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Showtime100
09-18-2011, 06:54 PM
Jeezus Jacoby; How f#cking hard is it to run FORWARD when you catch the ball??

You're supposed to be enjoying your birthday weekend!

Kimmy
09-18-2011, 06:56 PM
You're supposed to be enjoying your birthday weekend!

LOL I did enough enjoying last night with my very good friend Mr Patron. Thank goodness it was a late game today :)

Showtime100
09-18-2011, 06:56 PM
i love ben tate, no homo

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r65/ShowtimeN15580/Pet%20Funny%20Misc/Graphics-36-5FO92T9CM5.jpg

Sorry, I just the opportunuity......and I took it. :D

Mr. Texan
09-18-2011, 06:56 PM
LOL Showtime100 :)

OzzO
09-18-2011, 06:57 PM
and that's another Tate...........


First daaaaaaaaaaaaawwnnnnnnnn

Section516
09-18-2011, 06:57 PM
Ben Tate got crazy eyes

JaneDoe
09-18-2011, 06:57 PM
Tate for the first down. Just need a couple more....

TexanBacker93
09-18-2011, 06:57 PM
Miami's gonna need those timeouts. We complain about our coaching staff, but Miami's coaches are freakin' horrendous.

They did think to run some delay runs when we were being aggressive. Can't think of Kubiak doing something like that.

Lucky
09-18-2011, 06:57 PM
i love ben tate, no homo
Thanks for the clarification. I've become fond of him, myself. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

TexanSam
09-18-2011, 06:58 PM
Damn. 2nd and 12...do you pass here?

axman40
09-18-2011, 06:59 PM
Went to the well one too many times.

mexican_texan
09-18-2011, 06:59 PM
Remember when Ron Dayne was our starting RB? Ahman Green? Jonathan Wells?

I like our corps this year, our 3rd stringer is one of the best backs we've had.

Showtime100
09-18-2011, 06:59 PM
Damn. 2nd and 12...do you pass here?

Hows about that 3rd and 8 call. I don't like the prevent offense.

OzzO
09-18-2011, 06:59 PM
Damn. 2nd and 12...do you pass here?

nope, and not and 3rd and 8 either... but they did take care of the clock some. Come on Deeeeeeeeeee

JaneDoe
09-18-2011, 07:00 PM
Tackle him, dadgumit!

dinkatoid
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
We did run 5 mins off the clock and force the Dolphins to use a time out. I would say that is a pretty solid possession. Now we can sell out on the pass and tee off on Henne...

TexanSam
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
Remember when Ron Dayne was our starting RB? Ahman Green? Jonathan Wells?

I like our corps this year, our 3rd stringer is one of the best backs we've had.

Stacey Mack? Vernand Morency? Wali Lundy? We've had some bad backs in our history.

axman40
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
A sack in crunch time

JaneDoe
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
There ya go Antonio! Perfect time for a sack!

OzzO
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
we currently have the largest lead of the afternoon games.

Smith!!!!

TexanBacker93
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
'bout time!!!

Ryan
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
Smith!

DexmanC
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
Antonio SMIFF

Dutchrudder
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
Smith earning his paycheck.

TexanSam
09-18-2011, 07:01 PM
3rd and 19! Let's do defense!!!

SAMURAITEXAN
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
Antonio!!

Go Texans!!!

mexican_texan
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
Stacey Mack? Vernand Morency? Wali Lundy? We've had some bad backs in our history.

The hipster in me wants a Vernand Morency jersey.

Ryan
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
JJ Swatt!

OzzO
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
WATT?!??!?!!?!? Hands up!

JaneDoe
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
JJ got great hands.....for the ball....

Nawzer
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
Rejected by Watt!!! D-line showing some life finally.

Kimmy
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
WATT! My what very long arms you have :)

Section516
09-18-2011, 07:02 PM
Watt..again. Wow

TexanBacker93
09-18-2011, 07:03 PM
Watt the F??? Nice job!!

axman40
09-18-2011, 07:03 PM
:d::d::d::d:

SAMURAITEXAN
09-18-2011, 07:03 PM
JJ!!!!

Go Texans!!!

Showtime100
09-18-2011, 07:03 PM
Watt a block! The Wattster, blockin passes. The Wattusi.

Mr. Texan
09-18-2011, 07:03 PM
go for the TD kubiak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :koolaid:

OzzO
09-18-2011, 07:03 PM
Turnover on downs.... now give it to Tate for a TD (he deserves it) and let's get outta here.

Kimmy
09-18-2011, 07:04 PM
What a dumb ass call by Sparano .... Give it to us on the 10?

Dutchrudder
09-18-2011, 07:04 PM
2-0 DIVISION LEADERS!

yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

SAMURAITEXAN
09-18-2011, 07:04 PM
Nice D!!!

Go Texans!!!

srrono
09-18-2011, 07:04 PM
http://www.jezblog.com/images/20090420230902_bighands_earthday_dc.jpg
JJ Watt

Lucky
09-18-2011, 07:04 PM
Another game ball to Wade Phillips. Had the offense been able execute in the red zone, this would have been a blowout.

Norg
09-18-2011, 07:04 PM
Finally Our D holds dem boyz !!!!!!!!!!!!

DocBar
09-18-2011, 07:04 PM
Helluva d stand

OzzO
09-18-2011, 07:05 PM
come on Miami, start that annoying chant again....

mattieuk
09-18-2011, 07:05 PM
Whoop. 2-0. Was an interesting ride, but playoff bound teams win these kind of road games.

Let the real fun begin now!

Austrian
09-18-2011, 07:05 PM
Time for victory formation.

Buffi2
09-18-2011, 07:05 PM
I'm not sure Sparano knows where his team is on the field.

Norg
09-18-2011, 07:05 PM
Heal our wounds and lets get the F outta miami and back home

fiasco west
09-18-2011, 07:05 PM
Wow, Houston we have a defense?

Had me worried there for a moment though, when Joseph goes out our pass defense takes a huge blow. That much is certain.

gafftop
09-18-2011, 07:05 PM
Well the Defense is different from last year. Offense the same. Coach the same. going to be interesting. We are not a shoo in for the AFC South.

TheMatrix31
09-18-2011, 07:06 PM
I'll take it, man. I'll take it.

Showtime100
09-18-2011, 07:06 PM
Sure, Miami had to get out of their game plan to hit quick, but I think our D got a little pissed right there.

Kimmy
09-18-2011, 07:06 PM
Man I feel bad for Foster :( They should have rested him

gafftop
09-18-2011, 07:06 PM
I'll take it, man. I'll take it.

I agree a win is a win.

Mr. Texan
09-18-2011, 07:07 PM
:clap::clap::clap:

Lucky
09-18-2011, 07:07 PM
My Watt very long arms you have :)
Fixed it for you. Rep for the great idea, if not the execution.

Edit: Someone get Kimmy some rep. I can't

SAMURAITEXAN
09-18-2011, 07:07 PM
Tate over 100yrds.

Go Texans!!!

TexanSam
09-18-2011, 07:07 PM
New Houston Texans team finally? We didn't fold!

Kimmy
09-18-2011, 07:07 PM
Kubiak would have been lynched at the airport had he made that 4th down call on the 10 LOL

TexanBacker93
09-18-2011, 07:07 PM
Well, they sacked up when they needed to. Glad to have it, but they need to fix a few things.

axman40
09-18-2011, 07:08 PM
Tate seals the deal!

Buffi2
09-18-2011, 07:08 PM
Good Job, Texans!:koolaid::clap::heart:

Pantherstang84
09-18-2011, 07:08 PM
Who is Tony Soprano (I know it is Sparano) going to cut tomorrow? And Wade takes the headset off.

srrono
09-18-2011, 07:08 PM
http://www.jezblog.com/images/20090420230902_bighands_earthday_dc.jpg


Watt has some huge hands Watt king of Swatts

Mr. Texan
09-18-2011, 07:08 PM
lol wade

RTP2110
09-18-2011, 07:08 PM
An ugly win is still a win; I'll take it!

2-0!!

JaneDoe
09-18-2011, 07:09 PM
Time for victory formation.

Yep. No need to get anyone hurt being greedy.

SheTexan
09-18-2011, 07:09 PM
Needin TATE to score!! My FF team needs it BAD, as well as my nervous system! Damn, this game has really, kinda, sorta, PISSED me off!!


Reality sucks!! We still have a long way to go before we become SB contenters! JMO!

OzzO
09-18-2011, 07:09 PM
23-13. Still not the 4 quarters.... but a little closer. Maybe 2.75 quarters?

WolverineFan
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
I love Wade's sideline demeanor. Can't help but smile when I see him over there wearing Texans blue.

Thorn
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Victory is sweet. :koolaid:

Pantherstang84
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
An ugly win is still a win; I'll take it!

2-0!!

I will too.

Showtime100
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
6- and OOOOOOOOOOOO vs the aquatic mammals.

2-0 on the year. And now.......the hard part.

Nawzer
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Good win. It wasn't pretty and we still have issues on this team, but a win is a win.

DocBar
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Whew.....ugly wins count just as much as pretty ones. Good win on the road.

TdotTexas2Step
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Definitely a lot of things the coaches can take to point out to their players this week, but a good win regardless. Playoff teams win a game or two like this throughout the season.

Kimmy
09-18-2011, 07:10 PM
Needin TATE to score!! My FF team needs it BAD, as well as my nervous system! Damn, this game has really, kinda, sorta, PISSED me off!!

I have Brandon Marshall on mine :hides:

Ckw
09-18-2011, 07:11 PM
I am not happy. This is not the way a playoff team plays. Look at what the Pats did to the Dolphins.

I am concerned.

axman40
09-18-2011, 07:11 PM
TEXANS 23 Dolphins13

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lgra2svzYc1qfcbut.jpg
I love when a plan comes together

Lucky
09-18-2011, 07:11 PM
Like a diamond, the Texans beating the Dolphins is forever.

Air Canada
09-18-2011, 07:12 PM
Needin TATE to score!! My FF team needs it BAD, as well as my nervous system! Damn, this game has really, kinda, sorta, PISSED me off!!

I had Ben Tate, AJ, and Owen Daniels all starting in my FF team this week... Vick is my QB yet to play and Im already up 20 in my matchup :good:

Nawzer
09-18-2011, 07:12 PM
Time to watch Tom Brady now.

TheMatrix31
09-18-2011, 07:12 PM
I liked that the offense woke up on the last Andre TD drive. Good sign. And as shaky as the D was without Joseph and just overall, only giving up 13 points is not bad.

fiasco west
09-18-2011, 07:14 PM
I am not happy. This is not the way a playoff team plays. Look at what the Pats did to the Dolphins.

I am concerned.

A win is a win in the NFL.

Think the Ravens aren't a playoff team? they lost to the Titans. Can't always have pretty wins in fact sometimes winning ugly is a better show that the team has improved.

No way the Texans defense of last year only allows 13 points in this game.

Showtime100
09-18-2011, 07:14 PM
I am not happy. This is not the way a playoff team plays. Look at what the Pats did to the Dolphins.

I am concerned.

I hear you, but I'm trying to keep in mind it's only the second game of the year. This team got better today (I assume). What the Texans learned and saw for themselves, a win on the road after momentum about swallowed them, is a building block for future wins.

I hope. :d:

Pantherstang84
09-18-2011, 07:14 PM
I am not happy. This is not the way a playoff team plays. Look at what the Pats did to the Dolphins.

I am concerned.

The Texans are not the Patriots. Anyone who thinks they are, is delusional.

welsh texan
09-18-2011, 07:14 PM
They got the win which is all that matters.

Hopefully this will be a bit of a wake-up call however, Miami aren't the best but we allowed them to stay in it far too long today.

Plenty to improve upon if we want to get to 3-0 because the Saints would have punished us for our profigacy today.

ziggy29
09-18-2011, 07:15 PM
Thought I was watching another one of those games where the Texans control the first half and take the second half off. Glad to see they showed up when it mattered most. What a difference a Wade makes, apparently...

Naiirb
09-18-2011, 07:15 PM
lol at Reggie Bush 6 carries for 18 yards and they brought him in to be the feature back? :lol:

TexanSam
09-18-2011, 07:16 PM
I am not happy. This is not the way a playoff team plays. Look at what the Pats did to the Dolphins.

I am concerned.

The Pats have also been very good for over a decade now. Playoff teams don't always play pretty. Look at Baltimore today a week after demolishing the Steelers. Playoff teams do buckle down and don't fold when the momentum starts to swing the other way which is what the Texans did in the 2nd half. Our offense came up with a crucial score when we needed it and our defense played well after the Dolphins got it to 16-13.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 07:17 PM
A win is a win in the NFL.

Think the Ravens aren't a playoff team? they lost to the Titans. Can't always have pretty wins in fact sometimes winning ugly is a better show that the team has improved.

No way the Texans defense of last year only allows 13 points in this game.

True. That makes me feel a bit better to think about that.

But our offense looks terrible. We are not a top 5 elite NFL offense like we are led to believe.

Schaub looks like he did back his first year or two with us, Andre is dropping balls again, something he did early in his career but then got to where he caught everything in sight but now looks to have regressed, and we just don't look smooth offensively out there. I mean the Lions look like a better offense than we are!

Pantherstang84
09-18-2011, 07:17 PM
lol at Reggie Bush 6 carries for 18 yards and they brought him in to be the feature back? :lol:

Seriously. Once a bust, always a bust.

mexican_texan
09-18-2011, 07:17 PM
I am not happy. This is not the way a playoff team plays. Look at what the Pats did to the Dolphins.

I am concerned.

Have you ever watched a Steelers game? 11 ugly wins get you in the playoffs.

dinkatoid
09-18-2011, 07:18 PM
No way the dolphins get clobbered that bad 2x in a row. Their D is much better than it was in game 1, and they proved it. However, we did not get carved up as much as NE did, held when we had to, and got an ugly win. That is all that matters. Live to fight another day. Now we have more tape and more things to fix.

Air Canada
09-18-2011, 07:18 PM
They got the win which is all that matters.

Hopefully this will be a bit of a wake-up call however, Miami aren't the best but we allowed them to stay in it far too long today.

Plenty to improve upon if we want to get to 3-0 because the Saints would have punished us for our profigacy today.

That's the thing with the Texans though.. We respond differently to different matchups... like I think our offense puts up more points against the Saints and struggles less offensively for whatever reason, but our D will have their hands full.

ANYWAYS I'M A LITTLE THIRSTY... MMMMMMM :good:..... :koolaid:

LikeMike
09-18-2011, 07:19 PM
Only gave up 20 points so far - that should equal one on the best, if not the best D in the league. Alright, we had some help with a blocked and a missed FG.

Yay for the win - but there are still some areas of concern:

1. Run D
2. Red Zone O
3. Consistency on O
4. Injuries (our D got a lot worse when JJ had to get off the field)

But this years start feels way more legit than last years start.

fiasco west
09-18-2011, 07:19 PM
True. That makes me feel a bit better to think about that.

But our offense looks terrible. We are not a top 5 elite NFL offense like we are led to believe.

Schaub looks like he did back his first year or two with us, Andre is dropping balls again, something he did early in his career but then got to where he caught everything in sight but now looks to have regressed, and we just don't look smooth offensively out there. I mean the Lions look like a better offense than we are!

I still think this is a top 5 offense. One bad game is not washing that away. Foster is still hurt and lets give some credit to the defense we played. I think Kubes got a little pass happy in the middle of the game and he let their pass rush just tee off on Schaub.

Sometimes I wonder why we don't do a lot of screen plays to slow them down a bit.

Dutchrudder
09-18-2011, 07:21 PM
The Texans' defense won us this game. Lots of great playing, but still concerned about our run D. Good game, go home and regroup for the Saints. That's going to be a tough game.

Pantherstang84
09-18-2011, 07:21 PM
That's the thing with the Texans though.. We respond differently to different matchups... like I think our offense puts up more points against the Saints and struggles less offensively for whatever reason, but our D will have their hands full.

ANYWAYS I'M A LITTLE THIRSTY... MMMMMMM :good:..... :koolaid:

Pass it around and don't hog it all.

Showtime100
09-18-2011, 07:21 PM
The Texans are not the Patriots. Anyone who thinks they are, is delusional.

That's right. Last time Houston played them we beat their punk ass. :D :D

TheMatrix31
09-18-2011, 07:21 PM
Walter being gone is an underrated factor in us not looking as fluid.

TexanSam
09-18-2011, 07:21 PM
True. That makes me feel a bit better to think about that.

But our offense looks terrible. We are not a top 5 elite NFL offense like we are led to believe.

Schaub looks like he did back his first year or two with us, Andre is dropping balls again, something he did early in his career but then got to where he caught everything in sight but now looks to have regressed, and we just don't look smooth offensively out there. I mean the Lions look like a better offense than we are!

You gotta give credit to the Dolphins defense as well. They were one of the top units in the NFL last year. I think their game against the Patriots was an anomaly. Tom Brady is tearing up the Chargers defense as well who also have a good defense.

Norg
09-18-2011, 07:23 PM
The Texans are not the Patriots. Anyone who thinks they are, is delusional.

I know last time we played the Pats we beat them :texans: we are not the pats ... : P

Air Canada
09-18-2011, 07:23 PM
True. That makes me feel a bit better to think about that.

But our offense looks terrible. We are not a top 5 elite NFL offense like we are led to believe.

Schaub looks like he did back his first year or two with us, Andre is dropping balls again, something he did early in his career but then got to where he caught everything in sight but now looks to have regressed, and we just don't look smooth offensively out there. I mean the Lions look like a better offense than we are!

Talk about a 1 game overreaction... AJ has regressed? CHILL OUT... :pop:

Thorn
09-18-2011, 07:24 PM
We won the game by 10 points. The defense really is better this year. I think things are looking up.

Malloy
09-18-2011, 07:24 PM
I missed the bootlegs, how many did we run because I hardly remember any?

Air Canada
09-18-2011, 07:25 PM
Have you ever watched a Steelers game? 11 ugly wins get you in the playoffs.

This is true... The Steelers often have wins just like the one we had 2day... Sometimes even uglier :chickendance:

Norg
09-18-2011, 07:25 PM
I missed the bootlegs, how many did we run because I hardly remember any?

just 1 i think the other bootleg got blown up casue Tate i think didnt block

Norg
09-18-2011, 07:26 PM
This is true... The Steelers often have wins just like the one we had 2day... Sometimes even uglier :chickendance:

If u watch some teams battle it out each week with ugly wins for 11 weeks straight

and this was not a ugly ugly win i think we were up bye 2 scores IMO in the end

Ckw
09-18-2011, 07:27 PM
I guess I should have clarified. The reason we are thought of to be a potential contender is that we are supposed to have an elite offense with now a middle of the pack defense.

So far against weak competition (average at best for the Dolphins), our D looks to be very very good. Like top 10 good. But our offense does not look like the elite offense it was billed to be.

My fear is that the defense begins to get exposed as the middle of the pack defense it probably is and we end up getting torched by guys like Brees and Roesthlisberger. Our hope in this situation is that our D is just good enough to allow our "elite" offense to stay in the game and win.

But after watching two full games and not missing a single offensive possession, our offense looks far from elite. Right now, our offense doesn't seem to be as potent as the Chargers, Lions, Patriots, Packers, Saints, Eagles, and probably Atlanta (if Matt Ryan gets it turned around).

So once again, my fear is that our offense is not as good as advertised. If our defense is better than advertised, then we will still be fine. But if it isn't and our offense continues to play like this, we will be lucky to be a playoff team and if we are, we can look forward to a first round exit.

dinkatoid
09-18-2011, 07:27 PM
I think Miami's D is better than the Saints' D tbh. The saints' D was built off of turnovers, which they are struggling to do without Sharper. They are also vulnerable to the run up the middle, which I assume will mean a good day for Tate.

Norg
09-18-2011, 07:34 PM
With picks and F/a signings all going to the D for at least the past 3 years


and Nothing going to Our O i kinda knew our O wouldnt be in the top 5 anymore

not to say they cant but to stay in the top 5 for the past 5 years with nothing going in new is Impresive IMO

fiasco west
09-18-2011, 07:35 PM
I guess I should have clarified. The reason we are thought of to be a potential contender is that we are supposed to have an elite offense with now a middle of the pack defense.

So far against weak competition (average at best for the Dolphins), our D looks to be very very good. Like top 10 good. But our offense does not look like the elite offense it was billed to be.

My fear is that the defense begins to get exposed as the middle of the pack defense it probably is and we end up getting torched by guys like Brees and Roesthlisberger. Our hope in this situation is that our D is just good enough to allow our "elite" offense to stay in the game and win.

But after watching two full games and not missing a single offensive possession, our offense looks far from elite. Right now, our offense doesn't seem to be as potent as the Chargers, Lions, Patriots, Packers, Saints, Eagles, and probably Atlanta (if Matt Ryan gets it turned around).

So once again, my fear is that our offense is not as good as advertised. If our defense is better than advertised, then we will still be fine. But if it isn't and our offense continues to play like this, we will be lucky to be a playoff team and if we are, we can look forward to a first round exit.

I disagree.

Last week Texans put up 34 pts in a single half. Look at the scores for both weeks, you're lucky to get that for a complete game.

They missed their chances this game though otherwise they easily go for 30 again. It was a 'alright' game against a good defense. One game doesn't take away all they did especially missing possibly their best player on offense in Arian Foster.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 07:44 PM
Talk about a 1 game overreaction... AJ has regressed? CHILL OUT... :pop:

Andre Johnson had 5 dropped passes all of last year. From what I can piece together, he already has 3 this year.

It was a problem early in his career that seemed to vanish and he turned into the AJ we all know and love. It isn't crazy to suggest an old problems, butter fingers, could be coming back for Andre.

I'm plenty chill and quit with the all caps buddy. :koolaid:

This is true... The Steelers often have wins just like the one we had 2day... Sometimes even uglier :chickendance:

This is just hilarious. We are NOT the Steelers. Our defense is nowhere near as good as the Steelers D thus our offense cannot live with making the same kind of ugly mistakes the Steelers can.

Unless our D has dramatically changed, and I mean is now a top 7 defense in the NFL, our offense has got to play better than this to be a real contender.

Every successful team has a persona. Some have great D's with average offenses. Others have great offenses with average defenses.

What are we? If our offense is what it has been against crap competition, then we are a good offense. We aren't elite. If our defense is as good as they have been in the first two games AND they can be this good against real competition like the Steelers, Saints, Falcons, and Ravens, then we will be just fine. But something tells me our defense won't look as good against those teams as they have against the Colts and Dolphins.

If all of the above is the case, then we WILL NOT win those tough games. Our defense either has got to be really good to compensate for our good but not great offense (like the Steelers, Ravens, Jets, etc.) or our offense needs to be great and enter into elite category and compensate for our average to good defense (Saints, Chargers, Manning Colts, etc.).

I have watched plenty of Texans games to know I saw way too much today that was just like what I have watched since Kubiak took over. Poor play calling, an apparent lack of preparation, playing guys that shouldn't be playing, etc.

Is the sky falling? No. But am I concerned? Yes.

vupac1
09-18-2011, 07:54 PM
But after watching two full games and not missing a single offensive possession, our offense looks far from elite. Right now, our offense doesn't seem to be as potent as the Chargers, Lions, Patriots, Packers, Saints, Eagles, and probably Atlanta (if Matt Ryan gets it turned around).



So you're gonna give ATL a free pass on last wk's horrendous showing, but immediately throw our offense under the bus due to today's performance??

That's absolutely ridiculous. Our offense today, probaly considered underperforming compared to its normal standards, was still miles ahead of ATL's offense from last wk. Furthermore, they haven't played this wk's game yet and you just assume that they will turn it around and have them ranked over our offense??

Some of yall just cannot be pleased.

nytexan
09-18-2011, 07:57 PM
We won the game by 10 points. The defense really is better this year. I think things are looking up.

Wow is that ever an understatement. 20 points in 2 games and under 300 yards a game so far. Heck that was given up per half last year by this defense. Even when they're giving up yards they are tough in the red zone and another couple of turnovers today. Next week should be fun to watch.

Air Canada
09-18-2011, 08:00 PM
This is just hilarious. We are NOT the Steelers. Our defense is nowhere near as good as the Steelers D thus our offense cannot live with making the same kind of ugly mistakes the Steelers can.

Unless our D has dramatically changed, and I mean is now a top 7 defense in the NFL, our offense has got to play better than this to be a real contender.


The point was good teams find ways to win games like this.... many playoff teams have halves or games where they struggle offensively or defensively and find ways to take back control and win games... We used to never do that... Today WE DID... Enjoy the caps :user:

CloakNNNdagger
09-18-2011, 08:04 PM
According to many, last week against a decimated terrible team, we looked pretty dang good (at least for a full half).

This week we looked "decent" against an at best average team.

Next week, we will be going against a dang good team. If we extrapolate, we should look............you can fill in the blank as you see it.........and next week, we will be able to fill in the blank as it really is.

No, the sky is not falling and I am glad we won today.........but there are concerns that have gone unanswered.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 08:13 PM
So you're gonna give ATL a free pass on last wk's horrendous showing, but immediately throw our offense under the bus due to today's performance??

That's absolutely ridiculous. Our offense today, probaly considered underperforming compared to its normal standards, was still miles ahead of ATL's offense from last wk. Furthermore, they haven't played this wk's game yet and you just assume that they will turn it around and have them ranked over our offense??

Some of yall just cannot be pleased.

Damn dude, can you not read? I specifically mentioned Atlanta with a clear disclaimer that they are only considered elite if the offense (namely Matt Ryan) somehow turns it around. Let's see how they look tonight. If they suck, they too will be removed from the "elite" conversation just like our Texans.

Doppelganger
09-18-2011, 08:19 PM
The Texans' defense won us this game. Lots of great playing, but still concerned about our run D. Good game, go home and regroup for the Saints. That's going to be a tough game.

I really don't think that can be fixed all that easily. The way a 3-4 fixes a run problem is having a big strong NT who occupies space. Wade likes more agile guys. We may need to draft a space eating NT who can penetrate, a la BJ Raji/Vince Wilfork.

Only other way is to run out to a big lead and force the opposition to pass.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 08:27 PM
According to many, last week against a decimated terrible team, we looked pretty dang good (at least for a full half).

This week we looked "decent" against an at best average team.

Next week, we will be going against a dang good team. If we extrapolate, we should look............you can fill in the blank as you see it.........and next week, we will be able to fill in the blank as it really is.

No, the sky is not falling and I am glad we won today.........but there are concerns that have gone unanswered.

Well said. I don't know how people can't see this.

You'd think with the numerous failures we have endured throughout Kubiak's regime, people would be a little less likely to chug the kool-aid, but it appears people are every bit as ready to bring out their excuses for Gary and his boys.

I'm ready to see this team take the next step. It looked like we had last week, even though we still let off the gas in the second half which I despise, but this week was "meh". I'm ready for us to look like a superstar team. People compared us earlier in the season to the Saints in their Super Bowl season. Just stop it. This Texans offense can't even sniff the jock straps of that Super Bowl Saints offense.

If we are to do anything this year, our defense is going to have to be better than average; in fact, they will need to be unstoppable.

GP
09-18-2011, 08:27 PM
I missed the bootlegs, how many did we run because I hardly remember any?

I didn't see the first 7 minutes of the game because the Bills-Raiders game went long on my local CBS station. In the rest of the game, I don't recall seeing a single bootleg. If there was ONE, I guess I zombie'd out and missed seeing it.

I wonder why that play was never called? Maybe Kubiak wanting to make the Dolphins' defense sit there and wait for it all game long...all the while just drilling Ben Tate into the LOS on running plays? Maybe so.

The 3rd quarter was a complete train wreck for our offense. But the offense in quarters 1, 2, and 4 was looking pretty good to me. AJ was BEASTING.

TheMatrix31
09-18-2011, 08:31 PM
That's why the offense didn't look that good. We barely used the play action rollouts. Our entire offense is predicated on that.

vupac1
09-18-2011, 08:32 PM
Damn dude, can you not read? I specifically mentioned Atlanta with a clear disclaimer that they are only considered elite if the offense (namely Matt Ryan) somehow turns it around. Let's see how they look tonight. If they suck, they too will be removed from the "elite" conversation just like our Texans.

I just find it laughable that you already removed the Texans, based off of today's performance. Even if ATL plays decent tonight, I would think their wk 1 disaster would be enough for someone like you to remove them already, regardless of how they play tonight.

But hold the the press, the Texans got a W without scoring 50 points.. let's go ahead and remove them from this imaginary list of elite offenses!!!

fiasco west
09-18-2011, 08:33 PM
Well said. I don't know how people can't see this.

You'd think with the numerous failures we have endured throughout Kubiak's regime, people would be a little less likely to chug the kool-aid, but it appears people are every bit as ready to bring out their excuses for Gary and his boys.

I'm ready to see this team take the next step. It looked like we had last week, even though we still let off the gas in the second half which I despise, but this week was "meh". I'm ready for us to look like a superstar team. People compared us earlier in the season to the Saints in their Super Bowl season. Just stop it. This Texans offense can't even sniff the jock straps of that Super Bowl Saints offense.

If we are to do anything this year, our defense is going to have to be better than average; in fact, they will need to be unstoppable.

You are being way too harsh on them.

That superbowl Saints team had some ugly wins too. You don't win all of them by dominating even when you are clearly the better team, it could be the other team's day.

I'm sure the Ravens and Chargers both "Elite" teams are jealous of our record. Ravens should have smashed the Titans today and that didn't happen. It doesn't mean the Ravens defense isn't good or that they are not a good team. It happens, teams have a bad day and it happens. But when your team can play bad and they still win? That's a sign of a good team.

badboy
09-18-2011, 08:33 PM
Well said. I don't know how people can't see this.

You'd think with the numerous failures we have endured throughout Kubiak's regime, people would be a little less likely to chug the kool-aid, but it appears people are every bit as ready to bring out their excuses for Gary and his boys.

I'm ready to see this team take the next step. It looked like we had last week, even though we still let off the gas in the second half which I despise, but this week was "meh". I'm ready for us to look like a superstar team. People compared us earlier in the season to the Saints in their Super Bowl season. Just stop it. This Texans offense can't even sniff the jock straps of that Super Bowl Saints offense.

If we are to do anything this year, our defense is going to have to be better than average; in fact, they will need to be unstoppable.

Odd, most people were saying that if Wade could just get D in top half, we would be playoff bound. You think they have to be perfect?

worldlyman
09-18-2011, 08:39 PM
Ah, these Negative Nellies like Ckw.

This is pretty much a game I was expecting.

The Dolphins despite their issues ARE A PHYSICAL team. They punched the Texans in the mouth pretty good in the 3rd quarter on both sides of the line.

What matters is how the Texans RESPONDED. They regained control with a 5 play drive to salt the game away.

As I've said, the other team is paid to fight back. I'm glad the Texans pretty much throttled Henne and kept the Dolphins offense in check despite their 100 yards on the ground.

Isn't this better than some shoot out like the one New England had to win last week vs the same team? Those pretty, high flying pass happy offenses will slow down some as the season goes on.

Do you think Detroit's flashy but still unproven offense will always look good in every environment? (They've got some games up in Green Bay, Denver and Chicago later in the season.)

The Texans have balance. That ability to run the ball is HUGE. It controlled the game when the momentum seemed to swing back to the Fins. Yet, Schaub and AJ will get theirs when needed. The defense makes BIG plays when they are needed, a habit going back to preseason.

All the whining, yet Matt Schaub had a 118 rating and two TD passes, no picks. Ben Tate had 100 plus running yards. Andre Johnson with 93 yards receiving and a TD. The defense got two turnovers.

A good quality, if not perfect, 23-13 victory.

But panic city with some "fans" who can't believe that the Texans didn't dominate every single snap and minute! The Texans aren't worthy, I suppose, because Schaub didn't have 400 yards passing and the offense didn't put up 40 points versus Miami today. Boo hoo.

The Miami Dolphins may not be elite but they're not quite chumps.

TheMatrix31
09-18-2011, 08:42 PM
Good post, worldly.

srrono
09-18-2011, 08:45 PM
Ah, these Negative Nellies like Ckw.

This is pretty much a game I was expecting.

The Dolphins despite their issues ARE A PHYSICAL team. They punched the Texans in the mouth pretty good in the 3rd quarter on both sides of the line.

What matters is how the Texans RESPONDED. They regained control with a 5 play drive to salt the game away.

As I've said, the other team is paid to fight back. I'm glad the Texans pretty much throttled Henne and kept the Dolphins offense in check despite their 100 yards on the ground.

Isn't this better than some shoot out like the one New England had to win last week vs the same team? Those pretty, high flying pass happy offenses will slow down some as the season goes on.

Do you think Detroit's flashy but still unproven offense will always look good in every environment? (They've got some games up in Green Bay, Denver and Chicago later in the season.)

The Texans have balance. The defense makes BIG plays when they are needed, a habit going back to preseason.

All the whining, yet Matt Schaub had a 118 rating and two TD passes, no picks. Ben Tate had 100 plus running yards. Andre Johnson with 93 yards receiving and a TD. The defense got two turnovers.

A good quality, if not perfect, 23-13 victory.

But panic city with some "fans" who can't believe that the Texans didn't dominate every single snap and minute! The Texans aren't worthy, I suppose, because Schaub didn't have 400 yards passing and the offense didn't put up 40 points versus Miami today. Boo hoo.

The Miami Dolphins may not be elite but they're not quite chumps.

great post

Air Canada
09-18-2011, 08:46 PM
Ah, these Negative Nellies like Ckw.

This is pretty much a game I was expecting.

The Dolphins despite their issues ARE A PHYSICAL team. They punched the Texans in the mouth pretty good in the 3rd quarter on both sides of the line.

What matters is how the Texans RESPONDED. They regained control with a 5 play drive to salt the game away.

As I've said, the other team is paid to fight back. I'm glad the Texans pretty much throttled Henne and kept the Dolphins offense in check despite their 100 yards on the ground.

Isn't this better than some shoot out like the one New England had to win last week vs the same team? Those pretty, high flying pass happy offenses will slow down some as the season goes on.

Do you think Detroit's flashy but still unproven offense will always look good in every environment? (They've got some games up in Green Bay, Denver and Chicago later in the season.)

The Texans have balance. That ability to run the ball is HUGE. It controlled the game when the momentum seemed to swing back to the Fins. Yet, Schaub and AJ will get theirs when needed. The defense makes BIG plays when they are needed, a habit going back to preseason.

All the whining, yet Matt Schaub had a 118 rating and two TD passes, no picks. Ben Tate had 100 plus running yards. Andre Johnson with 93 yards receiving and a TD. The defense got two turnovers.

A good quality, if not perfect, 23-13 victory.

But panic city with some "fans" who can't believe that the Texans didn't dominate every single snap and minute! The Texans aren't worthy, I suppose, because Schaub didn't have 400 yards passing and the offense didn't put up 40 points versus Miami today. Boo hoo.

The Miami Dolphins may not be elite but they're not quite chumps.

REPPP :smiliedance:

fiasco west
09-18-2011, 08:48 PM
Ah, these Negative Nellies like Ckw.

This is pretty much a game I was expecting.

The Dolphins despite their issues ARE A PHYSICAL team. They punched the Texans in the mouth pretty good in the 3rd quarter on both sides of the line.

What matters is how the Texans RESPONDED. They regained control with a 5 play drive to salt the game away.

As I've said, the other team is paid to fight back. I'm glad the Texans pretty much throttled Henne and kept the Dolphins offense in check despite their 100 yards on the ground.

Isn't this better than some shoot out like the one New England had to win last week vs the same team? Those pretty, high flying pass happy offenses will slow down some as the season goes on.

Do you think Detroit's flashy but still unproven offense will always look good in every environment? (They've got some games up in Green Bay, Denver and Chicago later in the season.)

The Texans have balance. That ability to run the ball is HUGE. It controlled the game when the momentum seemed to swing back to the Fins. Yet, Schaub and AJ will get theirs when needed. The defense makes BIG plays when they are needed, a habit going back to preseason.

All the whining, yet Matt Schaub had a 118 rating and two TD passes, no picks. Ben Tate had 100 plus running yards. Andre Johnson with 93 yards receiving and a TD. The defense got two turnovers.

A good quality, if not perfect, 23-13 victory.

But panic city with some "fans" who can't believe that the Texans didn't dominate every single snap and minute! The Texans aren't worthy, I suppose, because Schaub didn't have 400 yards passing and the offense didn't put up 40 points versus Miami today. Boo hoo.

The Miami Dolphins may not be elite but they're not quite chumps.

Agreed

I predicted on another forum that the Texans would win by 10.

Dolphins are not a bad team. Seems like some put too much stock in one game last week. Also that this game is all about match-ups. Could be the Pats just matched up much better against the Dolphins than we did considering they can run the no huddle and have great slot guys.

TheMatrix31
09-18-2011, 08:53 PM
I'm actually happy we won in a way that's not "traditionally Texans".

Won without the offense looking very good. We have to win in different ways in order to be successful.

prostock101
09-18-2011, 08:56 PM
All good stuff. This is a game that in the past could have slipped away from us.

It wasn't pretty in several areas but a win on the road when the team is misfiring a bit is a great thing.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 09:01 PM
Odd, most people were saying that if Wade could just get D in top half, we would be playoff bound. You think they have to be perfect?

Only if our offense continues to look like it has, but more specifically our passing offense. Schaub has not looked very good, our pass protection has been horrendous, so I am a bit concerned.

I am not saying our team is screwed. I am simply making the case that if our defense is only going to be a top half, average defense, then our offense is going to have to play better than it did today especially against the top tier opponents.

If our offense plays like it did today against a top tier team, we would get destroyed. That's all I'm saying. Either the defense needs to be better than it has even been and the offense can get by being average some games and great others, or our offense needs to be consistently great and our defense average. If all we have is an above average (sometimes great) offense and an average defense, we won't be a contender.

What I saw today was a defense that looks like it has the POTENTIAL to be a great defense. But we won't know for sure until we play a team better than the Colts or Dolphins. Our offense, especially our passing offense, has looked pretty pedestrian.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 09:14 PM
Ah, these Negative Nellies like Ckw.

This is pretty much a game I was expecting.

The Dolphins despite their issues ARE A PHYSICAL team. They punched the Texans in the mouth pretty good in the 3rd quarter on both sides of the line.

What matters is how the Texans RESPONDED. They regained control with a 5 play drive to salt the game away.

As I've said, the other team is paid to fight back. I'm glad the Texans pretty much throttled Henne and kept the Dolphins offense in check despite their 100 yards on the ground.

Isn't this better than some shoot out like the one New England had to win last week vs the same team? Those pretty, high flying pass happy offenses will slow down some as the season goes on.

Do you think Detroit's flashy but still unproven offense will always look good in every environment? (They've got some games up in Green Bay, Denver and Chicago later in the season.)

The Texans have balance. That ability to run the ball is HUGE. It controlled the game when the momentum seemed to swing back to the Fins. Yet, Schaub and AJ will get theirs when needed. The defense makes BIG plays when they are needed, a habit going back to preseason.

All the whining, yet Matt Schaub had a 118 rating and two TD passes, no picks. Ben Tate had 100 plus running yards. Andre Johnson with 93 yards receiving and a TD. The defense got two turnovers.

A good quality, if not perfect, 23-13 victory.

But panic city with some "fans" who can't believe that the Texans didn't dominate every single snap and minute! The Texans aren't worthy, I suppose, because Schaub didn't have 400 yards passing and the offense didn't put up 40 points versus Miami today. Boo hoo.

The Miami Dolphins may not be elite but they're not quite chumps.

I've been a "fan" (I love the way you put that into quotations) for long enough to know that this team can rip your heart out faster than you premature *I won't go there*.

I've been enough of a homer in the past to last me a lifetime. I'm happy with the win, but I want to see more. I'm not going to fall for this crap anymore. My eyes don't lie and when I see some of the same crap happening this year that has happened to us the last few years (a team that still can't put together 4 full quarters of quality football) then I am going to complain about it.

Yes, there are going to be bad games. Even elite teams have some bad games. The Patriots went 18-0 but had a bad game in the game that mattered the most. It happens.

I'm not upset about us having a bad game. What bothers me is this is a team that is notorious for being incapable of playing 4 straight quarters of good quality football. So far this season, I still have not seen us do that.

Carry on with your celebration.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 09:23 PM
All good stuff. This is a game that in the past could have slipped away from us.

It wasn't pretty in several areas but a win on the road when the team is misfiring a bit is a great thing.

By the way, we have said that exact same thing in years before. It cracks me up the way we throw out that line of "This is a game that in the past could have slipped away from us." For two seasons, we've had games that "could have slipped away from us" that we won.

Exhibit A: Washington Redskins in 2010
Exhibit B: Kansas City Chiefs in 2010
Exhibit C: @ Tennessee Titans in 2009

All those games were early in the season, I was here on the message board for all of them, and the same bull shit you are spewing was being said back then too. "This team is changed!!" "Even though we played like crap for much of the game, this is a different team!" "This was a game that would have slipped away from us last year!"

You know what else those games have in common? They were all played by a team that didn't make it to the playoffs.

But what do I know? I'm just a Negative Nellie!

fiasco west
09-18-2011, 09:33 PM
By the way, we have said that exact same thing in years before. It cracks me up the way we throw out that line of "This is a game that in the past could have slipped away from us." For two seasons, we've had games that "could have slipped away from us" that we won.

Exhibit A: Washington Redskins in 2010
Exhibit B: Kansas City Chiefs in 2010
Exhibit C: @ Tennessee Titans in 2009

All those games were early in the season, I was here on the message board for all of them, and the same bull shit you are spewing was being said back then too. "This team is changed!!" "Even though we played like crap for much of the game, this is a different team!" "This was a game that would have slipped away from us last year!"

You know what else those games have in common? They were all played by a team that didn't make it to the playoffs.

But what do I know? I'm just a Negative Nellie!


The Redskins and Chiefs game are bad examples. Both were shootout type of games where the pass defense was terrible. The defense didn't do much to help win us those games like it did this game.

Air Canada
09-18-2011, 09:43 PM
By the way, we have said that exact same thing in years before. It cracks me up the way we throw out that line of "This is a game that in the past could have slipped away from us." For two seasons, we've had games that "could have slipped away from us" that we won.

Exhibit A: Washington Redskins in 2010
Exhibit B: Kansas City Chiefs in 2010
Exhibit C: @ Tennessee Titans in 2009

All those games were early in the season, I was here on the message board for all of them, and the same bull shit you are spewing was being said back then too. "This team is changed!!" "Even though we played like crap for much of the game, this is a different team!" "This was a game that would have slipped away from us last year!"

You know what else those games have in common? They were all played by a team that didn't make it to the playoffs.
But what do I know? I'm just a Negative Nellie!

That's why we say that... Those games we had a terrible defense and had to rely on our offense to bring us back and steal the win... they also came down to the wire... Those games do not compare to this one... We won it with our defense and the offense made enough plays, but the defense sealed it. How often do you see the Texans kneel out the clock on the road at the opponents goaline... up 10 :kitten: So essentially this is a "different" team in that regard.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 09:43 PM
The Redskins and Chiefs game are bad examples. Both were shootout type of games where the pass defense was terrible. The defense didn't do much to help win us those games like it did this game.

I'm aware. I am very encouraged by the defense. That doesn't change the FACT that this is a team that can't play 4 consistent quarters of football. We won't be a contender until we can do that at least occasionally. I don't expect it every week but when the team is incapable of it, I just can't see how you can consider that a good football team.

Just my opinion.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 09:44 PM
That's why we say that... Those games we had a terrible defense and had to rely on our offense to bring us back and steal the win... they also came down to the wire... Those games do not compare to this one... We won it with our defense and the offense made enough plays, but the defense sealed it. How often do you see the Texans kneel out the clock on the road at the opponents goaline... up 10 :kitten: So essentially this is a "different" team in that regard.

Hopefully a whole lot more.

fiasco west
09-18-2011, 09:51 PM
I'm aware. I am very encouraged by the defense. That doesn't change the FACT that this is a team that can't play 4 consistent quarters of football. We won't be a contender until we can do that at least occasionally. I don't expect it every week but when the team is incapable of it, I just can't see how you can consider that a good football team.

Just my opinion.

I just thought the team played well. Got a tough road win. Won a game we should. Last year this wasn't happening. How many games did we lose that we thought we should have won?

I think we played 4 qtrs of football, the 3rd we struggled some but it happens. To me playing 4 qtrs is more about effort, not going out and playing 4 'Great' qtrs because obviously things are going to go wrong.

I never felt like they were dogging it out there or that they stepped off the gas. Just that the momentum changed. To me a good football team wins and it not like the Texans were lucky to win this one. They slipped up some but when push came to shove showed up to win the game.

Nawzer
09-18-2011, 10:04 PM
I've been a "fan" (I love the way you put that into quotations) for long enough to know that this team can rip your heart out faster than you premature *I won't go there*.

I've been enough of a homer in the past to last me a lifetime. I'm happy with the win, but I want to see more. I'm not going to fall for this crap anymore. My eyes don't lie and when I see some of the same crap happening this year that has happened to us the last few years (a team that still can't put together 4 full quarters of quality football) then I am going to complain about it.

Yes, there are going to be bad games. Even elite teams have some bad games. The Patriots went 18-0 but had a bad game in the game that mattered the most. It happens.

I'm not upset about us having a bad game. What bothers me is this is a team that is notorious for being incapable of playing 4 straight quarters of good quality football. So far this season, I still have not seen us do that.

Carry on with your celebration.

I agree with your sentiments 100% CKW. Some fans (maybe most of them) have moved on from the season we had last year and that's good for them. But I won't forget the season we had last year. It's going to take a while for me to forget the failures of astronomical proportions we experienced. That's why me, you, and I'm sure other fans have trepidation about this team. The defense HAS improved and I'm satisfied with the way they've played. We're 2-0 and I'm excited about that too. But like Ckw said there are aspects of both this game and the Colts game that worries me. The defensive lull in the 3rd quarter where the Phins were doing whatever they wanted is a concern. The offense I feel is still not running on full cylinders and I think the uncertainty with Foster's situation hasn't helped. I see other offenses like the Packers, Patriots, and the Saints and they are clicking on all cylinders offensively. I think Schaub needs to step up his game (specially the next 2 games) and the o-line has to to play a LOT better protecting Schaub.

badboy
09-18-2011, 10:07 PM
Only if our offense continues to look like it has, but more specifically our passing offense. Schaub has not looked very good, our pass protection has been horrendous, so I am a bit concerned.

I am not saying our team is screwed. I am simply making the case that if our defense is only going to be a top half, average defense, then our offense is going to have to play better than it did today especially against the top tier opponents.

If our offense plays like it did today against a top tier team, we would get destroyed. That's all I'm saying. Either the defense needs to be better than it has even been and the offense can get by being average some games and great others, or our offense needs to be consistently great and our defense average. If all we have is an above average (sometimes great) offense and an average defense, we won't be a contender.

What I saw today was a defense that looks like it has the POTENTIAL to be a great defense. But we won't know for sure until we play a team better than the Colts or Dolphins. Our offense, especially our passing offense, has looked pretty pedestrian.Thanks for clarifying & I can accept this view much easier.

XI CMURDER IX
09-18-2011, 10:08 PM
I'm superstitious about gameday thread titles, when the opposing teams name is made fun of I feel like we're going to play badly. AHHH save me

Upon extended consideration, I approve of these thread titles, and pants.

What about next week though?

Ckw
09-18-2011, 10:15 PM
I agree with your sentiments 100% CKW. Some fans (maybe most of them) have moved on from the season we had last year and that's good for them. But I won't forget the season we had last year. It's going to take a while for me to forget the failures of astronomical proportions we experienced. That's why me, you, and I'm sure other fans have trepidation about this team. The defense HAS improved and I'm satisfied with the way they've played. We're 2-0 and I'm excited about that too. But like Ckw said there are aspects of both this game and the Colts game that worries me. The defensive lull in the 3rd quarter where the Phins were doing whatever they wanted is a concern. The offense I feel is still not running on full cylinders and I think the uncertainty with Foster's situation hasn't helped. I see other offenses like the Packers, Patriots, and the Saints and they are clicking on all cylinders offensively. I think Schaub needs to step up his game (specially the next 2 games) and the o-line has to to play a LOT better protecting Schaub.

Great post man and I agree 100%. Rep your way.

Ckw
09-18-2011, 10:20 PM
I just find it laughable that you already removed the Texans, based off of today's performance. Even if ATL plays decent tonight, I would think their wk 1 disaster would be enough for someone like you to remove them already, regardless of how they play tonight.

But hold the the press, the Texans got a W without scoring 50 points.. let's go ahead and remove them from this imaginary list of elite offenses!!!

Atlanta's not looking too bad right now against that Eagles D.

vupac1
09-18-2011, 10:29 PM
Atlanta's not looking too bad right now against that Eagles D.

Well they too have struggled with pass protection, Ryan has thrown a pick, and have had some 3 and out's.. They've been scoring TD's but there D has helped them out alot too...

Sounds like a lot of the same things that you are knocking Houston off your elite offense list, but whatever.. it's your list man

Air Canada
09-18-2011, 10:32 PM
Speaking of ATL... Did you just see Asante? Make that 2 picks :thisbig:

prostock101
09-18-2011, 10:33 PM
By the way, we have said that exact same thing in years before. It cracks me up the way we throw out that line of "This is a game that in the past could have slipped away from us." For two seasons, we've had games that "could have slipped away from us" that we won.

Exhibit A: Washington Redskins in 2010
Exhibit B: Kansas City Chiefs in 2010
Exhibit C: @ Tennessee Titans in 2009

All those games were early in the season, I was here on the message board for all of them, and the same bull shit you are spewing was being said back then too. "This team is changed!!" "Even though we played like crap for much of the game, this is a different team!" "This was a game that would have slipped away from us last year!"

You know what else those games have in common? They were all played by a team that didn't make it to the playoffs.

But what do I know? I'm just a Negative Nellie!

Yes, you are.

PS - Get a grip....

Ckw
09-18-2011, 10:44 PM
Well they too have struggled with pass protection, Ryan has thrown a pick, and have had some 3 and out's.. They've been scoring TD's but there D has helped them out alot too...

Sounds like a lot of the same things that you are knocking Houston off your elite offense list, but whatever.. it's your list man

Well to be honest, I probably wouldn't consider Atlanta an elite offense. They were a better offense than the Texans last year (points matter more than yards), IMO. The only offenses that I believe are truly elite are New Orleans, New England, Green Bay, and Peyton's Colts. The next tier contains San Diego, Atlanta, Philadelphia (possibly elite), Pittsburgh, and now Detroit. We are also in that next tier.

I am of the opinion that to be a contender, the elite teams can succeed with a mid-level defense. Indy, New England, and New Orleans fall into this category. Green Bay is the Super Bowl winner because they have both an elite offense and an elite defense. Philly has potentially an elite offense (if Vick continues the success he had last year) and a top 10 defense (taking into account turnovers). Pittsburgh has a great offense and an elite defense. San Diego arguably has an elite offense with an average defense. Atlanta's future is up in the air just as we are. Do they (and we) have an elite or almost elite offense (it truly is debatable) and how good is their (and our) defense? If the answer is just good for the offense and average for the defense, then I don't believe that team will be a contender. Can anyone name a team that fits the bill? A good offense (not elite or great) and an average defense?

Ckw
09-18-2011, 10:46 PM
On another note, Dunta Robinson is a punk ass thug. I am so glad he is no longer a Texan. He intentionally goes for headshots on players and just plays dirty. The dude is a grade A punk.

Speedy
09-18-2011, 10:48 PM
I am not happy. This is not the way a playoff team plays. Look at what the Pats did to the Dolphins.

I am concerned.

Are you freaking serious? Playoff teams don't win road games?
I guess Baltimore ain't making the playoffs this year then. Some people. You just can't please them.

vupac1
09-18-2011, 10:55 PM
Well to be honest, I probably wouldn't consider Atlanta an elite offense. They were a better offense than the Texans last year (points matter more than yards), IMO. The only offenses that I believe are truly elite are New Orleans, New England, Green Bay, and Peyton's Colts. The next tier contains San Diego, Atlanta, Philadelphia (possibly elite), Pittsburgh, and now Detroit. We are also in that next tier.

I am of the opinion that to be a contender, the elite teams can succeed with a mid-level defense. Indy, New England, and New Orleans fall into this category. Green Bay is the Super Bowl winner because they have both an elite offense and an elite defense. Philly has potentially an elite offense (if Vick continues the success he had last year) and a top 10 defense (taking into account turnovers). Pittsburgh has a great offense and an elite defense. San Diego arguably has an elite offense with an average defense. Atlanta's future is up in the air just as we are. Do they (and we) have an elite or almost elite offense (it truly is debatable) and how good is their (and our) defense? If the answer is just good for the offense and average for the defense, then I don't believe that team will be a contender. Can anyone name a team that fits the bill? A good offense (not elite or great) and an average defense?

Ok, as long as your backed off your stance that Atl's offense was elite, or definitively more elite than ours..

houstonspartan
09-18-2011, 11:25 PM
On another note, Dunta Robinson is a punk ass thug. I am so glad he is no longer a Texan. He intentionally goes for headshots on players and just plays dirty. The dude is a grade A punk.

Missed ATL game. What did Dunta do?

KA4Texan
09-18-2011, 11:32 PM
Me either, Im guessing...... MISS?

Ckw
09-18-2011, 11:39 PM
Are you freaking serious? Playoff teams don't win road games?
I guess Baltimore ain't making the playoffs this year then. Some people. You just can't please them.

Read the rest of the thread. Some people. I guess I can see why they call you Speedy.

TheMatrix31
09-18-2011, 11:51 PM
Well to be honest, I probably wouldn't consider Atlanta an elite offense. They were a better offense than the Texans last year (points matter more than yards), IMO. The only offenses that I believe are truly elite are New Orleans, New England, Green Bay, and Peyton's Colts. The next tier contains San Diego, Atlanta, Philadelphia (possibly elite), Pittsburgh, and now Detroit. We are also in that next tier.




Detroit is in that list after two games and we're relegated to "also in that next tier." after what, three years of amazing offense?

Wow.

GP
09-19-2011, 01:09 AM
That's why we say that... Those games we had a terrible defense and had to rely on our offense to bring us back and steal the win... they also came down to the wire... Those games do not compare to this one... We won it with our defense and the offense made enough plays, but the defense sealed it. How often do you see the Texans kneel out the clock on the road at the opponents goaline... up 10 :kitten: So essentially this is a "different" team in that regard.

I would argue that we should have drove it in for a Tate rushing TD instead of kneeling down.

Yeah, we were going to win the game...but that doesn't mean you "mercy rule" the ending and not try to score. Trying to score, if it fails, still runs out the clock too. And the Dolphins were not going to score 11 points by getting a fluke fumble in that spot (if we had tried to score there) and taking it back somehow.

I am only saying this because I want to see the same sort of "BLEED THEM TO DEATH" mentality that Tom Brady & Bill Belichick employ with the Patriots. When the game was winding down vs. the Dolphins, the Patriots didn't let off the gas...they went for a BOMB with Welker and scored a TD from 99 yards out.

I actually wanted to see Gary turn cut-throat for a second. You think Bill Belichick would have downed the ball from the opponent's one or two-yard line? Fisher wouldn't have. Del Rio wouldn't have.

Being a classy guy is for press conferences. Being bigger and stronger and mercilessly beating down your opponent is what builds swagger, and makes other teams squeamish when they are defending an offense such as the Patriots who will hang 72 on you if you let them.

Disagree all you want. That's your opinion, too. I just wanted to see Kubiak end the game with a statement as we head away from Miami and toward New Orleans. I doubt Drew Brees would have willingly downed the ball in that situation. This is not for show. This is for being better than 31 other teams out there, and saying "You can't stop me. You can't. So get out of the way."

It doesn't make me angry at Kubiak. I'm beyond that now. I just wanted to see a different reaction and a polar-opposite "call" by Kubiak there. I wanted him to make his whole team do a double-take and think "This guy just did that? Damn. Alright then. I can dig that."

Instead, I worry we're all Landry and not enough Johnson (if you know what I mean. Double-meaning intended). Alas, I savor this win and am glad to be 2-0 and not 1-1. 2-0 is goooood. 2-0 > 1-1 every time.

GuerillaBlack
09-19-2011, 03:03 AM
I would argue that we should have drove it in for a Tate rushing TD instead of kneeling down.

Yeah, we were going to win the game...but that doesn't mean you "mercy rule" the ending and not try to score. Trying to score, if it fails, still runs out the clock too. And the Dolphins were not going to score 11 points by getting a fluke fumble in that spot (if we had tried to score there) and taking it back somehow.

I am only saying this because I want to see the same sort of "BLEED THEM TO DEATH" mentality that Tom Brady & Bill Belichick employ with the Patriots. When the game was winding down vs. the Dolphins, the Patriots didn't let off the gas...they went for a BOMB with Welker and scored a TD from 99 yards out.

I actually wanted to see Gary turn cut-throat for a second. You think Bill Belichick would have downed the ball from the opponent's one or two-yard line? Fisher wouldn't have. Del Rio wouldn't have.

Being a classy guy is for press conferences. Being bigger and stronger and mercilessly beating down your opponent is what builds swagger, and makes other teams squeamish when they are defending an offense such as the Patriots who will hang 72 on you if you let them.

Disagree all you want. That's your opinion, too. I just wanted to see Kubiak end the game with a statement as we head away from Miami and toward New Orleans. I doubt Drew Brees would have willingly downed the ball in that situation. This is not for show. This is for being better than 31 other teams out there, and saying "You can't stop me. You can't. So get out of the way."

It doesn't make me angry at Kubiak. I'm beyond that now. I just wanted to see a different reaction and a polar-opposite "call" by Kubiak there. I wanted him to make his whole team do a double-take and think "This guy just did that? Damn. Alright then. I can dig that."

Instead, I worry we're all Landry and not enough Johnson (if you know what I mean. Double-meaning intended). Alas, I savor this win and am glad to be 2-0 and not 1-1. 2-0 is goooood. 2-0 > 1-1 every time.

The Lions didn't even do that against the Cheifs, and they were up 41-3. I wish Kubiak would have ran it in with Tate. But Brees may have downed it. I remember the Saints were in a similar situation against the Cowboys during Payton's first season, and they kneeled it instead of running up the score.

Ckw
09-19-2011, 06:46 AM
Detroit is in that list after two games and we're relegated to "also in that next tier." after what, three years of amazing offense?

Wow.

Look at Detroit's offense and tell me that they don't look like they have an elite offense.

I also don't think the Texans have been as amazing over three years as you have. I mean if your standard is yards, sure they have been impressive. I prefer to look at points scored per game. In that category, the Texans have been average at best to terrible at worst.

Putting up 500 yards a game is all well and good but if you are only putting up 15-20 ppg and don't have an elite defense, you are probably losing.

Rey
09-19-2011, 07:49 AM
Look at Detroit's offense and tell me that they don't look like they have an elite offense.

I also don't think the Texans have been as amazing over three years as you have. I mean if your standard is yards, sure they have been impressive. I prefer to look at points scored per game. In that category, the Texans have been average at best to terrible at worst.

Putting up 500 yards a game is all well and good but if you are only putting up 15-20 ppg and don't have an elite defense, you are probably losing.

Texans have been in or around the top ten scoring for a few years now.

It's the fact that we often fail to score td's early that gets to me. The offense could make life so much easier on the defense if they score td's early in games.

If our offense was elite, that would never have been a game yesterday.

Ckw
09-19-2011, 08:09 AM
Texans have been in or around the top ten scoring for a few years now.

It's the fact that we often fail to score td's early that gets to me. The offense could make life so much easier on the defense if they score td's early in games.

If our offense was elite, that would never have been a game yesterday.

Are you sure we have ever been in the top 10 in scoring

TheMatrix31
09-19-2011, 08:54 AM
9th last year, 10th in 2009.

I don't care what anyone says. This offense is in the upper echelon. So they don't average 30 a game like New England does, but who else but New England does? For us to score 24 points a game, where the burden was SOLELY on the offense to win the game, is utterly remarkable. Not to mention our average starting field position, which had to have been the worst in the league.

Our total yardage last year was third in the entire league. Fourth in passing yards. Seventh in rushing.

We have a Top 10 QB, the best WR in football, and arguably the best RB in football. We have a above average offensive line. We also have a top-level tight end. Not to mention the RB DEPTH. Arguably the deepest RB corps in the league.

But whatever. You guys will do anything to cut the team down. This team is considered by just about everyone to be one of the most dangerous offenses in the league. Detroit is dangerous as hell, but it's been TWO games. Propping up to the same level as us when we've been doing it for years now is catastrophically absurd.

rmartin65
09-19-2011, 09:00 AM
Top 10 out of 32 is not elite. Elite is top 3, maybe top 5. The next 7/5 are the second tier.

TheMatrix31
09-19-2011, 09:02 AM
Top 10 out of 32 is not elite. Elite is top 3, maybe top 5. The next 7/5 are the second tier.

That's just scoring rankings though.

Seņor Stan
09-19-2011, 09:30 AM
Texans won the battles of...

1st downs 19-18
Total Yards 346-306
Turnovers 2-0
Time of possession 34:06-25:54

and....

won by 10 points on the road

I'm not saying there aren't areas of concern...but dang, I'm having a hard time telling wins from losses by reading the message board.

rmartin65
09-19-2011, 09:49 AM
That's just scoring rankings though.

But that is what an offense is supposed to do- score points. I dont give a damn if the offense puts up 600 yards or 200- as long as they score. Look at Cam Newton and the Panthers- over 800 passing yards,and 2nd in the NFL for yards per game, but no W's, because for all those yards they only put up 22 points/game (T-18th in the league).

thunderkyss
09-19-2011, 10:10 AM
Are you freaking serious? Playoff teams don't win road games?
I guess Baltimore ain't making the playoffs this year then. Some people. You just can't please them.


I think this is a good point. We know Baltimore is a play-off team. They came out really strong in week 1, dismantling the 2010 AFC Super Bowl representative.

Week 2 they laid an egg.

We aren't established like Baltimore, we've got work to do, just like they do.


Ckw has a point.... just like everyone of us knows we've got work to do, that's all he's saying.

Speedy
09-19-2011, 12:16 PM
Read the rest of the thread. Some people. I guess I can see why they call you Speedy.

I don't need to read the rest when your credibility was lost after that sentence.

No, the Texans didn't look good yesterday, but they did WIN. At the end of the day, that's the only thing that matters.

Will they beat New Orleans next week playing like that? Probably not. Will the Ravens win another game playing like they did yesterday? Probably not.

Even the New England Patriots have problems. 31st in defense for starters. (BTW, the Texans are ranked #1 at the moment).

So, no, the Texans have problems like every team in this league does, including those that will make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.......well, maybe not Green Bay, but even they will lose a game or 4 down the road that no one expects them to.

Saying playoff teams don't play like the Texans did yesterday is a dumb statement. Period. See Pittsburgh and Atlanta in week 1 and Baltimore yesterday. This is the NFL. Any team can rise up any given Sunday. The Texans didn't play as well as we want, but they played well enough to win. Baltimore and the Eagles dream team didn't.

HJam72
09-19-2011, 02:30 PM
I don't see how anything about this game will matter in January except that we won it.

vupac1
09-19-2011, 02:32 PM
I would argue that we should have drove it in for a Tate rushing TD instead of kneeling down.

Yeah, we were going to win the game...but that doesn't mean you "mercy rule" the ending and not try to score. Trying to score, if it fails, still runs out the clock too. And the Dolphins were not going to score 11 points by getting a fluke fumble in that spot (if we had tried to score there) and taking it back somehow.

I am only saying this because I want to see the same sort of "BLEED THEM TO DEATH" mentality that Tom Brady & Bill Belichick employ with the Patriots. When the game was winding down vs. the Dolphins, the Patriots didn't let off the gas...they went for a BOMB with Welker and scored a TD from 99 yards out. I actually wanted to see Gary turn cut-throat for a second. You think Bill Belichick would have downed the ball from the opponent's one or two-yard line? Fisher wouldn't have. Del Rio wouldn't have.

Being a classy guy is for press conferences. Being bigger and stronger and mercilessly beating down your opponent is what builds swagger, and makes other teams squeamish when they are defending an offense such as the Patriots who will hang 72 on you if you let them.

Disagree all you want. That's your opinion, too. I just wanted to see Kubiak end the game with a statement as we head away from Miami and toward New Orleans. I doubt Drew Brees would have willingly downed the ball in that situation. This is not for show. This is for being better than 31 other teams out there, and saying "You can't stop me. You can't. So get out of the way."

It doesn't make me angry at Kubiak. I'm beyond that now. I just wanted to see a different reaction and a polar-opposite "call" by Kubiak there. I wanted him to make his whole team do a double-take and think "This guy just did that? Damn. Alright then. I can dig that."

Instead, I worry we're all Landry and not enough Johnson (if you know what I mean. Double-meaning intended). Alas, I savor this win and am glad to be 2-0 and not 1-1. 2-0 is goooood. 2-0 > 1-1 every time.

They did not "go for a BOMB"

Brady threw a 15 yard pass from the shadow of his own goalpost into 1 on 1 coverage

Welker stiff-armed and YAC'd his way to runing up the score, but the play call wasn't necessarily intended to do so.. they were just trying to move the ball out of their own endzone.. power run game just isn't their strength

GP
09-20-2011, 11:34 AM
They did not "go for a BOMB"

Brady threw a 15 yard pass from the shadow of his own goalpost into 1 on 1 coverage

Welker stiff-armed and YAC'd his way to runing up the score, but the play call wasn't necessarily intended to do so.. they were just trying to move the ball out of their own endzone.. power run game just isn't their strength

Was it a 5-yard curl? No.

Was it a 5-yard slant? No.

It was as vertical of a play as they come, bro.

Don't do this. It makes you look petty. You're picking a fight and it's obvious.

It was an intentionally VERTICAL pass play. A bomb. They were not looking to get the ball right at the first down marker or something, it was designed to go the distance.

thunderkyss
09-20-2011, 12:28 PM
It was an intentionally VERTICAL pass play. A bomb. They were not looking to get the ball right at the first down marker or something, it was designed to go the distance.

To Wes Welker?

They draw up bomb's to Wes Welker all the time....

because he is their speed guy.

I think he's right on this one GP, if the play was to get Welker isolated on that corner, it wasn't for any reason other than move the chains. It's not like Belichick said, "Give me something to put 6 on the board..... Bomb to Welker? I like it..... Do it... Do it.."

Allstar
09-20-2011, 02:06 PM
We lead the entire game against the Dolphins, the sky is falling. The Packers struggle with a comeback victory against the worst team in football last year, Packers are still #1 team in the league.

Ryan
09-20-2011, 03:13 PM
So we're 2-0 when we make fun of the opposing team's names in the gameday thread. :kitten:

Brandon420tx
09-20-2011, 03:18 PM
So we're 2-0 when we make fun of the opposing team's names in the gameday thread. :kitten:

AAAHHHH!!! save me save me!!
:club:
:overreact:
:panic:
:firehair::sos:

see page 1

fiasco west
09-20-2011, 04:32 PM
We lead the entire game against the Dolphins, the sky is falling. The Packers struggle with a comeback victory against the worst team in football last year, Packers are still #1 team in the league.

Pretty much. The NFL is all about parity and any given sunday.

You go out and win the game. F the offensive and defensive stats and how dominant you look doing it. This is not college football. All that matters is you win these games.

kiwitexansfan
09-20-2011, 04:44 PM
So we're 2-0 when we make fun of the opposing team's names in the gameday thread. :kitten:

How about the Nawlins Aints?

GP
09-20-2011, 06:34 PM
To Wes Welker?

They draw up bomb's to Wes Welker all the time....

because he is their speed guy.

I think he's right on this one GP, if the play was to get Welker isolated on that corner, it wasn't for any reason other than move the chains. It's not like Belichick said, "Give me something to put 6 on the board..... Bomb to Welker? I like it..... Do it... Do it.."

No, that is EXACTLY what Bill and Tom were doing, TK. "Go deep. Eff 'em. Suck their soul from their bodies." BAM! It's pure Belichick. He remembered what being soft and not going big will do to a person, and once he got on top he ain't ever going back to mercy-ruling people.

You don't go shotgun with no RBs for protection and something like 4 or 5 WRs if you're just moving the chains.

The ball was thrown with Welker never breaking his stride. It was not meant to go at the marker (move the chains). It was meant to break the will of the Dolphins and it worked. Hell, Sparano cut the guy because of it.

Look, this is almost a mirror image discussion as I had with you guys about whether to bat down the ball or go for the interception at the end of a game. I have seen more Cornerbacks this year COME DOWN with the football in their hands rather than batting it down--The most recent example was the Bills-Raiders game. There have been other games I have seen where the CB goes up and secures the ball rather than bat it down.....but yet you guys bash me for daring to say that it was the wrong thing for us to do vs. Jags.

I know a little bit about football. I know what's right and what's not. Batting down a ball when you have a perfect shot at intercepting it is WRONG. And that pass play by Brady was a deep shot, not merely a patterned route designed to get x-amount of yards.

Why is this so hard? Welker is never slowing down, it's an over-the-shoulder grab while he is sprinting as hard as he can...but yet it was solely designed to get a first down? LOL. What the hell ever. You guys are a riot.

Rey
09-20-2011, 06:40 PM
No, that is EXACTLY what Bill and Tom were doing, TK. "Go deep. Eff 'em. Suck their soul from their bodies." BAM! It's pure Belichick. He remembered what being soft and not going big will do to a person, and once he got on top he ain't ever going back to mercy-ruling people.

GP teams don't draw up plays for 99 yard TD's....

Also, I still disagree with you on the basic principal of batting balls down. Batting a ball down vs. trying to catch lowers the percentage of anyone catching it.

I think there was a ball batted in the air against the Dolphins or the Colts. I think it was OD that ran in there and batted the ball down instead of going for the catch. I've seen receivers bat balls that down to the ground many times. Yes it backfired against us when Quinn did it. But it has worked countless other times. You use one fluke play to say that something tried and proven doesn't work and I just don't agree with you on this at all.

GP
09-20-2011, 06:45 PM
GP teams don't draw up plays for 99 yard TD's....

Oh, I guess deep passes to AJ are just "moving the chains," then???

No RB protection for the QB. Shotgun formation. Over the shoulder catch. Never broke his stride.

And this was not "intentional?" Rey, rey, rey......

kiwitexansfan
09-20-2011, 11:19 PM
Oh, I guess deep passes to AJ are just "moving the chains," then???

No RB protection for the QB. Shotgun formation. Over the shoulder catch. Never broke his stride.

And this was not "intentional?" Rey, rey, rey......

Empty backfield, 5 receivers, spread the defense out, is to New England what handing the rock off to AD is for Minnesota.

The best and safest way to get first downs.

ObsiWan
09-21-2011, 04:36 AM
Empty backfield, 5 receivers, spread the defense out, is to New England what handing the rock off to AD is for Minnesota.

The best and safest way to get first downs.

This is true. That's N.E.'s strength. They're betting that your D can't cover everyone and that TBrady can spot the guy that ought to be open BEFORE the snap and deliver it to him before your D-line (or blitz pkg) can get the sack.

Worse case: N.E. guy makes the catch but they don't move the chains.
Better case: N.E. guy makes catch & they do move the chains.
Best case: N.E. guy makes catch and the CB blows the tackle & trips up his safety help and N.E. guy goes for six.

thunderkyss
09-21-2011, 09:54 AM
GP teams don't draw up plays for 99 yard TD's....
.

With a Randy Moss on your team, a Megatron, or an AJ..... I can see having that 99 yard scoring play in the play book.

But Welker... I'm not seeing it. Bill's a genius..... Tom's a HOFer.... but Welker isn't exactly the guy you think who could go 99

Perki-Perk
09-21-2011, 11:02 PM
Somebody please start the next game thread with something like, "New Orleans Faints" because, when we put that whoopin on them, the whole city is going to faint!

Ckw
09-22-2011, 01:29 AM
I don't need to read the rest when your credibility was lost after that sentence.

No, the Texans didn't look good yesterday, but they did WIN. At the end of the day, that's the only thing that matters.

Will they beat New Orleans next week playing like that? Probably not. Will the Ravens win another game playing like they did yesterday? Probably not.

Even the New England Patriots have problems. 31st in defense for starters. (BTW, the Texans are ranked #1 at the moment).

So, no, the Texans have problems like every team in this league does, including those that will make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl.......well, maybe not Green Bay, but even they will lose a game or 4 down the road that no one expects them to.

Saying playoff teams don't play like the Texans did yesterday is a dumb statement. Period. See Pittsburgh and Atlanta in week 1 and Baltimore yesterday. This is the NFL. Any team can rise up any given Sunday. The Texans didn't play as well as we want, but they played well enough to win. Baltimore and the Eagles dream team didn't.

The Texans have a long and storied history of finding ways to screw the pooch. Baltimore, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and other teams that have been mentioned throughout this thread have histories (and for our current discussion recent histories) of success and finding ways to win.

Our history has been one of finding ways to lose. I just don't get how many of you can't see that. Have you not done this same song and dance enough times in the past? You wet your pants with excitement over how awesome the team looks, you ignore all signs of disappointment and constantly chime in with the old tired line of "all good teams have bad games," and then you come around and are the first ones sporting the "Fire Kubiak" soap when the team chokes again.

Sorry guys, but I am going to wait until I see this team do something against an actual opponent before I start my jerk off session.

thunderkyss
09-22-2011, 08:07 AM
Sorry guys, but I am going to wait until I see this team do something against an actual opponent before I start my jerk off session.

So why rain on my parade?

I'm sitting here, enjoying my "jerk off session" & you come in here & try to ruin my party.

That's got to be a man card violation.

Ckw
09-22-2011, 09:37 AM
So why rain on my parade?

I'm sitting here, enjoying my "jerk off session" & you come in here & try to ruin my party.

That's got to be a man card violation.

Haha!! As soon as I am at my computer, I have to rep you. That was hilarious.

Anyway, I hate playing this role as in years past, I have been the one that has been the homer. Getting burned the last three years straight has made me a little jaded and probably made me overreact a bit.

My only hope is that the Texans completely shut me up by blowing out the Saints in New Orleans this weekend. When/if that happens, you are all more than welcome to berate me for being such a Debbie downer.

Brandon420tx
09-22-2011, 01:45 PM
Somebody please start the next game thread with something like, "New Orleans Faints" because, when we put that whoopin on them, the whole city is going to faint!

See this is what I'm talking about right here, we haven't even reached gameday and people are worrying what clever gameday title we're going to use next!! Oh the humanity :polevault:

Speedy
09-24-2011, 02:26 PM
The Texans have a long and storied history of finding ways to screw the pooch. Baltimore, Green Bay, Pittsburgh, and other teams that have been mentioned throughout this thread have histories (and for our current discussion recent histories) of success and finding ways to win.

Our history has been one of finding ways to lose. I just don't get how many of you can't see that. Have you not done this same song and dance enough times in the past? You wet your pants with excitement over how awesome the team looks, you ignore all signs of disappointment and constantly chime in with the old tired line of "all good teams have bad games," and then you come around and are the first ones sporting the "Fire Kubiak" soap when the team chokes again.

Sorry guys, but I am going to wait until I see this team do something against an actual opponent before I start my jerk off session.

I don't know where you're getting your jerk off and wetting pants bullshit from my posts. I'm not sitting here demanding the Texans send me my playoff invoice now. I'm simply pointing out that the statement you made about playoff teams not playing like the Texans did last Sunday (winning on the road in the NFL) is an ignorant statement. And I don't need to point out all of the examples again.

And last season and the 8 others before it, don't have a damn thing to do with this season. Nobody is wetting their pants. At least I'm not. I have been around long enough. It's 2 games. I don't care if they won both of them 59-0, there's still a lot of football left, a lot of things can happen.

But that's not saying you can't get excited about what you've seen so far. A defense that is light years ahead of last year's and an offense that is still pretty potent.

The New Orleans Saints have had a much longer history of screwing the pooch. Things change.