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YodAa
04-24-2005, 05:10 PM
So I've heard that Glenn's been givin permission to seek a trade, and what this thread is about is who , if we do trade him, would you want in exchange for him? Please don't post how you don't want to trade him cause hes a leader and can teach PB and D-Rob and etc., I'm just who or what would you want in exchange for him?

Davis37
04-24-2005, 05:12 PM
I would prob take draft picks

O.G.
04-24-2005, 05:21 PM
What about sending him back to the Jets for John Abreham? I know it's a reach and he probably won't fit our scheme but it's a thought.

Johnny Utah
04-24-2005, 05:25 PM
The question is what can we get for Glenn. I think not very much. He's 33, makes a ton of money, and his skills declined last season. We would be lucky to get a 5th round pick for him IMO.

I would rather keep him around for next season then cut him at the end of the year.

utahmark
04-24-2005, 05:44 PM
The question is what can we get for Glenn. I think not very much. He's 33, makes a ton of money, and his skills declined last season. We would be lucky to get a 5th round pick for him IMO.

I would rather keep him around for next season then cut him at the end of the year.

the only + to letting glenn go is to get rid of his salary this year. to do that they need to get rid of him before june 1st. that way we can eat the rest of his sign on bonus this year and not have any of his dead money around next year.

Grid
04-24-2005, 06:00 PM
I honestly cant think of someone invaluable enough to another team that they would take a 33 year old CB who had an average year last season.

Trade him to Oakland for their 1st in 2009 :P.

texansfan1974
04-24-2005, 06:21 PM
Travis Henry is also seeking a trade. So why not him? :hmmm:

O.G.
04-24-2005, 06:32 PM
Travis Henry is also seeking a trade. So why not him? :hmmm:

You know they mentioned that in the draft when speaking to Capers......not a bad thought

texasguy346
04-24-2005, 06:55 PM
Travis Henry is also seeking a trade. So why not him? :hmmm:

Buffalo wouldn't do a player for player swap with Arizona for their LT Shelton. I doubt they'd consider a trade for a 33 year old CB, and a relatively young RB straight up.

BigDTexansFan
04-24-2005, 06:58 PM
Parcells took Drew Bledsoe over Kurt Warner...he willl give us a #2 round pick for one of HIS boys :thumbup

Davis37
04-24-2005, 07:14 PM
the only + to letting glenn go is to get rid of his salary this year. to do that they need to get rid of him before june 1st. that way we can eat the rest of his sign on bonus this year and not have any of his dead money around next year.

He wouldnt be "dead money". He would be a mentor to DROB and PB. It may cost us some money, but AG could teach our young CB's alot this year which would help us more in the future (more than xtra cap room that we arent going to use this year). CC already said he isnt going to pick up anybody big in FA so we dont need the cap room this year. If i had to trade Glenn for anything I would take a 4th round pick cause CC always seems to come through in the 4th! :thumbup Go Mathis, and GO TEXANS!! :thumbup

Bubbajwp
04-24-2005, 07:21 PM
i would wont at least a 2nd round draft pick but i think that is pretty unrealistic.

Overalls
04-24-2005, 07:53 PM
I would like nothing for Glen. I want to keep him.

edo783
04-24-2005, 08:20 PM
If we have to have him go, then a trade for an O-lineman or two, dependent on quality, would be "OK" I guess.

TheOgre
04-24-2005, 08:23 PM
Donnie Abraham is leaning towards retirement right now. The Jets look like a good fit for Glenn. Unfortunately, I don't think we get squat for him, just like we didn't get anything for Sharper. I am saddened by this, but I think it is the reality. The team is going young and fast. They seem to be cutting ties with most of the veterans that we had in our inaugural season.

texman8
04-24-2005, 09:30 PM
Personally, I want Glenn to stay..It's not like we really need the cap space. This is going to hurt Glenn because he isn't going to get the same money out there. Change is inevitable in the NFL. Next year, Walker,McKinney,and probably Wong will be gone.

DocBar
04-24-2005, 09:31 PM
I'd like to see us get Ray Lewis.

D-ReK
04-24-2005, 09:32 PM
It doesn't matter since we're likely to cut him and get no compensation...

Trapped
04-24-2005, 09:32 PM
A team that can win now and needs secondary help....... It will either be the Jets or.... COLTS. He's gonna be a June 1st cut though.

tiger06
04-24-2005, 09:33 PM
If it's absolutely impossible to keep him, I want at least a 3rd round pick for him.

Hervoyel
04-24-2005, 10:43 PM
We will get nothing for Glenn just like we got nothing for Sharper and for the same reasons.

That said if I had to ask for something in exchange for Glenn I'd say I'll give up Aaron Glenn for a clone of Dunta Robinson, nothing less. Go get some DNA, get busy cloning and don't call me asking for Aaron Glenn until you're finished and "Dunta II" is ready to suit up.

LBblitz
04-24-2005, 11:39 PM
I'd like to see us get Ray Lewis.

and jamal lewis + a 2nd round pick :fib :woot lol

keyfro
04-25-2005, 12:00 AM
how about offensive line help

ComstockLode
04-25-2005, 12:09 AM
Derrick Johnson :woot

But seriously, anything would be great so we dont get nothing for him when we have to cut him....

TexansNeedRBin05
04-25-2005, 12:13 AM
I GOT IT! Trade him to the Charges for Phil Rivers! :thumbup

ComstockLode
04-25-2005, 12:17 AM
I GOT IT! Trade him to the Charges for Phil Rivers! :thumbup

And then trade him to cowboys for a 3rd rounder :thumbup

texman8
04-25-2005, 12:24 AM
Funny, H Can we make that clone a little bigger?

FILO_girl
04-25-2005, 12:27 AM
how about offensive line help

WOW, someone sees what I see! (or don't see on our roster!) :)

keyfro
04-25-2005, 12:34 AM
yeah i don't see quality depth at offensive tackle position...at the very least we could get a middle round pick next year and a solid young back-up tackle

michaelm
04-25-2005, 02:11 AM
I don't want him to go, but if he does, use his cap space for something useful...
I still wouldn't mind seeing a S. Alexander or Edge in a Texans uni.
Very improbable, I know, but a guy can dream... at least that's what I should be doing instead of trolling this board @ 1am...

astrofan
04-25-2005, 11:08 AM
I would trade Glenn, Moses, and all of our second day picks next year for Wes Welker, the "Natural"

Wes and Mathis waiting on kicks would be very intimidating for opposing special teams and if Jerome became too integral to our offense it might save him some wear and tear.
Think about running an offensive set out on passing downs with VM in the backfield, AngyrDre on the outside, Wes in the slot, DD in the other slot, and Mathis split wide outside of DD. The Texans couldn't defend that with 15 guys on the field.

Houston sportsfans would then have both Roy Hobbs and the Natural (Luke Scott and Wes)

CaptainPatriot
04-25-2005, 02:03 PM
So I've heard that Glenn's been givin permission to seek a trade, and what this thread is about is who , if we do trade him, would you want in exchange for him? Please don't post how you don't want to trade him cause hes a leader and can teach PB and D-Rob and etc., I'm just who or what would you want in exchange for him?

I would say a DT or 2nd round draft pick

CaptainPatriot
04-25-2005, 02:04 PM
I GOT IT! Trade him to the Charges for Phil Rivers! :thumbup


I like your way of thinking :thumbup

JfromthaTray
04-25-2005, 02:37 PM
We need a good free safety. That Marcus Coleman experiment was a complete bust.

Errant Hothy
04-25-2005, 02:44 PM
We need a good free safety. That Marcus Coleman experiment was a complete bust.

Sorry, I don't see it that way, espically the KC game.

As for what I want for Glenn...anything. I'd really hate to seea nother tradabel commodity leave the team with out us gettign anything. Ideally I'd like a mid-round pick in next year's draft.

TheOgre
04-25-2005, 02:51 PM
We need to see how certain players do this year. The label of "project" has to come off of Wand, Pitts, and Peek. Joppru has to give us something too. Jammal Lord needs to show us that he has some grasp of playing safety and has some ability in said position. Is he a nice backup or Coleman's heir apparent? I hope Greenwood is an improvement on Sharper and not another Charlie Clemons type bust. We are 4 QB's deep but are Ragone and Symons ready for duty any time soon?

Speaking of Symons, we seem to have a lot of "bottom feeders" that are sticking around. Guys with lots of potential like the already mentioned Lord and Symons. Others are Starling, Milford Brown, Weary, and the slew of OLB Tweeners we have drafted over the years. Are these guys nothing but depth?

Xman
04-25-2005, 03:06 PM
Dallas comes to mind as a team needing a veteran CB - (if Newman sucks again or if they have an injury)
Could they use Moses - we coudl add him in for free.

I would be thrilled if we could get a 3rd next year. A 4th would be better than nothing. (maybe Glenn and our 4th for a 3rd)

If the Jets want him back - same deal - we could even throw in Coleman if we get a 2nd round pick :heh:

Xman
04-25-2005, 03:07 PM
Maybe Shelton from AZ - he could provide a mediocre alternative if we need it

D-ReK
04-25-2005, 03:09 PM
If the Jets want him back - same deal - we could even throw in Coleman if we get a 2nd round pick :heh:

Then who would start at FS, Jammal Lord? Great idea :rolleyes: ...

texasguy346
04-25-2005, 03:13 PM
Dallas comes to mind as a team needing a veteran CB - (if Newman sucks again or if they have an injury)
Could they use Moses - we coudl add him in for free.


I doubt Dallas has much interest in Glenn. They just paid big bucks to get Anthony Henry from the Browns to play opposite of Newman.

Davis37
04-25-2005, 03:22 PM
Dallas comes to mind as a team needing a veteran CB - (if Newman sucks again or if they have an injury)
Could they use Moses - we coudl add him in for free.

I would be thrilled if we could get a 3rd next year. A 4th would be better than nothing. (maybe Glenn and our 4th for a 3rd)

If the Jets want him back - same deal - we could even throw in Coleman if we get a 2nd round pick :heh:

Why would you want to trade our 4th and Glenn for a 3rd? Our 4th round picks always come out good. we should start trading our 2nd round picks for 3rd and 4ths lol. WTF have you been smoking to talk about trading Coleman??? He did great last year at FS for us! He single handedly won the Chiefs game for us. We dont even have a decent backup for him if we did trade him...

El Tejano
04-25-2005, 04:13 PM
You could trade him to the Raiders. The Raiders like old veterans (and I am not trying to be funny) and quick fixes. They got a few picks from their trades this season but they also have a couple of players we could use like Jerry Porter or something.

TheOgre
04-25-2005, 04:17 PM
Why would the Raiders trade a young WR they just signed to a big contract for a soon-to-be washed up CB?

I see the Jets as a team in need of a CB. We might get a low pick (5th or 6th) from them.

JfromthaTray
04-25-2005, 05:11 PM
Pitts had a better 2nd year than 3rd, Carr had the fewest sacks when pitts was at left tackle. Wand, with that huge frame must get stronger and move his feet better. Peek showed flashes of playmaking ability each time he was on the field. He made the most of limited opportunities. He needs to keep his head in the game and channel his emotions and play with controlled rage.

JfromthaTray
04-25-2005, 06:36 PM
He had 1 or 2 good games, but there are 16. He was consistantly late in over the top help and out of position to make plays most of the time. Call me critical, but I'm a realist. I'm also one of the texans biggest fans. I haven't missed a game either in person or on the tube. We have some huge holes that need to be filled. Steve McKinney for example. He has played as bad as anyone on the O-Line, but he's media saavy and a homeboy so he escapes most of the criticism from the fans and the media. The same goes for Aaron Glenn. G-Funk Walker hasn't been what we expected, and we signed him to a huge deal. The drafts indicate that the brass agree with me, D-Line, center, and the trade for Buchannan.

Vinny
04-25-2005, 06:49 PM
Steve McKinney for example. He has played as bad as anyone on the O-Line, but he's media saavy and a homeboy so he escapes most of the criticism from the fans and the media. The fans have been extremely hard on McKinney. He hasn't escaped anything.

JfromthaTray
04-25-2005, 07:02 PM
Myself and a hand full of others have been hard on Mckinney, are you willing to admit that he gets a free ride from the media or in your eyes are they equally as hard on him as myself and a few other fans who call things as they see them without all the sugar on top.

Vinny
04-25-2005, 07:05 PM
I have only seen you say a few words the last few days, but we have been pounding on McKinney here and at hpf for well over a year now.

texasguy346
04-25-2005, 07:06 PM
There were numerous threads where people called out McKinney for being the worst of the OLinemen. Here's just one of the threads I found. Link (http://www.houstontexans.com/fan_zone/messageboards/showthread.php?t=5588&highlight=McKinney+Stinks)

There was no shortage of people who felt McKinney was the weak link.

Xman
04-25-2005, 07:15 PM
I am not in a hurry to trade Glenn or Coleman - but our D is in a state of flux, so why not replace them with cheaper younger players NOW - instead of having to do it in 2 years when the rest of our D has stabilized (hopefully it can be stabilized by then).

Dallas still seems like the best option - Newman hasn't cut it. Plus they have no depth. As much as they have improved the rest of their D, they should be willing to part with a draft pick to round out their secondary.

JfromthaTray
04-25-2005, 07:19 PM
I know you see my join date I haven't been here but a few days (and have made some enemies), I'm not exactly talking here, but I'm glad to know it.

TopTexanFan16
04-25-2005, 07:20 PM
i'd hate to see glenn go to the cowgirls....it'd be a sad day in texan football. :thumbdown

SESupergenius
04-25-2005, 07:24 PM
Glenn should go to the Patriots, they are going to need after losing 2 coordinators and a couple of vets. Last year was their last SB in a long while. Brady will tie up their manuvering as well.

texasguy346
04-25-2005, 07:25 PM
Just for future reference we have a search function that comes in handy at times. You can enter keywords to search for and find numerous threads (both old and new) about a particular subject. It's a good way to find out what other posters thoughts are or were on a player, or a game, etc. As you can imagine much of the talk the past month or so was centered more on the draft than on Texan players. That would explain why you didn't see McKinney mentioned much. Now that the draft is over I expect more and more talk about the players and the team.

Hervoyel
04-25-2005, 09:54 PM
Then who would start at FS, Jammal Lord? Great idea :rolleyes: ...

I'd give up Coleman for a 2 and start Jammal Lord. The Texans started Matt Stevens for two years and I don't have a doubt in my mind that Lord would be an improvement over that.

He might not be the equal of Coleman but he'd be better than Stevens and after two years of Matt Stevens nothing at safety scares me.

infantrycak
04-25-2005, 10:58 PM
after two years of Matt Stevens nothing at safety scares me.

Well now that part is true although the idea of ... ok can't even type his name, you know who, gives me the shivers--with one more year I might agree with you. This year, I want Coleman out there looking for that KC type pick. JMO, but he will make more this year after having gotten used to his position.

“Field Artillery lends dignity to what would otherwise be a vulgar brawl.”

And vulgar brawl is our middle name. Remind me again when cannon-cockers occupied/took something? :thumbup

Hervoyel
04-26-2005, 09:56 AM
Oh yeah, no doubt about it Coleman is the better answer to this problem. I was just saying that we've all "seen the elephant" so to speak and once you've sat through a 16 game season of Matt Stevens Greatest Hits there's really no way it can get worse. Lord would be a serviceable player in that spot IMO. By the end of the season he'd be good to go. I'd still do it (a #2 for Glenn and Coleman) but it would be easier to do if we still had McCree back there.

Moot point now anyway, Glenn's leaving no strings attached and we get nothing but cap space out of the deal.

Artillery never took anything I agree. On the other hand they're a lot easier to keep out of trouble and nowhere near as tough to get the cuffs on. This of course coming from a 95B.

barzilla
04-26-2005, 10:02 AM
He's going to the Cowboys which limits our options. I say get a 5th or 6th round pick in next year's draft. Keep accumulating picks (we already have an extra third).

USMC_dude
04-26-2005, 10:06 AM
IMO if we want a good season this year, then try to get at least some average Olinemen. Or at least 1 above agerage left O-tackle. If not then try for no less than 2 picks next year. Nothing less than 4th round. Glenn is good still (yes older) but still good. And has more to offer than just game play.

I'm thinking noone will take hiim though since they know we will release him into free agency if noone takes the trade. that's my call. Write it down... :cool:

beerlover
04-26-2005, 10:12 AM
its clear to me the Texans still do not have the talent base to draft BPA, they seem to favor drafting for need. Casserly also favors free agents who are still young enough to develop to Cappers systems. in the case of pb its extreme (two years) but in most cases (Greenwood & Wade) its at the end of their rookie contracts.

now since they have figured a way to jettison former pro-bowlers with years of NFL experience we should be ready to accept Gary Walker & Marcus Colemans days as numbered.

it will be very interesting to see how the next NFL labor negoiations transpire, I'd be very surprised if the NFL veterens around the league are happy with the last years of their contracts, hence protracted grievences to factor in more security for older players to avoid these situations.

michaelm
04-26-2005, 10:28 AM
it will be very interesting to see how the next NFL labor negoiations transpire, I'd be very surprised if the NFL veterens around the league are happy with the last years of their contracts, hence protracted grievences to factor in more security for older players to avoid these situations.

Do you really think that they have a leg to stand on? I mean, there are just as many situations where players cry about their multi million $ contracts and want to renegotiate as there are teams that release players...