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Ryan
10-23-2011, 03:38 PM
He started out really rough, going 0-4 and i was thinking "here we go again". But then he completes 18 of his last 19 passes for 296 and 2 TDS and NO TURNOVERS. Big time props to Schaub today, and outstanding job by the o-line in protecteion.

ATXtexanfan
10-23-2011, 03:42 PM
He started out really rough, going 0-4 and i was thinking "here we go again". But then he completes 18 of his last 19 passes for 296 and 2 TDS and NO TURNOVERS. Big time props to Schaub today, and outstanding job by the o-line in protecteion.

running game is a qb best's friend

thunderkyss
10-23-2011, 03:44 PM
I've got nothing against Schaub (today) but I've seen him play better. This game, I think every one stepped up the way they needed to, where Matt didn't have to "make plays"

He made some great throws, but that should be expected.

Marcus
10-23-2011, 03:45 PM
running game is a qb best's friend

Yes, it is.

But, they won the game this way in spite of Kubiak, right? :rolleyes:

GP
10-23-2011, 03:48 PM
Yes, it is.

But, they won the game this way in spite of Kubiak, right? :rolleyes:

We're 1-18 against team who end up having a winning record at the end of the season. Let's remember that at the end of this season.

Because it might turn out that Titans end up .500 or worse, which means we won this game today because they suck more than we do...not because this is some harbinger of great things to come for Gary and his kids.

I've seen this song and dance for going on 6 years now. It's routine until it stops being routine. ;)

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 03:51 PM
So everyone was tripping balls about the Titans and how they're this and that, and now that we beat them handily, it's "oh, well, they could very well just turn out .500 or worse, so whatever, doesnt mean ****."

Sick of this goalpost-moving bull****ing****.

GP
10-23-2011, 03:52 PM
I've got nothing against Schaub (today) but I've seen him play better. This game, I think every one stepped up the way they needed to, where Matt didn't have to "make plays"

He made some great throws, but that should be expected.

This game saw a game plan that I think stepped away from Andre Johnson and found ways to get our guys involved in schemed plays for them. The Arian Foster pass play for a TD was that sort of play, IMO.

It's like our guys are learning they CAN play without Andre Johnson.

It was a game where I think Foster stopped being scared of getting his hammie hurt out there, He ran with authority and confidence. The offensive line got mean and nasty and stayed that way. Tate was fully healthy.

Kareem Jackson was benched after getting burned three times in a row, according to Thunderkyss in another thread. Jason Allen comes in and plays better, obviously. Not Pro-Bowl caliber, but still....better.

I'm just curious how Gary Kubiak ends up screwing the pooch as we go along. I know he has it in him. it's just "how" he ends up doing it that has me guessing.

Marcus
10-23-2011, 03:53 PM
We're 1-18 against team who end up having a winning record at the end of the season. Let's remember that at the end of this season.

Because it might turn out that Titans end up .500 or worse, which means we won this game today because they suck more than we do...not because this is some harbinger of great things to come for Gary and his kids.

I've seen this song and dance for going on 6 years now. It's routine until it stops being routine. ;)

Aw, what'samatter GP? Game didn't go the way you wanted it to?;)

thunderkyss
10-23-2011, 03:54 PM
We're 1-18 against team who end up having a winning record at the end of the season. Let's remember that at the end of this season.

Because it might turn out that Titans end up .500 or worse, which means we won this game today because they suck more than we do...not because this is some harbinger of great things to come for Gary and his kids.

I've seen this song and dance for going on 6 years now. It's routine until it stops being routine. ;)

I understand that, but had we lost, this could have been the kind of game the Titans needed to get started. If CJIgotPaid got off today, it could have been the start of his season.

At the same time, this is the same kind of play that takes the air out of a team that's been playing above their ability. Just like when the Cowboys came to Houston a couple of years ago..That game gave them hope.

We just knocked the Titan's hope into next season.

:koolaid:

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 03:56 PM
This game saw a game plan that I think stepped away from Andre Johnson and found ways to get our guys involved in schemed plays for them. The Arian Foster pass play for a TD was that sort of play, IMO.

It's like our guys are learning they CAN play without Andre Johnson.

It was a game where I think Foster stopped being scared of getting his hammie hurt out there, He ran with authority and confidence. The offensive line got mean and nasty and stayed that way. Tate was fully healthy.

Kareem Jackson was benched after getting burned three times in a row, according to Thunderkyss in another thread. Jason Allen comes in and plays better, obviously. Not Pro-Bowl caliber, but still....better.

I'm just curious how Gary Kubiak ends up screwing the pooch as we go along. I know he has it in him. it's just "how" he ends up doing it that has me guessing.

Don't you think Kubiak deserves even the slightest ****ing bit of credit for getting the boys ready and executing without Andre after it was a problem for two games?

I think he does. He also pulled Kareem Jackson off the field after his first mistake and I don't think he saw him again.

He also called Foster in the pass game much more often.

Kubiak called a great goddamn game today. And it's so....SO okay to give just a shred of credit to everyone involved without being a ****ing debbie downer.

You expect the team to screw up somewhere down the line, good. Great. Just ***** about it when it happens. Not after a ****ing great game where pretty much everything worked unbelievably great save for Danieal Manning getting hurt.

Just STUFF THE CRAP for once. That goes for everyone who spouts this garbage every freaking minute of every freaking day. It's a wonder how you people enjoy ANYTHING.

GP
10-23-2011, 03:56 PM
So everyone was tripping balls about the Titans and how they're this and that, and now that we beat them handily, it's "oh, well, they could very well just turn out .500 or worse, so whatever, doesnt mean ****."

Sick of this goalpost-moving bull****ing****.

Settle down. Nobody is moving goal posts. We're actually operating within the normal playing rules here.

For six years, and I don't where you've been during those years if you're so yanked about this course of the thread's direction, I've watched a Texans team play Jekyll and Hyde every year like this.

We simply find ways to turtle up and tap out. We do. It's why we get called "soft," because we damn sure have the players to be better than we have been. We now have a defense that does likewise.

But you still are left wondering how we screw this up. Just as there are two halves in a game, there are two halves in a season. How do we react if we jump out to a 2 or 3 game lead in the division? Do we turtle up and lose it in the final week or two? It's possible. This team is a but cracker if there ever was one, friend.

It's just normal to think this way. We're conditioned to do so. Don't shoot the messengers here, OK?

GP
10-23-2011, 03:57 PM
Don't you think Kubiak deserves even the slightest ****ing bit of credit for getting the boys ready and executing without Andre after it was a problem for two games?

I think he does. He also pulled Kareem Jackson off the field after his first mistake and I don't think he saw him again.

He also called Foster in the pass game much more often.

Kubiak called a great goddamn game today. And it's so....SO okay to give just a shred of credit to everyone involved without being a ****ing debbie downer.

You expect the team to screw up somewhere down the line, good. Great. Just ***** about it when it happens. Not after a ****ing great game where pretty much everything worked unbelievably great save for Danieal Manning getting hurt.

Just STUFF THE CRAP for once.

Man, you have a raging hard-on for being angry today. Congrats.

I'm not being a Debbie Downer. I'm talking in hyperbole, but with a bit of history to back my off-the-cuff remarks up with.

Chill out. Go take some meds with your soft serve ice cream, Eric Winston.

GP
10-23-2011, 03:58 PM
Aw, what'samatter GP? Game didn't go the way you wanted it to?;)

Oh yeah, I stick around here just for the fun of it Marcus. Yeah, I really wanted us to lose today, You got me.

Anything serious to add, or just trolling like always? :gobacktoyourbridge:

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 03:59 PM
Leave it to some people to piss people off so much after a win. I'm not surprised.

Should probably just get off the board for good. Stick around strictly for gameday discussion or if there are any news bits to discuss.

I can't believe this win is being ruined.

ATXtexanfan
10-23-2011, 04:01 PM
Yes, it is.

But, they won the game this way in spite of Kubiak, right? :rolleyes:

i would say everything on the menu looked good today

GP
10-23-2011, 04:01 PM
I understand that, but had we lost, this could have been the kind of game the Titans needed to get started. If CJIgotPaid got off today, it could have been the start of his season.

At the same time, this is the same kind of play that takes the air out of a team that's been playing above their ability. Just like when the Cowboys came to Houston a couple of years ago..That game gave them hope.

We just knocked the Titan's hope into next season.

:koolaid:

This is speaking as if there is like 2 games left in the season or something.

This is what's funny to me: Us being grumpy when we lose back to back games and then sunshine pumping when we beat down an obviously mediocre Titans team.

Yeah, we kicked a lady's ass today. I feel like a man.

Always good to win, I want a BUNCH MORE OF THEM THOUGH. Let's table the celebration dance until we reach the finish line and end up first.

Munchak was giggling on the sideline, which I thought was AWESOME. Always feels good to see the other team's head coach know he got destroyed in the game. But I'm a hater according to Marcus, and Matrix, because I won't crown us yet. Part Pooper = GP, I suppose. LOL......

ATXtexanfan
10-23-2011, 04:02 PM
So everyone was tripping balls about the Titans and how they're this and that, and now that we beat them handily, it's "oh, well, they could very well just turn out .500 or worse, so whatever, doesnt mean ****."

Sick of this goalpost-moving bull****ing****.

loss to jax then what?

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 04:02 PM
You're not a hater. I dont use that dumb**** term and anyone who does use that term should never, ever, ever be taken seriously for any reason.

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 04:03 PM
loss to jax then what?

Let's wait until it happens before fans become pieces of **** about it, yeah?

Too much to ask, I know.

Ryan
10-23-2011, 04:04 PM
running game is a qb best's friend


No doubt, I was really just impressed with what he did in managing the run plays and actually making some big time throws on 3rd down.

Texan_Bill
10-23-2011, 04:04 PM
He started out really rough, going 0-4 and i was thinking "here we go again". But then he completes 18 of his last 19 passes for 296 and 2 TDS and NO TURNOVERS. Big time props to Schaub today, and outstanding job by the o-line in protecteion.

Props to Schaub AND I really don't understand all his myopic detracters, but he has had better games.

Marcus
10-23-2011, 04:05 PM
Oh yeah, I stick around here just for the fun of it Marcus. Yeah, I really wanted us to lose today, You got me.

Anything serious to add, or just trolling like always? :gobacktoyourbridge:

Don't really know how to seriously respond to all the **** you manage to pull out of your ass . . but hey . . if anyone else wants to give that a whirl, it's a free country. :)

ATXtexanfan
10-23-2011, 04:06 PM
Props to Schaub AND I really don't understand all his myopic detracters, but he has had bettergames.

myopic detracters? if only we always two rb's run for over a hundred yards

Texan_Bill
10-23-2011, 04:07 PM
AWESOME!!!

Texan on Texan Cyber violence!!! Love it!!! :popcorn:

Runner
10-23-2011, 04:11 PM
Leave it to some people to piss people off so much after a win. I'm not surprised.

Should probably just get off the board for good. Stick around strictly for gameday discussion or if there are any news bits to discuss.

I can't believe this win is being ruined.

With the words you are using in most of your posts, I'd say you are instigating the behavior you are condemning. You were "pissed off" when you started posting.

If this is your farewell post the board will probably be a little less angry, just like you want.

Mr. Texan
10-23-2011, 04:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0

:kitten:

TdotTexas2Step
10-23-2011, 04:14 PM
Can't really fault fans for not buying into certain things. After what the fanbase has gone through the last few years, you've got to take that "Can't get too high, can't get too low" approach.

Besides, we're only 4-3.

On that note, it's great to see us take care of business in such a crucial game.

playa465
10-23-2011, 04:18 PM
Schaub had a good game and wasn't pressured into putting the game on his shoulders due to the success of the running game...when this happens we are very tough to beat...I think the game ball goes to the OL

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 04:19 PM
Laid out clearly what pissed me off. Came out guns blazing in response to the attitude being displayed intentionally ruining moods and whatnot after such a great performance. Doesn't put me in the wrong.

Whatever, I'll drop it. The pessimistic,crystal ball, Nick-Cage-in-Next horse-beaters shall continue to have their fun no matter what I or anyone else say.

Honoring Earl 34
10-23-2011, 04:20 PM
Schaub's test was the games Foster was being stuffed .

Nobody is against Schaub it's just that he's limited and if your ultimate goal is a SB then it's a problem .

It's never how bad you beat a bad team that is your highwater mark . I think the Titans are the team that's been destroyed the last two games . They're really bad so that leaves who to challenge the Texans ?

So while beating the Titans like rented mule is fun it's one tiny step toward a playoff party . Also if they do go to the playoffs , I expect more next year .

:koolaid::heart::koolaid::heart:

thunderkyss
10-23-2011, 04:20 PM
Don't you think Kubiak deserves even the slightest ****ing bit of credit for getting the boys ready and executing without Andre after it was a problem for two games?


Heck no, this only exemplifies what he is capable of doing. What happened to this in the 4th Qtr vs Baltimore, that game was ours.

What happened in the 4th Qtr vs Oakland.. we should have easily handled the Raiders at home.

What happened @ New Orleans, again, if he could have got our boys to play like this in the Big Easy, we'd be 5-2 right now, we should be 6-1 at least, but to go 0-3 in those games, inexcusable.


I think he does. He also pulled Kareem Jackson off the field after his first mistake and I don't think he saw him again.


Kareem came out & played more, but I'd bet that was Wade's call.


He also called Foster in the pass game much more often.

He called Foster in the passing game last week as well... Foster just failed to capitalize.

Kubiak called a great goddamn game today. And it's so....SO okay to give just a shred of credit to everyone involved without being a ****ing debbie downer.

I won't argue here, but he also did something to get them boys from Kirby to play like Champions..... we need him to do that every week, not only every now & then, not only when his job is on the line, but every week.

That's what seperates the good coaches from the Kubiaks.


Just STUFF THE CRAP for once. That goes for everyone who spouts this garbage every freaking minute of every freaking day. It's a wonder how you people enjoy ANYTHING.

I don't think I'd be spouting garbage, you know that ain't my way. But to say this proves anything about Kubiak.... you're asking for it.

Week in week out, just like the players, we need Kubiak to inspire this kind of performance every week. That talent doesn't just go away some weeks, that ability doesn't come & go. It's there & it's his job to get it out every week regardless how tough the other team is.


:koolaid:

Honoring Earl 34
10-23-2011, 04:21 PM
Laid out clearly what pissed me off. Came out guns blazing in response to the attitude being displayed intentionally ruining moods and whatnot after such a great performance. Doesn't put me in the wrong.

Whatever, I'll drop it. The pessimistic,crystal ball, Nick-Cage-in-Next horse-beaters shall continue to have their fun no matter what I or anyone else say.

If you let a mb ruin your mood then that's your problem .

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 04:25 PM
Never said it "proves" anything about Kubiak. Kubiak proved he wasn't a great coach a long time ago.

But my thing all along is to analyze game by game. Not just him, the entire team. Analyze properly and give accurate assessments. If that means the players deserve blame one gaame, Kubiak blows it one game, Kubiak gets credit for prepping but players execute poorly, the entire team sucks, the loss falls on Schaub, the win comes from DL play... then so be it.

thunderkyss
10-23-2011, 04:27 PM
This is what's funny to me: Us being grumpy when we lose back to back games and then sunshine pumping when we beat down an obviously mediocre Titans team.

Yeah, we kicked a lady's ass today. I feel like a man.


If you are one of those guys who said the Titans weren't crap... if you thought to check the junk before this game, I'll give you that.

But, I've got a feeling you are one of those who thought we didn't have a chance today... If you thought we didn't have a chance & the Texans stomped the equivalent of a mud-hole in hillbilly holler.... this is a big, big turnaround & for you to act like it isn't is disingenuous at best.



:koolaid:

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 04:29 PM
If you let a mb ruin your mood then that's your problem .

Considering its a message board for the team I root for that has multiple agenda posters running amock even after a virtually flawless performance, one that we've been clamoring for, then yeah I'd say it's not shocking for the mood to be ruined. But that's definitely what you guys want. It's impossible for you guys to just enjoy a win without thinking about how we're inevitably gonna fail.

It's a wonder how you people are even sports fans. I would have killed myself a long time ago if I could never enjoy the wins.

ATXtexanfan
10-23-2011, 04:32 PM
Never said it "proves" anything about Kubiak. Kubiak proved he wasn't a great coach a long time ago.

But my thing all along is to analyze game by game. Not just him, the entire team. Analyze properly and give accurate assessments. If that means the players deserve blame one gaame, Kubiak blows it one game, Kubiak gets credit for prepping but players execute poorly, the entire team sucks, the loss falls on Schaub, the win comes from DL play... then so be it.

i hear you bro, i still say schaub sucks and i get a beat down. he was great today with two rb's running for over a hundred yards. i became critical of schaub last year. he start 0-4 and my wife says here we go again with our suckass qb. she convinced me he didn't have it last year. people will think we are gonna make the playoffs after to day but i'm wondering if the schaub sucks next week when jax always seems to be more physical than us at the point of the attack. they have nothing to lose and are just here to ruin a homecoming.

thunderkyss
10-23-2011, 04:38 PM
he start 0-4 and my wife says here we go again with our suckass qb. she convinced me he didn't have it last year.

My wife isn't a big Schaub fan either. She likes Brady & Sanchez.. I think it's the receding hairline more than the W-Ls



:koolaid:

Honoring Earl 34
10-23-2011, 04:39 PM
Considering its a message board for the team I root for that has multiple agenda posters running amock even after a virtually flawless performance, one that we've been clamoring for, then yeah I'd say it's not shocking for the mood to be ruined. But that's definitely what you guys want. It's impossible for you guys to just enjoy a win without thinking about how we're inevitably gonna fail.

It's a wonder how you people are even sports fans. I would have killed myself a long time ago if I could never enjoy the wins.

Did you take some estrogen by mistake .

One win isn't the goal anymore . I sill want them to go 11-5 because I think they can but not how they played the three previous games . So yes i enjoy the win but the better the Texans get the more the losses kill me .

ATXtexanfan
10-23-2011, 04:41 PM
My wife isn't a big Schaub fan either. She likes Brady & Sanchez.. I think it's the receding hairline more than the W-Ls



:koolaid:

she knows a punk when she's one? my wife thinks schaub is a pu***. she doesn't think he's a leader. she loves rackers intensity though. she also loves cush. hard for me to argue with her

Ryan
10-23-2011, 04:42 PM
Way to derail this thread, guys. :schaubpalm:

mariowillshine15
10-23-2011, 04:44 PM
Considering its a message board for the team I root for that has multiple agenda posters running amock even after a virtually flawless performance, one that we've been clamoring for, then yeah I'd say it's not shocking for the mood to be ruined. But that's definitely what you guys want. It's impossible for you guys to just enjoy a win without thinking about how we're inevitably gonna fail.

It's a wonder how you people are even sports fans. I would have killed myself a long time ago if I could never enjoy the wins.

Bottom line we just stomped a mudhole in our rival, are 2-0 in the division and get the sorry jags next week.

Let the good times keep rollin!

kingh99
10-23-2011, 04:54 PM
The play against the grain to Foster showed Schaub is a cerebral, cut above the rest QB. Foster, also solidified as an offensive gun, a deadly weapon.

In all the dust and blood of battle Schaub and Foster ran a perfect play.

drunkcookie
10-23-2011, 04:55 PM
I liked Schaub's game today, did good... liked that one pass to Daniels, put it in a decent spot in what was good coverage...

Corrosion
10-23-2011, 05:10 PM
Its easy to play QB when your team runs for 200+ yards ..... :chickendance:

Hervoyel
10-23-2011, 05:24 PM
Don't you think Kubiak deserves even the slightest ****ing bit of credit for getting the boys ready and executing without Andre after it was a problem for two games?

I think he does. He also pulled Kareem Jackson off the field after his first mistake and I don't think he saw him again.

He also called Foster in the pass game much more often.

Kubiak called a great goddamn game today. And it's so....SO okay to give just a shred of credit to everyone involved without being a ****ing debbie downer.

You expect the team to screw up somewhere down the line, good. Great. Just ***** about it when it happens. Not after a ****ing great game where pretty much everything worked unbelievably great save for Danieal Manning getting hurt.

Just STUFF THE CRAP for once. That goes for everyone who spouts this garbage every freaking minute of every freaking day. It's a wonder how you people enjoy ANYTHING.


Kubiak did good today.

Now go find some of this stuff.... stat!

http://www.pinkapple.com/productphotos/2001_large.jpg

Hervoyel
10-23-2011, 05:26 PM
Don't really know how to seriously respond to all the **** you manage to pull out of your ass . . but hey . . if anyone else wants to give that a whirl, it's a free country. :)

I'll try.

He's right.

Fox
10-23-2011, 05:36 PM
A dangerous running game is what makes this offense tick. Take away the running game and you take away the play action and boot leg passes. We ran the ball and protected well to boot, and in those circumstances Schaub plays like a pro-bowler.

Thorn
10-23-2011, 05:45 PM
Leave it to some people to piss people off so much after a win. I'm not surprised.

Should probably just get off the board for good. Stick around strictly for gameday discussion or if there are any news bits to discuss.

I can't believe this win is being ruined.

This is a football BBS. Overreacting to everything, both good and bad, is what we do. It's what most fans do. Everyone who posts here is guilty of it because it's normal behavior for sports fans. :)

amazing80
10-23-2011, 06:04 PM
Great game for the coaches and great one for the players. Schaub started pretty rough, but as Foster turned it on it relieved the pressure from Schaub and he turned it on, Im telling you that when he has pressure he folds, but if you keep him mostly clean he can be flawless. The run game is the most important thing to this offense and it seems like we figured out how to make it go without AJ. Will only get better once he returns....

Lucky
10-23-2011, 06:08 PM
The play against the grain to Foster showed Schaub is a cerebral, cut above the rest QB.
They ran the same play against the Raiders. It works when the defense overreacts to the play action boot. Which is setup by the run. Everything was clicking.

After the 0-4 start to Schaub's day. Wild would be an understatement regarding Matt's early inaccuracy. Then he went 18-19. Lights out. Efficient. Mistake free.

Was the run game on, today? Yes. Did the o-line block their arse off? Yes. Is that the only explanation to Schaub's performance today and the previous few weeks? I don't know. But, he played great today.

ObsiWan
10-23-2011, 06:13 PM
Great game for the coaches and great one for the players. Schaub started pretty rough, but as Foster turned it on it relieved the pressure from Schaub and he turned it on, Im telling you that when he has pressure he folds, but if you keep him mostly clean he can be flawless. The run game is the most important thing to this offense and it seems like we figured out how to make it go without AJ. Will only get better once he returns....

For the life of me I cannot think of a single QB that this statement does not apply to.
I've seen Brady, Peyton, Brees, Sanchez (especially Sanchez), Roethlisberger (remember how the Ravens dismantled him - in fact, so did we) all wilt under repeated hits and constant pressure. Schaub is no different. The difference seems to be, those other guys appear to get better protection from game to game than Schaub.

BullNation4Life
10-23-2011, 06:13 PM
Bottom line we just stomped a mudhole in our rival, are 2-0 in the division and get the sorry jags next week.

Let the good times keep rollin!

Because marioooowillshine said so! *cue the breaking of the glass*

amazing80
10-23-2011, 06:17 PM
For the life of me I cannot think of a single QB that this statement does not apply to.
I've seen Brady, Peyton, Brees, Sanchez (especially Sanchez), Roethlisberger (remember how the Ravens dismantled him - in fact, so did we) all wilt under repeated hits and constant pressure. Schaub is no different. The difference seems to be, those other guys appear to get better protection from game to game than Schaub.

Thats what I was trying to get at....its very inconsistent therefore his play is all over the place....and in Houston we blame the qb FOR EVERYTHING lol

ATXtexanfan
10-23-2011, 06:38 PM
For the life of me I cannot think of a single QB that this statement does not apply to.
I've seen Brady, Peyton, Brees, Sanchez (especially Sanchez), Roethlisberger (remember how the Ravens dismantled him - in fact, so did we) all wilt under repeated hits and constant pressure. Schaub is no different. The difference seems to be, those other guys appear to get better protection from game to game than Schaub.

those other guys seem to make plays more often than not, which is why schaub is considered a second teir qb

thunderkyss
10-23-2011, 06:40 PM
Thats what I was trying to get at....its very inconsistent therefore his play is all over the place....and in Houston we blame the qb FOR EVERYTHING lol

I don't think Flacco was protected any better than Schaub was last week. But he seemed to put together a great game (great as in Ray Rice had a great game).

:koolaid:

Schaub had an opportunity to make a statement last week. If you want teams to stop blitzing you, you gotta beat them. He needs help from his receivers, but there were some big plays to open receivers that Schaub didn't make.

ObsiWan
10-23-2011, 08:18 PM
I don't think Flacco was protected any better than Schaub was last week. But he seemed to put together a great game (great as in Ray Rice had a great game).
First, we only got to Flacco twice. They sacked Schaub 4 times and hurried him at least as many times; probably more. So Flacco wasn't under the same level of pressure as Schaub for the duration of the game.

The key to the Ravens coming out on top last week was Ray Rice's 4th qtr running more than Flacco. We didn't have anything close to an effective running game last week. And then there's the small matter that we couldn't cover Anquan Boldin or Torrey Smith deep.

Who did we have that could get deep? Jacoby got deep once; that was it.


:koolaid:

Schaub had an opportunity to make a statement last week. If you want teams to stop blitzing you, you gotta beat them. He needs help from his receivers, but there were some big plays to open receivers that Schaub didn't make.
An effective running game is the best anti-blitz medicine. When the front seven have to respect your running attack they can't pin their ears back and sell out on the pass rush.
And as I asked above, who do we have that's a serious deep threat? No one really... at least not until AJ comes back.

80tothezone
10-23-2011, 08:27 PM
it's the run game kubes passed enough to keep em honest and ran itdown their throat. major props for the guys todau job well done all around.

Hervoyel
10-23-2011, 08:45 PM
One thing I couldn't help but notice was that today it didn't seem like we'd just do some bizarre inexplicable thing for no apparent reason. We didn't effectively run over them for four straight plays and then suddenly abandon the run. It seemed like we had our fun letting Vickers try to be a running back (note to self, he does not touch the ball again) and we did our funky little end-around but for the most part I don't recall thinking often "Why are you doing this? Why did you stop doing what worked?"

That's a hallmark of a Texans self-crapping. The sudden abandoning of the run when it appears to be unstoppable. The out of nowhere trick play when you are finding success just lining up and knocking them off the ball. We didn't do much if any of that today and I for one enjoyed the hell out of it.

kiwitexansfan
10-23-2011, 08:48 PM
Didn't see all the game because of crappy feeds online.

Did we get Schaub's patented $hitty throw of the game today or will we get a two-fer next week?

Hervoyel
10-23-2011, 08:51 PM
Didn't see all the game because of crappy feeds online.

Did we get Schaub's patented $hitty throw of the game today or will we get a two-fer next week?


He got it out of the way early when he overthrew Walter by a mile. I think it was Walter, might have been Jacoby. The ball went so far over the receiver I didn't really try to see who it was. Then once he had that out of the way he got on with it and had one of those days that makes you think we got the QB spot covered just fine.

infantrycak
10-23-2011, 09:05 PM
He got it out of the way early when he overthrew Walter by a mile. I think it was Walter, might have been Jacoby. The ball went so far over the receiver I didn't really try to see who it was.

It was Jacoby. Looked like a classic miscommunication incompletion. Clearly Schaub and JJ were not thinking the same thing.

TexansFanatic
10-23-2011, 09:10 PM
Considering its a message board for the team I root for that has multiple agenda posters running amock even after a virtually flawless performance, one that we've been clamoring for, then yeah I'd say it's not shocking for the mood to be ruined. But that's definitely what you guys want. It's impossible for you guys to just enjoy a win without thinking about how we're inevitably gonna fail.

It's a wonder how you people are even sports fans. I would have killed myself a long time ago if I could never enjoy the wins.

My friend, I'd like to impart to you some helpful wisdom that I was lucky enough to be given a few years ago. Here goes:

Nobody can make you feel any way you don't want to feel. You are the master of your fate and the captain of your soul. You say the board is being ruined for you because of all the doomsayers----ignore them. I also see plenty of people on this board who are enjoying the hell out of this win and haven't said a single negative word. If you spend your time engaging with them rather than getting angry with those who still have doubts, you'll probably enjoy your time on the board a lot more.

Happiness is a choice.

Enjoy!

:yahoo:

Honoring Earl 34
10-23-2011, 09:31 PM
My friend, I'd like to impart to you some helpful wisdom that I was lucky enough to be given a few years ago. Here goes:

Nobody can make you feel any way you don't want to feel. You are the master of your fate and the captain of your soul. You say the board is being ruined for you because of all the doomsayers----ignore them. I also see plenty of people on this board who are enjoying the hell out of this win and haven't said a single negative word. If you spend your time engaging with them rather than getting angry with those who still have doubts, you'll probably enjoy your time on the board a lot more.

Happiness is a choice.

Enjoy!

:yahoo:

The odd thing to me and not to get political but some of the guys who say you shouldn't complain about the team cry about politics all the time . So to get this straight killing folks in politics is ok but not football ?

http://www.qweb-images.com/Content/ProductImages/80856003.jpg?maxwidth=140&maxheight=140

ps ... Watch out he'll give you a red mark .

TexansFanatic
10-23-2011, 09:39 PM
The odd thing to me and not to get political but some of the guys who say you shouldn't complain about the team cry about politics all the time . So to get this straight killing folks in politics is ok but not football ?



I love my team and my country and it's because of that---not in spite of it---that I complain about both.

:thumbup

Rey
10-23-2011, 09:53 PM
Shammy played a really good game today. He made some throws that he should be making on a regular basis.

Really good day for him, the oline,, rb's, and te's.

I don't have anything negative to say about this game. Not even worth nit picking. Great game on a great day.

TheMatrix31
10-23-2011, 10:03 PM
My friend, I'd like to impart to you some helpful wisdom that I was lucky enough to be given a few years ago. Here goes:

Nobody can make you feel any way you don't want to feel. You are the master of your fate and the captain of your soul. You say the board is being ruined for you because of all the doomsayers----ignore them. I also see plenty of people on this board who are enjoying the hell out of this win and haven't said a single negative word. If you spend your time engaging with them rather than getting angry with those who still have doubts, you'll probably enjoy your time on the board a lot more.

Happiness is a choice.

Enjoy!

:yahoo:

Meh.

TexansFanatic
10-23-2011, 10:05 PM
Meh.

LOL Well played. ;-))

beerlover
10-23-2011, 10:10 PM
should give me the credit, benched Schaub & he has his best game of the season, probably cost me my match-up in process. your welcome :voodoo:

Corrosion
10-24-2011, 12:31 AM
Thats what I was trying to get at....its very inconsistent therefore his play is all over the place....and in Houston we blame the qb FOR EVERYTHING lol

What we have blamed on Schaub thus far this season is warranted - Just take a look at the first 3rd down play where he had Jones wide open and missed high by six feet .... He's had a play or two like that in every game so far. Luckily there was no defender close enough to make a play on that overthrow.

From the 3rd possession on , he was very good .... but then again , so was Foster and Tate.

QB is an easy position to play when you can rush for 200+.

thunderkyss
10-24-2011, 12:45 AM
What we have blamed on Schaub thus far this season is warranted - Just take a look at the first 3rd down play where he had Jones wide open and missed high by six feet .... He's had a play or two like that in every game so far. Luckily there was no defender close enough to make a play on that overthrow.

From the 3rd possession on , he was very good .... but then again , so was Foster and Tate.

QB is an easy position to play when you can rush for 200+.

And a guy you can dump it off to 11 yards away & he turns it into a 78 yard TD...

80tothezone
10-24-2011, 02:14 AM
wait wait wait wait wait! i thought dude had a limp noodle for an arm and brokedown week in and week out? WTF!? What happened to all the he is a ok qb b.s.?

dude made it rain today anyone who says otherwise can jump pn da tits nuts... like i been sayin when u pressurE ANY qb. the qb will have problems... give tha man some respect for pullin one off when it counts, and give props to the OL for showin up big

Corrosion
10-24-2011, 09:14 AM
And a guy you can dump it off to 11 yards away & he turns it into a 78 yard TD...

Man he made the Tits DB's look bad on that play ..... Griffin took a pretty good angle on him and Foster just made him miss.

The LB who was responsible for him blew it which allowed the big play.

Think ya gotta give some credit to Gary for drawing that one up. He's been able to get guy's wide open like that on a regular basis ..... from Dressen to Casey , Vickers (Damnit Vickers) and even AJ ..... How the hell do you lose AJ ?! I can think of a couple times there wasnt anyone within 10 yards of the guy.

Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 09:27 AM
Man he made the Tits DB's look bad on that play ..... Griffin took a pretty good angle on him and Foster just made him miss.

The LB who was responsible for him blew it which allowed the big play.

Think ya gotta give some credit to Gary for drawing that one up. He's been able to get guy's wide open like that on a regular basis ..... from Dressen to Casey , Vickers (Damnit Vickers) and even AJ ..... How the hell do you lose AJ ?! I can think of a couple times there wasnt anyone within 10 yards of the guy.

The problem is what happens when plan A stops working in a close game . When they used to get way behind they were good at plan B and could catch up . When the schemes aren't getting those guys wide open and they can't run is when it's a problem .

speedfreek
10-24-2011, 09:33 AM
schaub was better in the come-back against the redskins last year.

wish he would have done that against the raiders

TJ

thunderkyss
10-24-2011, 09:52 AM
schaub was better in the come-back against the redskins last year.

wish he would have done that against the raiders

TJ

Schaub has had many "better games" for the last two years. Yesterday, everything just seemed to work, & he didn't really have to do a whole lot. I was impressed with his ability to spread the ball around, but the last 4 minutes of the Raiders game, I thought, was a much better performance than the whole game yesterday.

We need Schaub to produce when things aren't going well, when he's got to make things happen. He's got plenty of games under his belt when he has done this, yesterday was not one of them.

BigBull17
10-24-2011, 10:21 AM
Don't you think Kubiak deserves even the slightest ****ing bit of credit for getting the boys ready and executing without Andre after it was a problem for two games?

I think he does. He also pulled Kareem Jackson off the field after his first mistake and I don't think he saw him again.

He also called Foster in the pass game much more often.

Kubiak called a great goddamn game today. And it's so....SO okay to give just a shred of credit to everyone involved without being a ****ing debbie downer.

You expect the team to screw up somewhere down the line, good. Great. Just ***** about it when it happens. Not after a ****ing great game where pretty much everything worked unbelievably great save for Danieal Manning getting hurt.

Just STUFF THE CRAP for once. That goes for everyone who spouts this garbage every freaking minute of every freaking day. It's a wonder how you people enjoy ANYTHING.

Great point. The team plays maybe their best complete game in history and people STILL find a way to *****.

HJam72
10-24-2011, 10:58 AM
Schaub had a good game, but our O-Line, Foster, and D pretty much handed it to him on a silver platter. All he had to do was not play like....well, Romo comes to mind.

thunderkyss
10-24-2011, 10:58 AM
Don't you think Kubiak deserves even the slightest ****ing bit of credit for getting the boys ready and executing without Andre after it was a problem for two games?


So you agree in those weeks the boys don't put it together that it's on Kubiak?

Have you been giving Kubiak criticism in those instances? It would only be fair right? Give him credit when it's due (Sunday @Tennessee) and criticism when he don't (@Baltimore, @New Orleans, home vs Raiders).

Corrosion
10-24-2011, 11:01 AM
He also called Foster in the pass game much more often.


Kubiak called Fosters name a couple times against the Ravens in the passing game ..... Foster didnt answer the bell .... He had two drops on what could have been game changing plays.


Schaub had a good game, but our O-Line, Foster, and D pretty much handed it to him on a silver platter. All he had to do was not play like....well, Romo comes to mind.


When the offense can rush for 200+ and the defense plays like it did yesterday .... your QB better look good .... That was a layup for Schaub if he ever had one.

80tothezone
10-24-2011, 11:04 AM
So you agree in those weeks the boys don't put it together that it's on Kubiak?

Have you been giving Kubiak criticism in those instances? It would only be fair right? Give him credit when it's due (Sunday @Tennessee) and criticism when he don't (@Baltimore, @New Orleans, home vs Raiders).

yeh i actually liked the play calling .... he seemed to pass at yhe right time to keep em honest...

TheMatrix31
10-24-2011, 11:34 AM
So you agree in those weeks the boys don't put it together that it's on Kubiak?

Have you been giving Kubiak criticism in those instances? It would only be fair right? Give him credit when it's due (Sunday @Tennessee) and criticism when he don't (@Baltimore, @New Orleans, home vs Raiders).

I blame whoever needs to be blamed. I have.

Blame Kubiak when I need to, blame Foster when I need to, blame the OL when I need to, etc. I like taking each game, analyzing properly and assessing blame accurately. Why? Because I take things week to week. I don't doom (re: want us to) us to crash and burn just to say I was right, like so many people here do. I let it develop then criticize what needs to be criticized.

Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 11:43 AM
I blame whoever needs to be blamed. I have.

Blame Kubiak when I need to, blame Foster when I need to, blame the OL when I need to, etc. I like taking each game, analyzing properly and assessing blame accurately. Why? Because I take things week to week. I don't doom (re: want us to) us to crash and burn just to say I was right, like so many people here do. I let it develop then criticize what needs to be criticized.

It doesn't take much analyzing when it's the same thing over and over . Any decent team can beat the bad teams it's what you do against the good teams that count . That's where you earn your paycheck and the Raiders and Ravens stole games or at least a split because they forced the Texans to do somethig besides run .

Stop giving people neg reps because they don't agree with you . That's so dumb , it's like standing behind your mother calling people names .

TexansFanatic
10-24-2011, 11:50 AM
I got negative repped and called a troll by David Carr's brother back in the day. I got a huge kick out of that.

TheMatrix31
10-24-2011, 11:53 AM
It doesn't take much analyzing when it's the same thing over and over . Any decent team can beat the bad teams it's what you do against the good teams that count . That's where you earn your paycheck and the Raiders and Ravens stole games or at least a split because they forced the Texans to do somethig besides run .

Stop giving people neg reps because they don't agree with you . That's so dumb , it's like standing behind your mother calling people names .

I said I'll downding anyone who posts with their pessimistic agenda bull**** even after a great and virtually flawless win.

And I will.

Doesn't have anything to do with disagreeing with me. Has everything to do with being being a piece of crap and a downer.

Runner
10-24-2011, 11:57 AM
The Downdinger

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/cow_160483/Funny%20stuff/internet_tough_guys.jpg

Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 12:04 PM
The Downdinger

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff328/cow_160483/Funny%20stuff/internet_tough_guys.jpg

That's the matrix to a T . He's the agenda police and also is responsible for keeping up moral even from Cali but hey everything else has been outsourced right .

Vinny
10-24-2011, 12:05 PM
I got negative repped and called a troll by David Carr's brother back in the day. I got a huge kick out of that.
I think he thought I was the antichrist.

Runner
10-24-2011, 12:06 PM
How the **** am I being an internet tough guy when I'm explaining my rationale for doing what I do?

Has abso-freakin-lutely NOTHING to do with being an "internet tough guy"

Do you even know what the phrase "internet tough guy" means? I think it means when they make threats like "Oh, I'll beat you and your children's asses if I ever saw you in real life, then I'd piss on your car and light it on fire."

I base it on your tough talk. Of course, I just may be mistaking all those * I see in your posts. Maybe they are used like Kurt Vonnegut Jr. used them in his writing...

FirstTexansFan
10-24-2011, 12:06 PM
I think he thought I was the antichrist.

You mean you aren't? Damnit, built an altar to the wrong demigod again.. ooops :)

TheMatrix31
10-24-2011, 12:08 PM
I base it on your tough talk. Of course, I just may be mistaking all those * I see in your posts. Maybe they are used like Kurt Vonnegut Jr. used them in his writing...


Might want to read the posts then to see what I'm saying and why I'd be charged up on a particular issue.

Though the asterisks are probably a turnoff--and an excuse to not read.

Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 12:09 PM
How the **** am I being an internet tough guy when I'm explaining my rationale for doing what I do?

Has abso-freakin-lutely NOTHING to do with being an "internet tough guy"

Do you even know what the phrase "internet tough guy" means? I think it means when they make threats like "Oh, I'll beat you and your children's asses if I ever saw you in real life, then I'd piss on your car and light it on fire."

Yea you are , because I'm sure wouldn't say half the things you do face to face . It's like the guy in the big truck who rides your ass honking . Then you both end up at the same place and he's about 5'5 ( not that there's anything wrong with 5'5 Bill ) and you ask if he's got a problem and he says ... no .

It's not about who can win a fight it's about being civil and realizing that yours is not the only opinion and the Texans don't know who in the hell you are .

TexansFanatic
10-24-2011, 12:09 PM
I think he thought I was the antichrist.

:spit:

Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 12:12 PM
I got negative repped and called a troll by David Carr's brother back in the day. I got a huge kick out of that.

I had Carr's brother wanting to meet somewhere to explain things . I don't remember what I said but it was funny .

Hulk , Ibar Harry , QB75 , those wre the days .

Corrosion
10-24-2011, 12:13 PM
Yea you are , because I'm sure wouldn't say half the things you do face to face . It's like the guy in the big truck who rides your ass honking . Then you both end up at the same place and he's about 5'5 ( not that there's anything wrong with 5'5 Bill ) and you ask if he's got a problem and he says ... no .

It's not about who can win a fight it's about being civil and realizing that yours is not the only opinion and the Texans don't know who in the hell you are .

TB has a crazy friend who's 6'3 about 230 ..... he can talk **** if he wants :d:


To the bold .... that may or may not be true , there are quite a few people around here with ties to the team one way or another ....

TheMatrix31
10-24-2011, 12:15 PM
Yea you are , because I'm sure wouldn't say half the things you do face to face . It's like the guy in the big truck who rides your ass honking . Then you both end up at the same place and he's about 5'5 ( not that there's anything wrong with 5'5 Bill ) and you ask if he's got a problem and he says ... no .

It's not about who can win a fight it's about being civil and realizing that yours is not the only opinion and the Texans don't know who in the hell you are .

You'd be surprised. I'm a pretty brash, honest dude. I know, it's shocking for someone to actually have integrity and consistency in how they act. Not exactly the norm in today's society. It's okay, can't prove it so don't want to make it seem like I'm just wagging my dick. I am most definitely not afraid to speak my mind, as is plainly evident, lol.

I have made it abundantly clear that mine is not the only opinion, and a lot of my posting actually revolves around the fact that the Texans don't know who I, or ANY of us are, so incessant bitching about Kubiak and Smith being the ill for our team, their team, hurricanes, terrorism, the economy, Obama sucking dick, Steve Jobs dying, cancer in general, etc at every turn even after huge wins is not conducive to anything and for some people to just go week to week.

Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 12:16 PM
TB has a crazy friend who's 6'3 about 230 ..... he can talk **** if he wants :d:


To the bold .... that may or may not be true , there are quite a few people around here with ties to the team one way or another ....


It's never the loud guys that scare me it's the guys that don't blink and are quiet .



I was fishing and caught a ... um ... catfish . :chickendance:

thunderkyss
10-24-2011, 12:26 PM
TB has a crazy friend who's 6'3 about 230 ..... he can talk **** if he wants .

OH, a little guy eh?

Hervoyel
10-24-2011, 12:43 PM
I had Carr's brother wanting to meet somewhere to explain things . I don't remember what I said but it was funny .

Hulk , Ibar Harry , QB75 , those wre the days .

I'll see your Ibar Harry and raise you one "Lazarus".

Every jar has a biggest nut and Laz was IMO easily the one. See him posting comments on Chron.com sometimes and can't help but laugh. Some things never change.

TheMatrix31
10-24-2011, 12:46 PM
Glad I wasn't around when those dudes were around. David Carr's brother actually posted here? LOL.

Corrosion
10-24-2011, 12:48 PM
OH, a little guy eh?

Just ask TB about the ..... "Melonhead Incident."

Kthx
10-24-2011, 12:53 PM
See Matrix these forums are sorta like the Texans. People start out talking **** but by the end of the thread(season) if things end up working out and you realize they aren't really terrible you end up respecting them. Hard won respect is the best respect to have.

Hervoyel
10-24-2011, 12:54 PM
Glad I wasn't around when those dudes were around. David Carr's brother actually posted here? LOL.

And you think you don't like all the negativity? You should have seen him spinning David's every miscue. He was a walking, talking, sunshine enema to anyone who would listen for a while. Then it got worse and he got angry.

TexansFanatic
10-24-2011, 12:56 PM
And you think you don't like all the negativity? You should have seen him spinning David's every miscue. He was a walking, talking, sunshine enema to anyone who would listen for a while. Then it got worse and he got angry.

If for no other reason, you gotta hand it to the guy for his loyalty. We should all have a brother like that.

Hervoyel
10-24-2011, 01:01 PM
If for no other reason, you gotta hand it to the guy for his loyalty. We should all have a brother like that.

Granted. He was one loyal brother.

thunderkyss
10-24-2011, 01:06 PM
If for no other reason, you gotta hand it to the guy for his loyalty. We should all have a brother like that.

If David Carr was my brother I'd take some of the things said on this board & straitened him out.

Everybody here wanted David to be a success. Everybody.

Sometimes we were a little harsh in our criticism, but that's because the rhetoric got a little thick & we all invest a lot of emotion into this team, David Carr included.

The guy was extremely talented & could have been one of the best, if he ever tried to work on his craft.

I understand priorities, I've got a family as well & I hold them extremely high on my list. At the same time, if I'm going to take $8 million/year to do a job, I'm going to do the best damn job I possibly can. That's what honorable men do. That's what Christian men do.

Anything else is stealing.

TexansFanatic
10-24-2011, 01:15 PM
If David Carr was my brother I'd take some of the things said on this board & straitened him out.

Everybody here wanted David to be a success. Everybody.



Well, we don't know for sure Carr's brother didn't do that.

But hey, you're preaching to the choir. I was behind the curve on Carr----meaning I didn't want to give up on him as early as a lot of other fans.

We live in a time when entertainers and athletes are paid so much money for their services that many of them are in it purely for the money and not for the passion for what they do.

I see a lot of God-given ability wasted in David Carr and I do fault him for not putting in the work required to maximize those gifts when he was being paid so much money. But I can't fault him for cashing the checks. After all, Bob kept signing them.

TheMatrix31
10-24-2011, 01:23 PM
Funny enough, David Carr's rise to consensus #1 was what sealed me as a Texans fan. I'm from Fresno and was pretty much team-less (rooted for the 49ers but never really stuck) until the Texans were announced.

9, 10 years later, dude was a bust, and I'm a Texans fan for life.

TexansFanatic
10-24-2011, 01:28 PM
I honestly believe Bob wasn't paying Dave only for his football ability.

I think Bob also loved having a GQ model as the face of his franchise.

That's why it was such a struggle for him to finally accept the reality that the results on the field were screaming out that the team was in dire need of a change.

thunderkyss
10-24-2011, 01:33 PM
I honestly believe Bob wasn't paying Dave only for his football ability.

I think Bob also loved having a GQ model as the face of his franchise.

That's why it was such a struggle for him to finally accept the reality that the results on the field were screaming out that the team was in dire need of a change.

I think the problem was that you had coaches who repeatedly told him they could do something with David. Maybe they thought they could. But you change OCs, QB coaches, Offensive line personnel, HCs....

Damn if it's not always the last place you think to look.

Dread-Head
10-24-2011, 01:34 PM
Sorry for me the play of the game was STILL Rackers cold cocking a guy on a kick off return!

TheMatrix31
10-24-2011, 01:39 PM
I honestly believe Bob wasn't paying Dave only for his football ability.

I think Bob also loved having a GQ model as the face of his franchise.

That's why it was such a struggle for him to finally accept the reality that the results on the field were screaming out that the team was in dire need of a change.

In theory, there's nothing wrong with having a really good, clean-cut guy being the face of the franchise. It's good business.

Football doesn't always go along with those plans, though.

HOU-TEX
10-24-2011, 01:44 PM
Dadgum, we go from Schaub having a good day at the office to HWWNBN? Geesh

TexansFanatic
10-24-2011, 01:44 PM
I think the problem was that you had coaches who repeatedly told him they could do something with David. Maybe they thought they could.

Some folks believe Kubiak lied to Bob in order to get the job. It was clear to everyone that Bob didn't want to hear David was the problem and that the franchise player was a dud. Knowing that, Kubiak told Bob what he wanted to hear.

Having subsequently watched Kubiak go out and grab Dan Orlovsky, I think the truth is Kubiak probably did believe he could fix Carr. What Kubiak couldn't have known from just watching film is that Dave simply wasn't that into being the franchise. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink....

ChampionTexan
10-24-2011, 02:00 PM
I honestly believe Bob wasn't paying Dave only for his football ability.

I think Bob also loved having a GQ model as the face of his franchise.

That's why it was such a struggle for him to finally accept the reality that the results on the field were screaming out that the team was in dire need of a change.

Yep - especially when you consider that even though the replacement is a much better option from a football standpoint...well, let's just say he can't compete in the cover boy department.

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Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 02:07 PM
I'll see your Ibar Harry and raise you one "Lazarus".

Every jar has a biggest nut and Laz was IMO easily the one. See him posting comments on Chron.com sometimes and can't help but laugh. Some things never change.

Remember Caddy , he loved Carr .

Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 02:15 PM
I think the problem was that you had coaches who repeatedly told him they could do something with David. Maybe they thought they could. But you change OCs, QB coaches, Offensive line personnel, HCs....

Damn if it's not always the last place you think to look.

I posted it and you read Dave's senior bowl diary . That fortold a lot of the future .

Some of his biggest problems were his clan . It's like they all packed up and moved here and thought they were part of the team ( see the haircut episode ) . They were a naive bunch who didn't have a clue what David needed to succeed . Hulk would say Davy didn't have any weapons ... well ... AJ's on his way to the HOF and Gaffney is still around .

I wished I had a dollar for every excuse they made $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ .

HOU-TEX
10-24-2011, 02:42 PM
Remember Caddy , he loved Carr .

So did petedy (I think that was his name). He even followed him to the Panthers message board pumping their fans full of HWWNBN.

IlliniJen
10-24-2011, 02:50 PM
Sick and tired of seeing "HWWNBN".

VOLDEMORT!

There. Sheesh.

GP
10-24-2011, 03:37 PM
So did petedy (I think that was his name). He even followed him to the Panthers message board pumping their fans full of HWWNBN.

Wasn't there also a Three-Toed-Pete who did likewise here? Or was petedy and Three-Toed-Pete the same person?

caddy sent me one of the most mean-spirited Private Messages ever. I think he neg rep'd me, put me on full blast on the board, and then sent me a PM to top it off. He was pissed that I dared to talk bad about his boy David Carr.

LOL.

EllisUnit
10-24-2011, 04:14 PM
See Matrix these forums are sorta like the Texans. People start out talking **** but by the end of the thread(season) if things end up working out and you realize they aren't really terrible you end up respecting them. Hard won respect is the best respect to have.

ur telling me :mcnugget:

Honoring Earl 34
10-24-2011, 04:46 PM
Wasn't there also a Three-Toed-Pete who did likewise here? Or was petedy and Three-Toed-Pete the same person?

caddy sent me one of the most mean-spirited Private Messages ever. I think he neg rep'd me, put me on full blast on the board, and then sent me a PM to top it off. He was pissed that I dared to talk bad about his boy David Carr.

LOL.

I think this is right , Caddy made money betting on the Texans . I don't remember how but it was against Davie .

Lucky
10-24-2011, 06:44 PM
Dadgum, we go from Schaub having a good day at the office to HWWNBN? Geesh
Matt Schaub called and asked for his thread back.