowd noise when your offense has the ball.

tielahr
10-31-2011, 05:23 PM
I apologize on being ignorant to some of the facts that may be posted here on the subject, I didn't read through all 8 pages about the wave, but I just wanted to add my two-cents: :kitten:

First off I think with all the complaining Texans fans do about this team not being elite, if there is something a fan can do to help this organization. Do it.
That being said, it greatly helps the offense when it is dead silent in the stadium while they're putting together a drive. Then, with all that pent up energy the fans can scream their heads off when the D is out there. I can't count all of the times I've seen Schaub squeezing his helmet trying to listen to the play on an intense 4th quarter come-back. Those are the times when the fans need to be the most quiet.

So in regards of doing the wave. Personally, I think it's lame. But who cares about my opinion. What everyone should care about as a fan is to be SILENT when the offense is out.

Just sayin'. :worm:

Double Barrel
10-31-2011, 05:23 PM
If your own team is telling you to shut-up you are wrong.

hehe, one sentence says it all. Well said, man.

Although, it's tough to pay attention to the screen (and offense on the field) when you're watching the wave get
closer and closer to you aND THEN WHOAH! YEAh that was so much fun...

Yup. Add in wasted timeouts. It is really obvious a lot of the time when noise causes a problem.

When you see an opposing QB looking at the sideline, holding his hands on his helmet holes, and shrugging at the OC because he can't hear the play...yeah, crowd noise doesn't make a difference [/sarcasm]...

I have never seen 'The Wave' outside of a baseball stadium. Do football crowds normally do this?

I've see it at college games, but do not recall it happening much at Texans games.

Speaking of baseball, I have yet to figure out when you're supposed to yell. I've see it when the Astros were playing both offense and defense, and for the life of me, I still can't figure out the logic. It's so simple with football...

BTW, for the pro-wave folks, I'm not calling you lesser fans by any means. I just like the idea of fans being a true "12th man" for our defense, because any competitive edge - even the slightest - is cool to me as a fan, especially being a small part of it. But, for it to happen, it has to be opportunistic, and the defense has to respond accordingly. Bad defenses cannot be made better by the crowd. That much I know for certain.

rush2112mn
10-31-2011, 05:25 PM
I have been to a hell of a lot of stadiums and the results have been consistent. I have never seen a crowd yelling loudly when their team had the ball..... never to the degree of noise that crowd was making on Sunday. I can always hear a pin drop when their guys have the ball....

carry on.....

No Kidding.....
I can attest to that too....
I have been up to Indy for road games against the Colts.....You could here a pin drop when Payton is trying to call a play.

Maddict5
10-31-2011, 05:30 PM
I'm not complaining about the offense, I'm complaining about the bland offensive play-calling. run, run, pass, punt. All I'm saying is mix it up a little bit... run, pass, pass, punt. Pass, run, run, punt....


It's not difficult to get my attention.


1. what we were doing was working. 21 pts (shoulda been 24) thru 3 q's against a stellar D. sorry if winning football bores you. you mightnt enjoy the rest of the season

2. ask the ravens how being pass happy v the jags goes for you

3. i already told you the offence had been mixing it up throwing on 1st down on two of the 5 plays on the td drive before the wave & throughout the 3 q, which shows up your 'protest' rationale as pure bs

TimeKiller
10-31-2011, 05:49 PM
If you want to know how a home team crowd is suppose to be while their team is on offense, watch the Colts at home. You can literally hear Manning calling out the plays and the audibles at the line. Everybody in that stadium that is a Colts fan is quiet while Manning is at the line. When the defense is on the field, loud as hell....

It is truly crazy just how quite their crowd gets when Manning is working the offense....

Peyton Manning. THE Peyton Manning. Gee I wonder why people have more respect for Peyton Manning and the Colties....let's see here....why......hmm.....

I'm all out of ideas.


I seriously love this. I'm going to start a wave every drive lol....

NoFunLeague

If it was wrong, then why did it feel so good? And since this is literally everyone who was at the game that WASN'T waving...where are the 70,000 or so who were?

Alright I'll compromise. I'll start a wave at the beginning of every defensive stand so it doesn't offend the other 80 people who weren't doing it to begin with. In fact, we'll coordinate with someone from the other side, we'll do it at the same time, both clockwise and call it the Texan's Tornado. The goal is to start it, get it going and then get everyone to keep it going and also to keep going faster and faster until it's just a big wooshing, swirling, angry chorus and everyone is up and cheering for a big 3rd down stop. It will be an undeniable stamp. The cherry on top of this renewed defense. An identity. It will be awesome.

Oh yeah, how come we don't do that? Because let's face it, we're not THAT good of a fanbase. We don't have a simple J E T S JETS JETS JETS chant. We're not known for being loud or...on time. Our fanbase doesn't encompass much territory. We've got no songs (I don't count whatever that fuuutbaww tiiime in hyyoouuuckston crap is). We have a team name which describes a heavy portion of the people playing the game and yet have so little success to show for it.

There was a wave. Then there was a wave of tears. I'm out on this thread. Unless it goes another 20 pages...............................

Heath Shuler
10-31-2011, 06:07 PM
I think the vast overwhelming majority of people here get it; when the home team has the ball, be quiet. For the handful of yall that winning football is not entertaining enough and/or you want to “protest” the offense, here you go:
If you want the team to run the ball and they pass it: lead everyone in the macarena
If you want the team to pass the ball and they run it: the locomotion
If you want the team to go for it on fourth down: the YMCA

Ryan
10-31-2011, 06:10 PM
If you want something to b*tch about from yesterday's game, b*tch at whoever plans halftime shows, because the band that performed at half time from some school in this area conveniently wore Jags colors.

Heath Shuler
10-31-2011, 06:11 PM
Then bring your ass out to Reliant & tell them to stop. Don't be sitting on your couch telling us how ignorant we are.

If you want to help the Texans win, be there & stop the wave.

if it was only that easy

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 06:22 PM
1. what we were doing was working. 21 pts (shoulda been 24) thru 3 q's against a stellar D. sorry if winning football bores you. you mightnt enjoy the rest of the season

2. ask the ravens how being pass happy v the jags goes for you

3. i already told you the offence had been mixing it up throwing on 1st down on two of the 5 plays on the td drive before the wave & throughout the 3 q, which shows up your 'protest' rationale as pure bs

Still, nobody said anything about being pass happy. The play calls last week were much better, get Arian open in space.

Say what you want, I was there. I personally know 30 people who were in close proximity of me & we know when to make noise & when not to make noise.

When we saw what was going on on the field, we made a conscious decision to do the wave. After the false start, we were still doing the wave because we didn't agree with the play calling or the execution.

We stopped after the fumble... I felt a little guilty & culpable..... but hey, you go ahead & make up your mind about people you don't know about a situation you don't know about, because you weren't there.

False Start
10-31-2011, 06:32 PM
we need something to break up this animosity....:thinking:

:user:


http://www.animateit.net/data/media/august2009/mwave.gif

Maddict5
10-31-2011, 06:37 PM
Still, nobody said anything about being pass happy. The play calls last week were much better, get Arian open in space.

Say what you want, I was there. I personally know 30 people who were in close proximity of me & we know when to make noise & when not to make noise.

When we saw what was going on on the field, we made a conscious decision to do the wave. After the false start, we were still doing the wave because we didn't agree with the play calling or the execution.

We stopped after the fumble... I felt a little guilty & culpable..... but hey, you go ahead & make up your mind about people you don't know about a situation you don't know about, because you weren't there.

you were at a football game we were winning.. not some war or other atrocity so ease up on the ('you just dont understand, you werent there' *breaksdown*) scarred hero persona there

you see the same 'boring' playcalls & execution whether you're at the stadium or watching on tv (prob ever better than most of the crowd who had the sun in their eyes) so dont act like you had some insight just because you were there.

why'd you stop doing the wave? we ran the (same boring) shit out of the ball on the drive after too. why not continue your 'protest' to really show how strongly you felt then too?

Norg
10-31-2011, 07:00 PM
Thanks for the rational thoughts, gtexan. For all of the comments here accusing other fans of being stupid, uninformed, etc. This is the most thoughtful comment I've seen.

Let's assume that the crowd noise was completely responsible for the false start penalty. This seems fair enough to me.

First, the stadium was not loud during this. It was certainly not dead quiet, but to characterize the stadium's noise level as 'loud' during the wave incident is just not accurate. In fact, it was a whisper compared to what the Texans offense is likely to experience during ANY road playoff game in the NFL.

If this offense cannot play through that low level of crowd noise, then many of you will soon have plenty more to complain about than an unruly home crowd.

I know right if the texans cant handle this then a road Playoff game u might has well chalk it up there done

ATXtexanfan
10-31-2011, 07:01 PM
so are we doing the wave next week or not?

Norg
10-31-2011, 07:03 PM
so are we doing the wave next week or not?

Naaaaa colt mcoy is in town what did they used 2 do at longhorn stadium lets do that LOL

On D tho so nobody cries LOL

zanth91
10-31-2011, 07:10 PM
I think its silly to think the wave caused the penalty or fumble. I don't like the wave because I think its outdated and played out. That's just my personal opinion. But I also think the bored argument is pretty weak too. If we're getting bored with winning then something is wrong.

I never said bored I said least interesting. We're up in the 4th and everyone knows we're running the ball. I can argue that fans were doing the wave celebrating not just the success in that game but the entire season and the fact that we're in control of the AFC South. I suspect towards the end of the season we'll see a lot of things we're not accustom to in Reliant as we've never been in this situation before (assuming we hold this lead).

Norg
10-31-2011, 07:13 PM
I never said bored I said least interesting. We're up in the 4th and everyone knows we're running the ball. I can argue that fans were doing the wave celebrating not just the success in that game but the entire season and the fact that we're in control of the AFC South. I suspect towards the end of the season we'll see a lot of things we're not accustom to in Reliant as we've never been in this situation before (assuming we hold this lead).

Lets hope so after 10 years of misery .....right now this feels good its like unknown terr LOL

Buffi2
10-31-2011, 08:43 PM
I will issue a decree. No score and 27 hours ago. The Texan Faithful (well most of them decided to do a wave) while the Texans had the ball. The football "purists" were not amused. From this day forward, in order to pacify the football "purists" moans and groans. No wave shall be established or any entertaining sound or movement shall proceed during the Texans' drive. May the Good Lord have mercy on all our souls.

:hurrah: Now that is funny.

Rep coming your way.

Texan_Bill
10-31-2011, 09:05 PM
"The wave"????


REALLY??!?! Stop it please. If anyone, ever in sections 115, 116, 117 or 118 starts "the wave" please expect a visit from my fist to your junk!!! That is all.

stingray
10-31-2011, 09:17 PM
I don't really care if people want to start a wave. I have learned to not let small stuff like that bother me. But just a thought. It's really hard to start a wave during a defensive series in a close game since most of the stadium is standing and yelling. Just saying.

Nawzer
10-31-2011, 09:23 PM
Let's see if the fans at Arrowhead Stadium start a wave tonight. Something tells me they won't.

Kthx
10-31-2011, 09:23 PM
"The wave"????


REALLY??!?! Stop it please. If anyone, ever in sections 115, 116, 117 or 118 starts "the wave" please expect a visit from my fist to your junk!!! That is all.

If you were chuck norris you could just punch the wave itself.

Wolf
10-31-2011, 09:27 PM
AJ's take

The bad:

The fans. What a terrible showing today. Arrived late, left early, sat on their hands until some fools in the upper reaches of the south end zone started the 'wave' when the Texans had the ball on a key drive in the fourth quarter. I couldn't believe my eyes and ears. The Texans had just forced a three-and-out and got the ball back in good field position with 11:35 remaining in the game. They had the lead (21-7) and the momentum, and were poised for a clock killing drive to put the Jags out of their misery. Instead, some geniuses decide that they're bored and start the wave which to my horror, picked up in intensity to the point where it caused Mike Brisiel to false start on a 2nd and 9 with 9:49 remaining. The stadium scoreboard operators frantically put up the "Quiet Offense at Work" thing on the big screen but it was too late. The clueless Texans fans/lemmings were having too much fun looking at each other and jumping up and down than to worry about what was going on with the game. One play after Brisiel's false start, Ben Tate fumbled and the momentum swung to the Jags who seven plays later cut the lead to 21-14. The Texans run a "Best Fans in the National Football League" segment before games to honor the home crowd (AC/DC's "For those about to rock, we salute you) complete with fire coming out of the chute where the players enter the field and fake crowd noise pumped in through the sound system. Best fans in the NFL? I don't think so. The Texans have a small core of great fans, but collectively they're far from the best in the NFL. What happened today was as dumb as it gets in terms of fans 'getting it.'

http://www.examiner.com/houston-texans-in-houston/texans-win-ugly-but-it-s-better-than-the-alternative

thunderkyss
10-31-2011, 09:33 PM
If not for the wave, we'd be talking about the offensive struggles, Kubiak's bland playcalling, or the guys taking their foot off the gas & struggling to finish games.

Ckw
10-31-2011, 09:50 PM
More fuel for the theory that with rising prices on tickets, parking, concessions, & PSLs, the Texans, and most teams, have priced out their most of their passionate and knowledgeable fans.

And boom goes the dynamite.

Luv_ya_blue
10-31-2011, 10:15 PM
I'm tempted to lock this thread.

You don't have a hair on your hiney if you don't!!!

:locked::locked::locked::locked::locked:

Norg
10-31-2011, 11:17 PM
They did show the wave on tv for a sec and also showed Kubes and that D line coach i think shake his head LOL

Kimmy
11-01-2011, 01:22 AM
I'm tempted to lock this thread.



For the love of all Holy, please do!

Texn4life
11-01-2011, 01:48 AM
I've been gone for most of the day only to come back and find this thread is still going strong???? We have officially hit the twilight zone as a fan base. Is there anyway we can now move on to the Browns?

Kthx
11-01-2011, 08:36 AM
What, did the browns have a wave in their stadium also? What is more important than this thread at this point in the season.

House of Pain
11-01-2011, 09:27 AM
FWIW Owen Daniels commented on 790 this morning that the wave was loud and he loves the wave, but it needs to be done on defense.

SheTexan
11-01-2011, 09:45 AM
Just for fun, and to keep this thread going to tick a few of you off, :aggressive: j/k. A friend of mine told me the wave started in the upper corner of the 600 section and it took them a while to get it started. SOOOOO, maybe in their defense, our D was on the field when they tried to get it going, it just took a while. It's not something that happens every game, and hell, it was our Halloween game, so maybe some of our fans were still giddy from partying half the night Sat and it carried over to Sunday. Who knows. Just fans having a little fun, and showing some excitement, just at the wrong time. Next time, DON'T participate, and yell at the fans around you that our O is on the field! Stop the momentum before it gets going.

silvrhand
11-01-2011, 10:25 AM
Lol.. wow this thread hasn't died yet.. So what the fans did the wave.. they were having fun at a game OMG.. was it the best timing no.. was it fun well yah it was fun. Did it cause the Ben Tate fumble.. no.. sorry that's on Ben.

To grandma's point it just can't be shut on or off it takes a while, and what it has happened 2 or 3 times in the last few years, and only once when the offense.. I think the texans and the fans have other bigger fish to fry..

Luv_ya_blue
11-01-2011, 01:09 PM
FWIW Owen Daniels commented on 790 this morning that the wave was loud and he loves the wave, but it needs to be done on defense.

Pish-Posh...
What does HE know?

:wadepalm:

HTown2ATX
11-01-2011, 01:55 PM
WAIT....so the wave at Reliant cause this kind of thread.....that actually survived this long and brought out the fan police too.

Hilarious...........:kubepalm:

Kudos to some drunk fans at the game creating a shit storm lol.

2slik4u
11-01-2011, 02:02 PM
I cant believe this thread is still going on.

gtexan02
11-01-2011, 02:04 PM
(stands up and raises his hands over his head. Sits back down)

C Madd
11-01-2011, 02:07 PM
(stands up and raises his hands over his head. Sits back down)

Not while the thread is on Offense!

Craig.
11-01-2011, 02:40 PM
Next time, DON'T participate, and yell at the fans around you that our O is on the field! Stop the momentum before it gets going.

:wadepalm:

Kimmy
11-01-2011, 08:51 PM
Couldn't resist ... now we have photographic evidence of the guilty parties. Tag yourself ;)

http://media.khou.com/images/600*401/texansfanssmorrow45.jpg

Texn4life
11-01-2011, 08:56 PM
Couldn't resist ... now we have photographic evidence of the guilty parties. Tag yourself ;)

http://media.khou.com/images/600*401/texansfanssmorrow45.jpg

That's hilarious!!!! How about the lazy fans who are doing a half wave while they're still sitting down? :kubepalm:

Lauren
11-01-2011, 08:58 PM
Couldn't resist ... now we have photographic evidence of the guilty parties. Tag yourself ;)

http://media.khou.com/images/600*401/texansfanssmorrow45.jpg
Who is wearing the fanny pack? FESS UP!

Luv_ya_blue
11-01-2011, 10:13 PM
Who is wearing the fanny pack? FESS UP!

Oh Dang!!!
:kubepalm:
That fanny pack looks like it's got one of those seat belt extendors, like you get on the airlines!!!

ESAD2-14
11-01-2011, 10:33 PM
Who is wearing the fanny pack? FESS UP!

That fanny pack has a kid riding in it. So its one of those kid ruck sack things, only worn on the front. If it was a fanny pack it would be a failure though, as the positioning is off. It is not stylishly positioned slightly to the side/oblique area of the torso, as any individual would know if they had paid attention in the 80's/90's. :kitten:

So in this photo we have the perpetrators of the "outdated" wave (wasn't aware that these things had an expiration date), and it looks to be the "Anti-wave we wrote the manual on how to be real fans who purchased season tickets so we are better then fans who sit at home and watch the game on tv" crowd about mid-upper left area of the pic.

ATXtexanfan
11-02-2011, 12:02 PM
i'll do it if you do it

Double Barrel
11-02-2011, 12:34 PM
The 1980's called and they want their fad back.

Signed,

The Macarena, people who say "oooooo" for every player with "oo" or "u" in the name, and Who Lets the Dogs Out.

But let's be real: if you enjoyed the ReliantWorld GameDay Experience®, the game is only a pretext for The Wave. :wiggle:

Vinny
11-02-2011, 12:38 PM
The 1980's called and they want their fad back.


After Battle Red day, Surrender White and Steel Blue days, the Marketing guru's up on Fannin are gonna have 70-80's throwback fan day. The fans come dressed as Love Ya Blue fans, curse black QB's, wear tiedye wigs while holding John 3:16 signs, and half the stadium will be in Crazy George outfits (as a bonus some of us don't even have to shave the middle of our heads). The Texans tie this in with losing a big lead to a backup QB and for the first time - the team will fail to beat the 72 hour TV blackout deadline.

ThaShark316
11-02-2011, 12:59 PM
After Battle Red day, Surrender White and Steel Blue days, the Marketing guru's up on Fannin are gonna have 70-80's throwback fan day. The fans come dressed as Love Ya Blue fans, curse black QB's, wear tiedye wigs while holding John 3:16 signs, and half the stadium will be in Crazy George outfits (as a bonus some of us don't even have to shave the middle of our heads). The Texans tie this in with losing a big lead to a backup QB and for the first time, the team will fail to beat the 72 hour TV blackout deadline.

Epic post is epic. LMAO @ curse black QBs.

El Tejano
11-02-2011, 01:41 PM
After Battle Red day, Surrender White and Steel Blue days, the Marketing guru's up on Fannin are gonna have 70-80's throwback fan day. The fans come dressed as Love Ya Blue fans, curse black QB's, wear tiedye wigs while holding John 3:16 signs, and half the stadium will be in Crazy George outfits (as a bonus some of us don't even have to shave the middle of our heads). The Texans tie this in with losing a big lead to a backup QB and for the first time - the team will fail to beat the 72 hour TV blackout deadline.

Oh the bittersweet memories.

Double Barrel
11-02-2011, 03:19 PM
After Battle Red day, Surrender White and Steel Blue days, the Marketing guru's up on Fannin are gonna have 70-80's throwback fan day. The fans come dressed as Love Ya Blue fans, curse black QB's, wear tiedye wigs while holding John 3:16 signs, and half the stadium will be in Crazy George outfits (as a bonus some of us don't even have to shave the middle of our heads). The Texans tie this in with losing a big lead to a backup QB and for the first time - the team will fail to beat the 72 hour TV blackout deadline.

And that's what we call: The Good Ol' Days :bender:

michaelm
11-02-2011, 03:23 PM
After Battle Red day, Surrender White and Steel Blue days, the Marketing guru's up on Fannin are gonna have 70-80's throwback fan day. The fans come dressed as Love Ya Blue fans, curse black QB's, wear tiedye wigs while holding John 3:16 signs, and half the stadium will be in Crazy George outfits (as a bonus some of us don't even have to shave the middle of our heads). The Texans tie this in with losing a big lead to a backup QB and for the first time - the team will fail to beat the 72 hour TV blackout deadline.

Someone needs to leave tickets for Elvis in will-call.

gtexan02
11-02-2011, 06:32 PM
Sounds like some insecure older fans in here :)
Maybe us young fans need to go through our growing period before we can become as football savy as the rest of you. :whistle:

Double Barrel
11-02-2011, 06:43 PM
Sounds like some insecure older fans in here :)
Maybe us young fans need to go through our growing period before we can become as football savy as the rest of you. :whistle:

If by "insecure" you mean "intelligent football fans", then yes. :fingergun:

You see, some of us go to games to, you know, actually watch the game and not watch what other fans are doing. As a matter of fact, some of us geezers used to go to games before there was a GameDay Experience, 3D souvenir cups, tailgating, and a dude dressed in a bull costume. ahhh, those were ancient times, when a team was actually expected to win in order to sell out a stadium. :D

The Pencil Neck
11-02-2011, 06:44 PM
Sounds like some insecure older fans in here :)
Maybe us young fans need to go through our growing period before we can become as football savy as the rest of you. :whistle:

You will never be as football savvy as us.

You're too damned young and however much older you get, you'll still be younger than us.

Hell. You can't even spell 'savvy' right. WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU!?

:wadepalm:

Kids these days.

House of Pain
11-02-2011, 06:46 PM
After Red Battle day, Surrender White and Steel Blue days, the Marketing guru's up on Fannin are gonna have 70-80's throwback fan day. The fans come dressed as Love Ya Blue fans, curse black QB's, wear tiedye wigs while holding John 3:16 signs, and half the stadium will be in Crazy George outfits (as a bonus some of us don't even have to shave the middle of our heads). The Texans tie this in with losing a big lead to a backup QB and for the first time - the team will fail to beat the 72 hour TV blackout deadline.

Fixed that for ya!

Marv :kubepalm:

Lucky
11-02-2011, 09:37 PM
I haven't read the entire thread (if you can believe that), so this may have already been covered. But what if two waves were originated in opposite directions? What would happen we these irresitable forces collided on the opposite side of the field? An explosion? An implosion? A confused yawn? Inquiring minds want to know.

Kimmy
11-02-2011, 09:59 PM
I haven't read the entire thread (if you can believe that), so this may have already been covered. But what if two waves were originated in opposite directions? What would happen we these irresitable forces collided on the opposite side of the field? An explosion? An implosion? A confused yawn? Inquiring minds want to know.

Inception. :Nods:

C Madd
11-03-2011, 11:14 AM
Inception. :Nods:

A wave within a wave.

False Start
11-03-2011, 11:21 AM
http://www.animateit.net/data/media/august2009/mwave.gif

Marcus
11-03-2011, 11:33 AM
I haven't read this this entire thread either, and I wouldn't if you paid me. But the way I see it, if you're taking part in the wave, then you're not watching the game. And if you don't want to watch the game, you should give your seat/ticket up to somebody who wants to.

You don't see other teams fans doing this nonsense when the offense is on the field. If you haven't been there before, at least try to act like it.

Calface4
11-03-2011, 11:39 AM
I haven't read this this entire thread either, and I wouldn't if you paid me. But the way I see it, if you're taking part in the wave, then you're not watching the game. And if you don't want to watch the game, you should give your seat/ticket up to somebody who wants to.

You don't see other teams fans doing this nonsense when the offense is on the field. If you haven't been there before, at least try to act like it.

Its not that the people doing the wave weren't watching the game... They were just being distracting to our offense on the field while having a little fun haha. But anyways, I don't agree with "the wave" while our offense is on the field but considering the Texans pretty much had the game in their back pocket... I really don't think its that big of a deal.

Double Barrel
11-03-2011, 12:08 PM
Okay, wave-lovers, here's the skinny:

Schaub: Stop Doing The Wave (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2011/10/31/schaub-stop-doing-the-wave/)

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ericwinston (via Twitter) Eric Winston (http://twitter.com/#!/ericwinston)
Wtf was that?Thanks for not doing it RT @tcumike:Congrats on another win.I apologize on behalf of the fans for the wave.I DIDN'T PARTICIPATE

disaacks3
11-03-2011, 12:18 PM
Okay, wave-lovers, here's the skinny:

Schaub: Stop Doing The Wave (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2011/10/31/schaub-stop-doing-the-wave/)

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ericwinston (via Twitter) Eric Winston (http://twitter.com/#!/ericwinston)
Wtf was that?Thanks for not doing it RT @tcumike:Congrats on another win.I apologize on behalf of the fans for the wave.I DIDN'T PARTICIPATE

If they can't concentrate with the wave going on, how in the world will they ever survive in opposing stadiums?

It was loud, but not LOUD. There no reason it should have been an issue for our Offense. Scapegoating the fans for something that lasted (at most) 4 minutes is nuts.

Runner
11-03-2011, 12:20 PM
Key to beating the Texans:

Have the fans do the wave. Apparently some of our offensive players and coaching staff find it very distracting.

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Great thread. I wonder if it can reach "Orlando Pace visits the Texans" proportions? Probably not, since it isn't in the off-season and it will be overtaken by more current events soon.

infantrycak
11-03-2011, 12:20 PM
Apparently threads don't die of self-inflicted stupidity. Go figure.

Hardcore Texan
11-03-2011, 12:31 PM
If they can't concentrate with the wave going on, how in the world will they ever survive in opposing stadiums?

It was loud, but not LOUD. There no reason it should have been an issue for our Offense. Scapegoating the fans for something that lasted (at most) 4 minutes is nuts.

Key to beating the Texans:

Have the fans do the wave. Apparently some of our offensive players and coaching staff find it very distracting.

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Great thread. I wonder if it can reach "Orlando Pace visits the Texans" proportions? Probably not, since it isn't in the off-season and it will be overtaken by more current events soon.

My thoughts exactly. Why is everyone up in arms over this? Who cares? I get that we need to be quiet on offense (duh) and I always am, but how does that really affect the offense, the answer is: it shouldn't. We still have 8 road games a year right?

gtexan02
11-03-2011, 01:01 PM
If by "insecure" you mean "intelligent football fans", then yes. :fingergun:

You see, some of us go to games to, you know, actually watch the game and not watch what other fans are doing. As a matter of fact, some of us geezers used to go to games before there was a GameDay Experience, 3D souvenir cups, tailgating, and a dude dressed in a bull costume. ahhh, those were ancient times, when a team was actually expected to win in order to sell out a stadium. :D

Wait, wait, wait a minute. I can deal with 2D cups, but no bull mascot? :cow:

You forgot the best part, which is the football hiding in one of 3 helmets. Now that is fun.

gtexan02
11-03-2011, 01:03 PM
Okay, wave-lovers, here's the skinny:

Schaub: Stop Doing The Wave (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2011/10/31/schaub-stop-doing-the-wave/)

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ericwinston (via Twitter) Eric Winston (http://twitter.com/#!/ericwinston)
Wtf was that?Thanks for not doing it RT @tcumike:Congrats on another win.I apologize on behalf of the fans for the wave.I DIDN'T PARTICIPATE

I can't listen to it at work, so I have no idea what he said in context. But based on the post, I'm just going with what I've got. And if he called out the fans for cheering too much, then wow, lame move on Schaub's part. Right or wrong, when a player calls out the fans.... not a smart move.

Bite the hand that feeds you and everything..

TEXANRED
11-03-2011, 01:10 PM
If by "insecure" you mean "intelligent football fans", then yes. :fingergun:

You see, some of us go to games to, you know, actually watch the game and not watch what other fans are doing. As a matter of fact, some of us geezers used to go to games before there was a GameDay Experience, 3D souvenir cups, tailgating, and a dude dressed in a bull costume. ahhh, those were ancient times, when a team was actually expected to win in order to sell out a stadium. :D

You just had to worry about Crazy George busting your ear drum.

TEXANRED
11-03-2011, 01:17 PM
If you're bitching about the wave you have turned into this guy.

http://i939.photobucket.com/albums/ad236/TEXANRED/offlawn.jpg
Stay off my LAWN ya damn kids!!!!!

thunderkyss
11-03-2011, 02:01 PM
Okay, wave-lovers, here's the skinny:

Schaub: Stop Doing The Wave (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2011/10/31/schaub-stop-doing-the-wave/)

------------------------------------

ericwinston (via Twitter) Eric Winston (http://twitter.com/#!/ericwinston)
Wtf was that?Thanks for not doing it RT @tcumike:Congrats on another win.I apologize on behalf of the fans for the wave.I DIDN'T PARTICIPATE

I wonder if Schaub is interested in a few suggestions...

:kitten:

Speedy
11-03-2011, 02:46 PM
I wonder if Schaub is interested in a few suggestions...

:kitten:

From fans? Especially fans that do the freaking wave and make a bunch of noise when we're on offense? No, I don't think he needs any suggestions from those people.

thunderkyss
11-03-2011, 02:55 PM
From fans? Especially fans that do the freaking wave and make a bunch of noise when we're on offense? No, I don't think he needs any suggestions from those people.

& we don't need any from him.

silvrhand
11-03-2011, 03:17 PM
bah taking that down lol.

Maddict5
11-03-2011, 03:19 PM
& we don't need any from him.

ha im dying here...so its ok for you to demand stupid shit like 'call better plays' but if schaub has the nerve to ask for a bit of quiet on offence at home, the ignorant go mad at him

silvrhand
11-03-2011, 03:22 PM
ha im dying here...so its ok for you to demand stupid shit like 'call better plays' but if schaub has the nerve to ask for a bit of quiet on offence at home, the ignorant go mad at him

I was at the game, the wave really wasn't that loud.. it's always a lot louder in that stadium. You would think they would be happy they the fans are actually having fun.

Hardcore Texan
11-03-2011, 03:38 PM
Slow news day I guess :shrug:

Norg
11-03-2011, 03:49 PM
After a long week at work and in these trouble econimic times and drought and drepression of the on coming hectic holiday season the people of houston acctually united and sequenced into doing something together thus the wave was bound to happen lol

Double Barrel
11-03-2011, 04:01 PM
If they can't concentrate with the wave going on, how in the world will they ever survive in opposing stadiums?

It was loud, but not LOUD. There no reason it should have been an issue for our Offense. Scapegoating the fans for something that lasted (at most) 4 minutes is nuts.

*sigh*

You do realize that they gameplan different for road games, yeah?

For instance, they practice hand signals and specific plays to be called when they know that they are going to deal with a hostile crowd. They also bring in massive speakers into the practice bubble to condition themselves for the noise distractions.

I guess they did not realize that they would have to do it for their own homefield crowd, who doesn't have the sense to not help the other team.

He's not scapegoating anything. They just expect homefield fans to be smarter about this situation. If anything, their expectations are too high. :hmmm:

Ya'll are going to crack me up if you do this during a playoff game at Reliant. And you can defend it until you're blue in the face, but ESPN, NFLN, and the rest of the league are going to see it for what it really is at the end of the day.

Wait, wait, wait a minute. I can deal with 2D cups, but no bull mascot? :cow:

You forgot the best part, which is the football hiding in one of 3 helmets. Now that is fun.

d'oh! Always pick the first one!

Although, you whippersnappers do miss out on one badass thing...

The Helmet Car!!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/59/170715903_d3d70a0c88.jpg


I can't listen to it at work, so I have no idea what he said in context. But based on the post, I'm just going with what I've got. And if he called out the fans for cheering too much, then wow, lame move on Schaub's part. Right or wrong, when a player calls out the fans.... not a smart move.

Bite the hand that feeds you and everything..

He's not biting anyone. He was asked a question, and he gave an honest answer.

Do you really think he'd lie about crowd noise and it's effect on the offense? Jeesh, this is Football 101 stuff. I'm really surprised that so many are bamboozled by the ReliantWorld GameDay Experience® that you cannot comprehend basic homefield strategy.

You just had to worry about Crazy George busting your ear drum.

lol! Funny enough, I met him (again) at a Houston Stallions game a few months ago. His business card claims that he invented the wave! :D

Crazy George (http://www.krazygeorge.com/indexFS.html)

KRAZY GEORGE INVENTED THE WAVE
On October 15, 1981
At the Oakland A’s New York Yanks Playoff Game.
This caused the whole world to stand up and cheer
as the wave circles stadiums around the world

p.s. I'm not calling any of you lesser fans or even calling you out. I'm just having fun with the subject. Silly stuff in the end. :joker:

Marcus
11-03-2011, 04:27 PM
p.s. I'm not calling any of you lesser fans or even calling you out. I'm just having fun with the subject. Silly stuff in the end. :joker:

I don't think it's as much not knowing Football 101, DB.

Rather, most of them could give a shit if the team wins or not. Winning is not really "entertainment".

Good post, BTW.

Hardcore Texan
11-03-2011, 04:36 PM
Schaub's answer was nice, he wasn't rude or calling the fans out.

Everyone knows to be quiet on offense or should know that.

At the same time, it wasn't that loud. I was there, I did not participate , but no louder that it was if the offense can't deal with that amount of noise I don't know what to say. Regardless whether than game plan for absolutley no noise for home games or not. That wouldn't be too smart, I have heard opposing fans in our OWN stadium make more noise than that.

I guess preparation for home games goes like this:
Cowboys, Steelers or other popular teams, we need to be ready for noise while we are on offense even in our stadium. No biggie.

Jaguars or other less popular team, no noise at all in the stadium ESPECIALLY the wave, or the offense will not be able to function and get an illegal procedure penalty.

LOL.

Vinny
11-03-2011, 04:59 PM
Schaub's answer was nice, he wasn't rude or calling the fans out.

Everyone knows to be quiet on offense or should know that.

At the same time, it wasn't that loud. I was there, I did not participate , but no louder that it was if the offense can't deal with that amount of noise I don't know what to say. Regardless whether than game plan for absolutley no noise for home games or not. That wouldn't be too smart, I have heard opposing fans in our OWN stadium make more noise than that.

I guess preparation for home games goes like this:
Cowboys, Steelers or other popular teams, we need to be ready for noise while we are on offense even in our stadium. No biggie.

Jaguars or other less popular team, no noise at all in the stadium ESPECIALLY the wave, or the offense will not be able to function and get an illegal procedure penalty.

LOL.I donno if you have been to other stadiums but most teams with an educated fan base have fans that are quiet as a mouse when their teams are on offense. Hell, go to Nashville and its amazing how quiet it gets in that stadium. Last time I went, Steve McNair was the QB, but you could hear all his calls clearly every time they were on offense. I attribute that to the high football IQ from the SEC fans in the area, because there wasn't much NFL action around there till then unless you drove down to Atlanta to watch the Falcons. Our fans? Hate to say it, but they have a lot of work to do. I bet they embarrass us in the playoffs with the friggin' wave...while we are on O again to boot. I get a feeling that at least half the stadium is only there for the social event.

Hardcore Texan
11-03-2011, 05:06 PM
We SHOULD be quiet as a mouse, no doubt about it. However, a little noise shouldn't throw the offense off.

The real question to me is how much of that is "corporate seats" that are giving out to people that just aren't anything more than fair weather fans? IDK. And how much of that is related to a LOT of opposing fans in the stadium against certain more popular opponents?

You might be right about the social event angle, IDK.

ArlingtonTexan
11-03-2011, 05:14 PM
This is going to insulting to somebody, if not many somebodies. I never just what was fun about the wave. I stand up, throw my hands in the air and make some noise while waiting for the group next to do the exact same thing. Always seemed like group think where reacting and yelling for no reason was the reason for doing it. I mean, the dude who starts it is always some drunk, attention seeker who barely knows a first down from a touchdown.

Vinny
11-03-2011, 05:16 PM
We SHOULD be quiet as a mouse, no doubt about it. However, a little noise shouldn't throw the offense off.

The real question to me is how much of that is "corporate seats" that are giving out to people that just aren't anything more than fair weather fans? IDK. And how much of that is related to a LOT of opposing fans in the stadium against certain more popular opponents?

You might be right about the social event angle, IDK.
I've sat in those seats the bulk of the games I've gone to and let me tell you...it aint the corporate people starting the wave. They may be starting a conversation with a scantily dressed blonde at the bar, noshing on the 12 dollar buffet style table or paying the waiter for his food that he doesn't have to go stand in line for....club level guy makes more noise ordering a mixed drink than he does starting something like the wave. There aren't many cartoon types in that section.

disaacks3
11-03-2011, 05:25 PM
ha im dying here...so its ok for you to demand stupid shit like 'call better plays' but if schaub has the nerve to ask for a bit of quiet on offence at home, the ignorant go mad at him He had quite a bit MORE than a 'bit' of quiet. You could hear crickets chirping when the Offense kept going silent.

*sigh*

You do realize that they gameplan different for road games, yeah?

For instance, they practice hand signals and specific plays to be called when they know that they are going to deal with a hostile crowd. They also bring in massive speakers into the practice bubble to condition themselves for the noise distractions.

I guess they did not realize that they would have to do it for their own homefield crowd, who doesn't have the sense to not help the other team.

He's not scapegoating anything. They just expect homefield fans to be smarter about this situation. If anything, their expectations are too high. :hmmm: Uhm, yeah, I'm aware of different game-planning for home games, what exactly is you point? Are you saying that our Offense is incapable of "improvising"? That a lineman less than 10 feet from the QB couldn't get the snapcount right because there was a minor level of noise in the stadium? I guess they really can't execute the PAT very well, because the din after scoring a TD never quiets down in time. :rolleyes:

For God's sake, it lasted UNDER five minutes and you know what...all the previous "silence" sure wasn't helping them move the chains very effectively.

Next, I guess we have to keep opposing fans percentages below a certain level to prevent Cowboys/Steelers/Raiders fans from distracting our offense? Yep, you guessed it, they were LOUDER than the "wave noise".

Texans players AND fans need to can the whining on this. Maybe we can be quieter if less fans show up....like All-Tarp stadium? :choke:

Vinny
11-03-2011, 05:36 PM
He had quite a bit MORE than a 'bit' of quiet. You could hear crickets chirping when the Offense kept going silent.

Uhm, yeah, I'm aware of different game-planning for home games, what exactly is you point? Are you saying that our Offense is incapable of "improvising"? That a lineman less than 10 feet from the QB couldn't get the snapcount right because there was a minor level of noise in the stadium? I guess they really can't execute the PAT very well, because the din after scoring a TD never quiets down in time. :rolleyes:

For God's sake, it lasted UNDER five minutes and you know what...all the previous "silence" sure wasn't helping them move the chains very effectively.

Next, I guess we have to keep opposing fans percentages below a certain level to prevent Cowboys/Steelers/Raiders fans from distracting our offense? Yep, you guessed it, they were LOUDER than the "wave noise".

Texans players AND fans need to can the whining on this. Maybe we can be quieter if less fans show up....like All-Tarp stadium? :choke:
so are you saying the Houston fans are incapable of being quiet like in other stadiums around the league or us Houstonians just don't care? Ignorance or apathy? Sounds like you think it doesn't matter. Go yell at Tiger woods sometime as he is getting ready to drive.

silvrhand
11-03-2011, 06:03 PM
so are you saying the Houston fans are incapable of being quiet like in other stadiums around the league or us Houstonians just don't care? Ignorance or apathy? Sounds like you think it doesn't matter. Go yell at Tiger woods sometime as he is getting ready to drive.

Lol.. maybe we could hire some hecklers to sit in the front row and rough up the players.. Wonder if this guy is available..

Sorry Happy Gilmore just sprouted to my brain here total derail, but would be funny to see a heckler follow golfers around.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_THR3SZhbQ_E/S9mfjWgB_NI/AAAAAAAADhw/5c4dY4MNAPA/s1600/Red+Lobster.jpg

TEXANRED
11-03-2011, 06:09 PM
Lol.. maybe we could hire some hecklers to sit in the front row and rough up the players.. Wonder if this guy is available..

Sorry Happy Gilmore just sprouted to my brain here total derail, but would be funny to see a heckler follow golfers around.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_THR3SZhbQ_E/S9mfjWgB_NI/AAAAAAAADhw/5c4dY4MNAPA/s1600/Red+Lobster.jpg

Jackass!

Dutchrudder
11-03-2011, 06:12 PM
FYI, I'll be at the game on Sunday and I won't be doing the wave. Lead by example.

Double Barrel
11-03-2011, 06:19 PM
Uhm, yeah, I'm aware of different game-planning for home games, what exactly is you point?

My point was to educate you about something you seem ignorant about, especially when you make the following statement:

There no reason it should have been an issue for our Offense.

And yet, there's our STARTING QB stating that it is an issue.

So when you suit up and lead an offense in the NFL, perhaps I will elevate your opinion to be equal to that of a professional QB.

Otherwise, you're just defending nonsense for some phantom reason(s).

Are you saying that our Offense is incapable of "improvising"? That a lineman less than 10 feet from the QB couldn't get the snapcount right because there was a minor level of noise in the stadium? I guess they really can't execute the PAT very well, because the din after scoring a TD never quiets down in time. :rolleyes:

You should call Schaub's radio show with your expert opinion and challenge him on it, since you seem incapable and/or unwilling to accept his wisdom as a starting QB in the NFL.

Texans players AND fans need to can the whining on this. Maybe we can be quieter if less fans show up....like All-Tarp stadium?

You see whining, and I see stupid is as stupid does.

And on my side, we have basic logic (i.e. be quiet for your offense, noisy for your defense), and years of NFL history, along with perspective from, you know, the guys that actually play the game.

On your side, we have drunk doofus starting a wave because he's not interested in the game anymore.

Even VY thinks this is goofy. :vincepalm:

disaacks3
11-03-2011, 06:39 PM
so are you saying the Houston fans are incapable of being quiet like in other stadiums around the league or us Houstonians just don't care? Ignorance or apathy? Sounds like you think it doesn't matter. Go yell at Tiger woods sometime as he is getting ready to drive. Actually, I've heard inappropriate noise in numerous NFL stadiums over the years. This is the first time I've heard a player / team whine about it.

My point was to educate you about something you seem ignorant about, especially when you make the following statement:



And yet, there's our STARTING QB stating that it is an issue.

So when you suit up and lead an offense in the NFL, perhaps I will elevate your opinion to be equal to that of a professional QB.

Otherwise, you're just defending nonsense for some phantom reason(s).



You should call Schaub's radio show with your expert opinion and challenge him on it, since you seem incapable and/or unwilling to accept his wisdom as a starting QB in the NFL.



You see whining, and I see stupid is as stupid does.

And on my side, we have basic logic (i.e. be quiet for your offense, noisy for your defense), and years of NFL history, along with perspective from, you know, the guys that actually play the game.

On your side, we have drunk doofus starting a wave because he's not interested in the game anymore.

Even VY thinks this is goofy. :vincepalm:

Wow, namecalling DB, really? :vincepalm:

I'm neither ignorant or unaware of the situation. I was THERE. I was also THERE at the Raiders, Steelers and Cowboys games and the noise was LOUDER at all of them. Logic tells me that if the Offense could handle it in THOSE circumstances, then they should have been able to handle it on Sunday, period.

I neither started the wave, nor made any additional sound when it came round MY way. Wagging a finger at me is pointless. My logic says not to do it, I didn't. I still say it shouldn't have affected any NFL team. I'm not encouraging it to get any louder either.

As for calling Schaub's radio show, I'd love to, but the PANSIES at SR610 couldn't handle any tough callers, so they resorted to texts only from the "callers".

So, keep up the huge hue and cry over what amounts to less than spilt milk if it's what makes you happy. I'd prefer our team to do what happens when a call doesn't go their way.....Shut up and play.

Rey
11-03-2011, 06:51 PM
I think the point is that the fans are creating an unneccesary, additional obstacle for the team to overcome. And yes, crowd noise can really affect the game.

The team shouldn't use that as a crutch, but the fans shouldn't really be making it harder on the team either.

thunderkyss
11-03-2011, 07:18 PM
ha im dying here...so its ok for you to demand stupid shit like 'call better plays' but if schaub has the nerve to ask for a bit of quiet on offence at home, the ignorant go mad at him

I'm getting a little tired of being called ignorant here. That wave had nothing to do with the fans not knowing any better.

I'm usually not one to get on this team for conservative play calling. Or being flat, or choking at unopportune times.

But the fans in the stadium that day had a choice. They could do the wave.... or they could watch the offense. 60,000 of them decided to do the wave.


I remember GP talking about going to the Raiders game. He was very disappointed. halfway through the second Qtr he was sulking in the back of his chair as he waited for the inevitable.

It wasn't until the third, that I had that feeling.

Maybe we should bring up that thread, so we can so who was bitxing about the offense that day.

The fans @ Reliant that day preferred to do the wave than to watch the offense let another one slip away.

That was our third home game this year. That was the same 60,000 season ticket holders... those guys weren't anymore ignorant for all the other games they had been to.

They made a choice, at the very least, instead of asking the "ignorant" fans to be quiet, maybe they should try to figure out why the fans would rather do the wave (it might be the macarena next time) instead of watch them play.

Txn_in_FL
11-03-2011, 07:24 PM
Granted... WOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I thought doing the wave was great as a kid and added... WOOOOOOOOO... fun to my game time experience, but now? Geez... WOOOOOOOOOOO... it gets a tad distracting and a little bit old when you have somebody... WOOOOOOOOOOO... sitting behind you going "C'mon Man, let's start the WAVE" and then acts like... WOOOOOOOOOOO... you're the jackass for thinking he's a jackass.

Why do you think an opposing... WOOOOOOOOOO... teams fan base gets loud when our offense come's on the field? It's bad enough to have them... WOOOOOOOOO... making noise, is there really a need for us to screw our own team over as well?

Hardcore Texan
11-04-2011, 12:53 PM
My point was to educate you about something you seem ignorant about, especially when you make the following statement:



And yet, there's our STARTING QB stating that it is an issue.

So when you suit up and lead an offense in the NFL, perhaps I will elevate your opinion to be equal to that of a professional QB.

Otherwise, you're just defending nonsense for some phantom reason(s).



You should call Schaub's radio show with your expert opinion and challenge him on it, since you seem incapable and/or unwilling to accept his wisdom as a starting QB in the NFL.



You see whining, and I see stupid is as stupid does.

And on my side, we have basic logic (i.e. be quiet for your offense, noisy for your defense), and years of NFL history, along with perspective from, you know, the guys that actually play the game.

On your side, we have drunk doofus starting a wave because he's not interested in the game anymore.

Even VY thinks this is goofy. :vincepalm:


Did you listen to the Schaub interview? I think it was you that posted so pardon me if that is a dumb question.

But my point, to me at least, Schaub kind of sounded ho hum "yeah, golly geeze we shouldn't be making noise on offense as we all know" kind of statement "or yeah we could have done without the noise". I don't recall the exact wording but he was nice about it. I bet if Matt was pressed he would agree that the lack of execution played just as big of a factor in the penalty, at least as much as the crowd did. But that point was never brought up.

It was Vandemeer right after that who said "and there you have it from Matt Schaub, don't make noise on offense". Vandemeer's tone was much stronger than Matt's.

gtexan02
11-04-2011, 02:17 PM
Heres how to solve the problem:

Everyone stand up the whole game.

Hardcore Texan
11-04-2011, 02:26 PM
Heres how to solve the problem:

Everyone stand up the whole game.

Repped!