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badboy
10-16-2011, 04:28 PM
Wonder if Foster will catch the same criticism that Vickers did for dropping a pass in his hands? I somehow doubt it. Vicker's should have been a TD and Foster's a long gain for a first.

aussie_texan
10-16-2011, 04:40 PM
as much as a long gain for the first is important it happened it the 1st half.

vickers drops a catch for a go ahead lead in the 4th and a more then likely win.

theres a bit of a difference imo

kiwitexansfan
10-16-2011, 04:42 PM
Also we have a track record with Foster that says he makes plays and is worth his while.

Vickers has done just about nothing here except drop a really important ball.

History influences perception.

Ranger Tom
10-16-2011, 04:44 PM
Agreed; Foster's drop was bad, but Vickers' was decisive. The look on Vickers' face after the play says it all.

SheTexan
10-16-2011, 05:06 PM
Now tell me again why we don't miss Vonte?????

jtexas
10-16-2011, 05:08 PM
Wonder if Foster will catch the same criticism that Vickers did for dropping a pass in his hands? I somehow doubt it. Vicker's should have been a TD and Foster's a long gain for a first.

No way. Vickers cost us a 4th quarter TD. He will hear about that for the next 40 years.

Ckw
10-16-2011, 05:08 PM
This was just dumb. Why would you even post a thread like this, badboy? I understand you like Vickers but expecting him to get a free pass from the fans the same way one of the best running backs in the league does is ridiculous.

Foster has proven his worth time and time again. Vickers has done nothing and has even been a little bit of a letdown at what he supposedly does well: blocking. He deserved every bit of the bashing he got last week for essentially costing us the game.

Not a dumb poster, but this is a dumb thread.

DexmanC
10-16-2011, 05:14 PM
Also we have a track record with Foster that says he makes plays and is worth his while.

Vickers has done just about nothing here except drop a really important ball.

History influences perception.

Right. Just like people will tolerate a loss from Belichick, but not from Kubiak.

cdollaz
10-16-2011, 05:28 PM
A play never should have been called for Vickers. That is just stupid coaching.

Shaft75
10-16-2011, 05:35 PM
Thanks badboy... He would have caught that if this thread didn't exist!

Farough
10-16-2011, 05:42 PM
With the way it should have worked it was a great play call. The FB was open and he just couldn't hang on to it. Kubiak can only do so much and going out and catching the ball out of the backfield is not one of those things.

badboy
10-16-2011, 05:43 PM
This was just dumb. Why would you even post a thread like this, badboy? I understand you like Vickers but expecting him to get a free pass from the fans the same way one of the best running backs in the league does is ridiculous.

Foster has proven his worth time and time again. Vickers has done nothing and has even been a little bit of a letdown at what he supposedly does well: blocking. He deserved every bit of the bashing he got last week for essentially costing us the game.

Not a dumb poster, but this is a dumb thread.FInd one post saying I like Vickers. I posted the thread to see if folks thought Arian should catch flak for doing the exact same thing, dropping a pass. Yes, the result would have had different impact; one a TD versus a first down. Sure AJ, Arian and OD will get some leeway because of their known play. SHouldn't Foster catch some criticism? Don't you expect more from your better players?
I agree that Vickers deserved all he got and I was pretty PO myself. But you are saying Arian gets no criticism?

Trying to get a read on how fans think and now I know how you think.

cdollaz
10-16-2011, 06:00 PM
With the way it should have worked it was a great play call. The FB was open and he just couldn't hang on to it. Kubiak can only do so much and going out and catching the ball out of the backfield is not one of those things.

If he wants to risk putting an essential play into the hands of someone that is known to not have good hands, and hadn't caught a ball the whole year, then so be it. I happen to think it is really stupid.

Carr Bombed
10-16-2011, 06:01 PM
Wonder if Foster will catch the same criticism that Vickers did for dropping a pass in his hands? I somehow doubt it. Vicker's should have been a TD and Foster's a long gain for a first.

Would you bash Andre if he had a rough day? Of coarse you wouldn't.

ATXtexanfan
10-16-2011, 06:08 PM
arian had a bad day, no excuses though. this outfit is done.

The Cush
10-16-2011, 06:13 PM
Nobody gets a free pass, Foster had a number of crucial drops and deserves criticism for that but his value to this team is unquestioned. He didn't play up to his standard today and he himself knows it. He'll bounce back and we need him to

ATXtexanfan
10-16-2011, 06:14 PM
Nobody gets a free pass, Foster had a number of crucial drops and deserves criticism for that but his value to this team is unquestioned. He didn't play up to his standard today and he himself knows it. He'll bounce back and we need him to

when ths staff gets blowed up and the ZBS scheme is gone how valuable is he?

The Cush
10-16-2011, 06:17 PM
when ths staff gets blowed up and the ZBS scheme is gone how valuable is he?

He can play in any system and is one of the best backs catching the ball out of the backfield and in open space. So extremely valuable

Scooter
10-16-2011, 06:18 PM
i've got no problem blasting foster same as vickers. it's a different game without foster's 3 drops, possibly one that we win. just like last week the lost cant be pinned on one player, but those drops were certainly a factor.

playa465
10-16-2011, 06:28 PM
FInd one post saying I like Vickers. I posted the thread to see if folks thought Arian should catch flak for doing the exact same thing, dropping a pass. Yes, the result would have had different impact; one a TD versus a first down. Sure AJ, Arian and OD will get some leeway because of their known play. SHouldn't Foster catch some criticism? Don't you expect more from your better players?
I agree that Vickers deserved all he got and I was pretty PO myself. But you are saying Arian gets no criticism?

Trying to get a read on how fans think and now I know how you think.

I get ur point and I think Foster should get flak...Vickers is not a key player (even though the outcome of his drop was in a more crucial moment). Foster we expect and demand more from him because he is a vital player and a good one. His drops today do not give him a pass...they are both professionals and should bear responsibility

badboy
10-16-2011, 06:28 PM
Would you bash Andre if he had a rough day? Of coarse you wouldn't.CB comeon, you have been on MB long enough to know my history of saying what I think and also saying controversial things to draw others into dialogue. Three years ago I started a thread about trading AJ not because I disliked him but giving him to chance to play for a SB and getting something in return for him. I pointed out some things as I saw that he could do better. He is a champion but I tell it like I think it is. Just for the record, I am not bashing Foster, I was pulling for him when we signed him as he filled my need for a big fast back.

Just a note here that we have used up Johnson and neither he nor team have much to show for it.

SheTexan
10-16-2011, 06:33 PM
i've got no problem blasting foster same as vickers. it's a different game without foster's 3 drops, possibly one that we win. just like last week the lost cant be pinned on one player, but those drops were certainly a factor.

Foster didn't drop one of those balls. Credit goes to Bernard Pollard for stripping it out of his hands.

rush2112mn
10-16-2011, 07:21 PM
All I know is Tate looked better than Foster today....Foster looked slow and hit holes slow.....getting 2 yards on carry does not help...puts us in 2nd and long...just seemed like he was out of sorts......