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silvrhand
09-26-2011, 10:40 AM
I can deal with, am I happy no, but am I throwing a fit like last years heartbreaking loss no. It's early in the year, we are making improvements in all areas and continue to get better. I fully expected that we could come out 2-2 after the first 4 games. We have all talked about how front loaded our schedule this year with the steelers, raiders, and ravens all coming up.

There are a lot more games to come, it's done let's move on.

drunkcookie
09-26-2011, 10:58 AM
Yah, it's really not that bad of a loss...

We can blame it on defense there are things it could of done better... But look who we were playing... The saints offense carved up green bay in the 2nd half at lambo, then carved up a pretty good defense last week... Is anyone that surprised?

Redzone scoring? Sure it sucked.. but when teams lose games there are usually some points left in the redzone, and unless you're the 72(?) Dolphins, you're gunna do it, but it needs to happen as little as possible..

I felt goin into this game that if the Texans beat NO in their house, they just may be for real... But if they lost, i wouldn't call them for real yet, but that doesn't mean they can't be....

I still feel that way.. they beat two now 0-3 teams and lost to a SB caliber team.... I know nothing of this Texans team yet...

Beat the Steelers....

Thorn
09-26-2011, 11:01 AM
I can deal with, am I happy no, but am I throwing a fit like last years heartbreaking loss no. It's early in the year, we are making improvements in all areas and continue to get better. I fully expected that we could come out 2-2 after the first 4 games. We have all talked about how front loaded our schedule this year with the steelers, raiders, and ravens all coming up.

There are a lot more games to come, it's done let's move on.

I predicted the Texans would be 2-2 after the first four. But now, after watching them play the Saints, I see no reason whatsoever they can't be 3-1. I honestly don't think the Steelers at our house is as hard a game as the Saints at their house.

We shall see in six days.

Double Barrel
09-26-2011, 11:03 AM
I agree with Thorn. The Steelers looked beatable. If the Texans played like they did yesterday, they can be 3-1 next week this time.

chicagotexan2
09-26-2011, 11:06 AM
I used to be 'well at least he hung in there', but now I'm 'damn, we should've beaten those guys'. I still think we have a playoff team. We got beaten because we couldn't punch it in when we should have.

badboy
09-26-2011, 11:07 AM
I thought if we beat Saints it would be an impact statement to us and to the league. We had this game in 4th and Wade had no answer (or perhaps not the players) to finish. It was sort of like his game plan worked well but Saints finally adapted and Wade could not counter produce.

This loss does not keep us out of playoffs but does leave me to wonder how the next game and thus the season will go. I would like to enter a game with confidence rather than "what is going to happen now?"

irregardless of Schaub's stats, I really hope he begins to work on his accuracy. At least he is making better decision to throw ball away than to force a pass.

Double Barrel
09-26-2011, 11:09 AM
Instead of blaming the Texans, give the Saints their due. It's not like they are some crappy team that won't put up a fight. I think all this "blame game" mentality by fans is bit much. The Saints are arguable one of the 2-3 best teams in the NFL. And while I don't buy into so-called 'moral victories', I do buy into seeing tendencies with our team that indicate that they are not the same Texans of the past 9 years.

Kimmy
09-26-2011, 11:13 AM
Instead of blaming the Texans, give the Saints their due. It's not like they are some crappy team that won't put up a fight. I think all this "blame game" mentality by fans is bit much. The Saints are arguable one of the 2-3 best teams in the NFL. And while I don't buy into so-called 'moral victories', I do buy into seeing tendencies with our team that indicate that they are not the same Texans of the past 9 years.

True. They had to score 40 points to beat us.

Ryan
09-26-2011, 11:14 AM
Yeah, we definitely had this game in our control and couldn't produce. Our defense picked up our offense last week, and nobody could pick up each other yesterday. Offense sputtered in the redzone, the defense gave up the most damning drive i've seen in a while, special teams put the defense and offense in bad position.


Everyone is to blame, and i don't think anyone expected us to go 4-0 through these first few games. Win against the Steelers and we still make just as strong of a statement IMO, although the talking heads may say we won due to the o-line troubles of the Steelers or something of that sort.

El Tejano
09-26-2011, 11:15 AM
Instead of blaming the Texans, give the Saints their due. It's not like they are some crappy team that won't put up a fight. I think all this "blame game" mentality by fans is bit much. The Saints are arguable one of the 2-3 best teams in the NFL. And while I don't buy into so-called 'moral victories', I do buy into seeing tendencies with our team that indicate that they are not the same Texans of the past 9 years.

When KW caught the TD pass, I thought "We have to win this game, and this is our year. That never happens for us."

Giant Tiger
09-26-2011, 11:27 AM
When KW caught the TD pass, I thought "We have to win this game, and this is our year. That never happens for us."

Me, too; I thought there's no way they can beat us now. I figured they'd get a field goal & we'd score again since the bounces were going our way. Next game against the Steelers will be a better barometer of this team than this game was.

ThaShark316
09-26-2011, 11:44 AM
This was NOT Dallas. That is ****in all.

Hervoyel
09-26-2011, 11:59 AM
Instead of blaming the Texans, give the Saints their due. It's not like they are some crappy team that won't put up a fight. I think all this "blame game" mentality by fans is bit much. The Saints are arguable one of the 2-3 best teams in the NFL. And while I don't buy into so-called 'moral victories', I do buy into seeing tendencies with our team that indicate that they are not the same Texans of the past 9 years.

I agree with this. I think the blame game mentality comes from our history. I know our fans are just like everybody's fans for the most part but we all know that there have been specific times in the past when everyone in the stadium could look at the Texans and spot a glaring problem. Still they'd push on and "stay the course". I think collectively we're used to being able to spot the problem.

But like you I think this loss was a product of the Saints simply refusing to go down. The Texans did everything they could to make it happen but the Saints just wouldn't lose this game.

Have we got things to work on? Of course. Every team does. There are literally 32 "works in progress" taking the field in week three. Nobody is doing everything the way they want to be, not even the Patriots or the teams like the Bills who seem to be benefitting from divine intervention. Something they're trying to do isn't working right and eventually some defensive coordinator is going to figure out how to hurt them with it if they don't fix it.

It's a long season and it's almost all still ahead of us.

I had this feeling that if we managed to win in New Orleans we'd come back home and get punched in the nose by Pittsburgh. I could feel the certainty of that in my gut. We'd be 3-1 but all feeling like we'd just watched these pretenders get exposed again.

Now I think we stand at the first major 2011 crossroad. How do we respond to this loss. Do we come back, beat the Steelers (who don't at all look "right" at the moment) and seize our 3-1 record or do we fall back on our old ways and fall to 2-2 instead?

I predict 3-1 and everybody is pumped for Oakland coming to town. That game will be tougher than Pittsburgh probably.

Rey
09-26-2011, 12:35 PM
I don't like any loss. I don't like to lose, period, the end.

But...

This isn't the type of loss that makes me believe that we can't beat good teams. I don't feel like we suck as a team because of this loss.

beerlover
09-26-2011, 12:40 PM
I disagree, this was a bad loss. We had them in the redzone four times & settled for FG's, Texans let the Saints off the hook & found a respectable way to lose? :vincepalm:

Hervoyel
09-26-2011, 12:46 PM
I disagree, this was a bad loss. We had them in the redzone four times & settled for FG's, Texans let the Saints off the hook & found a respectable way to lose? :vincepalm:

We let em' off the hook?

Does that mean.....

ThaShark316
09-26-2011, 01:06 PM
I don't like any loss. I don't like to lose, period, the end.

But...

This isn't the type of loss that makes me believe that we can't beat good teams. I don't feel like we suck as a team because of this loss.

Basically what the OP was getting at. This sucks, but it doesn't mean we can't right some wrongs and win games similar to this. (PIT, TB, BAL, OAK, ATL)

badboy
09-26-2011, 01:09 PM
Instead of blaming the Texans, give the Saints their due. It's not like they are some crappy team that won't put up a fight. I think all this "blame game" mentality by fans is bit much. The Saints are arguable one of the 2-3 best teams in the NFL. And while I don't buy into so-called 'moral victories', I do buy into seeing tendencies with our team that indicate that they are not the same Texans of the past 9 years.True, but they are not a team that we could not beat and now they realize it too. If I think we can beat a team it is hard for me after to say well it is ok because they were good. I focus on my team & what we could have done better and I think this is how coaches think also. Did this game wreck our season? No but it should have been a win & our guys know it also.

Identifying mistakes or how a player/team gets better is what brings a championship to Houston. I am not for trashing anyone but criticism is good.

bckey
09-26-2011, 01:15 PM
I don't like any loss and I really don't like the losses that the Texans get when they clearly should have won. The Texans have Pittsburgh, Oakland, Baltimore and Tennessee coming up. They could easily win all those games and just as easily lose all those games. That is the kind of team the Texans have. How embarrassing would it be if the Texans failed to win the division this year or win it with a lousy record like the Seahawks did last year. I hope the Saints game turns out to be a wake up call for the Texans. It remains to be seen. If they are 5-7 after 12 games.....Ugghh.

badboy
09-26-2011, 01:21 PM
We let em' off the hook?

Does that mean.....Just what Beerlover said, we sat on their necks for 3 1/2 quarters and them "ran outta gas" or let em off hook. Now we can make ourselve feel better with euphimisms or take this loss into our belly and not forget it. Use it to build anger and play better and harder. SOme of it is players like Allen and KJ. Some of it is different things like Schaub's accuracies. We need to move on to next day but forget nothing.

Hervoyel
09-26-2011, 01:25 PM
Just what Beerlover said, we sat on their necks for 3 1/2 quarters and them "ran outta gas" or let em off hook. Now we can make ourselve feel better with euphimisms or take this loss into our belly and not forget it. Use it to build anger and play better and harder. SOme of it is players like Allen and KJ. Some of it is different things like Schaub's accuracies. We need to move on to next day but forget nothing.


Actually I was looking for "They are who we thought they were" and maybe a cool Dennis Green picture.

I expect them to do just that. I think we'll be 3-1 at the quarter mark and that's perfectly fine with me.

Mr. Texan
09-26-2011, 01:31 PM
Texans let the Saints off the hook

They are who we thought they were

http://nflspinzone.com/files/2010/09/over.jpg

:kitten:

Double Barrel
09-26-2011, 01:44 PM
Just what Beerlover said, we sat on their necks for 3 1/2 quarters and them "ran outta gas" or let em off hook. Now we can make ourselve feel better with euphimisms or take this loss into our belly and not forget it. Use it to build anger and play better and harder. SOme of it is players like Allen and KJ. Some of it is different things like Schaub's accuracies. We need to move on to next day but forget nothing.

What number are you on the team again? :um: j/k!

Seriously, bro', we are fans. We watch and react. All this "identifying mistakes" and "build anger and play better and harder" from fans is laughable. No offense to you in any way, but it's not like we have even the slightest "ripple in the pond" of an impact on the outcomes of games. Euphemisms go both ways, as you can make yourself feel worse with them, as well.

I have no doubt that Texans players wanted to win the game. Both teams made mistakes and had opportunities. And I have no doubt that Texans coaches and players will break it down and work on mistakes.

But the hand-wringing and knee jerking from the fan base is what we - as fans - can control. This is not a loss that means that our team is a lost cause. Does anyone actually expect a 19-0 season from the Texans? I hope the answer is "of course not". And with that said, we have a choice - as fans - to perceive. And my perception is not going to dwell on the negative, because we have a solid team with lots of potential.

Now onward and upward to the Steelers. They are going to want to kick some ass, too, so at least we have a homefield crowd to help our defense. That is something fans can control, and being negative all week will not be a positive contribution to that cause.

:texflag:

Grams
09-26-2011, 02:04 PM
Now onward and upward to the Steelers. They are going to want to kick some ass, too, so at least we have a homefield crowd to help our defense. That is something fans can control, and being negative all week will not be a positive contribution to that cause.

:texflag:



We lost to a good team. Bring on the Steelers!!!!

jaayteetx
09-26-2011, 02:07 PM
When KW caught the TD pass, I thought "We have to win this game, and this is our year. That never happens for us."

Not me, I was hoping but deep down I knew the Saints were gonna do what they did...march right down the damn field.

beerlover
09-26-2011, 02:15 PM
They are who we thought they were

http://nflspinzone.com/files/2010/09/over.jpg

:kitten:

I knew if I led someone would follow, eventually connecting the dots :kitten:

signed, off the hook :pirate:

rush2112mn
09-26-2011, 04:44 PM
I can deal with, am I happy no, but am I throwing a fit like last years heartbreaking loss no. It's early in the year, we are making improvements in all areas and continue to get better. I fully expected that we could come out 2-2 after the first 4 games. We have all talked about how front loaded our schedule this year with the steelers, raiders, and ravens all coming up.

There are a lot more games to come, it's done let's move on.

I agree...its one of 16.
I just felt we had them on the ropes in the 1st half and could not put that "foot on the neck" and strangle them.
Killer instinct....that is one thing this team needs to do......put the other team away.....bury them......do not give them any hope......

silvrhand
09-26-2011, 05:04 PM
I agree...its one of 16.
I just felt we had them on the ropes in the 1st half and could not put that "foot on the neck" and strangle them.
Killer instinct....that is one thing this team needs to do......put the other team away.....bury them......do not give them any hope......

This is what I think Kubiak's and Wade's biggest issue is, they don't seem to have that killer instinct when it comes to finishing off opponents.

beerlover
09-27-2011, 02:22 PM
It's just one loss, but it stirred uneasy feelings because good teams aren't supposed to blow nine-point leads late in the game. Teams reveal themselves a week at a time during an NFL season, and with the Steelers, Raiders and Ravens just ahead on the Texans' schedule, we won't have to wait long for answers.

richard.justice@chron.com


exactly three more games is how long we have to wait, just throw out the previous seasons 160 games, because well.... those where different teams & why this wasn't that bad of loss :slapfight: