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mussop
10-26-2011, 12:03 AM
I want to! I'm trying, but it's hard! I feel like a guy that is in love with a beautiful girl but finds out she'd slept with all his friends. Can she change? Will she? There are alot of negatives.

I have no confidence in Kubiak as a leader or his ability to make adjustments. I don't believe Schaub is a QB that can carry a team. I question whether our OL has the mental or physical makeup to control the line of scrimmage against a hard nosed DL.

On D we all know one side of the secondary is going to get picked on and loose alot of the time. I think most see the same things as our weak spots. But despite all the above mentioned short comings and my heart telling me these are insurmountable deficiencies, I'm starting to believe we have a chance to overcome all of them and finally turn the corner and become a real legitimate playoff caliber team.

With the remaining schedule being very favorable, our D starting to pick up the scheme better each week, AJ coming back, Foster returning to last years form and Tate becoming a solid backup option, I could see us starting a momentum swing that could build the confidence in this team and carry us into a new era of consistent winning.

Like I said I'm trying. Help me out here all you optimist. Give me some more positives to hang onto. I really want to start enjoying my football again.

TexansFanatic
10-26-2011, 12:12 AM
If you've been a fan of Houston sports for any length of time and you don't have doubts about your team, you haven't been paying attention.

All we can do is hope to be pleasantly surprised.

Texan_Bill
10-26-2011, 12:20 AM
I just spent 20 minutes typing out a helluva post..

I ****ed it up! :loser:

The Pencil Neck
10-26-2011, 12:22 AM
Dude.

If you don't believe, you don't believe. It's no big thing.

If you think they're going to find some way to screw up this perfect opportunity, if you think Kubiak is a crap HC who can't possibly pull it together, if you think that Schaub has a noodle arm and he's made of glass and doesn't have the heart, if you think that our secondary is swiss cheese that will give up games left and right -- that's fine. There's nothing wrong with that.

If you think they're setting us up just to let us down, then expect that and you won't get let down; you'll just be pleasantly surprised if they actually are able to turn it around and do something.

Make them prove it to you.

But. Just as an aside, think about some other teams around the league. How would you be feeling if you were an Arizona Cardinal fan, or a Titan fan, or a Jag fan, or a Buffalo fan, or a Detroit fan? Take a look at every team out there and think about how you'd feel if you were a fan of that team. Being a fan is a rollercoaster. It's fairly rare for a team to dominate all the way through the season, through the post-season, and win the Super Bowl. Almost every team has ups and downs and lots of teams that eventually win Super Bowls have a lot of questions and doubts during the season.

This team hasn't done anything to make us have anything other than doubts.

And I'm an optimist.

The Pencil Neck
10-26-2011, 12:23 AM
I just spent 20 minutes typing out a helluva post..

I ****ed it up! :loser:

TB!

:wadepalm:

thunderkyss
10-26-2011, 01:38 AM
Hell yeah!! I believe
<<----- check tha Avatar; check the sig...

I want to! I'm trying, but it's hard! I feel like a guy that is in love with a beautiful girl but finds out she'd slept with all his friends. Can she change? Will she? There are alot of negatives.

Dude, she ain't ever going to change, but you fall in love with who you fall in love with. So what are you gonna do?

But this isn't like that at all. This is more like your kids. You send them to school, you buy them books.. but they're still as dumb as a box of rocks.

You keep thinking things will change, the kid will catch on... You switch classrooms, change teachers, buy him pants that fit... & you hope.

That's support.

Some people kick the kid out of the house, disown him, wipe their hands of him & wait for him to get better. Then the kid gets an NFL contract, big-baller, top ten pick.... & all of a sudden, it's all, "Hey son, remember me, you're successful because I showed you that tough love."

That's a bandwagon jumper.


I have no confidence in Kubiak as a leader or his ability to make adjustments. I don't believe Schaub is a QB that can carry a team. I question whether our OL has the mental or physical makeup to control the line of scrimmage against a hard nosed DL.

On D we all know one side of the secondary is going to get picked on and loose alot of the time. I think most see the same things as our weak spots. But despite all the above mentioned short comings and my heart telling me these are insurmountable deficiencies, I'm starting to believe we have a chance to overcome all of them and finally turn the corner and become a real legitimate playoff caliber team.

With the remaining schedule being very favorable, our D starting to pick up the scheme better each week, AJ coming back, Foster returning to last years form and Tate becoming a solid backup option, I could see us starting a momentum swing that could build the confidence in this team and carry us into a new era of consistent winning.

Like I said I'm trying. Help me out here all you optimist. Give me some more positives to hang onto. I really want to start enjoying my football again.

Got any brothers? Remember when you always picked on him, but when someone ragged on him, or tried to kick his ass, you stepped in... "Nobody hits my brother but me!!"

This is what it is. No one expects you to be blind, put your head in the sand, or anything like that. Cross your fingers every Sunday, say a few words to the man upstairs... & cheer your ass off.

Win, lose, or draw, enjoy the ride.
:koolaid:

Malloy
10-26-2011, 02:00 AM
Lets just say I have hope and leave it at that :)

Thanks for sharing btw :)

ThaShark316
10-26-2011, 03:02 AM
Never understood this whole "I'm a Houston fan" thing like we have no major titles in the city's history.

Good God the Rockets are pissed on in this city.

Anyway, Y'all know my stance.

Texn4life
10-26-2011, 03:24 AM
Never understood this whole "I'm a Houston fan" thing like we have no major titles in the city's history.

Good God the Rockets are pissed on in this city.

Anyway, Y'all know my stance.

The bad thing is most people outside the city of Houston don't recognize those rings because they were the Jordan retirement/just returning from retirement years. Screw those idiots! I'll always back Houston sports teams to the fullest and no one else. I have other players I love to watch and like to see do well, but not like Houston sports teams. Winning or losing, I won't jump ship and start flirting with some other "chicks". These are my ride or die teams. Lately I've just been doing a whole lot of dying.

TejasTom
10-26-2011, 08:07 AM
I want to! I'm trying, but it's hard!

...

I really want to start enjoying my football again.

Me too! I really want to get back to watching this team as a fan and not a coach. I don't want to yell at the games and TV, "What are you doing?!?!?"

I am optimistic that no defense is going to have an answer for Johnson, Foster, Daniels, Dreessen, Casey or Johnson, Foster, Jones, Mason, Daniels.

And no offense is going to have an answer for Cushing's Crusaders.

ObsiWan
10-26-2011, 08:15 AM
I want to! I'm trying, but it's hard! I feel like a guy that is in love with a beautiful girl but finds out she'd slept with all his friends. Can she change? Will she? There are alot of negatives.

I have no confidence in Kubiak as a leader or his ability to make adjustments. I don't believe Schaub is a QB that can carry a team. I question whether our OL has the mental or physical makeup to control the line of scrimmage against a hard nosed DL.

On D we all know one side of the secondary is going to get picked on and loose alot of the time. I think most see the same things as our weak spots. But despite all the above mentioned short comings and my heart telling me these are insurmountable deficiencies, I'm starting to believe we have a chance to overcome all of them and finally turn the corner and become a real legitimate playoff caliber team.

With the remaining schedule being very favorable, our D starting to pick up the scheme better each week, AJ coming back, Foster returning to last years form and Tate becoming a solid backup option, I could see us starting a momentum swing that could build the confidence in this team and carry us into a new era of consistent winning.

Like I said I'm trying. Help me out here all you optimist. Give me some more positives to hang onto. I really want to start enjoying my football again.

Look, all fanbases have worries.
The Packers have no real running game, neither do the Patriots. And I'll bet good money that both fan bases are scared crapless of what would happen if their franchise QB went down and they had to lean more heavily on those suspect running attacks.
The Jets and Cowpie fanbases don't know what the hell to expect from Sanchez or Romo from week to week. And the Flacco-led Raven offense was just exposed as a fraud in front of a national audience. Niners fans are scared crapless that Frank Gore will go down again and they'll have to rely on Alex Smith.
The Cinerella Bills and Lions have both lost two games each in the last two weeks - the Lions two straight at home - so their fans have probably got that "oh crap, here we go again" thought creeping into their collective minds.
The Saints and the Steelers have shown to be beatable.

Point is EVERY team has flaws and every fanbase worries about having those flaws exploited by whoever is next on their schedule.... That you have identified and worry about our flaws just tells me you're an astute fan of our team. You see the same places that could stand upgrades that the rest of us do. So stop worrying about your worrying.

So try to enjoy football for the love of the game and, as TK said, "enjoy the ride." That's what I do.

El Tejano
10-26-2011, 08:26 AM
I'm waiting til the bye!

Thorn
10-26-2011, 08:41 AM
Do you believe?

Mulder is calling your cell now.

We all know that the Texans are just as capable of beating this weeks Kittens by 20 points or more or losing on the last play of the game as time runs out. We've see it all before.

I believe the Texans have the talent to win out and go to the Super Bowl. The problem with that reasoning is there are other teams that can say that as well. How the team reacts and how Kubiak coachs from week to week will determine what happens. I'm just in a wait and see mode right now, and hoping good things happen. No matter who you are though, you do have to admit that this year, the Texans chances of seeing a home playoff game are the best they've ever been.

Blake
10-26-2011, 08:43 AM
I still cant believe they didn't draft Mark Herzlich. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81516)

You are a very bi-polar fan. They lose and we get a negative thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86063). They win and we get this, whatever thread this is.

Double Barrel
10-26-2011, 11:37 AM
This team hasn't done anything to make us have anything other than doubts.

And I'm an optimist.

Great post overall, but this really nailed it.

I tend to be a bit cynical, but I also try to be a realist.

And while this year's team is certainly capable of beating itself, there is something different about it.

Wade is a big part of the equation. His leadership on defense is obvious, and it's getting better every week.

I think great defenses can win games by themselves, and add a potent offense like we've had for the past couple of seasons, the sky is the limit for this team.

They just need to be consistent, and this is the aspect that keeps me suspicious of them. Until they can prove to be consistent from week to week, "belief" will be a matter of the results of their last game.

I think they should win the next two games. 6-3 would do a lot for Texans fans. If any season is "the season", this is the one. The stars are aligned, Manning is out, the division is as weak as it's ever been, and all the Texans needs to do is be consistent and seize the opportunity to finally establish something positive.

When I look big picture, I think they go to the playoffs this year. So I guess in that regard, I believe. :texflag:

badboy
10-26-2011, 11:48 AM
It is all about hope. Whether we are talking sports, fishing, relationships or politics. Last Sunday's team gave me hope again. Next Sunday's team........

thunderkyss
10-26-2011, 12:10 PM
It is all about hope. Whether we are talking sports, fishing, relationships or politics. Last Sunday's team gave me hope again. Next Sunday's team........

hope & change.... :backsout:

Norg
10-26-2011, 01:01 PM
Im a homer i have no choice but to believe :koolaid:

97roc
10-26-2011, 01:14 PM
Im a homer i have no choice but to believe :koolaid:

Pass the kool aid.

mussop
10-26-2011, 01:42 PM
I still cant believe they didn't draft Mark Herzlich. (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81516)

I know right?


You are a very bi-polar fan. They lose and we get a negative thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86063). They win and we get this, whatever thread this is.

What exactly is your point? Or did you just want to call me bi-polar? And quit sending me private messages asking to exchange penis pics. I don't swing that way.

GP
10-26-2011, 01:47 PM
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t128/gpshafer_1976/sunshine.jpg

Thorn
10-26-2011, 01:54 PM
fi dolla fi dolla foot long
fi dolla fi dolla foot long

Hervoyel
10-26-2011, 01:54 PM
I want to say something like "If they stomp a hole in the Jags & Browns like they're supposed to THEN I'll believe but belief doesn't work like that. Nobody can talk you into believing and setting conditions on believing doesn't work either. There's a point in time when you actually start to believe something is going to happen. Someone will step up and make a play or something like that and when you believe it then it actually happens. You had nothing to do with it happening but that doesn't matter. You take it from there and next thing you know you're a believer.

The Texans have to yet to take me to that place. I remember when the Rockets did. We all just knew they'd find a way to win and they did. I have high hopes for this year though. They look like they might be getting it. Finally.

GP
10-26-2011, 02:03 PM
I want to say something like "If they stomp a hole in the Jags & Browns like they're supposed to THEN I'll believe but belief doesn't work like that. Nobody can talk you into believing and setting conditions on believing doesn't work either. There's a point in time when you actually start to believe something is going to happen. Someone will step up and make a play or something like that and when you believe it then it actually happens. You had nothing to do with it happening but that doesn't matter. You take it from there and next thing you know you're a believer.

The Texans have to yet to take me to that place. I remember when the Rockets did. We all just knew they'd find a way to win and they did. I have high hopes for this year though. They look like they might be getting it. Finally.

IMO, Sam Cassell was THE final piece of that Rockets puzzle. Little dude would run through hell in gasoline soaked underwear for a win. He brought that "Eff You!" attitude to what was sort of a "finesse" team at the time.

Wade Phillips has brought that to this defense, coaching up the players and turning them back into functioning defenders who are actively doing their jobs as intended. Up until now, the defense was very predictable and ver shallow on players who have grit. We have JJ Watt, Manning, Joseph, Cushing, and many others who now have a d-coord who knows how to use their talents.

I have yet to reach a "I believe" point with this team. We'll know it when it happens. Sports is funny like that. For example, the Rangers SHOULD win the WS...but so far they've yet to hit that "I believe" moment. It has to happen tonight, IMO, or they're going to crash and burn in a Game 7.

ATXtexanfan
10-26-2011, 02:04 PM
i will believe when we clench the division

GP
10-26-2011, 02:16 PM
i will believe when we clench the division

But what if we don't clench the division?

What if we just end up merely clinching the division instead?

/grammarnazi

Thorn
10-26-2011, 03:26 PM
But what if we don't clench the division?

What if we just end up merely clinching the division instead?

/grammarnazi

goddammit GP I had to read that post three times before I figured out what you were saying. :lol:

badboy
10-26-2011, 03:31 PM
fi dolla fi dolla foot long
fi dolla fi dolla foot longWait is this in response to the pm about exchanging penis pictures? I'm moving on to another thread.

Thorn
10-26-2011, 04:16 PM
Wait is this in response to the pm about exchanging penis pictures? I'm moving on to another thread.

Your mind works in strange ways. But to answer your question, yes. LOL

axman40
10-26-2011, 04:25 PM
I believe, I will be rooting for the Texans every Sunday up to Jan 1,2012.
I hope to be rooting for them in the playoffs and beyond!
:koolaid::koolaid::koolaid::koolaid:
:fans:

GP
10-26-2011, 05:07 PM
goddammit GP I had to read that post three times before I figured out what you were saying. :lol:

But don't you feel better now that you figure it out?

You're a persistent old fart, I'll give you that!

I bet you love to solve the "Find 5 Differences Between These Two Images" puzzles in kids' magazines. I know I do. My kid shows it to me, and I'm sucked into it. I will find that 5th difference, dammit! I WILL FIND IT OR ELSE!

Meanwhile, my kid is off doing something else and I'm a grown man working a children's puzzle by myself on the couch. It's a funny sight to behold.

drunkcookie
10-26-2011, 05:16 PM
And quit sending me private messages asking to exchange penis pics. I don't swing that way.

Lol, wow... Lol at, not with btw...


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JGarza #70
10-26-2011, 05:18 PM
Hope she is that kinda girl that will change and take it game by game--week by week!!

pass the :koolaid:

Thorn
10-26-2011, 05:24 PM
But don't you feel better now that you figure it out?

You're a persistent old fart, I'll give you that!

I bet you love to solve the "Find 5 Differences Between These Two Images" puzzles in kids' magazines. I know I do. My kid shows it to me, and I'm sucked into it. I will find that 5th difference, dammit! I WILL FIND IT OR ELSE!

Meanwhile, my kid is off doing something else and I'm a grown man working a children's puzzle by myself on the couch. It's a funny sight to behold.

Back in the old days, when I actually had a subscription to a newspaper, I did the puzzles and crosswords, so yeah, I know what you mean.

I'm gonna hate it when I get REALLY old and find I like doing crosswords better than watching movies or playing computer games. When I get to that point, and if I say something about here, I will need someone to come and shoot me.

thunderkyss
10-26-2011, 05:42 PM
And quit sending me private messages asking to exchange penis pics. I don't swing that way.

Sorry, I must have gave him your number by accident..... SuperMario, hit me up on the PM.

GP
10-26-2011, 06:13 PM
Lol, wow... Lol at, not with btw...


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Agreed. Some things are funny only in a comedy movie.

GP
10-26-2011, 06:13 PM
John McClain definitely believes....

http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t128/gpshafer_1976/koolaid_mcclain.jpg

Buffi2
10-26-2011, 07:22 PM
I'm gonna hate it when I get REALLY old and find I like doing crosswords better than watching movies or playing computer games. When I get to that point, and if I say something about here, I will need someone to come and shoot me.

You just end up doing the crosswords while watching the movie before you play a computer game:heart: And, you will be soo proud of yourself for being able to multi task.

Back on topic- I know we have the talent for the play offs but I'm not going to kick that football Lucy is holding just yet.

Blake
10-27-2011, 08:48 AM
What exactly is your point? Or did you just want to call me bi-polar? And quit sending me private messages asking to exchange penis pics. I don't swing that way.

My point is that you create some of the worst threads this forum has ever seen. The fact that I even read them concerns me. Do me a favor. The next time the thought of creating a thread pops into that tiny underdeveloped brain of yours, do us all a favor and don't. In fact, you might want to just delete your account all together and move on to something more fitting. Like a forum about 'your mamma' jokes, and penis jokes. What are you, a child? Grow up or get out.

80tothezone
10-27-2011, 01:29 PM
yes i think i do believe, however that is tempered by the fact that i am tired of being disappointed

foo82
10-27-2011, 02:12 PM
Once a cheater, always a cheater.

Wait what were we talking about?

bo orlando
10-27-2011, 02:33 PM
I believe the Texans will win the division and will lose a playoff game in an embarrassing way that has us once again hashing about the end of kubiak, schaub or both. maybe they can win a wildcard with the right matchup, but i don't see them getting past the ravens, steelers, patriots, or jets in a high-pressure game.

ObsiWan
10-27-2011, 05:35 PM
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t128/gpshafer_1976/sunshine.jpg

Thank you, no. I carry my own unlimited supply of Koolaid brewed in Sunshine.
:koolaid:

Wolf6151
10-27-2011, 06:45 PM
Sorry but as long as Kubiak is here I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid again. I cheer them on and pull for them every week but true deep down trust ain't coming for a while. This team is far to bi-polar for me.

mussop
10-27-2011, 08:11 PM
My point is that you create some of the worst threads this forum has ever seen. The fact that I even read them concerns me. Do me a favor. The next time the thought of creating a thread pops into that tiny underdeveloped brain of yours, do us all a favor and don't. In fact, you might want to just delete your account all together and move on to something more fitting. Like a forum about 'your mamma' jokes, and penis jokes. What are you, a child? Grow up or get out.

You know, you are right. I don't know what has gotten into me. Sometimes I just get carried away. I can't really explain it. I'm not really good at these types of things. Maybe it would be better if you went here (http://youtu.be/KOphGZZrE44) to better understand how I feel about all this it would clear all this bad air up between us. :clown:

ATXtexanfan
10-27-2011, 08:27 PM
But what if we don't clench the division?

What if we just end up merely clinching the division instead?

/grammarnazi

lol, i remember thinking that didn't look right. i always correct my wife and kid when they text me. glad they don't troll here

Texecutioner
10-27-2011, 08:29 PM
We'll win the division this season because we have to. This division is terrible and we're not a terrible team. We're a good team with a lot of good pieces. We still have Kubiak though and that's the bottom line. This team won't ever win a SB with Kubiak in my opinion after all of the blunders and ridiculous moves I've seen this guy make for to many years now. He is who he is as a HC. This team is good enough to make the playoffs this year especially with the division that we have, but Kubiak simply isn't a coach that can get his teams to over achieve and play with that killer instinct that SB teams and Dynasty franchise teams play with week in and week out. I think the Texans will constantly be a one step forward, two steps back, two steps forward one step back kind of team as long as they're led by Kubiak.

GP
10-27-2011, 09:08 PM
lol, i remember thinking that didn't look right. i always correct my wife and kid when they text me. glad they don't troll here

You're a good sport.

It's sort of boring on here during the week, so i think we're all working hard to find something to talk about.

Your "clenching" comment was just a victim of a slow week on the board. Heck, it took Thorn three times to figure out what I was saying. LOL. Worth it.

Thorn
10-27-2011, 09:59 PM
Heck, it took Thorn three times to figure out what I was saying. LOL. Worth it.

So that's how it is, huh? Pick on old people. Keep it up bub, I'll eat a dozen hard boiled eggs and fart in your next thread.

Norg
10-27-2011, 10:28 PM
U know i hope the divison clinches us meaning the jags and titans lose so much that we just win the divison with a 8-8 record. Lol not saying i hope we go 8-8. But to be able to use thexlast 4 games has pre season games