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steelbtexan
10-13-2011, 06:22 PM
Rd.1 David DeCastro, Stanford- OG 6'5 310 LBS 5.1, DeCastro is a big nasty intelligent mobile OG. He's a mauler who is mobile enough to play in a ZBS or strong enough to play in a power scheme. Best interior OL in draft. IMHO. 10 yr starter.

Rd.2 Dwight Jones, North Carolina- WR 6'4 225 LBS 4.53, Big athletic playmaker. Runs excellent routes, creates speparation, willing blocker. Jones is immediately the best #2 WR in Texans history. Best of all he appears to be the anti Jacoby Jones in terms of work ethic.

Rd.3 Brandon Boykin, Georgia -CB 5'10 183 LBS 4.4, Boykin is a pure cover CB who has great speed and instincts. Although he's small hes a willing tackler who is a top notch KR/PR. (Bye Bye Jacoby) He was suspended with a teammate is the only reason Boykin falls this far. (I think DUI)

Rd.4 Hebron (Loni) Fangupo, BYU- DT 6'2 330 LBS 5.1, Fangupo is the big strong run stopping NT this team has been needing for yrs. USC transfer due to probation. Fangupo was the strongest player on the team according to the HC. He also is very agile. He was dominant against the run against UT earlier this yr. Trading up as high as the 2nd rd to get Fangupo would be an option for me.

Rd.5 AJ Jenkins, Illinois- WR 6'0 190 4.3, Jenkins intrigues me as a project size sped guy whose best yrs may be ahead of him, fairly polished under Ron Zook, led the team in catches 56 yds 746, tds 7. Jenkins also KR for the Illini. (Did I mention I would like to see the failed Jacoby experiment come to an end.)

Rd.6 J.R. Sweezy, North Carolina St.- DE 6'5 293 LBS 4.95, Sweezy is an athletic team captian who only lasted this long because he broke his foot this yr. He's a project but he has the god given talent. I took a flier on him this late and am hopeful that he can provide depth at the DE spot. (replaces Bulman)

Rd.7 Traded for Mason, D**n you Jacoby. LOL

I put quite a bit of time into this and would love as much feedback as possible. Thanks

bah007
10-13-2011, 07:09 PM
1. DeCastro - Love it. Totally agree, best interior OL in the draft.

2. Jones - Love it. One of my guys to watch this year. Prob my favorite WR in this class outside of the sure first rounders.

3. Boykin - Not very high on him as a CB, he has definitely had his problems covering the elite guys. Special player with the ball in his hands though. I would probably go a different direction.

4. Fangupo - Best you're gonna get at NT this late in the draft.

5. Jenkins - Love this pick too. I'm not against taking two WRs in this draft as long as one of them can return kicks, Jenkins can.

6. Johnson - Wasted pick in my opinion. Johnson doesn't block well enough to play FB in the NFL. He's just a big, slow, HB.

SteveSlaton20
10-13-2011, 08:39 PM
I'm a Texas fan I don't really like CJ that much. He dances too much, and has a terrible vision. Unless your oline wins the battle on 3rd/4th and short, he's not gonna get it.

I think we should go after a WR in the first, trade our '12 and '12 first rounders for a top 10 pick for Alshon Jeffery. IMO he's a shorter and a little slower Calvin Johnson. This guy catches everything thrown his way, and he had a terrible QB in Garica. How amazing would it be to have Andre Johnson and a clone Calvin Johnson on the same field?

steelbtexan
10-13-2011, 10:07 PM
I'm a Texas fan I don't really like CJ that much. He dances too much, and has a terrible vision. Unless your oline wins the battle on 3rd/4th and short, he's not gonna get it.

I think we should go after a WR in the first, trade our '12 and '12 first rounders for a top 10 pick for Alshon Jeffery. IMO he's a shorter and a little slower Calvin Johnson. This guy catches everything thrown his way, and he had a terrible QB in Garica. How amazing would it be to have Andre Johnson and a clone Calvin Johnson on the same field?

OK

I will revise the mock a little (Cross Cody Johnson off the board) I wasn't really sold on him anyway.

Lets add some depth at DE. J.R. Sweezy DE N.C. State.

I would be on board with trading up and picking Jeffery. He's a rare talent and could help the team at WR2 while learning his craft under AJ and eventually move into the WR1 spot. Jeffery has future pro bowl ability. The way I see it is playmakers win games. If you get a chance to get a playmaker you do it. Jeffery is this kind of player. IMHO

badboy
10-13-2011, 10:57 PM
Rd.1 David DeCastro, Stanford- OG 6'5 310 LBS 5.1, DeCastro is a big nasty intelligent mobile OG. He's a mauler who is mobile enough to play in a ZBS or strong enough to play in a power scheme. Best interior OL in draft. IMHO. 10 yr starter.

Rd.2 Dwight Jones, North Carolina- WR 6'4 225 LBS 4.53, Big athletic playmaker. Runs excellent routes, creates speparation, willing blocker. Jones is immediately the best #2 WR in Texans history. Best of all he appears to be the anti Jacoby Jones in terms of work ethic.

Rd.3 Brandon Boykin, Georgia -CB 5'10 183 LBS 4.4, Boykin is a pure cover CB who has great speed and instincts. Although he's small hes a willing tackler who is a top notch KR/PR. (Bye Bye Jacoby) He was suspended with a teammate is the only reason Boykin falls this far. (I think DUI)

Rd.4 Hebron (Loni) Fangupo, BYU- DT 6'2 330 LBS 5.1, Fangupo is the big strong run stopping NT this team has been needing for yrs. USC transfer due to probation. Fangupo was the strongest player on the team according to the HC. He also is very agile. He was dominant against the run against UT earlier this yr. Trading up as high as the 2nd rd to get Fangupo would be an option for me.

Rd.5 AJ Jenkins, Illinois- WR 6'0 190 4.3, Jenkins intrigues me as a project size sped guy whose best yrs may be ahead of him, fairly polished under Ron Zook, led the team in catches 56 yds 746, tds 7. Jenkins also KR for the Illini. (Did I mention I would like to see the failed Jacoby experiment come to an end.)

Rd.6 J.R. Sweezy, North Carolina St.- DE 6'5 293 LBS 4.95, Sweezy is an athletic team captian who only lasted this long because he broke his foot this yr. He's a project but he has the god given talent. I took a flier on him this late and am hopeful that he can provide depth at the DE spot. (replaces Bulman)

Rd.7 Traded for Mason, D**n you Jacoby. LOL

I put quite a bit of time into this and would love as much feedback as possible. ThanksOG not my first round choice but would not scream against it as we do need a replacement.

Jones is a good pick and should be avail.

Boykins will not be drafted by Texans due to history. I think Floyd falls into this category also.

Fangupo not much available about him but does he ever remain anywhere long? Never watched him pay but will try to. I like Poe.

steelbtexan
10-13-2011, 11:36 PM
OG not my first round choice but would not scream against it as we do need a replacement.

Jones is a good pick and should be avail.

Boykins will not be drafted by Texans due to history. I think Floyd falls into this category also.

Fangupo not much available about him but does he ever remain anywhere long? Never watched him pay but will try to. I like Poe.

I know Boykins got suspended for 2 games. What was he suspended for?

I 1st saw Fangupo play against Texas. He was impressive. He's a family man who has adjusted well yo going to BYU.

He started out in JC. (Alot of guys do) He must have talent USC signed him. He tranfered after USC was put on probation. (Cant blame him) So although he has been to 3 schools circumstances dictated it. Check him out I think you will like what you see.

beerlover
10-14-2011, 12:03 AM
I would think whoever drafts Luck will have their eye on one of his OL for protection, might be a trade down opportunity?

Lets just pencil in a WR 2nd rd. I would want someone already polished & ready to start.

Something keeps me from wanting to draft another CB this high? This would be excellent value here to find a replacement @ RG. Again someone polished, physical, smart & ready to start.

Don't know much about Hebron (Loni) Fangupo, BYU- DT 6'2 330 but sounds like an excellent situational NG prospect.

AJ Jenkins, Illinois is someone I could go for to fill slot receiver. like his production, a poor man Broyles if you will so if its possible get a bigger WR in 1st/2nd.

J.R. Sweezy, North Carolina St.- DE 6'5 293 nice size for a 3-4 DE. Certainly need more 5 tech talent to develop for depth purposes.

Nice effort big guy :)

Wolf6151
10-14-2011, 01:18 AM
1. DeCastro, I really like the player and think that he'd be a big asset to the team but not the position that I would have chosen. I'd go for a CB if one of the good ones is still available.
2. Jones, I love this pick though it may take some luck cause he could also go late 1st round or early 2nd.
3. Boykin, he's a little above average for a CB but nothing special and we've got enough mid round CB's. I'd move NT up to here.
4. Fangupo, I don't know anything about him but he sounds good.
5. Jenkins, I don't know anything about him either but some added depth at WR can't be bad.
6. Sweezy, see Jenkins.

steelbtexan
10-14-2011, 03:22 PM
I would think whoever drafts Luck will have their eye on one of his OL for protection, might be a trade down opportunity?

Lets just pencil in a WR 2nd rd. I would want someone already polished & ready to start.

Something keeps me from wanting to draft another CB this high? This would be excellent value here to find a replacement @ RG. Again someone polished, physical, smart & ready to start.

Don't know much about Hebron (Loni) Fangupo, BYU- DT 6'2 330 but sounds like an excellent situational NG prospect.

AJ Jenkins, Illinois is someone I could go for to fill slot receiver. like his production, a poor man Broyles if you will so if its possible get a bigger WR in 1st/2nd.

J.R. Sweezy, North Carolina St.- DE 6'5 293 nice size for a 3-4 DE. Certainly need more 5 tech talent to develop for depth purposes.

Nice effort big guy :)

Love your trade down scenario.

Thanks for the compliment, Keep an eye on Fangupo, I might even move him ahead of Boykins into the 3rd rd.

steelbtexan
10-14-2011, 03:29 PM
1. DeCastro, I really like the player and think that he'd be a big asset to the team but not the position that I would have chosen. I'd go for a CB if one of the good ones is still available.
2. Jones, I love this pick though it may take some luck cause he could also go late 1st round or early 2nd.
3. Boykin, he's a little above average for a CB but nothing special and we've got enough mid round CB's. I'd move NT up to here.
4. Fangupo, I don't know anything about him but he sounds good.
5. Jenkins, I don't know anything about him either but some added depth at WR can't be bad.
6. Sweezy, see Jenkins.

What makes Boykin different than all of the other mid rd CB's the Texans have taken is that he is a dynamic KR/PR. You can finally get rid of Jacoby and if Boykins turns into an upgrade at CB2 you're ahead of the game. He certianly has the speed and athletic ability to become a fine CB2.

Boykins reminds me of DeAngelo Hall, the way he plays and how he's built. Along with a cocky streak that is necessary to be a starting CB in the NFL.

76Texan
10-14-2011, 09:49 PM
1. DeCastro - Love it. Totally agree, best interior OL in the draft.

2. Jones - Love it. One of my guys to watch this year. Prob my favorite WR in this class outside of the sure first rounders.


These two guys are also on my radar; too early (for me, since I don't normally get heavily into the college games until at least the halfway mark.)

Couple of guys on the O-line I also want to keep track on are from the Wisconsin Badgers interior.


Same team sports a WR, Nick Toons, another NFL blood line.

I noticed these guys when I watched Camiri and Graham.

steelbtexan
10-14-2011, 10:21 PM
These two guys are also on my radar; too early (for me, since I don't normally get heavily into the college games until at least the halfway mark.)

Couple of guys on the O-line I also want to keep track on are from the Wisconsin Badgers interior.


Same team sports a WR, Nick Toons, another NFL blood line.

I noticed these guys when I watched Camiri and Graham.

I watched them dominate the Cornhuskers. You cant go wrong drafting a Badger OL.

bah007
10-17-2011, 06:06 AM
What makes Boykin different than all of the other mid rd CB's the Texans have taken is that he is a dynamic KR/PR. You can finally get rid of Jacoby and if Boykins turns into an upgrade at CB2 you're ahead of the game. He certianly has the speed and athletic ability to become a fine CB2.

Boykins reminds me of DeAngelo Hall, the way he plays and how he's built. Along with a cocky streak that is necessary to be a starting CB in the NFL.

I wouldn't consider that a good thing.

I'm a former CB, and we have a nickname for guys like Hall. He is a merc, or mercenary. All he cares about is INTs. He has no interest in tackling or actually covering anyone. And for every INT he gets by successfully baiting the QB, he gives up about 3 touchdowns.

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 07:41 AM
I wouldn't consider that a good thing.

I'm a former CB, and we have a nickname for guys like Hall. He is a merc, or mercenary. All he cares about is INTs. He has no interest in tackling or actually covering anyone. And for every INT he gets by successfully baiting the QB, he gives up about 3 touchdowns.

This yr he's not that bad.

It even appears that Hall is willin to tackle this yr. Unlike previous yrs.

The reason I like Boykin is he's a great KR/PR. Even if he fails at CB he still can add value on ST's.

Boykin's an above average cover CB (really fast) because of his lack of size he struggles to set the edge against the run. But I would settle for that after watching KJ set the edge well for 2 yrs. But fall down/cant cover UDFA WR's.

bah007
10-17-2011, 08:45 AM
This yr he's not that bad.

It even appears that Hall is willin to tackle this yr. Unlike previous yrs.

The reason I like Boykin is he's a great KR/PR. Even if he fails at CB he still can add value on ST's.

Boykin's an above average cover CB (really fast) because of his lack of size he struggles to set the edge against the run. But I would settle for that after watching KJ set the edge well for 2 yrs. But fall down/cant cover UDFA WR's.

I like Boykin for the same reason. I just wouldn't compare him to Hall.

Still, I don't know if Boykin would be an upgrade over anything we currently have at CB. If we took him, I think he would wind up strictly as a returner.

Dutchrudder
10-17-2011, 09:24 AM
I like Boykin for the same reason. I just wouldn't compare him to Hall.

Still, I don't know if Boykin would be an upgrade over anything we currently have at CB. If we took him, I think he would wind up strictly as a returner.

Couldn't he become the nickel CB? Allen is a free agent this year, and if he isn't re-signed, Kjax becomes the default #2 CB. I guess Harris would be the nickel CB in that case, but we haven't seen him much. I think a 3rd is too high for that sort of player, but if he could be had for a 5th, I think that would turn out to be a worthy pick.

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 09:36 AM
Couldn't he become the nickel CB? Allen is a free agent this year, and if he isn't re-signed, Kjax becomes the default #2 CB. I guess Harris would be the nickel CB in that case, but we haven't seen him much. I think a 3rd is too high for that sort of player, but if he could be had for a 5th, I think that would turn out to be a worthy pick.

Agreed

Boykins is a 4th/5th rd CB. (McCain type)

The KR/PR moves him up to the 3rd. He's a really good KR/PR. Better than Jacoby and I consider Jacoby to be an above average PR.

leebigeztx
10-17-2011, 10:08 AM
What if the texans make the playoffs at 10-6 and rg3 is sitting there starring you in the face? Or what if geno smith comes out?

bah007
10-17-2011, 12:42 PM
What if the texans make the playoffs at 10-6 and rg3 is sitting there starring you in the face? Or what if geno smith comes out?

Griffin? Take him.

Smith? No thanks.

Smith is a very solid college player, but I don't think he has anywhere near the talent that Griffin does.

bah007
10-17-2011, 12:44 PM
Couldn't he become the nickel CB? Allen is a free agent this year, and if he isn't re-signed, Kjax becomes the default #2 CB. I guess Harris would be the nickel CB in that case, but we haven't seen him much. I think a 3rd is too high for that sort of player, but if he could be had for a 5th, I think that would turn out to be a worthy pick.

I'm still clutching to hope that Harris can develop into a #2 and then Jackson can play the nickel.

Steelb is right. Boykin is a 5th round CB talent. But he is a playmaker with the ball in his hands, and that pushes him up.

beerlover
10-17-2011, 12:56 PM
I'm still clutching to hope that Harris can develop into a #2 and then Jackson can play the nickel.

Steelb is right. Boykin is a 5th round CB talent. But he is a playmaker with the ball in his hands, and that pushes him up.

I don't know Status of Harris? clearly Texans still need secondary help, yet he has only seen the field in very limited action. So banking on him is simply too risky given the fact CB2 is ripped apart every weekend helping the opponents offense to beat an otherwise much improved defense & scheme. If I had to pin point the single biggest hole on this team as of right now it is still CB2. Worthy of another first round pick if the playmaker they need is available. eventually they will get it right & we can laugh about it over a cold one :toast2:

bah007
10-17-2011, 03:45 PM
I don't know Status of Harris? clearly Texans still need secondary help, yet he has only seen the field in very limited action. So banking on him is simply too risky given the fact CB2 is ripped apart every weekend helping the opponents offense to beat an otherwise much improved defense & scheme. If I had to pin point the single biggest hole on this team as of right now it is still CB2. Worthy of another first round pick if the playmaker they need is available. eventually they will get it right & we can laugh about it over a cold one :toast2:

I'm with you, BL. It's not just our biggest hole, it's a black hole. At this point, Allen and Jackson have got to be giving up nearly ten first downs a game just by themselves.

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 04:52 PM
Addressing CB2 in FA would be the way I would go.

Letting MW walk would mean you could sign impact players at CB2 and WR2. Somebody like WR2 Bowe and a vet lesser CB2 like Carlos Rodgers. With the MW savings.

Draft a NT and your defense is complete. This is after seeing how Reed and Barwin do at OLB in their 11 game tryout.

Dutchrudder
10-17-2011, 05:06 PM
Addressing CB2 in FA would be the way I would go.

Letting MW walk would mean you could sign impact players at CB2 and WR2. Somebody like WR2 Bowe and a vet lesser CB2 like Carlos Rodgers. With the MW savings.

Draft a NT and your defense is complete. This is after seeing how Reed and Barwin do at OLB in their 11 game tryout.

Bowe ought to be highly sought after this Free agency period. There are a lot of big name WR free agents that have expiring contracts next year, so the market will be competitive. Check out this list of the best WRs for the 2012 class:

Steve Johnson – BUF
Brandon Lloyd – DEN
Reggie Wayne – IND
Pierre Garcon – IND
Dwayne Bowe - KC
Wes Welker – NE
Marques Colston - NO
Mario Manningham - NYG
DeSean Jackson – PHI
Mike Wallace – PIT (Restricted)
Vincent Jackson – SD
Jordy Nelson - GB

Granted several of these guys are bound to get F-taged, but I think a 27 year old Bowe will be looking for a big pay-day from a WR-starved team like the Rams, Bears, Chiefs or Seahawks. But the one thing that is comforting is that the Texans may be able to snag a good WR as a #2. With guys like this on the move, the Texans are bound to grab a decent WR in the mixup after they cut Jacoby, but it may require letting Mario Williams go in the process.

Wolf6151
10-17-2011, 05:12 PM
Addressing CB2 in FA would be the way I would go.

Letting MW walk would mean you could sign impact players at CB2 and WR2. Somebody like WR2 Bowe and a vet lesser CB2 like Carlos Rodgers. With the MW savings.

Draft a NT and your defense is complete. This is after seeing how Reed and Barwin do at OLB in their 11 game tryout.

I like your way of thinking, letting MW walk provided Reed and Barwin play well the rest of the season which I expect they will, but I have my doubts that the Texans will go that route. I think McNair likes MW too much to let him go and looks at MW as the face of the franchise and great for marketing and jersey sales. Before the injury I expected the Texans to use the franchise tag on MW for next year, now after the injury I expect them to do it even more since they'll want to see what he's like next season without going all in on another contract. Letting MW walk is the only way we've got any money to spend in FA though with he and Foster both in FA after this season. Draft a NT in the 1st and a WR in the 2nd and use the money saved on a CB2, if we let MW walk.

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 05:57 PM
I like your way of thinking, letting MW walk provided Reed and Barwin play well the rest of the season which I expect they will, but I have my doubts that the Texans will go that route. I think McNair likes MW too much to let him go and looks at MW as the face of the franchise and great for marketing and jersey sales. Before the injury I expected the Texans to use the franchise tag on MW for next year, now after the injury I expect them to do it even more since they'll want to see what he's like next season without going all in on another contract. Letting MW walk is the only way we've got any money to spend in FA though with he and Foster both in FA after this season. Draft a NT in the 1st and a WR in the 2nd and use the money saved on a CB2, if we let MW walk.

Franchising and trading MW for a 1st and hopefully a 3rd would be the way to get maximum value for MW. That way you get the $$$$ saved for FA (BoB wont spend all of it and will put some of it in his pocket, think Dunta situation) and the draft picks.

A team with a solid talent base like GB, Pitts, N.E. would be hot for MW and might even give up an established WR and the picks for MW. They have the cap room and talent to do a deal like this.

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 06:05 PM
Bowe ought to be highly sought after this Free agency period. There are a lot of big name WR free agents that have expiring contracts next year, so the market will be competitive. Check out this list of the best WRs for the 2012 class:

Steve Johnson BUF
Brandon Lloyd DEN
Reggie Wayne IND
Pierre Garcon IND
Dwayne Bowe - KC
Wes Welker NE
Marques Colston - NO
Mario Manningham - NYG
DeSean Jackson PHI
Mike Wallace PIT (Restricted)
Vincent Jackson SD
Jordy Nelson - GB

Granted several of these guys are bound to get F-taged, but I think a 27 year old Bowe will be looking for a big pay-day from a WR-starved team like the Rams, Bears, Chiefs or Seahawks. But the one thing that is comforting is that the Texans may be able to snag a good WR as a #2. With guys like this on the move, the Texans are bound to grab a decent WR in the mixup after they cut Jacoby, but it may require letting Mario Williams go in the process.

Nelson re-signed with G.B.

Out of those WR's the ones most likely to be let walk are Johnson,Bowe,D.Jackson and V.Jackson.

Which one do you think would be the easiest to obtain? Which one would be the one that you would sign. Johnson/Bowe and D.Jackson in that order would be my choices.

Dutchrudder
10-17-2011, 06:25 PM
Nelson re-signed with G.B.

Out of those WR's the ones most likely to be let walk are Johnson,Bowe,D.Jackson and V.Jackson.

Which one do you think would be the easiest to obtain? Which one would be the one that you would sign. Johnson/Bowe and D.Jackson in that order would be my choices.

Steve Johnson – BUF
Brandon Lloyd – DEN
Reggie Wayne – IND
Pierre Garcon – IND
Dwayne Bowe - KC
Wes Welker – NE
Marques Colston - NO
Mario Manningham - NYG
DeSean Jackson – PHI
Mike Wallace – PIT (Restricted)
Vincent Jackson – SD

Easiest to sign IMO: Lloyd, Garcon, Manningham, Colston, Johnson, Wayne.

Only Lloyd, Garcon and Manningham will be cheap though, the rest ought to command considerable money. I expect Bowe, both Jacksons, Wallace and Welker to all be worth at least 7-10 million base salary per year. Likely too pricey for the Texans without letting go of MW or Foster.

I don't think the Texans will have more than about 15-20 million in free capspace to work with next free agency, provided the cap doesn't increase. That money will mostly be tied up in re-signing people like Foster (Franchise tag candidate), Chris Myers, Mario (maybe), Rackers or a new Kicker, and about 5 million in rookie salaries. I know many are counting on that number to be higher, but the increase in salaries across the board for guys like AJ, Schaub, Ryans and others will eat away at the free space available.

I think our best shot would be to go after Stevie Johnson and try to get him for 5 years 35 million-ish (initial low base pay in 2012 ~5 mill, escalate over 5 years), let MW walk, tag Foster and force him to play 1 more contract year (~9 million), and hopefully retain Myers and/or Rackers on the cheap. I think that would be the best they could do, or go for a cheaper option in Garcon, who also would be a good get and a huge upgrade over Jacoby.

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 06:48 PM
Steve Johnson BUF
Brandon Lloyd DEN
Reggie Wayne IND
Pierre Garcon IND
Dwayne Bowe - KC
Wes Welker NE
Marques Colston - NO
Mario Manningham - NYG
DeSean Jackson PHI
Mike Wallace PIT (Restricted)
Vincent Jackson SD

Easiest to sign IMO: Lloyd, Garcon, Manningham, Colston, Johnson, Wayne.

Only Lloyd, Garcon and Manningham will be cheap though, the rest ought to command considerable money. I expect Bowe, both Jacksons, Wallace and Welker to all be worth at least 7-10 million base salary per year. Likely too pricey for the Texans without letting go of MW or Foster.

I don't think the Texans will have more than about 15-20 million in free capspace to work with next free agency, provided the cap doesn't increase. That money will mostly be tied up in re-signing people like Foster (Franchise tag candidate), Chris Myers, Mario (maybe), Rackers or a new Kicker, and about 5 million in rookie salaries. I know many are counting on that number to be higher, but the increase in salaries across the board for guys like AJ, Schaub, Ryans and others will eat away at the free space available.

I think our best shot would be to go after Stevie Johnson and try to get him for 5 years 35 million-ish (initial low base pay in 2012 ~5 mill, escalate over 5 years), let MW walk, tag Foster and force him to play 1 more contract year (~9 million), and hopefully retain Myers and/or Rackers on the cheap. I think that would be the best they could do, or go for a cheaper option in Garcon, who also would be a good get and a huge upgrade over Jacoby.

Good news

Johnson is a stud and Ralph Wilson isn't going to pay him. So this is a real possibility.

WR's corps sounds like a HOF pitcher with an echo. Walter Johnson Johnson Johnson. Andre,Stevie,Bryant can we give them a cool nickmame.

Ideas, Johnsons in the end zone/hardworking Johnsons/etc...

badboy
10-17-2011, 08:56 PM
Franchising and trading MW for a 1st and hopefully a 3rd would be the way to get maximum value for MW. That way you get the $$$$ saved for FA (BoB wont spend all of it and will put some of it in his pocket, think Dunta situation) and the draft picks.

A team with a solid talent base like GB, Pitts, N.E. would be hot for MW and might even give up an established WR and the picks for MW. They have the cap room and talent to do a deal like this.How about Welker and two seconds?

steelbtexan
10-17-2011, 09:11 PM
How about Welker and two seconds?

Done

Brady isn't going to let Welker go anywhere. They've got an unreal chemistry.