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TheRealJoker
10-09-2011, 11:09 PM
1) It seems no matter who we make #2 CB they wind up being exposed and humiliated. Jackson and Allen have both proven to be liabilities as starters. Who is next up to be exposed?

2) Why did we target Jacoby 11 times and he only caught 1 pass? Were we trying not to finish drives? It seemed like Walter and the Tes would make a play which we would then squander throwing incomplete to Jacoby. Why force it to someone who wasn't getting it when we had Walter making diving catches for his team? I honestly think we would have been better off starting Anderson because at least those 11 targets to Jacoby would've went to someone who deserved them like Walter or the TEs.

3) We are now in need of a Vickers facepalm after that debacle...

4) Do we have so little confidence in Caldwell that we would put Brisiel back on the field he just barely walked off with assistance when we were under time constraints with the game on the line?

EllisUnit
10-09-2011, 11:12 PM
1) It seems no matter who we make #2 CB they wind up being exposed and humiliated. Jackson and Allen have both proven to be liabilities as starters. Who is next up to be exposed?

2) Why did we target Jacoby 11 times and he only caught 1 pass? Were we trying not to finish drives? It seemed like Walter and the Tes would make a play which we would then squander throwing incomplete to Jacoby. Why force it to someone who wasn't getting it when we had Walter making diving catches for his team? I honestly think we would have been better off starting Anderson because at least those 11 targets to Jacoby would've went to someone who deserved them like Walter or the TEs.

3) We are now in need of a Vickers facepalm after that debacle...

Ok from where i was setting it seemed like when allen pressed his man that his coverage was great but there for about 6 plays in a row they had him 10 yards off his man and it was completion after completion. But when allen was on his guy at the LOS there was never much there for the WR. Is this soft coverage wade. Why do you continue to give them an automatic 8-12 yards and not adjust ur CBs back up to the LOS where they can press the WR ! Makes no sense to me

DexmanC
10-09-2011, 11:14 PM
Meh. I counted a good 8 of those throws came off Schaub's back foot.
Dude didn't step into any throws today, and his accuracy was WAY off.

Corrosion
10-10-2011, 07:43 AM
Meh. I counted a good 8 of those throws came off Schaub's back foot.
Dude didn't step into any throws today, and his accuracy was WAY off.

Credit the Raiders DL for Schaubs poor play .... They owned the trenches and won the game. It is that simple.

BullNation4Life
10-10-2011, 07:48 AM
Credit the Raiders DL for Schaubs poor play .... They owned the trenches and won the game. It is that simple.

This I would have to agree. Hard to handle 3 Dlineman that go over 300+ and it showed.

Corrosion
10-10-2011, 07:51 AM
This I would have to agree. Hard to handle 3 Dlineman that go over 300+ and it showed.

I erased the game from the DVR as soon as Schaub threw that last pick ..... Someone go back and count the balls batted down or tipped .... and the number of times Schaub was pressured , sacked , knocked on his ass .... not to mention holding Foster in check.


The Raiders DL gets my game ball.

TimeKiller
10-10-2011, 10:48 AM
1) Up next? Nobody. Don't you know that there can be only 1 personnel change per year? I'm pretty sure it's in the new CBA.....

2) Couldn't tell you. Schaub was wild but Dre makes half of those catches and Walter (considering the few passes he got thrown his way) was like a vaccuum out there, probably should've been looking to him like....a lot more. Daniels? Why rely on him to bring you down the field for one quarter? Let him do it the whole game.....nothing wrong with a 30 catch game if it's working KEEP DOING IT

3) Vickers doesn't deserve a thing. Give him what he is owed and move on. He must catch everything in practice because all I've seen in games is CLANK CHHHHCLANK Uhbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbclank. CLANK!!! Hammer hands. Vonta Leach thinks he needs better gloves.

4) Pretty f'ed right there huh? Caldwell must've played his way onto somebody's **** list.

TexCanada
10-10-2011, 10:51 AM
I had an issue with a #2. Some laxatives took care of it though.

robroy72
10-10-2011, 10:55 AM
I erased the game from the DVR as soon as Schaub threw that last pick ..... Someone go back and count the balls batted down or tipped .... and the number of times Schaub was pressured , sacked , knocked on his ass .... not to mention holding Foster in check.


The Raiders DL gets my game ball.

It was mentioned on the news last night that 7 passes were tipped.

TexanBacker93
10-10-2011, 11:09 AM
Of those 11 targets to Jacoby I think there was maybe one that Andre could have come up with. Schaub's passes were low or way off. He actually had a great opportunity early in the 4th when he scrambled out of bounds for no yards with Jacoby coming across the middle wide open. As it was for most of the game, Matt just didn't have his QB sense going. He telegraphed passes which led to them knocking them all down. He stared straight ahead and didn't seem to look at other options.

As for the #2 CB. There was a reason Allen was cut in midseason by the Dolphins. Yeah he makes a play here and there, but he's a liability. He's an upgrade over Kareem Jackson, but that's like saying C.C. Brown was an upgrade over Matt Stevens.

welsh texan
10-10-2011, 02:31 PM
Schaub was bouncing balls five yards shy of his wide reciever all damn day, there was one point where he threw for touch and it bounced before going out :toropalm:

There were a number of throws where Jacoby had his man beaten and Schaub just couldn't make the throw, the one that was wide right with Jacoby at full stretch was a particular low point, the guy was wide open and you throw it beyond his best effort?