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thunderkyss
10-05-2011, 10:39 AM
Who's going to replace Hank?

Who would you like to see & what song?

I'd like to see Black Label Society do something with Still Born

Or even Ozzy doing something with Crazy Train.......

Dread-Head
10-05-2011, 12:39 PM
I think Hank's an id-yut...but I don't think they should have fired him.

but "Are ya ready ta...get...FIRED!"

infantrycak
10-05-2011, 01:02 PM
I don't think they have fired him and don't think they will. They officially only pulled the intro for one game. Maybe there will be 1-2 more.

Corrosion
10-06-2011, 06:03 AM
I don't think they have fired him and don't think they will. They officially only pulled the intro for one game. Maybe there will be 1-2 more.

I can imagine the lawsuit iof they were to fire him - Violation of the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

drunkcookie
10-06-2011, 10:35 AM
I can imagine the lawsuit iof they were to fire him - Violation of the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

How does ESPN firing Hank Jr violate the first amendment? The first amendment is a restriction on the government, not citizens or private businesses etc...

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gtexan02
10-06-2011, 11:28 AM
I don't think they have fired him and don't think they will. They officially only pulled the intro for one game. Maybe there will be 1-2 more.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7066449/espn-hank-williams-jr-theme-song-return-monday-night-football



Hank Williams Jr. and his iconic theme song will not return to ESPN's "Monday Night Football," the network announced Thursday.

In the wake of Williams using an analogy involving Adolf Hitler and President Barack Obama to make a political point on the Fox News Channel, Williams' "All My Rowdy Friends" will no longer be part of the MNF opening.

"We have decided to part ways with Hank Williams, Jr," ESPN said in a statement. "We appreciate his contributions over the past years. The success of Monday Night Football has always been about the games and that will continue."

On his own website, Williams said he was the one who made the decision.

"After reading hundreds of e-mails, I have made MY decision," he wrote. "By pulling my opening Oct 3rd, You (ESPN) stepped on the Toes of The First Amendment Freedom of Speech, so therefore Me, My Song, and All My Rowdy Friends are OUT OF HERE. It's been a great run."

drunkcookie
10-06-2011, 11:41 AM
Had ole Hank Jr used "Hatfields and McCoys", it would have been no news (or Taylors and Suttons for a bloody Texas feud)... There's just something about dropping the name Hitler that draws more attention, and mostly negative...

I do understand that Hank Jr wasn't calling Obama Hitler and all, but he doesn't have a right to that MNF gig, and ESPN/ABC has a right to fire him/whatever..

Helluva a run he had there, and i love his closing statement in the post above... But he's ignorant if he feels the first amendment's toes have been stepped on here... Stick to what you do and know best, Hank...

Double Barrel
10-06-2011, 12:40 PM
It was simply a dumbass remark to invoke Hitler in any sort of way. There is nothing light about industrial genocide where millions of men, women, and children were systematically executed. I understand context and how the public may have misconstrued his remarks, but I still think it's just dumb to bring Hitler into a discussion as any sort of reference. That's why the term Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) even exists on the internet.

I support Jr.'s right to say what he wants (even in disagreement), but I also support a company's right to protect it's brand.

silvrhand
10-06-2011, 01:14 PM
It was simply a dumbass remark to invoke Hitler in any sort of way. There is nothing light about industrial genocide where millions of men, women, and children were systematically executed. I understand context and how the public may have misconstrued his remarks, but I still think it's just dumb to bring Hitler into a discussion as any sort of reference. That's why the term Godwin's Law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law) even exists on the internet.

I support Jr.'s right to say what he wants (even in disagreement), but I also support a company's right to protect it's brand.

Exactly, you can say what you want when you want, but you better be ready to take responsibility for your own actions and if people don't like it or your company doesn't like it well then, prepare for the response.

See Dixie Chicks as an example..

El Tejano
10-06-2011, 01:31 PM
Ok. I'm late. What was actually said in the song?

OzzO
10-06-2011, 01:37 PM
It wasn't said in the song....

The award-winning country singer made the controversial comparison in an interview on Fox and Friends Monday morning in a bizarre chat about politics.

Williams began his TV appearance by slamming the GOP presidential candidates and saying House Majority Leader John Boehner's golf game with Obama was a huge mistake.

"You remember the golf game they had? That was one of the biggest political mistakes ever. That turned a lot of people off. It just didn't go over," he said.
When asked what about the game he didn't like, Williams Jr. pointed to the participants.

"Come on, come on, that would be like Hitler playing golf with [Israeli prime minister Benjamin] Netanyahu," he said. "In the shape this country is in?"

When host Brian Kilmeade said he didn't understand the analogy, Williams Jr. replied "I'm glad you don't brother, because a lot of people do. They're the enemy... Obama! And Biden! Are you kidding? The Three Stooges."

It was not clear who the third stooge was in that analogy.

"The one that makes the most sense is Hermann Cain," he said, of the Republican field.

The hosts noted Williams once supported Sarah Palin.

"Boy was I … I don't know, like I said guys they've turned a lot of people off," he said. "Look at USA Today poll, 89% said Congress should be completely replaced. I agree with them. The healthcare bill doesn't fly either."....

nydaily news (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2011/10/03/2011-10-03_hank_williams_jr_compares_president_obama_to_ad olf_hitler_in_interview_on_fox_an.html)

Mr. Texan
10-06-2011, 03:23 PM
the outside the lines discussion on espn about this subject was great lol

paul finebaum made himself look like a douche.

DexmanC
10-06-2011, 07:03 PM
They didn't fire him. They're just giving him the Dr. Laura / Don Imus treatment.
All you Hank fans, don't worry. The evidence would show that being a white
racist on the air will get you a new contract, for more pay, once you sit out for a few weeks.

Even Colbert got props after he disrespected President Obama, on the air,
in person.

Hank's gonna make BANK.

thunderkyss
10-07-2011, 12:48 AM
They didn't fire him. They're just giving him the Dr. Laura / Don Imus treatment.
All you Hank fans, don't worry. The evidence would show that being a white
racist on the air will get you a new contract, for more pay, once you sit out for a few weeks.

Even Colbert got props after he disrespected President Obama, on the air,
in person.

Hank's gonna make BANK.

So if a person disrespects Obama he's a Racist?

If I disrespect you, using references to Socialist oppressors...... would I be racist?

How 'bout if I just disrespect you?

Is it possible that I simply don't have any respect for you regardless what your racial make-up is?

eriadoc
10-07-2011, 12:59 AM
I don't know who they'll replace him with, but count me among the seemingly precious few that can't stand Faith Hill. If I wanted to hear a Joan Jett intro to SNF, I'd want to hear it from Joan Jett. If I wanted Faith Hill, I would have wanted pseudo-pop almost sorta kinda country (in which case, just loan me a pistol, please).

Give me someone real, whoever it is. But I suppose that's probably too much to ask.

thunderkyss
10-07-2011, 08:49 AM
Give me someone real, whoever it is. But I suppose that's probably too much to ask.

Chili Peppers?

DexmanC
10-07-2011, 11:23 AM
So if a person disrespects Obama he's a Racist?
(Colbert's antics had a specific context in which they occurred.)

If I disrespect you, using references to Socialist oppressors...... would I be racist?
(Depends on the context in which those references were made)

How 'bout if I just disrespect you?
(Depends on the context in which the disrespect occurred.)

Is it possible that I simply don't have any respect for you regardless what your racial make-up is?
(Every situation has a context, which could be examined for clarity.)

Hmmm.. Looks like you're refusing to look any deeper than surface level,
and thus, we will not agree on the context necessary to take this conversation
further.

My comments in "bold."

Shaft75
10-07-2011, 11:27 AM
They didn't fire him. They're just giving him the Dr. Laura / Don Imus treatment.
All you Hank fans, don't worry. The evidence would show that being a white
racist on the air will get you a new contract, for more pay, once you sit out for a few weeks.

Even Colbert got props after he disrespected President Obama, on the air,
in person.

Hank's gonna make BANK.

At what point did Hank say something that was truly racist?

Hardcore Texan
10-07-2011, 02:55 PM
At what point did Hank say something that was truly racist?

I guess Hank implied that Obama has a problem with Jews and Boehner hates Arabs? :smiliepalm:

Playoffs
10-07-2011, 03:12 PM
Hank, in invoking Hitler, just failed the minimum IQ test to be on MNF... and that's a pretty low bar.

Actors & entertainers need to stick to what they do and stop trying to push political agendas they have no experience with. http://www.chicagosvt.com/forums/images/smilies/quote.gifStarshttp://www.chicagosvt.com/forums/images/smilies/quote.gif don't live the lives on your average 9-to-5 or laid-off American.

Was time for a new MNF song anyway.

Who's next? (no pun intended)

drunkcookie
10-08-2011, 09:45 AM
Actors & entertainers need to stick to what they do and stop trying to push political agendas they have no experience with.

I agree for the most part...

Hank forgot for a split second that the MNF viewers aren't all redneck fans of his...

drunkcookie
10-08-2011, 09:55 AM
They didn't fire him. They're just giving him the Dr. Laura / Don Imus treatment.
All you Hank fans, don't worry. The evidence would show that being a white
racist on the air will get you a new contract, for more pay, once you sit out for a few weeks.

Even Colbert got props after he disrespected President Obama, on the air,
in person.

Hank's gonna make BANK.

Hank Jr. may very well be a racist, in whichever way you choose to define it, but if you see his "Hitler" comments as racist you're an *****...

#1, he didn't compare Obama to Hitler, he compared Boener and Obama's relationship (on the course, at least) to a hypothetical relationship between Nazi Hitler and the leader of Israel...

#2, in the context it was used, Hitler would have been used in place of Boener, as Hank was upset with Boener for playing golf with Obama, "Boener playing golf with Obama is like Hitler playing golf with Net...Ye... Net.yahoo?"

There will always be racists, but racism doesn't need to be an issue, and not throwing the racism card so loosely would go miles in helping to do that...

infantrycak
10-08-2011, 10:07 AM
Actors & entertainers need to stick to what they do and stop trying to push political agendas they have no experience with.

To be fair, he wasn't pushing anything. The hosts of the show had him talking politics and the presidential candidates.

disaacks3
10-08-2011, 10:24 AM
I don't think they have fired him and don't think they will. They officially only pulled the intro for one game. Maybe there will be 1-2 more. How fast time flies...that was only two days ago.

Had ole Hank Jr used "Hatfields and McCoys", it would have been no news (or Taylors and Suttons for a bloody Texas feud)... There's just something about dropping the name Hitler that draws more attention, and mostly negative...

I do understand that Hank Jr wasn't calling Obama Hitler and all, but he doesn't have a right to that MNF gig, and ESPN/ABC has a right to fire him/whatever..

Helluva a run he had there, and i love his closing statement in the post above... But he's ignorant if he feels the first amendment's toes have been stepped on here... Stick to what you do and know best, Hank... Agree with the reference...and his "rowdy friends" would get the reference.

They didn't fire him. They're just giving him the Dr. Laura / Don Imus treatment.
All you Hank fans, don't worry. The evidence would show that being a white
racist on the air will get you a new contract, for more pay, once you sit out for a few weeks.

Even Colbert got props after he disrespected President Obama, on the air,
in person.

Hank's gonna make BANK. Good luck with that. Th eMNF gig was one of the only things keeping his career afloat.

Hank Jr. may very well be a racist, in whichever way you choose to define it, but if you see his "Hitler" comments as racist you're an *****...

#1, he didn't compare Obama to Hitler, he compared Boener and Obama's relationship (on the course, at least) to a hypothetical relationship between Nazi Hitler and the leader of Israel...

#2, in the context it was used, Hitler would have been used in place of Boener, as Hank was upset with Boener for playing golf with Obama, "Boener playing golf with Obama is like Hitler playing golf with Net...Ye... Net.yahoo?"

There will always be racists, but racism doesn't need to be an issue, and not throwing the racism card so loosely would go miles in helping to do that... Yep, there wasn't any racist effort in there whatsoever...I guess folks forget that neither Hitler nor Netanyahu are "colored folk".

The reference to me was 'making deals with the devil'. In this case Boehner 'making deals' with Obama would be as bad as Netanyahu 'making deals' with Hitler.