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Cerberus
10-11-2011, 07:44 PM
It now appears that on the final play of the Raiders v. Texans, the Raiders only fielded 10 players. Seeing how they were in man-to-man coverage, you can draw your own conclusions.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/-?blog/raiders-talk/post/-&blockID=575880&feedID=2801

redwhiteANDblue
10-11-2011, 07:46 PM
okay...

srrono
10-11-2011, 07:47 PM
its over lets move on to balt!

Yankee_In_TX
10-11-2011, 07:51 PM
If that is true, I think the Texans owe every fan a beer or soda.

Runner
10-11-2011, 07:59 PM
At some point it just becomes funny.

HJam72
10-11-2011, 08:29 PM
They have to come back! We get another play! :koolaid:


No? :gun:

drs23
10-11-2011, 08:29 PM
It now appears that on the final play of the Raiders v. Texans, the Raiders only fielded 10 players. Seeing how they were in man-to-man coverage, you can draw your own conclusions.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/-?blog/raiders-talk/post/-&blockID=575880&feedID=2801

Good game, good game, hi-five, snow-cone, game over.

its over lets move on to balt!

:thumbup

Cerberus
10-11-2011, 08:49 PM
If that is true, I think the Texans owe every fan a beer or soda.

It is true, just do a head count. There's 11 Texans and 10 Raiders.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bvh_d6UCzI&feature=player_embedded

phantom17
10-11-2011, 08:51 PM
I was insulted by the crappy, gutless play from our team!!!:toropalm:

jtexas
10-11-2011, 08:54 PM
Jacoby doesn't count as a player, so we also had 10.

utahmark
10-11-2011, 08:55 PM
If only they had played with 9.

eriadoc
10-11-2011, 08:58 PM
At some point it just becomes funny.

Yep. It's just oddly fitting.

brakos82
10-11-2011, 09:11 PM
Jacoby doesn't count as a player, so we also had 10.

/wins thread

Kulluminatii
10-11-2011, 09:20 PM
It now appears that on the final play of the Raiders v. Texans, the Raiders only fielded 10 players. Seeing how they were in man-to-man coverage, you can draw your own conclusions.

http://www.csnbayarea.com/blog/raiders-talk/post/-?blog/raiders-talk/post/-&blockID=575880&feedID=2801

The 11th man was Al Davis...





















:pirate:

Cerberus
10-12-2011, 07:12 AM
The 11th man was Al Davis...


The Raiders used the missing-man formation in honor of Davis, and it apparently worked.

Texan_Bill
10-12-2011, 07:18 AM
Jacoby doesn't count as a player, so we also had 10.

This ^^^^^^^^


its over lets move on to balt!

And then, this ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

TimeKiller
10-12-2011, 07:18 AM
I wonder how long it will take ESPN to bullshit a story about Al Davis being the 11th man?

chicagotexan2
10-12-2011, 08:47 AM
To add insult to injury TexansTalk.com has featured our teams best playmakers (Andre and Mario) on it's banner. They are both INJURED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Madden curse is mutating.:toropalm::toropalm:

Honoring Earl 34
10-12-2011, 08:56 AM
Given more time Schaub would have found the uncovered reciever of course the guy that was missing was the guy spying on him . :pirate:

phantom17
10-12-2011, 09:06 AM
Al's Ghost haunted Relaint & the Texans all day! He made Vickers drop a potential TD pass & made Jacoby run piss poor passing routes the whole game............Oh wait!:toropalm:

Ole Miss Texan
10-12-2011, 09:31 AM
Well our OL collapsed. They rushed 4 players against our 5 linemen and dominated. Plus add Schaub back there. So the Raiders dropped 6 into coverage and we had 5 'receivers'. Raiders stepped up big.

76Texan
10-12-2011, 10:19 AM
I mentioned the Raiders playing with only 10 men yesterday morning in another thread:

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1799819#post1799819

The sad part is that the Raiders played with only 10 men on the field.
Even if Schaub can't count quickly enough (due to stress of the situation), he should have realized single coverage on the right and rolled right; the Raiders would have only 3 defenders to cover 4 (including Schaub).

impossible to roll right. Watch the play. The Raiders did what you are supposed to do...flush a right handed qb to the left. Watch Jones "helping" Schaub. It's so bad its almost funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uS4AsE9rOQc

If Schaub had to wait until the play developed to start his roll, he is not vergy good in his pre-snap read.

Either he changes the protection call, or (without changing it) he can take the snap and immediately follow Foster to the right.
This is not the time to stay with the script, not when you know you have an advantage over the D.

On the play just before that, Schaub had scrambled to his right to extend the play. That was without the Raiders messing up on their personnel.
If Schaub can't do it on this play, he's not going to go very far in this league.

Eleven on ten and you let the D dictate the action?
:toropalm:


Both Kubiak and Schaub stated it was designed to the right.

Well both Kubiak and Schaub also said they got exactly the look from the D they wanted when they called the play so failing at pre-snap read wasn't the problem.

The SDE lining up far outside; the movement of the TE (Dresseen) out of his release will deter him (the SDE) a little more; Schaub has got to roll right immediately.

There was also a double-team of Myers and Brisiel on the LDT.

If Schaub rolls right and the SDE goes wide with him, Wisnton would have stepped wider as well.
Schaub can then scramble up the C gap just like the play before when he completed the 34yd pass to Dreessen on 3rd and 23.

Well maybe you can e-mail that play suggestion into Kubiak, but they got the exact look they wanted for a designed drop back pass so Schaub was not going to "roll right immediately."

And this would be my latest response to ICAK:

Obviously, Kubiak could use any help he can get.
Going back from the years before until now, it certainly looks like he can use a QC (quality control) kind of guy; one of his assistant coaches would do.

First off, the Texans need to know these situations so they can take advantage of them.
Only when they know the situation can they relate it to the guys on the field.

For example, on a play earlier when the Raiders played with 12 men on the field on defense. Brisiel, however, committed a face-mask penalty trying to protect Schaub on the free play. Lost opportunity!

Now if the Texan knew that the Raiders were playing with 10 men the field on this last play, they could have had Schaub audible a play to take advantage of the situation. If the play failed, it's still a free play. There should be a new down right there!

Painfully, Kubiak was touting at the presser that the Texans had the play they wanted, but the Raiders flushed Schaub away from it.

Perhaps he knew it (the mishap) after watching film, but wanted to avoid discussing about it with the media (no transparency).

The HC needs to pay attention to as much details as he can in order to become a better coach. Those who don't tend to lament of some games lost with excuses.
My suggestion to Kubiak is that he needs to pay a lot of attention to the details!

Chronic
10-12-2011, 12:58 PM
http://c0013994.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_8b99a8b

11 on the field for Houston

10 for Oakland

Schaub blew it big time

Thorn
10-12-2011, 01:04 PM
Wow. :lol:

ATXtexanfan
10-12-2011, 01:04 PM
it was a bad day, really bad

Chronic
10-12-2011, 01:23 PM
On final play, Raiders had 10 men on the field
Posted by Mike Florio on October 11, 2011, 9:28 PM EDT

Raiders wide receiver Schilens is congratulated by teammate McFadden after scoring a touchdown against the Texans in Houston Reuters

The day after Raiders owner Al Davis died, his team clinched a victory over the Texans by thwarting the Texans from the doorstep of the end zone on the final play of the game, as safety Michael Huff intercepted Houston quarterback Matt Schaub in the end zone.

In what was a fitting, albeit surely unintentional, missing-man formation tribute to Mr. Davis, the Raiders managed to keep the Texans from scoring with only 10 players on the field.

A reader tipped us off to the intriguing glitch earlier today, and we’ve pulled up the video of the game from the excellent Game Rewind service at NFL.com. It’s true — the Raiders had only 10 men on the field.

And so just when it looked like a moment couldn’t have gotten any more perfect, it has.

Hervoyel
10-12-2011, 01:45 PM
You could make an argument that since we had Jacoby Jones out there and he won't grow up the Texans only had ten men on the field too.

HOU-TEX
10-12-2011, 01:47 PM
Isn't this something that was brought to our attention a couple days ago? We needed an entire thread to rub it in a little more, I see

Texecutioner
10-12-2011, 01:48 PM
You could make an argument that since we had Jacoby Jones out there and he won't grow up the Texans only had ten men on the field too.

Sad, but true. We had ten men as well.

Hardcore Texan
10-12-2011, 02:09 PM
I guess Al Davis was the 11th guy.

Ole Miss Texan
10-12-2011, 02:21 PM
http://c0013994.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_8b99a8b

11 on the field for Houston

10 for Oakland

Schaub blew it big time

Schaub made an ill advised throw, yes. He and Jacoby were not on the same page. It looked to me as though Jacoby came toward him and Schaub thought he was going to box the DB out. As soon as Schaub starting throwing it, Jacoby vacated that spot and went backwards, allowing the DB to continue forward to intercept the pass.

The biggest thing on this play was our OL - the pressure the defense got was amazing. The Raiders only brought 4 players. Our 5 o-linemen couldn't handle a single one of them. So we had 6 Texans back there and 5 Receivers. The Raiders brought 4 and dropped 6.

I blame our O-line more than Schaub for that play. Plus the 6 Raiders that were in coverage defended the play really well.

Big Lou
10-12-2011, 02:26 PM
This is the second dedicated thread. See "Add insult to injury".



Please merge the two sh*tty threads.

ThaShark316
10-12-2011, 02:26 PM
If anything, the only thing I'd do different is send Foster in motion.

Now that I think about it, the play that got the TD vs. SD (the one that was nullified, ultimately costing us the game) last year would have been perfect here.

Cerberus
10-12-2011, 02:28 PM
It was the Raiders' missing-man formation.

Good thing for the Raiders it happened when the defense was compressed, because with more field to work with I think it would have been more apparent someone was missing.

Double Barrel
10-12-2011, 02:47 PM
wow....this play just gets better and better. The Texans should start using "Yakety Sax (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg)" as their music. The theme for the Benny Hill show just seems fitting sometimes.

brakos82
10-12-2011, 02:50 PM
wow....this play just gets better and better. The Texans should start using "Yakety Sax (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg)" as their music. The theme for the Benny Hill show just seems fitting sometimes.

:thinking:

:hacker:

forcefollow
10-12-2011, 08:58 PM
Choke art at its finest.
LINK (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Video-Raiders-had-10-men-on-the-field-for-game-?urn=nfl-wp9357)

Oh yeah how many times did Jacoby Jones fall down coming out of his break during that game?

speedfreek
10-12-2011, 09:13 PM
the guy simply can't play and Boobiak has too much
pride to cut that dead weight loose.

it was a retarded pick, just like most of them have
been in the Boobiak era.

TJ