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TexansFanatic
10-16-2011, 09:03 PM
I honestly believe Kubiak should be fired on the spot and have his name redacted from all Texans records if they lose in Nashville next week.

sometexansfan
10-16-2011, 09:06 PM
I honestly believe Kubiak should be fired on the spot and have his name redacted from all Texans records if they lose in Nashville next week.

I agree.

panamamyers
10-16-2011, 09:09 PM
There will be some kind of positive win here if we lose next week. You can take that to the bank. It was on the road. We still have them at home. Something.

TexansFanatic
10-16-2011, 09:11 PM
There will be some kind of positive win here if we lose next week. You can take that to the bank. It was on the road. We still have them at home. Something.

LOL I don't doubt that. And I don't want to diminish folks who are capable of sustaining that kind of positivity in their outlooks.

My mother used to say, "Hope springs eternal."

Dishman
10-16-2011, 09:12 PM
There will be some kind of positive win here if we lose next week. You can take that to the bank. It was on the road. We still have them at home. Something.

Book it.

Mr. Texan
10-16-2011, 09:12 PM
"our best players were not on the field"

"they're a better team than a lot of people give them credit for. they beat the ravens"

:)

badboy
10-16-2011, 09:13 PM
I will be thoroughly PO and caling eveyone out. But as Vinny says, I am a sunshine pumper. THis is Gary & Matts do or die year.

mugrakers
10-16-2011, 09:13 PM
If we lose... I want to lose in blowout fashion... so that we're finally done with hope with this regime.

valleytexfan
10-16-2011, 09:14 PM
No. If that happens, fire Kubiak, give it to Wade, and let Dennison/Knapp call the plays. That is all.

mariowillshine15
10-16-2011, 09:16 PM
We should sweep the division. Anything less than 6-0 is a failure.

Even without Andre and Mario we still have the best team in the division.

thunderkyss
10-16-2011, 09:17 PM
I honestly believe Kubiak should be fired on the spot and have his name redacted from all Texans records if they lose in Nashville next week.

Not me.. But I refuse to act like an ass (again) or stop supporting my team. I'll wear my Texans gear with pride & I'll be anxiously sitting in my seat wearing battle red for Jax @ home.

:texan:

However, I already posted that I expect McNair to fire Kubiak if we lose 3 in a row... he probably won't, but I can't control that.

DX-TEX
10-16-2011, 09:17 PM
we should sweep the division. Anything less than 6-0 is a failure.

Even without andre and mario we still have the best team in the division.

iawtp

Lucky
10-16-2011, 09:21 PM
Is anyone here going to accept a loss to the Titans and a 3-4 start?
Yes, there will be plenty. I can probably name 10 off the top of my head.

"We can still go 12-4!"

"What about the players?"

"You can't blow up a team that's this close."

"How can you win with your top 2 player injured?"

Forget the fact that they've lost with the same 2 players for 5 years previous. Until this team is eliminated from the playoffs, we'll have sunshine pumped into the forum. I'm rolling with it. :butterfly:

Shaft75
10-16-2011, 09:22 PM
not no, but heeeeeeeeellllllll no!

BTHO TINBREDS!!!

fiasco west
10-16-2011, 09:24 PM
No way no how. I'm on the DOOM wagon if they lose this game at Tennesse.

Good teams don't go on losing streaks.

True it is one game but there are points in the season where momentum can be changed. If the Texans had won in Balty today I think it would have been such a lift to the confidence to win against a tough team on the road without Andre...losing this game would be the opposite of that.

House of Pain
10-16-2011, 09:24 PM
Allegedly, if 'heads rolled' at the post-Raiders game, I can't wait to see what happens if the Texans lose to the Tacks.

eriadoc
10-16-2011, 09:25 PM
Accept? No. I've been a member of the pink soap club for a couple years now. Expect? I don't expect it, but to be honest with you, it wouldn't shock me.

Shouldn't it shock me?

TheMatrix31
10-16-2011, 09:26 PM
**** no I won't accept it.

But do we have any insiders in the Texans organization who are going to relay our dismay? If not, then we're just fans, and we'll "have to" accept it until they get their heads out of their asses and get a new crew in.

Losing to the Titans would be UNacceptable. ESPECIALLY if Andre's back. Quite frankly, I expect to beat their ass. Badly.

Ckw
10-16-2011, 09:27 PM
Yes, there will be plenty. I can probably name 10 off the top of my head.

"We can still go 12-4!"

"What about the players?"

"You can't blow up a team that's this close."

"How can you win with your top 2 player injured?"

Forget the fact that they've lost with the same 2 players for 5 years previous. Until this team is eliminated from the playoffs, we'll have sunshine pumped into the forum. I'm rolling with it. :butterfly:

Yep. Gary's Sunshine Kids always find the bright side of the bull's anus.

If this was a poll, I'd be the overwhelming majority would say they would not accept a loss to the Titans next week. But come next week, those excuses (along with many others) will come rising to the surface.

But, but, but, just leave Gary alone!!!!!

TexansFanatic
10-16-2011, 09:28 PM
Not me.. But I refuse to act like an ass (again) or stop supporting my team. I'll where my Texans gear with pride & I'll be anxiously sitting in my seat wearing battle red for Jax @ home.

:texan:

However, I already posted that I expect McNair to fire Kubiak if we lose 3 in a row... he probably won't, but I can't control that.

I'm not sure I understand what you mean about "acting like an ass."

Is it acting like an ass to expect a better product?

What if the manager of a restaurant you went to kept serving you substandard food and his waiters consistently spilled warm beer in your lap every time they brought a round to your table?

Would you be acting like an ass to be hoping the owner of that restaurant woke up and fired that manager?

Scooter
10-16-2011, 09:29 PM
i'm about as homer as it gets and have made every excuse possible (most of which i still stand by), but we simply cant lose next week. losing next week would be a backbreaker and kubiak's exit. i want to lay a ton of blame on smith (deservedly because we ARENT as talented as we appear despite bumping the cap and being so young), but if we lose here, it's a reach to save the season and even i cant muster a justification of keeping kubiak.

fiasco west
10-16-2011, 09:30 PM
Yes, there will be plenty. I can probably name 10 off the top of my head.

"We can still go 12-4!"

"What about the players?"

"You can't blow up a team that's this close."

"How can you win with your top 2 player injured?"

Forget the fact that they've lost with the same 2 players for 5 years previous. Until this team is eliminated from the playoffs, we'll have sunshine pumped into the forum. I'm rolling with it. :butterfly:

I'm sure some of the people you are thinking were just more positive than you and not necessary 'sunshine pumpers' and Kubiak supporters.

I mean do you want fans to give up on the team 4-5 games into the season?

TexansFanatic
10-16-2011, 09:33 PM
I mean do you want fans to give up on the team 4-5 games into the season?

Well, technically, it would be the seventh game of the sixth season.

Not exactly a short leash.

fiasco west
10-16-2011, 09:41 PM
Well, technically, it would be the seventh game of the sixth season.

Not exactly a short leash.

Well the 7th game true. But really, I saw people jumping off the wagon when we were 2-1 and lost to the Saints and some of those things were said. Is that sunshine pumping? I think that's just a fan who realizes that there are 13 more games left.

If people are still saying that after a Titan loss I agree with you. But not after the team is 3-2 or 2-1.

As for the sixth season thing, well I don't really consider the past season until the trend pops up again. Otherwise I don't think much on it. Some coaches take a while to get this head coaching thing right, look at Belichick, going to NE his past history would have said he was going to be mediocre and he turned out being one of the best of all time.

TexansFanatic
10-16-2011, 09:46 PM
look at Belichick, going to NE his past history would have said he was going to be mediocre and he turned out being one of the best of all time.

I used to point to Belichick the same way you just did as evidence that greatness can be waiting just around the corner from disappointment and failure.

But Belichick didn't get 6 years at Cleveland and he actually had a playoff season his 4th year in Cleveland. He then brought a winner to New England in his second year there.

To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen: "I knew Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick was a friend of mine. Coach Kubiak, you're no Bill Belichick."

Surreal McCoy
10-16-2011, 09:49 PM
I honestly believe Kubiak should be fired on the spot and have his name redacted from all Texans records if they lose in Nashville next week.

Good point. Everyone loves a quitter! ;)

fiasco west
10-16-2011, 09:49 PM
I used to point to Belichick the same way you just did as evidence that greatness can be waiting just around the corner from disappointment and failure.

But Belichick didn't get 6 years at Cleveland and he actually had a playoff season his 4th year in Cleveland. He then brought a winner to New England in his second year there.

To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen: "I knew Bill Belichick. Bill Belichick was a friend of mine. Coach Kubiak, you're no Bill Belichick."

Well I didn't mean to use Belichick as a argument for keeping Kubiak. I want that to be clear.

It was more for the idea that past seasons even in a row mean a team can't break out and break a trend. Belichick made the playoffs then failed to the following year but he was still very mediocre as a coach.

But Kubiak has had way too much time here and losing to the Titans and going on the seemingly annual 4 game losing streak is more of the same.

Lucky
10-16-2011, 09:57 PM
I mean do you want fans to give up on the team 4-5 games into the season?
I'm not even sure how to respond to that. I guess my answer is, why should I care if fans "give up" or not? All I want is a winning team. I can't make that happen (contrary to the suggestion in another thread). I'm being served another crap sandwich, and I don't like it. So I criticize the chef and the owner of the restaurant. I don't see what's wrong with that.

thunderkyss
10-16-2011, 10:03 PM
What if the manager of a restaurant you went to kept serving you substandard food and his waiters consistently spilled warm beer in your lap every time they brought a round to your table?


I wouldn't tip & I'd stop going to that restaurant.

TexansFanatic
10-16-2011, 10:06 PM
i wouldn't tip & i'd stop going to that restaurant.

aha!!!

;-))

fiasco west
10-16-2011, 10:09 PM
I'm not even sure how to respond to that. I guess my answer is, why should I care if fans "give up" or not? All I want is a winning team. I can't make that happen (contrary to the suggestion in another thread). I'm being served another crap sandwich, and I don't like it. So I criticize the chef and the owner of the restaurant. I don't see what's wrong with that.

Fair enough.

I just don't see why there has to be such a division between the fans who were still hopeful of a good season a few weeks ago vs the ones who weren't so positive about it. I think if you took a poll at the end of last year most people wanted Kubiak out of here.

Surreal McCoy
10-16-2011, 10:10 PM
I wouldn't tip & I'd stop going to that restaurant.

And there you have it. But no, they keep going and then want to tell the waiter how to carry beer, the cook how to cook, and the manager what he should do to really make his establishment top flight. Yet none of them have even the remotest idea of the restaurant industry or what it takes to have a successful restaurant...but I'm sure they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Honoring Earl 34
10-16-2011, 10:13 PM
There will be some kind of positive win here if we lose next week. You can take that to the bank. It was on the road. We still have them at home. Something.

I'm sure they'll try hard and be respectfull . I bet they'll even pick up their empty juice boxes after the game .

silentassassin
10-16-2011, 10:13 PM
I'd like to think I won't accept it, but I'll probably find a way to get over it and look ahead. As for Kubiak's status, regardless of anyone feels, he's not gone until the end of the season if it falls apart this year.

TexansFanatic
10-16-2011, 10:17 PM
I'd like to think I won't accept it, but I'll probably find a way to get over it and look ahead. As for Kubiak's status, regardless of anyone feels, he's not gone until the end of the season if it falls apart this year.

Probably the response that realistically speaks for just about every Texans fan.

Norg
10-16-2011, 10:18 PM
Pfff we are not going to lose next week infact i see a 3 game win streak into the bye

6-3 Baby !!!!!!!

GP
10-16-2011, 10:21 PM
I honestly believe Kubiak should be fired on the spot and have his name redacted from all Texans records if they lose in Nashville next week.

He should be escorted to his own bus, a bus that is spray-painted and has manure spread throughout the entire cabin area. And be forced to ride all the way to Colorado where he will be dropped off at the college of his choice so he can coach kids who want to battle out there and let him (Gary) accept the blame for not gettin' it done out there.

That's what I want. In fact, I want that even if we win the game. Win-win, IMO.

TexansFanatic
10-16-2011, 10:22 PM
He should be escorted to his own bus, a bus that is spray-painted and has manure spread throughout the entire cabin area. And be forced to ride all the way to Colorado where he will be dropped off at the college of his choice so he can coach kids who want to battle out there and let him (Gary) accept the blame for not gettin' it done out there.

That's what I want. In fact, I want that even if we win the game. Win-win, IMO.

I laughed. Well done.

MEGA SWATT
10-16-2011, 10:24 PM
I'd like to think I won't accept it, but I'll probably find a way to get over it and look ahead. As for Kubiak's status, regardless of anyone feels, he's not gone until the end of the season if it falls apart this year.

I can buy that. I want to say that the Texans will take care of business without AJ or Mario and right the ship against the titans. However, these teams hate each other b/c of old Houston vs. new Houston rivalry AND the titans probably smell blood.:kitten:

False Start
10-16-2011, 10:24 PM
I honestly believe Kubiak should be fired on the spot and have his name redacted from all Texans records if they lose in Nashville next week.

http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/anyone-but-kubiak-2012.jpg

Cerberus
10-16-2011, 10:31 PM
I wouldn't tip & I'd stop going to that restaurant.

What if it was the only restaurant for 250 miles and you like restaurant food?

thunderkyss
10-16-2011, 10:42 PM
What if it was the only restaurant for 250 miles and you like restaurant food?

I'd stop bitching.

GP
10-16-2011, 10:45 PM
http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/anyone-but-kubiak-2012.jpg

God bless you for the making a signature that I think is well done.

Not sure how long I sport it, but damn if I ain't gonna' sport it just for the fact that it dove-tails with the political landscape, too.

Double Barrel
10-17-2011, 11:22 AM
And there you have it. But no, they keep going and then want to tell the waiter how to carry beer, the cook how to cook, and the manager what he should do to really make his establishment top flight. Yet none of them have even the remotest idea of the restaurant industry or what it takes to have a successful restaurant...but I'm sure they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

So, does a turd sandwich taste better if you eat it from the other end? :spin:

ThaShark316
10-17-2011, 11:27 AM
I'm done with everyone if they lose next week...

lol

burro
10-17-2011, 11:59 AM
The only question whose answer matters is "Will McNair accept a loss to the Titans next week?", the answer of course being "Yes". Unfortunate as it may be, losing streak is going to get McNair to fire Kubiak mid-season, that's just not the way Uncle Bob operates. If it were, it would have happened last season.

Dutchrudder
10-17-2011, 12:06 PM
http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/8441ff23-12ac-4fec-a9bd-efc1e8329561.jpg

:D

Wolf
10-17-2011, 12:09 PM
No way we lose next week. And if we do, I'd expect heads to roll from GM to head coaching to scouting department . But , I know they won't do anything during the season

Thorn
10-17-2011, 12:10 PM
I want Kubiak gone right now, let alone after we lose to the Titans. Wouldn't suprise me a bit if we lost to the Titans this coming weekend, and to the Jags after that. It's what this team does. Which is why it needs a new leader.

Grams
10-17-2011, 12:13 PM
I want Kubiak gone right now, let alone after we lose to the Titans. Wouldn't suprise me a bit if we lost to the Titans this coming weekend, and to the Jags after that. It's what this team does. Which is why it needs a new leader.

Me too. I would not be surprised at all if we lose to the Titans next week. The surprise would be if we won.

SAMURAITEXAN
10-17-2011, 12:17 PM
Whether we like or not, it is up to Bob. Let us just hope that we start to win many games. And, it starts from not next month, not next year but now right now!!!

Go Texans!!!

thunderkyss
10-17-2011, 12:18 PM
Whether we like or not, it is up to Bob. Let us just hope that we start to win many games. And, it starts from not next month, not next year but now right now!!!

Go Texans!!!

Hopefully they are having a "come to Jesus" meeting right now.

Hervoyel
10-17-2011, 12:18 PM
I want Kubiak gone right now, let alone after we lose to the Titans. Wouldn't suprise me a bit if we lost to the Titans this coming weekend, and to the Jags after that. It's what this team does. Which is why it needs a new leader.


Right there with you but two minor points that came to mind when I read your post.

1. "It's what this team does" implies that they're a team and I don't think that's what Kubiak has built here. The Texans unravel, they don't pull together like a team.

1. "new leader" implies we have one now. I don't think Kubiak is a leader. He's a guy who knows his x's and o's but he's not a leader. Nobody will run through a wall for him. They all like him and say the right things every year as they fold up on him but they aren't inspired by him and they don't seem to believe in him.

Vinny
10-17-2011, 12:21 PM
Hopefully they are having a "come to Jesus" meeting right now.I thought they had that last week?

Runner
10-17-2011, 12:39 PM
I thought they had that last week?

But next week is when they show what they're made of.

thunderkyss
10-17-2011, 12:39 PM
I thought they had that last week?

Until they get it right.... they need to pray as often as possible.

nflnutswife
10-17-2011, 12:40 PM
"Is anyone here going to accept a loss to the Titans and a 3-4 start?"

Anyone that knows ME, knows that I am a dieHARD fan too...
But I just had a half smoked reefer tossed at my TEXANS truck by a saints fan, he yelled something at me as he passed while laughing....THAT just PISSED me off!
If the TEXANS lose next week in Tenn. :cutthroat:

Being a heartbroke fan is getting old!!!!!!!!!!!

Jus sayin.

Vinny
10-17-2011, 12:42 PM
"Is anyone here going to accept a loss to the Titans and a 3-4 start?"

Anyone that knows ME, knows that I am a dieHARD fan too...
But I just had a half smoked reefer tossed at my TEXANS truck by a saints fan, he yelled something at me as he passed while laughing....THAT just PISSED me off!
If the TEXANS lose next week in Tenn. :cutthroat:

Being a heartbroke fan is getting old!!!!!!!!!!!

Jus sayin.
A Saints fan throwing away his pot? I bet he went and picked it back up.

Vinny
10-17-2011, 12:43 PM
Being a heartbroke fan is getting old!!!!!!!!!!!

Jus sayin.
When the Texans were born I was in my late 30's. I didn't think I'd be in my 50's before we won anything important.

Thorn
10-17-2011, 12:45 PM
Until they get it right.... they need to pray as often as possible.

I would imagine that's been going on for a number of years now, and it hasn't helped any. Perhaps we could change our team name to The Aztecs and sacrifice a live player on the 50 yard line at halfime. Once our players get the idea, and start winning, we could become true Aztecs and sacrifice the opposing teams players at halftime. :)

nflnutswife
10-17-2011, 12:46 PM
A Saints fan throwing away his pot? I bet he went and picked it back up.

It got stuck in my windshield wiper....

TexansFanatic
10-17-2011, 12:48 PM
For what it's worth, Vegas has the Titans favored by a field goal.

nflnutswife
10-17-2011, 12:49 PM
For what it's worth, Vegas has the Titans favored by a field goal.

LOL figures!

Thorn
10-17-2011, 12:50 PM
For what it's worth, Vegas has the Titans favored by a field goal.

3 points always go to the home team. That means we're even, and they think we both are so bad that we'll find a way for both teams to lose this Sunday. :lol:

Vinny
10-17-2011, 12:57 PM
For what it's worth, Vegas has the Titans favored by a field goal.

hilarious. Who'da thunk at the start of the season we would be underdogs when going to Nashvegas.

GP
10-17-2011, 01:01 PM
"Is anyone here going to accept a loss to the Titans..."

We've been accepting losses for 10 years, will not be any different if it happens again this next Sunday.

I hate to say it, but the Kubiak era is what it is: Losing more than winning.

There's enough data to make a decision on the guy, IMO. But I welcome McNair's decision on why he just has to keep us on the right track for 2012. I'm sure it will be a doozy of an explanation, for sure.

I will, as usual, "accept" that bit of bad news too.

EDIT: Isn't "acceptance" the final stage of grief? Ironic, isn't it?

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 01:02 PM
Good point. Everyone loves a quitter! ;)

Again,

Who are these real fans you keep posting about?

Are you a real Fan and what qualities does a real fan have that other people that root for the team dont have?

Are you a better fan than say Steel, She Texan, Bill, Joe Texan etc....

You and Maddict seem to be the only one capable of judging what a true fan is and if this is the case I need a set of guidelines to go by so that I can be a true fan too.

Maddict5
10-17-2011, 01:06 PM
im hoping/expecting for a win & il be pissed if we lose as its a much more winnable game than the ravens game esp if we have AJ back.

still though why is everyone acting like the titans are some garbage team that we should dominate at their field. they beat the ravens & are the same record as us coming off a bye. just sayin if we win, it'll be a good win

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 01:13 PM
And there you have it. But no, they keep going and then want to tell the waiter how to carry beer, the cook how to cook, and the manager what he should do to really make his establishment top flight. Yet none of them have even the remotest idea of the restaurant industry or what it takes to have a successful restaurant...but I'm sure they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

Depend on how you define success,

If it's making $$$$. I'm not as good as BoBBy. Jamey Rootes is a genius. IMHO

If it's putting a winning product on the field. just about any fan could do as well at running a team as BoBBy has done this decade.

Maddict5
10-17-2011, 01:13 PM
Again,

Who are these real fans you keep posting about?

Are you a real Fan and what qualities does a real fan have that other people that root for the team dont have?

Are you a better fan than say Steel, She Texan, Bill, Joe Texan etc....

You and Maddict seem to be the only one capable of judging what a true fan is and if this is the case I need a set of guidelines to go by so that I can be a true fan too.

keep me out of it pls. i never said anything to anybody individually about their fandom. i only said (since everone is so hypercritical of the owner, coaches, players, toro etc right now) maybe they should take a look at that ravens stadium yesterday to see what homefield advantage a great FANBASE can make. quite different from what y'all are arguing about

and as far as i can see, the majority of the board think they're real fans only if they give out and rant demanding change after every loss.. and anybody trying to rationalise it is a texans pr gimmick sunshiner

Honoring Earl 34
10-17-2011, 01:16 PM
Again,

Who are these real fans you keep posting about?

Are you a real Fan and what qualities does a real fan have that other people that root for the team dont have?

Are you a better fan than say Steel, She Texan, Bill, Joe Texan etc....

You and Maddict seem to be the only one capable of judging what a true fan is and if this is the case I need a set of guidelines to go by so that I can be a true fan too.

Who gives a damn what anyone thinks of your commitment . Blind fans bring you the Cubs and who wants that ?

Whether you are a so called fan or not the question is why tolerate the same old stuff . I spend quite a bit of my spare time keeping up with the Texans and I feel short changed again . It's like when the old #8 was QB , we're limited by the HC , FO , QB and it's hard to run with the big boys when your not strong at those three .

Oh well we've paddled halfway across the lake and can't turn back now . Full steam ahead Texans stroke , stroke , stroke , stroke , we're taking on water Capt. Bob . Hmmm ... better keep the same boat just patch it .

Vinny
10-17-2011, 01:17 PM
keep me out of it pls. i never said anything to anybody individually about their fandom. i only said (since everone is so hypercritical of the owner, coaches, players, toro etc right now) maybe they should take a look at that ravens stadium yesterday to see what homefield advantage a great FANBASE can make. quite different from what y'all are arguing about

and as far as i can see, the majority of the board think they're real fans only if they give out and rant demanding change after every loss.. and anybody trying to rationalise it is a texans pr gimmick sunshiner
the Ratbird fanbase didn't make any tackles. Our fanbase is just as good as the Ratbirds. I guarantee you that if they were as mediocre as long as we are, they would be pissing vinegar also.

Ryan
10-17-2011, 01:20 PM
If we lose this Sunday, someone needs to revive the Cowher signature from last season and give it an update.

TexansFanatic
10-17-2011, 01:23 PM
Isn't "acceptance" the final stage of grief? Ironic, isn't it?

Stage 1 -- Denial: "I know his overall record is 40-44, but Kubiak is a good coach! He just needs one more season to finally break through."

Stage 2 -- Anger: "Motherf#####! Why the f### does Houston always have to be the patsy in every f###### sport!"

Stage 3 -- Bargaining: "Please dear God, let McNair fire Kubiak and hire Cowher. I promise, if you make that happen, I'll never say another bad thing about the Texans and I'll stop kicking my dog during football games."

Stage 4 -- Depression: "What's the point in continuing with this? Where's that bottle of Sominex?"

Stage 5 -- Acceptance: "Hey, 8-8 may not be a winning record, but it's not a losing record either. It's all good."

HTown2ATX
10-17-2011, 01:27 PM
Stage 5 -- Acceptance: "Hey, 8-8 may not be a winning record, but it's not a losing record either. It's all good."

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/__ykb2FvxfgI/SJ0er6kEQ7I/AAAAAAAABfo/-e_LEelTcQs/s400/carebear.jpg

Runner
10-17-2011, 01:28 PM
It seems like only a couple of months ago that while the Texans were gearing up for a deep playoff run, the Titans were in complete disarray. CJ holding out, novice head coach, Dave Ragone as WR coach, no QB...the list goes on. Now the fanbase seems a little nervous about playing them for command of the division.

A loss this week is a bad loss. No spin about it.

Vinny
10-17-2011, 01:29 PM
It seems like only a couple of months ago that while the Texans were gearing up for a deep playoff run, the Titans were in complete disarray. CJ holding out, novice head coach, Dave Ragone as WR coach, no QB...the list goes on. Now the fanbase seems a little nervous about playing them for command of the division.

A loss this week is a bad loss. No spin about it.

Kubiak's 'kids' a 3 point underdog to a rebuilding Titan team with a new coach, new QB and WR1 on IR. Here is the good news though...according to many of our fanbase, the Titans shouldn't have a shot!

TEXANRED
10-17-2011, 01:29 PM
I won't accept it but hell I haven't accepted any our losses this year so what do I know.

It's just a division game. Against the Titans. How important is that?

Maddict5
10-17-2011, 01:30 PM
Our fanbase is just as good as the Ratbirds. I guarantee you that if they were as mediocre as long as we are, they would be pissing vinegar also.

hmm couple ppl have said that.... sounds alot like those excuses y'all hate so much hearing to me

if kubiak came out after yesterdays game saying:

'Our team is just as good as the Ratbirds. I guarantee you that if they were missing thir best D-lineman, they would've lost also'

you and others might have had some comments for him

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 01:31 PM
Who gives a damn what anyone thinks of your commitment . Blind fans bring you the Cubs and who wants that ?

Whether you are a so called fan or not the question is why tolerate the same old stuff . I spend quite a bit of my spare time keeping up with the Texans and I feel short changed again . It's like when the old #8 was QB , we're limited by the HC , FO , QB and it's hard to run with the big boys when your not strong at those three .

Oh well we've paddled halfway across the lake and can't turn back now . Full steam ahead Texans stroke , stroke , stroke , stroke , we're taking on water Capt. Bob . Hmmm ... better keep the same boat just patch it .

Totally agree with this post.

I was just pointing out SM's arrogance.

I truly want to know his definition of a true fan. I feel quite sure I've spent more $$$$ and time on this decade of failure than a true fan like SM.

Losing =Failure, I dont believe in failure. Wish BoBBy felt the same way.

TexansFanatic
10-17-2011, 01:32 PM
Kubiak's 'kids' a 3 point underdog to a rebuilding Titan team with a new coach, new QB and WR1 on IR.

A new coach who, by the way, never even held a coordinator position before being elevated to Top Dog.

Vinny
10-17-2011, 01:33 PM
the Ratbird fanbase didn't make any tackles. Our fanbase is just as good as the Ratbirds. I guarantee you that if they were as mediocre as long as we are, they would be pissing vinegar also.

hmm couple ppl have said that.... sounds alot like those excuses y'all hate so much hearing to me

if kubiak came out after yesterdays game saying:

'Our team is just as good as the Ratbirds. I guarantee you that if they were missing thir best D-lineman, they would've lost also'

you and others might have had some comments for him
What sounds like an excuse? I said that our fanbase is not inferior to the Ratbirds and the fans don't make any tackles. At least be coherent in your retorts.

Maddict5
10-17-2011, 01:36 PM
What sounds like an excuse? I said that our fanbase is not inferior to the Ratbirds and the fans don't make any tackles. At least be coherent in your retorts.

saying the ravens fans would be like us if they had a losing team is rationalising why they're better. funny how thats the only thing texans related you rationalise. tell the seashawks & the dolphins that homefield advantage or the fans dont make a difference

TEXANRED
10-17-2011, 01:40 PM
Totally agree with this post.

I was just pointing out SM's arrogance.

I truly want to know his definition of a true fan. I feel quite sure I've spent more $$$$ and time on this decade of failure than a true fan like SM.

Losing =Failure, I dont believe in failure. Wish BoBBy felt the same way.

A true fan is someone who never criticises their team no matter what. A true fan has zero expectations and is just glad to have the team.

Vinny
10-17-2011, 01:42 PM
saying the ravens fans would be like us if they had a losing team is rationalising why they're better. funny how thats the only thing texans related you rationalise. tell the seashawks & the dolphins that homefield advantage or the fans dont make a difference

so, you honestly think the Baltimore fans would accept a loser and wouldn't complain about a decade of no playoffs...no big wins...not beating teams with winning records? please, put down the pipe. You are making an idiotic argument.

HTown2ATX
10-17-2011, 01:44 PM
Kubiak's 'kids' a 3 point underdog to a rebuilding Titan team with a new coach, new QB and WR1 on IR. Here is the good news though...according to many of our fanbase, the Titans shouldn't have a shot!

http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/Hervoyel/TexansAnniversaryProgram.jpg

(credit to Herv)

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 01:45 PM
A true fan is someone who never criticises their team no matter what. A true fan has zero expectations and is just glad to have the team.

That's what I thought SM's definition of a true fan is.

Still waiting to here from him though. LOL

DBCooper
10-17-2011, 01:46 PM
I didn't accept the loss to the Saints.

Maddict5
10-17-2011, 01:48 PM
so, you honestly think the Baltimore fans would accept a loser and wouldn't complain about a decade of no playoffs...no big wins...not beating teams with winning records? please, put down the pipe. You are making an idiotic argument.

all im saying is if i posted 'so you honestly think if Baltimore were missing ray rice and haloti ngata, we wouldve beaten the ravens yesterday' id be called an excuse making, cheerleading sunshiner by you and others

Runner
10-17-2011, 01:53 PM
A new coach who, by the way, never even held a coordinator position before being elevated to Top Dog.

Don't forget Rags as the WR coach, a move that was panned around here.

I thought it was a good hire. Of all the players from the Capers era, he was the one that understood offense at a deep level.

Vinny
10-17-2011, 01:54 PM
all im saying is if i posted 'so you honestly think if Baltimore were missing ray rice and haloti ngata, we wouldve beaten the ravens yesterday' id be called an excuse making, cheerleading sunshiner by you and othersall these excuses are nauseating. The Ratbirds were missing Ben Grubbs Tom Zbikowski, Lee Evans, Chris Carr, and Jimmy Smith....all starters or key reserves (nick back etc.). Your arguments are weak, like your ninja skillz.

TexansFanatic
10-17-2011, 02:01 PM
Don't forget Rags as the WR coach, a move that was panned around here.

I thought it was a good hire. Of all the players from the Capers era, he was the one that understood offense at a deep level.

Somehow, the rookie head coach, Munchak, figured out how to go out and hire a solid offensive coordinator (Chris Palmer) and a solid defensive coordinator (Jerry Gray) in his very first try.

Some guys are just lucky, I guess....

thunderkyss
10-17-2011, 02:02 PM
Again,

Who are these real fans you keep posting about?

Are you a real Fan and what qualities does a real fan have that other people that root for the team dont have?

Are you a better fan than say Steel, She Texan, Bill, Joe Texan etc....

You and Maddict seem to be the only one capable of judging what a true fan is and if this is the case I need a set of guidelines to go by so that I can be a true fan too.

If you have never, never ever ever ever rooted for the Texans to lose, you're a true fan. If you were rooting for us to lose so we can draft Reggie Bush, you aren't a true fan. If you rooted for us to lose to Jacksonville last year so we could draft earlier, you aren't a true fan.

If you pull (not hope, not would prefer, not would like it) for the Texans to win every game you're a true Texans fan.... that's it.

thunderkyss
10-17-2011, 02:05 PM
the Ratbird fanbase didn't make any tackles. Our fanbase is just as good as the Ratbirds. I guarantee you that if they were as mediocre as long as we are, they would be pissing vinegar also.

Didn't take long for the Colts fans to come down to earth.

TexansFanatic
10-17-2011, 02:05 PM
If you have never, never ever ever ever rooted for the Texans to lose, you're a true fan. If you were rooting for us to lose so we can draft Reggie Bush, you aren't a true fan. If you rooted for us to lose to Jacksonville last year so we could draft earlier, you aren't a true fan.

If you pull (not hope, not would prefer, not would like it) for the Texans to win every game you're a true Texans fan.... that's it.

Yikes! I habitually root for the Texans to lose once they're mathematically eliminated from post-season play so they can get a higher pick in the draft and potentially get better more quickly than they might with a lower pick.

So far, it hasn't really worked out for us though.

I can guarantee you there are a lot of rabid Colts fans who are praying their team goes winless this season.

Errant Hothy
10-17-2011, 02:08 PM
Somehow, the rookie head coach, Munchak, figured out how to go out and hire a solid offensive coordinator (Chris Palmer) and a solid defensive coordinator (Jerry Gray) in his very first try.

Some guys are just lucky, I guess....

I'll give you Gray, but I think you are nuts if you think Palmer is a solid anything.

Vinny
10-17-2011, 02:10 PM
I'll give you Gray, but I think you are nuts if you think Palmer is a solid anything.
Palmer did a great job with E Manning. Manning hasn't played as well since. He also did a fantastic job with Mark Brunell when they went to the AFC Championship...that offense was nearly unstoppable. He had David Carr here...right?

eriadoc
10-17-2011, 02:15 PM
A true fan is someone who never criticises their team no matter what. A true fan has zero expectations and is just glad to have the team.

Well, we need to get that definition sent up to the football dictators! If this wasn''t a family message board, I'd tell you what you can do with your "true fan" definition.

Since we're making up definitions, here's mine: A true fan is one who stands by his team no matter what. That doesn't mean you don't criticize. It's kind of like your brother. You rag on your brother, you beat up on your brother, but the minute some outisder, redneck, inbred, toothless Titans fan comes in talking shit, you beat the hell out of them.

Our team may have problems, but it's OUR TEAM. A true fan is not blind, stupid, or ignorant. A true fan can discuss these problems without worrying he's going to lose his fandom. If you're so insecure in your fandom that you can't truthfully analyze things, that's your problems. We true fans will analyze and discuss anything we damn well please, and if you don't like it, go find the sunshine pollyanna message board.

TexansFanatic
10-17-2011, 02:16 PM
I'll give you Gray, but I think you are nuts if you think Palmer is a solid anything.

He washed out as a HC, no question. He didn't have much to work with in Houston and Capers meddled more than he should have.

He posted a couple of 11-5 seasons in Jacksonville as OC.

But I'll grant you that a case could be made against him.

EVOLVIST
10-17-2011, 02:31 PM
A "true fan" knows a little bit about Bucky Richardson, Billy Joe Tolliver and Cody Carlson, yet they're still addicted to Houston Football.

These "true fans" have eaten a lot of shit over a lot of years - and though they have every reason to be pissed off in 2011 - they also know it could be a lot friggin worse, y'all.

Perspective is a bad mother...(shut yo mouth!)

Vinny
10-17-2011, 02:34 PM
wanna hear something depressing? VY was 30-17 as a Titan starter. Schaub is 23-25 over the last 48 games.

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 02:39 PM
This is mydefinition of a true fan. I hate losing any game.

But this is not our team. It's BoBBy's team and that's the main reason this team has been a failure for almost a decade. Winning isn't BoBBy's #1 priority.

utahmark
10-17-2011, 02:40 PM
wanna hear something depressing? VY was 30-17 as a Titan starter. Schaub is 23-25 over the last 48 games.

Did'nt really want to hear anything else depressing but thanks anyway.

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 02:40 PM
^^^^
This

Errant Hothy
10-17-2011, 02:41 PM
Palmer did a great job with E Manning. Manning hasn't played as well since. He also did a fantastic job with Mark Brunell when they went to the AFC Championship...that offense was nearly unstoppable. He had David Carr here...right?

He washed out as a HC, no question. He didn't have much to work with in Houston and Capers meddled more than he should have.

He posted a couple of 11-5 seasons in Jacksonville as OC.

But I'll grant you that a case could be made against him.

Maybe I was tainted by his years here.

Shaft75
10-17-2011, 02:57 PM
Maybe I was tainted by his years here.

Is being "tainted" like being "t-bagged"?

DBCooper
10-17-2011, 03:00 PM
Is being "tainted" like being "t-bagged"?

Maybe even "Shaft-ed"

PHAROAH
10-17-2011, 03:00 PM
If they start out 3-4 I think they should fire Kubiak on the spot & the GM Rick Smith and allow uncle Wade Phillips coach this team and keep the offensive coordinator on board.

TEXANRED
10-17-2011, 03:08 PM
A "true fan" knows a little bit about Bucky Richardson, Billy Joe Tolliver and Cody Carlson, yet they're still addicted to Houston Football.

These "true fans" have eaten a lot of shit over a lot of years - and though they have every reason to be pissed off in 2011 - they also know it could be a lot friggin worse, y'all.

Perspective is a bad mother...(shut yo mouth!)

Bucky! Bucky! Bucky! Bucky! Bucky! Bucky! Bucky! Bucky!

Funny thing about Bucky is that he turned down the Texans when they offered him a chance to try out for the team in 02.

fiasco west
10-17-2011, 03:08 PM
If they start out 3-4 I think they should fire Kubiak on the spot & the GM Rick Smith and allow uncle Wade Phillips coach this team and keep the offensive coordinator on board.

The sad part is that Wade would be an IMPROVEMENT HC wise for the team. He's actually been to the playoffs and have coached some good teams...

I don't see it happening though. McNair always say they don't make changes until the offseason and I see no problem with doing that. If you're going to crash and burn might as well suffer through it, could use another top 15 or 10 pick...

Ckw
10-18-2011, 07:20 PM
Yep. Gary's Sunshine Kids always find the bright side of the bull's anus.

If this was a poll, I'd be the overwhelming majority would say they would not accept a loss to the Titans next week. But come next week, those excuses (along with many others) will come rising to the surface.

But, but, but, just leave Gary alone!!!!!

Got a nice negative rep from Surreal McCoy for this post. He's a real class act. Oh, and by class act, I mean ass clown.

SheTexan
10-18-2011, 08:10 PM
Of course I'm going to accept it!! If it happens, it happens, and there's not a damn thing I can do to prevent it!! If you mean will I stop being a TEXAN fan if they lose to the meatballs, then the answer is HELL NO! Will I fall apart, think the season is completely over, go drown my grief in a bottle of JACK?? The answer is still NO!! I'll be pissed off, moan and groan for a couple days, and move on to supporting our boys against the Jags! When I signed on as a fan of the HOUSTON TEXANS, I signed on for life! I don't like losing, esp to the Titans, and I'm sick and tired of this never ending losing trip we seem to be on, BUT, I will never give up on my home team! That's just the way I am!!

ATXtexanfan
10-18-2011, 08:16 PM
3-4 nothing short of devastating, especially after the pitt win and playing NO till the 4th

thunderkyss
10-18-2011, 08:20 PM
Of course I'm going to accept it!! If it happens, it happens, and there's not a damn thing I can do to prevent it!!

Oh yes there is. I borrowed an idea from the younger generation. I figured since it worked for them, it will work for us. Check out this link (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1806620#post1806620) & sign up.

TimeKiller
10-18-2011, 08:44 PM
Didn't want to start a whole thread for this but here goes-

Year (Texans record BEFORE they played the first game listed, Texans overall record that season)
Game #, Location, Opponent, Texans' Result (their record BEFORE playing the Texans, their overall record that season)

2006 (1-4, 6-10)
Game 6 vs. Jax W (3-2, 8-8)
Game 7 @ Ten L (1-5, 8-8)

2007 (3-2, 8-8)
Game 6 @ Jax L (3-1, 11-5)
Game 7 vs. Ten L (3-2, 10-6)

2008 (0-1, 8-8)
Game 2 @ Ten L (1-0, 13-3)
Game 3 @ Jax L (1-2, 5-11)

2009 (0-1, 9-7)
Game 2 @ Ten W (0-1, 8-8)
Game 3 vs. Jax L (0-2, 7-9)

2010 (4-4, 6-10)
Game 9 @ Jax L (4-4, 8-8)
Game 11 vs Ten W (5-5, 6-10)

2011 (3-3, ???)
Game 7 @ Ten ? (3-2, ???)
Game 8 vs. Jax ? (1-5, ???)

The lists represent the first match between the teams in that year, as we approach the same test again. This is a lot to take in, I know but History tell us this much: the Texans are likely to only win one of the next games, if that. So 4-4 is practically over achieving. They've yet to deal out losses to both division foes midseason under Kubiak. Never did they beat a rival that ended the season with a winning record. Only once have they beaten a rival with a winning record coming into the game (the first season under Kubiak) and that wasn't on the road. Only one win was on the road period and that win?? Last year against Tennessee, smack dab in the middle of 8 losses, to a team with a locker room in shambles and a record that still equaled the Texans. Do you even want to see this same spread with the Colts included? Ouch. But that's not quite my point...

My greater point? It's time to win this division. THIS is that mythical "next step". This is the test. Jump this hurdle and I believe the Texans make their first playoff appearance. I'll drink every color kool-aid there is if they go 2-0 these next two weeks, I'll shout it from the mountain tops with Ron Burgundy professing his love for Ms. Corningstone. I'll be Sunshine Club. I'll chop up the soap and wash my mouth out with it.

But if they lose these next two games? You can fire Kubiak before the Browns review the game tape cuz it'z ovaaaah...

What do I predict? A loss in Tennessee and a win at home vs. a really, really bad Jacksonville team. 4-4. Then another win and loss before the bye, keeping with the trend: 5-5. Then another win at Jacksonville. Between the Falcons and Bengals a win and a loss. Loss to the Panthers, gotta make a rookie QB look like Elway. Beat up a tanking Colts team to leave them at 8-7: TIED with the team they face next, the Tennessee Titans for division lead AND the playoffs. Neither will be in position for a wild card berth. Winner take all.

That's where my crystal ball ends. Sometimes it gets filled with smoke and I see them winning both these next games and remaining in first the rest of the way. And kool-aid flows from waterfalls while bunnies skip and flower sway under a bright, shining sun.... then it starts bubbling dark, thick liquid like a witch's cauldron and I see fire reigning from the sky and the dead walking and people having stupid things to say on the sports radio and Dan Dingledorf in the background laughing maniacally....

I just want bunnies. For once. Literally once because it would be a first.

ObsiWan
10-18-2011, 09:06 PM
Of course I'm going to accept it!! If it happens, it happens, and there's not a damn thing I can do to prevent it!! If you mean will I stop being a TEXAN fan if they lose to the meatballs, then the answer is HELL NO! Will I fall apart, think the season is completely over, go drown my grief in a bottle of JACK?? The answer is still NO!! I'll be pissed off, moan and groan for a couple days, and move on to supporting our boys against the Jags! When I signed on as a fan of the HOUSTON TEXANS, I signed on for life! I don't like losing, esp to the Titans, and I'm sick and tired of this never ending losing trip we seem to be on, BUT, I will never give up on my home team! That's just the way I am!!

Repped for truth.
Fact is there ain't nothing you can do but accept it. None of us, and I mean NONE, will like it. But short of scraping up 1.5 - 2.0 billion smackers and buying the team from Uncle Bob, there ain't nothing fans can do.
How's that for a depressing fact?

And, while I admire your idea TK, it'll have as much effect as the 99-percenters' protest is having on Wall Street. It will probably make the news, likely get folks arrested for tresspassing, and make us feel better, but not much else.

Now can we please have some threads that talk football. How about discussing what we actually need to do to beat the Tacks; should Wade focus on more on stopping Hasselbeck or CJ?
Should we start Tate or Foster - I ask because Tate seemed to have more success against a pretty good defense than Foster did.

...or is pure football strategy talk not allowed on a football msg board any longer?

ObsiWan
10-18-2011, 09:10 PM
Didn't want to start a whole thread for this but here goes-

Year (Texans record BEFORE they played the first game listed, Texans overall record that season)
Game #, Location, Opponent, Texans' Result (their record BEFORE playing the Texans, their overall record that season)

2006 (1-4, 6-10)
Game 6 vs. Jax W (3-2, 8-8)
Game 7 @ Ten L (1-5, 8-8)

2007 (3-2, 8-8)
Game 6 @ Jax L (3-1, 11-5)
Game 7 vs. Ten L (3-2, 10-6)

2008 (0-1, 8-8)
Game 2 @ Ten L (1-0, 13-3)
Game 3 @ Jax L (1-2, 5-11)

2009 (0-1, 9-7)
Game 2 @ Ten W (0-1, 8-8)
Game 3 vs. Jax L (0-2, 7-9)

2010 (4-4, 6-10)
Game 9 @ Jax L (4-4, 8-8)
Game 11 vs Ten W (5-5, 6-10)

2011 (3-3, ???)
Game 7 @ Ten ? (3-2, ???)
Game 8 vs. Jax ? (1-5, ???)

The lists represent the first match between the teams in that year, as we approach the same test again. This is a lot to take in, I know but History tell us this much: the Texans are likely to only win one of the next games, if that. So 4-4 is practically over achieving. They've yet to deal out losses to both division foes midseason under Kubiak. Never did they beat a rival that ended the season with a winning record. Only once have they beaten a rival with a winning record coming into the game (the first season under Kubiak) and that wasn't on the road. Only one win was on the road period and that win?? Last year against Tennessee, smack dab in the middle of 8 losses, to a team with a locker room in shambles and a record that still equaled the Texans. Do you even want to see this same spread with the Colts included? Ouch. But that's not quite my point...

My greater point? It's time to win this division. THIS is that mythical "next step". This is the test. Jump this hurdle and I believe the Texans make their first playoff appearance. I'll drink every color kool-aid there is if they go 2-0 these next two weeks, I'll shout it from the mountain tops with Ron Burgundy professing his love for Ms. Corningstone. I'll be Sunshine Club. I'll chop up the soap and wash my mouth out with it.

But if they lose these next two games? You can fire Kubiak before the Browns review the game tape cuz it'z ovaaaah...

What do I predict? A loss in Tennessee and a win at home vs. a really, really bad Jacksonville team. 4-4. Then another win and loss before the bye, keeping with the trend: 5-5. Then another win at Jacksonville. Between the Falcons and Bengals a win and a loss. Loss to the Panthers, gotta make a rookie QB look like Elway. Beat up a tanking Colts team to leave them at 8-7: TIED with the team they face next, the Tennessee Titans for division lead AND the playoffs. Neither will be in position for a wild card berth. Winner take all.

That's where my crystal ball ends. Sometimes it gets filled with smoke and I see them winning both these next games and remaining in first the rest of the way. And kool-aid flows from waterfalls while bunnies skip and flower sway under a bright, shining sun.... then it starts bubbling dark, thick liquid like a witch's cauldron and I see fire reigning from the sky and the dead walking and people having stupid things to say on the sports radio and Dan Dingledorf in the background laughing maniacally....

I just want bunnies. For once. Literally once because it would be a first.

We all want bunnies.
We all fear the possibility of fire raining from the sky.

that last paragraph was neat ...very literary.

Buffi2
10-18-2011, 09:36 PM
Should we start Tate or Foster - I ask because Tate seemed to have more success against a pretty good defense than Foster did.


I wondered why Kubiak didn't try Tate more than he did as Tate seemed to be doing a bit better. But, Kubiak has this "thing" about not making adjustments and continuing to do the same thing over and over as if he can will it to be successful. You'd think after lo these many years...........sigh.

For the record, I agree totally with SheTexan.

Having said that, if I were McNair, I'd fire Kubiak on the spot if he loses to the Titans.

mussop
10-18-2011, 09:43 PM
wanna hear something depressing? VY was 30-17 as a Titan starter. Schaub is 23-25 over the last 48 games.

I just threw up a little. :mcnugget:

mussop
10-18-2011, 09:44 PM
If they start out 3-4 I think they should fire Kubiak on the spot & the GM Rick Smith and allow uncle Wade Phillips coach this team and keep the offensive coordinator on board.

If this happens!!!!!!:voodoo:

Lucky
10-19-2011, 12:16 AM
Now can we please have some threads that talk football.

...or is pure football strategy talk not allowed on a football msg board any longer?
No one is stopping anyone from doing just that. But both you and I are posting in this thread. If you're not part of the solution...

ObsiWan
10-19-2011, 12:21 AM
No one is stopping anyone from doing just that. But both you and I are posting in this thread. If you're not part of the solution...

Well at least Buffi talked some football with me.
:D

House of Pain
10-19-2011, 04:50 AM
Of course I'm going to accept it!! If it happens, it happens, and there's not a damn thing I can do to prevent it!! If you mean will I stop being a TEXAN fan if they lose to the meatballs, then the answer is HELL NO! Will I fall apart, think the season is completely over, go drown my grief in a bottle of JACK?? The answer is still NO!! I'll be pissed off, moan and groan for a couple days, and move on to supporting our boys against the Jags! When I signed on as a fan of the HOUSTON TEXANS, I signed on for life! I don't like losing, esp to the Titans, and I'm sick and tired of this never ending losing trip we seem to be on, BUT, I will never give up on my home team! That's just the way I am!!

You said it. I didn't pick this team, it chose me. Long live Houston! Long live the Texans! (even if they drive me insane)

House of Pain
10-19-2011, 04:53 AM
Didn't want to start a whole thread for this but here goes-

Year (Texans record BEFORE they played the first game listed, Texans overall record that season)
Game #, Location, Opponent, Texans' Result (their record BEFORE playing the Texans, their overall record that season)

2006 (1-4, 6-10)
Game 6 vs. Jax W (3-2, 8-8)
Game 7 @ Ten L (1-5, 8-8)

2007 (3-2, 8-8)
Game 6 @ Jax L (3-1, 11-5)
Game 7 vs. Ten L (3-2, 10-6)

2008 (0-1, 8-8)
Game 2 @ Ten L (1-0, 13-3)
Game 3 @ Jax L (1-2, 5-11)

2009 (0-1, 9-7)
Game 2 @ Ten W (0-1, 8-8)
Game 3 vs. Jax L (0-2, 7-9)

2010 (4-4, 6-10)
Game 9 @ Jax L (4-4, 8-8)
Game 11 vs Ten W (5-5, 6-10)

2011 (3-3, ???)
Game 7 @ Ten ? (3-2, ???)
Game 8 vs. Jax ? (1-5, ???)

The lists represent the first match between the teams in that year, as we approach the same test again. This is a lot to take in, I know but History tell us this much: the Texans are likely to only win one of the next games, if that. So 4-4 is practically over achieving. They've yet to deal out losses to both division foes midseason under Kubiak. Never did they beat a rival that ended the season with a winning record. Only once have they beaten a rival with a winning record coming into the game (the first season under Kubiak) and that wasn't on the road. Only one win was on the road period and that win?? Last year against Tennessee, smack dab in the middle of 8 losses, to a team with a locker room in shambles and a record that still equaled the Texans. Do you even want to see this same spread with the Colts included? Ouch. But that's not quite my point...

My greater point? It's time to win this division. THIS is that mythical "next step". This is the test. Jump this hurdle and I believe the Texans make their first playoff appearance. I'll drink every color kool-aid there is if they go 2-0 these next two weeks, I'll shout it from the mountain tops with Ron Burgundy professing his love for Ms. Corningstone. I'll be Sunshine Club. I'll chop up the soap and wash my mouth out with it.

But if they lose these next two games? You can fire Kubiak before the Browns review the game tape cuz it'z ovaaaah...

What do I predict? A loss in Tennessee and a win at home vs. a really, really bad Jacksonville team. 4-4. Then another win and loss before the bye, keeping with the trend: 5-5. Then another win at Jacksonville. Between the Falcons and Bengals a win and a loss. Loss to the Panthers, gotta make a rookie QB look like Elway. Beat up a tanking Colts team to leave them at 8-7: TIED with the team they face next, the Tennessee Titans for division lead AND the playoffs. Neither will be in position for a wild card berth. Winner take all.

That's where my crystal ball ends. Sometimes it gets filled with smoke and I see them winning both these next games and remaining in first the rest of the way. And kool-aid flows from waterfalls while bunnies skip and flower sway under a bright, shining sun.... then it starts bubbling dark, thick liquid like a witch's cauldron and I see fire reigning from the sky and the dead walking and people having stupid things to say on the sports radio and Dan Dingledorf in the background laughing maniacally....

I just want bunnies. For once. Literally once because it would be a first.

"So you're telling me there's a chance..."

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drunkcookie
10-19-2011, 08:04 AM
What does it matter if I accept the loss or not? I can't go into that locker room and roll heads post-loss...

Fact for me is, I've got a lotttt of things I enjoy doing and just as many things on my plate, and though the Texans are my team and I celebrate the wins and am sad in defeat right along with them, I can't sit there and dwell in a team of millionares losing a game and be angry and talk about how I'm not gunna take it/accept it/whatever...