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JamesBill
09-14-2011, 09:23 PM
I saw 2 passes in just the first half he erased from the box score with one of them of course being on the controversial D. Manning call.

It was so nice having an actual legit NFL corner out there making plays. I cannot believe it hasn't been discussed more because it is probably one of the things I am most happy about. our two secondary pickups are looking very very nice.

Texan_Bill
09-14-2011, 09:24 PM
I say : WERD!

Kaiser Toro
09-14-2011, 09:25 PM
I saw 2 passes in just the first half he erased from the box score with one of them of course being on the controversial D. Manning call.

It was so nice having an actual legit NFL corner out there making plays. I cannot believe it hasn't been discussed more because it is probably one of the things I am most happy about. our two secondary pickups are looking very very nice.

It's quiet optimism for me. The Colts were a mess last week, and our team was ready to play. I need a little more teeth, before I jump on the bandwagon, but I got my eye on it. :texflag:

Cjeremy635
09-14-2011, 09:27 PM
I thought he played very solid and thought that personal foul call was pure BS. The maturity and leadership he brings to that secondary are going to be priceless as well. He's off to a great career here, hopefully a lengthy one.

Texan_Bill
09-14-2011, 09:31 PM
It's quiet optimism for me. The Colts were a mess last week, and our team was ready to play. I need a little more teeth, before I jump on the bandwagon, but I got my eye on it. :texflag:

BS KT, you're on the wagon. Albeit cautious, but you like what you've seen thus far!!

Kaiser Toro
09-14-2011, 09:32 PM
BS KT, you're on the wagon. Albeit cautious, but you like what you've seen thus far!!

I was there on Sunday, I ain't blind brutha! :texflag:

JamesBill
09-14-2011, 09:34 PM
It's quiet optimism for me. The Colts were a mess last week, and our team was ready to play. I need a little more teeth, before I jump on the bandwagon, but I got my eye on it. :texflag:

But their receivers are not the train wreck their offensive line is, which makes it perplexing to me that our defensive line is the one getting all the praise.

JJ took 6 points off the scoreboard and the Colts had to PUNT!

Texan_Bill
09-14-2011, 09:34 PM
I was there on Sunday, I ain't blind brutha! :texflag:

Ya know, at the end of the day..... Yeah, I saw the same thing.

Kaiser Toro
09-14-2011, 09:43 PM
But their receivers are not the train wreck their offensive line is, which makes it perplexing to me that our defensive line is the one getting all the praise.

JJ took 6 points off the scoreboard and the Colts had to PUNT!

I am not going to sit here and tell you JJ did not get it done on Sunday, nor do I wish an ounce of ill will on him in his efforts. This is the tenth season, I am guarded, but loving what I am seeing to date. For me, the secondary and the front seven are not getting extra love as of yet. But if this energy and execution remain, the story should just write itself.

thunderkyss
09-14-2011, 09:50 PM
I think maybe we should wait on the Joseph praise.

Overall, a good game. maybe half a dozen plays where he made mistakes he shouldn't have.

Everyone gets beat, I know. But to me he looks like he's still getting settled in, sync'ing with his new team mates........

DocBar
09-14-2011, 10:41 PM
It's quiet optimism for me. The Colts were a mess last week, and our team was ready to play. I need a little more teeth, before I jump on the bandwagon, but I got my eye on it. :texflag:That pass by Collins was PERFECT!! In years past, that was a touchdown on a blown coverage. This week should serve as a good tuneup for rolling to a win in New Orleans.

texanhead08
09-14-2011, 10:48 PM
It was also nice to see our safeties around the ball on those pass attempts too.

Rey
09-14-2011, 11:27 PM
Joseph is a gambler. He needs to have a good relationship/understanding with the safeties.

When there is a blitz on Joseph is going to jump the first move the receiver makes. The safeties have to have his back if he is going to do that.

The overthrown ball to garçon in the endzone was a perfect example of that.

Rey
09-14-2011, 11:29 PM
Joseph is a gambler. He needs to have a good relationship/understanding with the safeties.

The overthrown ball to garçon in the endzone was a perfect example of that

When there is a blitz on Joseph is going to jump the first move the receiver makes. The safeties have to have his back if he is going to do that. That or the blitz needs to get there. If Collins feels more comfortable that was six. But because we were on his ass all day and he had t played a lot of football with those receivers he overthrew it.

gary
09-14-2011, 11:35 PM
I hope he also makes Jackson a better player too.

DocBar
09-14-2011, 11:50 PM
Joseph is a gambler. He needs to have a good relationship/understanding with the safeties.

When there is a blitz on Joseph is going to jump the first move the receiver makes. The safeties have to have his back if he is going to do that.

The overthrown ball to garçon in the endzone was a perfect example of that.Finally we have a CB who understands this and can develope a relationship with said safeties. It beats the hell out of one that marveled at disguising coverages after his 4-5 yr in the league.

TimeKiller
09-15-2011, 08:41 AM
I am not going to sit here and tell you JJ did not get it done on Sunday, nor do I wish an ounce of ill will on him in his efforts. This is the tenth season, I am guarded, but loving what I am seeing to date. For me, the secondary and the front seven are not getting extra love as of yet. But if this energy and execution remain, the story should just write itself.

Check your facts: It's his 6th season, he's 27 years old.


I appreciate his play but I don't think it's getting much run because 1. It was the "Manningless Colts" like we've heard about a million-billion times 2. the Defense as a unit is going to get most of the praise and 3. this is EXACTLY what he was advertised as....so it's not like it's a big surprise. I mean, it's really nice to have a real CB facing up to Reggie Wayne but this is what we asked for.

otisbean
09-15-2011, 08:45 AM
I think he meant it's the Texans 10th season, not JJ's 10th season.

HJam72
09-15-2011, 08:48 AM
I just realized we have 3 JJs. One's high WATTage.

TimeKiller
09-15-2011, 09:01 AM
I think he meant it's the Texans 10th season, not JJ's 10th season.

Ah. Muh bad.

I just realized we have 3 JJs. One's high WATTage.

JJ- the original. Jacoby Jones.
J.J. - Watt. Abbreviation included.
JoJo - JOhnathan JOseph

Problem solved! Interesting coincidence though.

thunderkyss
09-15-2011, 10:07 AM
It was also nice to see our safeties around the ball on those pass attempts too.

I think the biggest difference in our pass coverage last week, was that the LBs were involved. Redirecting recievers, clogging the passing lanes.

& I still say Mario Williams is our best coverage LB. There was one play where he dropped into zone, then when the TE cut behind him, Mario was able to "sense" the route and stayed with him... until Mario saw the screen or rb or whoever it was with the ball attack the LOS.

Playoffs
09-15-2011, 10:51 AM
JJ- the original. Jacoby Jones.
J.J. - Watt. Abbreviation included.
JoJo - JOhnathan JOseph

Problem solved! Interesting coincidence though.
Or Jacoby, J.J., and J.Joe. ;)

beerlover
09-15-2011, 11:37 AM
Can't wait to see match-up on Marshall. Henne is not that accurate under pressure so I'm calling for Jonathan Joseph first pick, week two as a Texan.

Collins throws a better deep ball (Garcon break-up w/Manning) while Henne dumps shallow routes & short out patterns (which is where Joseph will probably jump on one). One of many interesting & fascinating Texans to follow this season. :shades:

Rey
09-15-2011, 11:49 AM
Can't wait to see match-up on Marshall. Henne is not that accurate under pressure so I'm calling for Jonathan Joseph first pick, week two as a Texan.

Collins throws a better deep ball (Garcon break-up w/Manning) while Henne dumps shallow routes & short out patterns (which is where Joseph will probably jump on one). One of many interesting & fascinating Texans to follow this season. :shades:

Agreed on all points.

Especially about Joseph jumping the route...That's what he does...

Probably gonna cost him some, but he will come up with some INT's this season...

b0ng
09-15-2011, 06:09 PM
I like JoJo for Joseph's nickname.

Rey
09-15-2011, 06:16 PM
I like JoJo for Joseph's nickname.

A lot of times I just call him Jo.

JamesBill
09-15-2011, 07:25 PM
No matter what happens on Sunday, Johnathan Joseph is the best corner we have ever had and Danieal Manning is the best safety.

It makes me smile.

HJam72
09-15-2011, 07:28 PM
I think the biggest difference in our pass coverage last week, was that the LBs were involved. Redirecting recievers, clogging the passing lanes.

& I still say Mario Williams is our best coverage LB. There was one play where he dropped into zone, then when the TE cut behind him, Mario was able to "sense" the route and stayed with him... until Mario saw the screen or rb or whoever it was with the ball attack the LOS.

Mario for #2 CB!!! :jk:

PS-the corner blitz just might kill somebody. :mcnugget:

TimeKiller
09-16-2011, 08:47 AM
I think the biggest difference in our pass coverage last week, was that the LBs were involved. Redirecting recievers, clogging the passing lanes.

& I still say Mario Williams is our best coverage LB. There was one play where he dropped into zone, then when the TE cut behind him, Mario was able to "sense" the route and stayed with him... until Mario saw the screen or rb or whoever it was with the ball attack the LOS.

Oh, come on, dropping twice a game barely qualifies him as a LB, let alone the best coverage LBer. Which is Barwin anyway.....

ThaShark316
09-16-2011, 11:02 AM
Mario for #2 CB!!! :jk:

PS-the corner blitz just might kill somebody. :mcnugget:

Remember D-Rob's CB Blitz....scary. Remember he cracked Chad Hutchinson's helmet? lmao

BigBull17
09-16-2011, 11:20 AM
Remember D-Rob's CB Blitz....scary. Remember he cracked Chad Hutchinson's helmet? lmao

Too bad D-Rob had that whole coverage problem...

AnthonyE
09-16-2011, 11:21 AM
I like JoJo for Joseph's nickname.

A lot of times I just call him Jo.

I believe the players and the fans in Cincy call him J. Jo.

El Tejano
09-16-2011, 11:47 AM
You know what? I'd like to see a pick 6. Can our D pick off a pass and put it in the endzone? It's been since Dunta vs. the Bills in 2006.

ChampionTexan
09-16-2011, 11:53 AM
You know what? I'd like to see a pick 6. Can our D pick off a pass and put it in the endzone? It's been since Dunta vs. the Bills in 2006.

Jacque Reeves had a pick six in '08 and Pollard had one in '09 (vs. Seattle), but two pick sixes in the last four years is pretty ridiculous. Hopefully you'll get your wish.

Allstar
09-16-2011, 09:16 PM
Manning called him JJo in their signing press conference. I like that best.

badboy
09-16-2011, 09:53 PM
I am as cautiously optimistic of Joseph as I am of Mario after the first game. What I'm interested in is we might now see Joseph blitz with Manning to key on that WR.
I hope to see even more solid defensive play after another week under Phillip's coaches. We should have a win against Miami then another week of practice by then, we should have a clear picture of how this defense is going to deliver.