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TimeKiller
09-11-2011, 07:55 PM
1. This offense has unlimited potential. The playcalling, the design, the execution, it's a beautiful thing to watch. Anybody who has anything blatently negative to say this soon after this win needs to take themselves and football way, WAY less seriously. Yeah, they let up. I guess a thirty point win isn't good enough for some folks.

2. The defense is capable of great things and we're seeing some it. The pass rush is sick, the forced fumbles, the effort, the confidence...very nice. As long as the 2ndary realizes their coverages they'll be golden because there isn't much time to throw these days!! I'm not saying they'll juggernaut everyone like this but it's sure nice to see them playing as a unit AND maximizing individual talents. A cohesive group. Who knew?

3. The Colts should be embarrassed with themselves. We all know Peyton is pretty good (and we're all aware that no t.v. analyst will mention the score without mentioning his absence) but it's shameful how good he makes the people around him. I mean....if 1/3 of your offensive gameplan is line up 3 or 4 wide and run a delayed handoff up the middle, that's just some weak sauce. Taking some easy, minor success to lose the overall battle (a.k.a. doing it the whole game and scoring 7 points) is just losing play calling. KERRY COLLINS?!?!?! Get real Polian.

4. I cannot wait to see this team against some real competition. This is gonna be a fun season!!!!

Hervoyel
09-11-2011, 08:00 PM
1, Do it again. Sorry, just want to see an entire season worth of "potential" realized before I start doing handstands.

It's an awesome thing to watch though when they're clicking.

2 Absolutely agree. The defense can become our strength and when you think about that it just blows your mind. Now lets see them do it again.

3. To hell with the Colts. I know Manning is incredible but it's dumb to construct a team around one guy who makes it all work. Your offense stops clicking the minute he goes away. Your defense is designed to play from ahead because you got Peyton Manning. That's just stupid. They deserve everything the get this year. If Caldwell is any kind of coach they will adjust in some fashion but if they stink like this week after week then he and his staff are frauds.

badboy
09-11-2011, 08:46 PM
1, Do it again. Sorry, just want to see an entire season worth of "potential" realized before I start doing handstands.

It's an awesome thing to watch though when they're clicking.

2 Absolutely agree. The defense can become our strength and when you think about that it just blows your mind. Now lets see them do it again.

3. To hell with the Colts. I know Manning is incredible but it's dumb to construct a team around one guy who makes it all work. Your offense stops clicking the minute he goes away. Your defense is designed to play from ahead because you got Peyton Manning. That's just stupid. They deserve everything the get this year. If Caldwell is any kind of coach they will adjust in some fashion but if they stink like this week after week then he and his staff are frauds.May be dumb but it sure worked for a long time.

brakos82
09-11-2011, 08:48 PM
May be dumb but it sure worked for a long time.

Got them a Lombardi... and possibly an interception away from a 2nd.

thunderkyss
09-11-2011, 09:00 PM
Just like every other team, we've got things to work on. We weren't perfect, but (& I'd like to quote Bob McNair on this), "We're headed in the right direction."

Good win. We looked like the team we thought we were against the team we thought they were.

Brandon420tx
09-11-2011, 09:01 PM
My only post game thought (besides pure bliss) is my sig, which is stuck inside my head

thunderkyss
09-11-2011, 09:04 PM
3. The Colts should be embarrassed with themselves. We all know Peyton is pretty good (and we're all aware that no t.v. analyst will mention the score without mentioning his absence) but it's shameful how good he makes the people around him. I mean....if 1/3 of your offensive gameplan is line up 3 or 4 wide and run a delayed handoff up the middle, that's just some weak sauce. Taking some easy, minor success to lose the overall battle (a.k.a. doing it the whole game and scoring 7 points) is just losing play calling. KERRY COLLINS?!?!?! Get real Polian.


The Colts normally look better than this against us.

Kerry Collins normally looks better than this against us.

Dec 22nd @ Lucas Oil. it's going to be a helluva game.

Say that reminds me, play-off tickets cost the same as regular season tickets right? I mean the face value will be the same?

Kaiser Toro
09-11-2011, 09:06 PM
The Texans did what they are supposed to do, if they are the team we think they can be, and that is beat down a bad team. Right now, the Colts are a bad team.

Felt good walking into that stadium with confidence, and then having the Texans make good.

houstonspartan
09-11-2011, 09:31 PM
May be dumb but it sure worked for a long time.

Paul Kuharsky over at ESPN had the same argument. It's terrible logic that goes like this: "Hmm. Building an entire team around one player is bad, but it worked in this case, so it's ok."

That makes NO sense. At all.

Someone in Indy was so caught up in "the moment" that they lacked vision and foresight, and dropped the ball. They should have been planning for this moment, or at least building up both of their lines.

Did it "work" for Indy? Yep. It did. But, so what? What's their plan moving forward?

DocBar
09-11-2011, 09:31 PM
My only post game thought (besides pure bliss) is my sig, which is stuck inside my headWere you watching from that soccerlivetv link? That got stuck on there for about 20 minutes and drove me nuckin futs.
Other than that, I agree with Herv.

ObsiWan
09-11-2011, 09:35 PM
I prefer the Patriot model. When Bledsoe went down, Brady stepped up. When Brady went down, Cassel stepped up. If you do your job, "the system" will work just fine, thank you.

But back to topic...
The game was a thing of beauty with a couple of flaws. Like Halle Berry with a big zit on her nose. I ain't kicking her out of my bed, but we're going to Wal-Greens to get something for that zit.
:D

TimeKiller
09-11-2011, 09:41 PM
The Colts also used to draft spectacular players...who have they drafted in the last 2-3 years that has blown up?

How 'bout special teams? Manning set a nice tone and Jacoby's run was electric! Hartman has nice kickoffs but needs work punting. Although I will say it's nice to see a punter who kicks it 40 yards when he accidently shanks it instead of kicking it perfectly....40 yards....

How 'bout James Casey? Vonta who?!

How 'bout Cushing making plays and big hits?!

How 'bout the secondary actually making things harder for an offense?

Mario made 2 sacks, his trade value has never been higher! Seek trade immediately! If Collins is still in one piece I give him big ups on toughness. He got murdalized.

How 'bout Ryans looking a little trim and not a little slow?!

How 'bout Quin all over the place?!

How 'bout Kareem Jackson not making a fool of himself?!

WHAT SAY YOU?!?!

Hervoyel
09-11-2011, 10:15 PM
May be dumb but it sure worked for a long time.

Got them a Lombardi... and possibly an interception away from a 2nd.


Yeah, how many other quarterbacks have started as many games in a row as Manning? He's been lucky to go 14 years without missing a game.

ThaShark316
09-11-2011, 10:20 PM
Got them a Lombardi... and possibly an interception away from a 2nd.

They were a Marlon McCree fumble away from not having one.

Rey
09-11-2011, 10:23 PM
I don't think the colts are as bad as we made them look today. I don't think they are the worst team in this division.

thunderkyss
09-11-2011, 10:30 PM
I don't think the colts are as bad as we made them look today. I don't think they are the worst team in this division.

I don't think the division is as bad as we've been saying.... Garrard's out..... how bad does that really hurt that team?

Collins/Young out...... Hasselbeck in..... looks like an upgrade to me.

The Colts D looked like the same Colts D that's been beating us for the last 8 years. & I think Collins will manage to beat Tampa Bay, Kansas City, and Cincinnati in the next three weeks. Maybe Peyton will be back in the saddle by then.

hradhak
09-11-2011, 10:31 PM
I think Peyton has made that coaching staff as well as the entire receiving corps and o line look spectacular. I think it's a testament to Manning's ability.

But, yeah, if you put all your eggs in one basket, bad **** happens when you drop the basket

burro
09-11-2011, 10:31 PM
One thing that became abundantly clear today is the extent to which Manning calls the plays and runs the offense. There is obviously a drop in talent between Collins and Manning, but the Colts' offensive play calling was completely atrocious and the pace was slow. The Colts would benefit tremendously just putting Peyton in the booth this year if he is unable to play.

Giant Tiger
09-11-2011, 10:33 PM
Paul Kuharsky over at ESPN had the same argument. It's terrible logic that goes like this: "Hmm. Building an entire team around one player is bad, but it worked in this case, so it's ok."

That makes NO sense. At all.

Someone in Indy was so caught up in "the moment" that they lacked vision and foresight, and dropped the ball. They should have been planning for this moment, or at least building up both of their lines.

Did it "work" for Indy? Yep. It did. But, so what? What's their plan moving forward?

They'll be an expansion team :fingergun:

thunderkyss
09-11-2011, 10:42 PM
One thing that became abundantly clear today is the extent to which Manning calls the plays and runs the offense. There is obviously a drop in talent between Collins and Manning, but the Colts' offensive play calling was completely atrocious and the pace was slow. The Colts would benefit tremendously just putting Peyton in the booth this year if he is unable to play.

Last week, I said we're going to see what Caldwell & those offensive coaches are made of.

This time.... I don't really know if we know.... you know.


I mean there were two early turnovers inside their 20....... we jumped up on them early, I'm sure that knocked them out of their game plan. Then Jacoby popped them for 6....... They didn't have a chance.

Adai gained like 5 ypc, but they had to abandon the run....

We'll see how they do next week at home against Cleveland.

burro
09-11-2011, 11:07 PM
Last week, I said we're going to see what Caldwell & those offensive coaches are made of.

This time.... I don't really know if we know.... you know.


I mean there were two early turnovers inside their 20....... we jumped up on them early, I'm sure that knocked them out of their game plan. Then Jacoby popped them for 6....... They didn't have a chance.

Adai gained like 5 ypc, but they had to abandon the run....

We'll see how they do next week at home against Cleveland.

You have a point, but it's in those situations that Manning excels and ultimately takes over the play calling, stringing together whole drives worth of plays in the huddle, etc. The Indy coaching staff today looked completely lost and incapable of making adjustments to the situation they were dealt. Ironically, these are things a lot of us ragged on Kubiak for last season. It's interesting to see what sheer incompetence of that nature looks like on another team.

ObsiWan
09-11-2011, 11:10 PM
I don't think the division is as bad as we've been saying.... Garrard's out..... how bad does that really hurt that team?

Collins/Young out...... Hasselbeck in..... looks like an upgrade to me.

The Colts D looked like the same Colts D that's been beating us for the last 8 years. & I think Collins will manage to beat Tampa Bay, Kansas City, and Cincinnati in the next three weeks. Maybe Peyton will be back in the saddle by then.
Yeah, but it works much better when they're playing with a lead; the bigger the better. Freeney & Mathis get to pin their ears back and go QB hunting. When they have to respect the run, they aren't that effective. And like most teams, when they aren't getting an effective pass rush, their DBs have trouble.

With the kind of injury Peyton has, I'll be amazed if he comes back at all this year. Especially if they're like 2-8 or 3-7. If he's healthy by week ten and the Colts are 5-5 AND they have a shot at a wild card, then maybe. But I hope they're out of it. I don't want to see him in December with them having a shot to make the playoffs.

thunderkyss
09-11-2011, 11:12 PM
You have a point, but it's in those situations that Manning excels and ultimately takes over the play calling, stringing together whole drives worth of plays in the huddle, etc. The Indy coaching staff today looked completely lost and incapable of making adjustments to the situation they were dealt. Ironically, these are things a lot of us ragged on Kubiak for last season. It's interesting to see what sheer incompetence of that nature looks like on another team.

Those same people will come back to tell you how great/elite our offense was last year.

2BCF
09-11-2011, 11:28 PM
"Right direction" sounds good to me too. I'm reserving my unbridled enthusiasm until after game 8, or 9.

GP
09-11-2011, 11:35 PM
It's easy to understand:

Peyton Manning IS their O-Coordinator. Without him, the real O-Coorindator has to do his job. And if I remember correctly, that used to be Tom Moore who is not there any moore.

Therefore, there's no Robot QB running the show any mo.

They're not totally dead in the water. But they're paddling the boat now.

TexansFanatic
09-11-2011, 11:36 PM
The Texans did what they are supposed to do, if they are the team we think they can be, and that is beat down a bad team. Right now, the Colts are a bad team.


Right. The Colts may well be vying for the services of Andrew Luck who will almost certainly be the first pick in the draft.

TimeKiller
09-12-2011, 08:28 AM
....if 1/3 of your offensive gameplan is line up 3 or 4 wide and run a delayed handoff up the middle, that's just some weak sauce. Taking some easy, minor success to lose the overall battle (a.k.a. doing it the whole game and scoring 7 points) is just losing play calling.




Adai gained like 5 ypc, but they had to abandon the run.....
I don't think they actually have RUNNING plays. That weak screen game/delay handoff game in lieu of rushing doesn't quite hold up without Peyton throwing it around.

One thing that became abundantly clear today is the extent to which Manning calls the plays and runs the offense. There is obviously a drop in talent between Collins and Manning, but the Colts' offensive play calling was completely atrocious and the pace was slow. The Colts would benefit tremendously just putting Peyton in the booth this year if he is unable to play.
Truth.

El Tejano
09-12-2011, 12:50 PM
I just feel like we better have the division wrapped up by the next time we play the Colts. Collins will get in a groove eventually.

JGarza #70
09-12-2011, 01:44 PM
all in all not a bad day at the office.. we lost one to injury but one hell of a game...

Thorn
09-12-2011, 02:30 PM
Part of me feels the same way I did after game one of last season, full of kool-aid and BS and can't wait for the rest of the season. And then, the rest of the season happened. This year is all new again, and I feel much better, but there is something always tugging at the back of my mind that keeps me from getting wild with the kool-aid.

76Texan
09-12-2011, 02:36 PM
Part of me feels the same way I did after game one of last season, full of kool-aid and BS and can't wait for the rest of the season. And then, the rest of the season happened. This year is all new again, and I feel much better, but there is something always tugging at the back of my mind that keeps me from getting wild with the kool-aid.

Thorn, just pour some more whiskey into that Kool-aid! :runaway:

brakos82
09-12-2011, 02:36 PM
Thorn, just pour some more whiskey into that Kool-aid! :runaway:

:lol: Good idea. LOL

Norg
09-12-2011, 02:48 PM
beat a bad team we are supposed to be in that way

I think Miami will give us more of challenge they have a very good D

and have playmakers on O

thunderkyss
09-12-2011, 03:29 PM
Part of me feels the same way I did after game one of last season, full of kool-aid and BS and can't wait for the rest of the season. And then, the rest of the season happened. This year is all new again, and I feel much better, but there is something always tugging at the back of my mind that keeps me from getting wild with the kool-aid.

After game 1 2010, I think anyone could tell we were going to be in trouble. There were many aspects of the defense that you could point your finger to & say, that's going to bite us in the ass one day.

Some of us mentioned that Schaub did not look particularly good & got our asses handed to us....

So, I guess I mean to say, I know what you mean.

At the same time, we were able to look at Foster & say, "we've got something special there." I think most of us are looking at the defense now, & saying, "I think we've got something special there."

The defense was the biggest question mark for most of us..... though Kerry Collins & the Colts may not be a true test, most of us are feeling good enough to take another sip.

Sacking Collins 3 times is about par for what we've done against Peyton in the past. We were able to keep the pressure on him & we won the game.

I think that is a good thing. Most QBs we face this year are going to be in the Kerry Collins tier..... a few in the Peyton Manning class... Brees, Flacco, Rothlisberger, Ryan???

We should be in pretty good shape.