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House of Pain
10-21-2011, 02:36 AM
Texans owner Bob McNair has a message for his coaches and players as they prepare to play the Tennessee Titans for first place in the AFC South.

"It's time to stand and deliver," McNair said.

After a 2-0 start, the Texans (3-3) have lost three or four, including the last two, but they have a chance to move into first place if they can win on Sunday at LP Field, where they have a 2-7 record.

The Titans (3-2) are coming off their open date.

"It's not a must-win game, but it kind of has that feeling," cornerback Johnathan Joseph said. "It's a division opponent and a road game. To be good in this league, you have to win on the road."

After finishing 5-3 on the road in 2009, the Texans have gone 3-8, including 1-2 this season.

"We're not hiding any secrets," outside linebacker Connor Barwin said. "We need to win. They're half a game ahead of us, which makes it more important.

"It's a huge game. I think we all understand what's at stake."

The Titans have a new coach in Mike Munchak. He was elevated to replace Jeff Fisher, who resigned after 17 years.

"They're the same Titans; they're playing nasty like they always do," tight end Joel Dreessen said.

Dreessen was one of the many players who participated in the dirtiest game in this series. The last time the Texans won at LP Field was in 2009, when they escaped with a 34-31 victory.

That game featured fights, personal fouls and ejections. Commissioner Roger Goodell levied several fines.

Anger on the field

Some Titans, notably defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch, went for Dreessen's knees in retaliation for what was perceived as a dirty play by the tight end the previous season. Offensive tackle Eric Winston became so angry he ripped off his helmet on the field and challenged Vanden Bosch to a fight.

"We had gotten our tails whipped at home by the Jets, and everyone was mad at us when we went to Tennessee," Dreessen said. "It was a bloodbath. It was a nasty, physical game.

"It's a great feeling to go through a grind like that, a battle, and it gives you a sense of achievement that you've done something."

The Texans need to do something big on Sunday to make up for losses to Oakland and Baltimore.

"This is one of those games that's big for both teams," Winston said. "It's definitely one that you circle.

"Any time you hit a little bit of a skid, you have to get out of it somehow. Winning on the road is one of the best feelings in the world. Doing it in Tennessee would be tough, (but) it would be that much sweeter to do it there."

Receiver Derrick Mason played his first eight seasons with the Titans and the last six with the Ravens.

"They're just a tough team," Mason said about the Titans. "They're just a nasty team in a good way, and that's the way you're supposed to play football. You have to have a nastiness to you.

"Regardless of (circumstances), they're always going to give you a tough fight. It's always going to be a rough one."

Kevin Walter knows the significance of gaining the upper hand on the Titans.

"This is the biggest game on the schedule so far," he said. "The past two weeks have been very disappointing, but we're still playing for first place. There's a lot on the line.

"They (Titans) are going to be fresh. They're going to be flying around at home. We've got to run the ball better, convert on third down and make plays in the red zone. That's what it's going to come down to."

'It's a tough challenge'

In a 2007 loss, quarterback Matt Schaub was knocked out of a game at LP Field with a dislocated left shoulder.

"It's a tough environment to play in," Schaub said. "It's always going to be a hard-nosed, emotional game. There are always battles between us.

"It's a tough challenge but one we're looking forward to.

"Talk is overrated at that point. There is only so much you can say. We just have to be ready to play 100 percent from start to finish."

Is this a message to Kubiak?

It should be.

stingray
10-21-2011, 02:39 AM
Kubiak better be fired if they lose this game.

mussop
10-21-2011, 07:24 AM
I only read the bolded part. Why waste my time with the rest? McNair needs to listen to his own words.

TejasTom
10-21-2011, 07:55 AM
I like it a lot better than last years "We're on the right track"

HJam72
10-21-2011, 08:36 AM
I like it a lot better than last years "We're on the right track"

I think that guy in your avatar is ready. :d:

HTown2ATX
10-21-2011, 08:58 AM
"It's not a must-win game, but it kind of has that feeling," cornerback Johnathan Joseph said. "It's a division opponent and a road game. To be good in this league, you have to win on the road."

THIS irritates me. This friggin mentality...YES JJ....it *IS* a must win game!

Just like how when we got set to play the Cowpies it was "just another game" to them. FML

:kubepalm:

Kthx
10-21-2011, 09:10 AM
It seems to me that most of the players sound sorta fired up at least instead of giving us this years zombie chant of one game at a time. I like seeing some people calling out the the Titans and hoping for a physical game. I know the Texans vs Titans is one of my favorite games to watch every year because you get to see some real emotions out of the Texans. I just wish they could do it every week.

As for McNair.. I don't think hes stupid and he finally gave Kubiak everything he needed to win this season. If this pattern of opening strong, utterly failing the middle, and then "rallying" behind Kubiak to win a few pointless games at the end of the season continues he will be gone I think.

Honoring Earl 34
10-21-2011, 09:15 AM
http://www.chartstats.com/images/artwork/4232.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
10-21-2011, 11:15 AM
Houston Texans team report: McNair: 'It's time to stand up and deliver' (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-10-20/houston-texans-team-report-mcnair-its-time-to-stand-up-and-deliver#ixzz1bQfcRJ4Y)
PUBLISHED 18 hours and 15 minutes ago
LAST UPDATED 17 hours and 57 minutes ago
John McClain Sporting News


HOUSTON — Before the season, team owner Bob McNair said he expected the Texans to not only make the playoffs but to go far in the postseason.

Now that the team has lost three of four—and two in a row— entering Sunday’s showdown at Tennessee for first place in the AFC South, McNair let his players and coaches know what he thinks about the Titans game.

“It’s time to stand and deliver,” he told the Houston Chronicle.

That message is clear: McNair expects his team to win at LP Field, which has been a house of horrors for the Texans. They are 2-7 in Nashville.

To their credit, the players haven’t called it “just another game.” The Texans (3-3) have been talking about the importance of beating a bitter rival in what they believe will be a physical game and taking a one-half game lead over the Titans (3-2), not to mention having the tiebreaker advantage because of a division win.

“It’s not a must-win game, but it kind of feels like it,” Texans cornerback Johnathan Joseph said.

Notes: Joseph has been worth every bit of the $23.5 million guaranteed he received to sign as a free agent in the offseason. Joseph is off to a Pro Bowl-type start with a team-best three interceptions. He also had an interception return for a touchdown and a fumble return for a TD nullified because of penalties.

What the coaches like best about Joseph, who played his first five seasons at Cincinnati, is his speed, his coverage ability and his ball skills.

They say he’s fearless, too, and will challenge any receiver at the line of scrimmage. Opposing quarterbacks are shying away from Joseph and throwing more to the other side, where Kareem Jackson and Jason Allen are playing on a rotating basis. ...

Although the Texans won't say it, Pro Bowl wide receiver Andre Johnson (hamstring) and fullback James Casey (chest) won't start at Tennessee. Neither has practiced this week.


With all the walking wounded, I hope the team has enough players that CAN still stand up and deliver from beginning through the end of the game.

But if they lose, will McNair have quickly forgotten his own words like in the past?

TimeKiller
10-21-2011, 11:19 AM
It IS a must win game. THIS is the team that is standing in the way of them and the playoffs. This game is a MUST WIN and the next time they play (I believe the final regular season game) is a MUST WIN. THEY MUST WIN THIS GAME.

What I'm trying to say is....

Quick II Draw
10-21-2011, 11:27 AM
http://theurbandaily.com/files/2011/06/stand-deliver_l.jpg

BigBull17
10-21-2011, 11:28 AM
What's the point in these comments? If they lose he'll just say the other owners gave them a participation trophy. People say Kubiak is on a hot seat, but anything short of 3-13 he'll get another year. If they go 8-8 and squeeze into the play-offs, everyone will get 9 year extensions. We are a soft team.

CloakNNNdagger
10-21-2011, 11:29 AM
I just realized that there is already a thread on this subject.

MODS PLEASE MERGE. Thanks.

Thorn
10-21-2011, 11:31 AM
I'll accept it's a must win game. But the first person who mentions it's our super bowl should get negative rep from everyone.

Runner
10-21-2011, 11:36 AM
I'll accept it's a must win game. But the first person who mentions it's our super bowl should get negative rep from everyone.

Can it be said that it's the game that "shows what they're made of"? We haven't had one of those in like a week.

Vinny
10-21-2011, 11:51 AM
I'll accept it's a must win game. But the first person who mentions it's our super bowl should get negative rep from everyone.
friggin' huge, huge game though. To take control of the division against the top divisional opponent is huge. Lose this game and the Titans control their own destiny, putting us in yet another situation where we need others teams help to beat the division leader to help us out. It would be a National disgrace to have the rebuilding Titans as the best team in this division. This week determines that.

Double Barrel
10-21-2011, 11:54 AM
Words are cheap. This forum has lots of words. Talk radio has lots of words. Anyone can put words out there.

What matters is what happens on the field between 12:00 and 3:00 on Sunday. That is where this team will prove that this game means what they say it means.

If this season is going to be The Season, then the Texans should act like it against the Titans. This game is huge as it regards the impact in the division and the rest of the season. I never advocate a 'must win' game in week 7, but this is as close as it gets to that kind of mentality.

Kthx
10-21-2011, 12:07 PM
Is it huge enough to be "our superbowl" DB? :P

El Tejano
10-21-2011, 12:08 PM
friggin' huge, huge game though. To take control of the division against the top divisional opponent is huge. Lose this game and the Titans control their own destiny, putting us in yet another situation where we need others teams help to beat the division leader to help us out. It would be a National disgrace to have the rebuilding Titans as the best team in this division. This week determines that.

Very true! :clap:

Rey
10-21-2011, 12:18 PM
I don't have a good feeling about this game.

My faith in the team for this year has been shattered. A win this weekend could go a long way to restoring that faith, but I'm picking us to lose.

Double Barrel
10-21-2011, 12:26 PM
Is it huge enough to be "our superbowl" DB? :P

lol! Nope, only one game is worthy of being called our Super Bowl, and that game is played in February. :fingergun:

ThaShark316
10-21-2011, 12:34 PM
Like I said:

If they love GK, think and want this to be "the year" and are tired of all the critics...they'll be 4-3.

If not, they are going to get the coach fired.

IDEXAN
10-21-2011, 12:35 PM
This is not a "must win" game IMO, but lose and we are definitely in a hole vs
who appears to be our primary competitor for both the AFC south title and a playoff spot since probably only one team from this division goes to the 2012 playoffs. A example of must game is when a loss will mathematically eliminate a team from all PO consideration.
BTW, this is arguably a bigger game for the Titans than for us since it's at there place.

ThaShark316
10-21-2011, 12:36 PM
THIS irritates me. This friggin mentality...YES JJ....it *IS* a must win game!

Just like how when we got set to play the Cowpies it was "just another game" to them. FML

:kubepalm:

JJ's correct.

Vinny
10-21-2011, 12:44 PM
it's not must win, its a "must play well" game.

http://nbcprofootballtalk.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/d-carr.jpg?w=250

Porky
10-21-2011, 12:45 PM
Wow, check out this breaking news. McNair is serious this time!


AP Breaking News

This intrepid reporter has learned from an unmamed source that Houston Texans owner Robert McNair Jr has given his team an ultimatum. Come out of Nashville with a win this Sunday, or the owner will not be taking the kids out for ice cream at Dairy Queen this week.



AP Breaking News

Updating an earlier report, the office of Houston Texans owner Robert McNair has sent this reporter a heated correction to an earlier breaking news story. McNair vehemently denies that he will withhold ice cream from his kids. However, no player may be allowed to get his cone dipped. This is straight from the source, so no dipping of cones for any player this week unless they win. To get player reaction we spoke to defensive captain Ryans. Speaking for the entire team, he was visibly shaken and upset, and in fact do not be surprised to see a grievence filed with the NFLPA. More news as it breaks.

Double Barrel
10-21-2011, 12:47 PM
Jeebus! He's going to break their will with that kind of harsh threat. No dipping?!? :eek:

thunderkyss
10-21-2011, 12:48 PM
But if they lose, will McNair have quickly forgotten his own words like in the past?

I think he'll give them until they get back to Houston before he drops that bomb on them.

(actually I don't, I'm just framing a 12 hour period where we'll anxiously await the news.... but we all know Double Barrel is right on this one).

thunderkyss
10-21-2011, 12:55 PM
Like I said:

If they love GK, think and want this to be "the year" and are tired of all the critics...they'll be 4-3.

If not, they are going to get the coach fired.


This is not a "must win" game IMO, but lose and we are definitely in a hole vs
who appears to be our primary competitor for both the AFC south title and a playoff spot since probably only one team from this division goes to the 2012 playoffs. A example of must game is when a loss will mathematically eliminate a team from all PO consideration.
BTW, this is arguably a bigger game for the Titans than for us since it's at there place.

I think these posts are correct, when taken together. If we lose this game, the season isn't over, so it's not "really" a must win for the team.

But this has got to be a must win for Kubiak. If they don't win, the team (that doesn't quit) is pretty much saying what they feel about GK.... McNair may be delaying the inevitable, but I think ThaShark316 is dead on; on this one.

It's a must win for Kubiak.


:koolaid:

Honoring Earl 34
10-21-2011, 01:04 PM
I think these posts are correct, when taken together. If we lose this game, the season isn't over, so it's not "really" a must win for the team.

But this has got to be a must win for Kubiak. If they don't win, the team (that doesn't quit) is pretty much saying what they feel about GK.... McNair may be delaying the inevitable, but I think ThaShark316 is dead on; on this one.

It's a must win for Kubiak.


:koolaid:

http://blog.chron.com/texanschick/files/legacy/Team-Wary-Face-Palm.jpg

b0ng
10-21-2011, 01:11 PM
http://theurbandaily.com/files/2011/06/stand-deliver_l.jpg

More like

http://southparkstudios.mtvnimages.com/shared/downloads/images/season-12/1205/1205_how-reach-kids.jpg?width=320

False Start
10-21-2011, 01:17 PM
THIS irritates me. This friggin mentality...YES JJ....it *IS* a must win game!

Just like how when we got set to play the Cowpies it was "just another game" to them. FML

:kubepalm:


Yeah, that kind of bugged me too. Is this mentality contagious? :thinking:

HTown2ATX
10-21-2011, 01:26 PM
Yeah, that kind of bugged me too. Is this mentality contagious? :thinking:

Well, you and I must be wrong or at least in the minority....not sure they are serious but some on here think it's not a must win game either...so who knows.

:confused:

gwallaia
10-21-2011, 01:43 PM
This is the pep talk the Texans need before kick-off.

**Warning:** Adult language may be inappropriate for younger message board members.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw7KijRfU-c

CloakNNNdagger
10-21-2011, 02:22 PM
Not a must win game?????? Seems it was Lombardi that once said "Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit. Every year we hope that the habit does not carry over. Every year we affirm that we are addicted. It's long past time to see things change.

Vinny
10-21-2011, 02:24 PM
Well, you and I must be wrong or at least in the minority....not sure they are serious but some on here think it's not a must win game either...so who knows.

:confused:the sunshine pumpers are ready and waiting for the next rationalization.

TejasTom
10-21-2011, 02:27 PM
I think that guy in your avatar is ready. :d:

Yes, I think Cush will be ready.

badboy
10-21-2011, 02:38 PM
I don't know about the team or coaches but for me it is a must win.

GP
10-21-2011, 02:41 PM
Well, when Bob puts his foot down...he means BUSINESS. Literally.

And business is good.

Bob is the parent who says to the unruly kids in the backseat of the station wagon: "If you act up ONE MORE TIME...I'm turning this car around and we're going back to the house. I mean it!"

The kids know that dear old Dad has driven too far to turn around now.

He's fooling nobody. BFD, Bob.

CloakNNNdagger
10-21-2011, 02:43 PM
This is the pep talk the Texans need before kick-off.

**Warning:** Adult language may be inappropriate for younger message board members.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw7KijRfU-c

That was PRICELESS! Can you picture Kubiak ever taking that "subtle" approach? Just PRICELESS!

Honoring Earl 34
10-21-2011, 02:55 PM
Not a must win game?????? Seems it was Lombardi that once said "Once you learn to quit, it becomes a habit. Every year we hope that the habit does not carry over. Every year we affirm that we are addicted. It's long past time to see things change.

On the NFL channel they had a show about the 49er dynasty . The main emotional nutjob who help turn it around was Ronnie Lott . At the half of a bad performance Lott went into a tyrade calling everyone out and throwing his helmet and smashing it against the wall . It didn't matter that he was a rookie because his team fell in line .

Vinny
10-21-2011, 02:58 PM
On the NFL channel they had a show about the 49er dynasty . The main emotional nutjob who help turn it around was Ronnie Lott . At the half of a bad performance Lott went into a tyrade calling everyone out and throwing his helmet and smashing it against the wall . It didn't matter that he was a rookie because his team fell in line .

I hear that Schaub got so mad after one loss that he threw his latte into the trashcan without a liner. and it wasn't even finished yet!

HTown2ATX
10-21-2011, 03:02 PM
I hear that Schaub got so mad after one loss that he threw his latte into the trashcan without a liner. and it wasn't even finished yet!

LMAO at work in quiet office at this!!!!

:lol:

Double Barrel
10-21-2011, 03:06 PM
CHOOOO CHOOOO!!

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1643&dateline=1292949299

My sig from last year...on tap should they lose on Sunday...

Honoring Earl 34
10-21-2011, 03:07 PM
I hear that Schaub got so mad after one loss that he threw his latte into the trashcan without a liner. and it wasn't even finished yet!

Bob was so mad that Schaub was so mad that he threatened to remove the coffee bar from the locker room .

Honoring Earl 34
10-21-2011, 03:10 PM
CHOOOO CHOOOO!!

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/image.php?type=sigpic&userid=1643&dateline=1292949299

My sig from last year...on tap should they lose on Sunday...

We could have a car race in Houston that would be most fitting . The Houston Texan 500 .

Kaiser Toro
10-21-2011, 03:11 PM
Bob was spitting some serious soft serve

80tothezone
10-21-2011, 03:17 PM
I think he'll give them until they get back to Houston before he drops that bomb on them.

(actually I don't, I'm just framing a 12 hour period where we'll anxiously await the news.... but we all know Double Barrel is right on this one).

i think a loss here and WP might get his second shot at a HC position.... well he should anyway...

BigBull17
10-21-2011, 03:24 PM
I hear that Schaub got so mad after one loss that he threw his (hot chocolate w/Marshmellows) into the trashcan without a liner. and it wasn't even finished yet!

Fixed it. Such a manley statement. Look out.

Thorn
10-21-2011, 03:33 PM
That was PRICELESS! Can you picture Kubiak ever taking that "subtle" approach? Just PRICELESS!

Yeah, I bet it would wake up a few folks though. LOL

Surreal McCoy
10-21-2011, 04:17 PM
Kubiak better be fired if they lose this game.

Or if they win but don't score 70? lol

Hervoyel
10-21-2011, 05:35 PM
McNair just says what he thinks people want to hear. I'm sorry but none of these statements really makes any kind of impression on me anymore. The sample questionaire came back from the focus group and an overwhelming majority of Texans fans responded that they'd like Bob to start talking like he's got a pair so he had marketing come up with a few "tough guy" lines and this was the one he sounded least silly using.

Do it. I don't give a damn what anyone with the Texans says anymore. Just do it and quit acting like words are gonna get it done. Go up there to Nashville and beat that ass like you should and that's enough.

TdotTexas2Step
10-21-2011, 06:41 PM
When "must win" is used during the middle portion of the season, I was always of the opinion that it meant the result of this game could play a significant role come the final game of the season.

Ultimately, this game may very well decide whether we beat out the Titans for the division title.

gary
10-21-2011, 08:19 PM
I am sure McNair is tired of losing and he was honestly hoping that Kubiak would workout as an HC but so far he hasn't. Every owner wants to win but Bob is a bit too loyal and that is just the way he is.

Lucky
10-21-2011, 08:24 PM
Every owner wants to win but Bob is a bit too loyal and that is just the way he is.
How about a little loyalty to the fans who pay for this mediocrity, year after year? Bob's too loyal? I'm the one who's too loyal.

gary
10-21-2011, 08:33 PM
How about a little loyalty to the fans who pay for this mediocrity, year after year? Bob's too loyal? I'm the one who's too loyal.Hopefully after hiring a DC that he thought would change things if it does not then I think Bob will do what he needs to do.

BeerTastesLikeVictory
10-21-2011, 09:54 PM
I hear that Schaub got so mad after one loss that he threw his latte into the trashcan without a liner. and it wasn't even finished yet!

It's my understanding the traditional Texans post game self reflection tea time with finger sandwiches has been suspended by uncle Bob pending the next win.

Thorn
10-21-2011, 10:18 PM
Are we gonna win or not? I don't give a shit about the rest.

mussop
10-21-2011, 10:38 PM
i think a loss here and WP might get his second shot at a HC position.... well he should anyway...

HELL NO!!!!! And this wouldn't be his second shot.

steelbtexan
10-21-2011, 10:48 PM
BoBBy,

Blah Blah Blah....

He did this, talk is cheap

Is this the yr that BoBBy said was playoffs or bust? Or the yr before, Or the yr before etc...?

Just shut up BoBBy, even Jamey cant PR your way out of this one.

JimBaker488
10-21-2011, 10:58 PM
How about a little loyalty to the fans who pay for this mediocrity, year after year? Bob's too loyal? I'm the one who's too loyal.
Don't like it, you got 31 other flavs out there.

ObsiWan
10-22-2011, 01:04 AM
I hear that Schaub got so mad after one loss that he threw his latte into the trashcan without a liner. and it wasn't even finished yet!

Certain offensive players, after witnessing this, were surprised and somewhat impressed that Schaub didn't underthrow the open trashcan.

GNTLEWOLF
10-22-2011, 01:44 AM
:spit:Certain offensive players, after witnessing this, were surprised and somewhat impressed that Schaub didn't underthrow the open trashcan.

I blew Diet Coke out my nose on that one...Rep