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The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 10:56 AM
So besides Dickerson, they're saying D. Lewis is gone, too.

I kinda liked him behind Cody and Mitchell.

aussie_texan
09-02-2011, 10:57 AM
where did you read that?
that would be a surprise also

Malloy
09-02-2011, 10:58 AM
When's the deadline?

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 10:58 AM
where did you read that?
that would be a surprise also

It's on Twitter.

And:

Scout.com (http://profootball.scout.com/a.z?s=127&p=9&c=2&cid=1102016&nid=5776228&fhn=1)

aussie_texan
09-02-2011, 10:59 AM
thanks

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 10:59 AM
When's the deadline?

Noon today but not sure of the time zone.

silvrhand
09-02-2011, 11:00 AM
Earlier this week:

CB - Antwaun Molden (Source: Patriots claim Antwaun Molden)
P - Brett Hartmann
CB - Jason Teague
FS - Maurice Rolle
SS - Antonio Baker
LB - Matt Marcorelle
G - Darius Morris
WR - Paul Williams

ChampionTexan
09-02-2011, 11:00 AM
Noon today but not sure of the time zone.

Actually, I think it's 3:00 tomorrow afternoon, but I'm not sure if that's EDT or CDT.

Section516
09-02-2011, 11:02 AM
Dang, I saw Lewis in the backfield quite a bit yesterday.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 11:04 AM
Actually, I think it's 3:00 tomorrow afternoon, but I'm not sure if that's EDT or CDT.

Saturday makes more sense. I thought I heard on the Vikings broadcast that it was Noon today and then Sunday they could start signing to the practice squad.

Errant Hothy
09-02-2011, 11:05 AM
Dang, I saw Lewis in the backfield quite a bit yesterday.

Yeah, but that was against non-starting and maybe non-backup level talent.

A player would have had to been huge yesterday for the coaches to notice enough to affect the cut list. This is based on performance and growth during trainging camp.

Pantherstang84
09-02-2011, 11:05 AM
Dang, I saw Lewis in the backfield quite a bit yesterday.

I guess Jamison won out. Wasn't it Lewis that totally blew up the Vikes center on one play that put him almost in Ponder's lap?

Pantherstang84
09-02-2011, 11:06 AM
Yeah, but that was against non-starting and maybe non-backup level talent.

A player would have had to been huge yesterday for the coaches to notice enough to affect the cut list. This is based on performance and frowth during trainging camp.

Actually, I thought they said the Vikes starting line played most of the game last night. I could be mistaken.

Malloy
09-02-2011, 11:25 AM
Actually, I thought they said the Vikes starting line played most of the game last night. I could be mistaken.

That would be nice as it would explain alot of things :)

IDEXAN
09-02-2011, 11:29 AM
Actually, I thought they said the Vikes starting line played most of the game last night. I could be mistaken.
Don't mean to doubt you, but is that really true ? And I guess you are talking OLine ? I mean that's a very significant fact if it's true ?

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 11:50 AM
Don't mean to doubt you, but is that really true ? And I guess you are talking OLine ? I mean that's a very significant fact if it's true ?

I was watching the VIking feed last night and according to what they said, the only starter playing on that offensive line to start the game was one of the guards who'd missed a lot of training camp. I don't think the starting line was playing.

Pantherstang84
09-02-2011, 11:53 AM
I was watching the VIking feed last night and according to what they said, the only starter playing on that offensive line to start the game was one of the guards who'd missed a lot of training camp. I don't think the starting line was playing.

Like I said, I could be mistaken. It wouldn't be the first time.

Malloy
09-02-2011, 11:59 AM
I was watching the VIking feed last night and according to what they said, the only starter playing on that offensive line to start the game was one of the guards who'd missed a lot of training camp. I don't think the starting line was playing.

I remember this, not sure what player though. Mentioned he would play most of the game to get some snaps in.

dream_team
09-02-2011, 11:59 AM
I was watching the VIking feed last night and according to what they said, the only starter playing on that offensive line to start the game was one of the guards who'd missed a lot of training camp. I don't think the starting line was playing.

Yup. I heard the same thing. I think it was the RG. Everyone else were bench guys.

Rey
09-02-2011, 12:00 PM
Didn't have Lewis on my final roster so I'm glad that other guys will get that spot.

Not super surprised about Dickerson, but thought he'd make it.

hadaad
09-02-2011, 12:03 PM
Not surprised by any of the cuts so far. Dickerson had all kinds of potential, all sorts of physical gifts, but wasn't getting it done.

Shaft75
09-02-2011, 12:07 PM
Dang, I saw Lewis in the backfield quite a bit yesterday.

Yeah, but I also remember him being driven on the goal line. He was completely turned by the guard on the play. The way I was taught to play the doubleteam is stay low and create a pile. He did the exact opposite.

With our smaller NT's we are going to have a really tough time producing some goalline stands this year.

Shaft75
09-02-2011, 12:10 PM
I'm thinking Holiday will be our WR5. No one else really stuck out to me. So that's:

Andre Johnson
Kevin Walter
Jacoby Jones
Bryant Johnson
Trindon Holiday

Malloy
09-02-2011, 12:12 PM
I'm thinking Holiday will be our WR5. No one else really stuck out to me. So that's:

Andre Johnson
Kevin Walter
Jacoby Jones
Bryant Johnson
Trindon Holiday

That would be my guess too.

hadaad
09-02-2011, 12:39 PM
Did Holliday show enough as a returner to stick to the roster? Or are they hoping that he'll be one of these small slot guys that can get yards on screens and such?

drunkcookie
09-02-2011, 12:56 PM
Did Holliday show enough as a returner to stick to the roster? Or are they hoping that he'll be one of these small slot guys that can get yards on screens and such?

I dunno, but it's pretty interesting...

I never expected Holliday to even be a discussion come this time...

ChampionTexan
09-02-2011, 01:03 PM
I don't think Holliday makes it as either WR or Returner.

Everyone keeps talking about keeping five WR's, but if I'm not mistaken, Kubiak said not too long ago that it would either be four or five. I wouldn't be surprised a bit if it were AJ, Walter, JJ, Bryant Johnson, and nobody else. I think it's very possible that if we do go into the season with five WR's, the fifth one isn't currently on the roster.

Malloy
09-02-2011, 01:14 PM
I don't think Holliday makes it as either WR or Returner.

Everyone keeps talking about keeping five WR's, but if I'm not mistaken, Kubiak said not too long ago that it would either be four or five. I wouldn't be surprised a bit if it were AJ, Walter, JJ, Bryant Johnson, and nobody else. I think it's very possible that if we do go into the season with five WR's, the fifth one isn't currently on the roster.

IMO it really comes down to the status of Foster, will we need even more depth at RB?

Blake
09-02-2011, 01:16 PM
Texan Bill - Cut.
Vinny - Cut.
Trap_Star - Cut.
Malloy - Cut.

Just not gettin it done!

b0ng
09-02-2011, 01:19 PM
I just can't see Holliday making the roster no matter how well he played against the backups to the backups.;

ChampionTexan
09-02-2011, 01:22 PM
Texan Bill - Cut.
Vinny - Cut.
Trap_Star - Cut.
Malloy - Cut.

Just not gettin it done!

This is particularly surprising since nobody could tell Bill and Trap Star apart, and therefore they were only taking up one roster spot to begin with.

beerlover
09-02-2011, 01:23 PM
I'm thinking Holiday will be our WR5. No one else really stuck out to me. So that's:

Andre Johnson
Kevin Walter
Jacoby Jones
Bryant Johnson
Trindon Holiday

I also agree with you. Johnson looks more like a poor mans AJ than Dickerson who was supposed to be that guy. Holliday missed last season. Hopefully he can be a Darren Sproles type scat back/receiver who has game breaking return skills.

Jeff Mahel to PS.

Ryan
09-02-2011, 01:23 PM
I hope Maehl makes the team in some form.

Texans34Life
09-02-2011, 01:25 PM
Why is everyone so high on Holliday? From last night, did he proved to be a backup KR?

Ryan
09-02-2011, 01:27 PM
Why is everyone so high on Holliday? From last night, did he proved to be a backup KR?


He looks to be our best KR so far, although we haven't seen Manning do it yet.

Blake
09-02-2011, 01:30 PM
This is particularly surprising since nobody could tell Bill and Trap Star apart, and therefore they were only taking up one roster spot to begin with.

Correct. But they both have poor personal hygiene and the others were complaining.

IDEXAN
09-02-2011, 01:40 PM
I saw this Holliday kid win the NCAA 100-meter championship a couple years ago. He can really fly, but unless Kubiak is planning on forming a 400 meter sprint-relay team, why would he keep Holliday ? Can he do anything besides run back kickoffs ? He dosen't even return punts does he ? And I don't think he's a serious WR prospect ?

Malloy
09-02-2011, 01:40 PM
Texan Bill - Cut.
Vinny - Cut.
Trap_Star - Cut.
Malloy - Cut.

Just not gettin it done!

There's alway the chance of me ending up on the PS! (Pretend Squad)

ObsiWan
09-02-2011, 01:52 PM
Why is everyone so high on Holliday? From last night, did he proved to be a backup KR?

Beats me...

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 02:03 PM
Jeff Mahel to PS.

Mahel had a nice game .... also made a tough catch over the middle knowing he was gonna get laid out. Of all the recievers last night , he and Derrick Townsel stood out .... (Outside of B.Johnson).

I saw this Holliday kid win the NCAA 100-meter championship a couple years ago. He can really fly, but unless Kubiak is planning on forming a 400 meter sprint-relay team, why would he keep Holliday ? Can he do anything besides run back kickoffs ? He dosen't even return punts does he ? And I don't think he's a serious WR prospect ?

He returned punts last night (Put one on the ground) as well as one reception for 14 yards.

cdollaz
09-02-2011, 02:06 PM
I still can't believe we waste a spot every year on a person who does nothing but snap. Is it really so hard that any number of our backups can't spend their practice time learning how to do it? I would much rather have the luxury of being able to keep a specialist like Holliday, who can be a home-run hitter (allegedly), than someone who does something that seems like alot of people could effectively do with enough practice.

ThaJokaa
09-02-2011, 02:16 PM
When did Dickerson get cut? I hope JM and LJ/TT make the team.

silvrhand
09-02-2011, 02:17 PM
I still can't believe we waste a spot every year on a person who does nothing but snap. Is it really so hard that any number of our backups can't spend their practice time learning how to do it? I would much rather have the luxury of being able to keep a specialist like Holliday, who can be a home-run hitter (allegedly), than someone who does something that seems like alot of people could effectively do with enough practice.

When snaps go wrong film at 11.... Almost every team now has a dedicated long snapper, and even Madden now has the names of the longsnappers in the game.

http://longsnap.com/

Blake
09-02-2011, 02:21 PM
I still can't believe we waste a spot every year on a person who does nothing but snap. Is it really so hard that any number of our backups can't spend their practice time learning how to do it? I would much rather have the luxury of being able to keep a specialist like Holliday, who can be a home-run hitter (allegedly), than someone who does something that seems like alot of people could effectively do with enough practice.

You say that until we have snaps going over the kickers head, snaps skipping off the ground or worse. I would like to see a position player be able to do that as well, but if Kubiak isnt happy with them then I am fine with a specialist.

Rey
09-02-2011, 02:25 PM
I still can't believe we waste a spot every year on a person who does nothing but snap. Is it really so hard that any number of our backups can't spend their practice time learning how to do it? I would much rather have the luxury of being able to keep a specialist like Holliday, who can be a home-run hitter (allegedly), than someone who does something that seems like alot of people could effectively do with enough practice.

You could argue that a long snapper is just as important as the kicker or punter.

He is on the field for field goals and punts. A bad snap can be much more devastating than a missed FG or a botched punt as well.

When I went to college, I really saw how serious the LS took his craft...I think other guys can do it in emergency situations, but a guy would really have to focus on it and show that he can do it consistently well...

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 02:26 PM
Twitter is saying that Ogbonnaya is cut, too.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 02:27 PM
I still can't believe we waste a spot every year on a person who does nothing but snap. Is it really so hard that any number of our backups can't spend their practice time learning how to do it? I would much rather have the luxury of being able to keep a specialist like Holliday, who can be a home-run hitter (allegedly), than someone who does something that seems like alot of people could effectively do with enough practice.

Yes. It is that hard.

Errant Hothy
09-02-2011, 02:27 PM
Twitter is saying that Ogbonnaya is cut, too.

Might be what LZ is refering to with this

Lance Zierlein
A surprising cut coming from texans

cdollaz
09-02-2011, 02:27 PM
You could argue that a long snapper is just as important as the kicker or punter.


And I could also argue that, given sufficient practice, a "regular" team member who contributes in other ways can learn to do it effectively.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 02:31 PM
And I could also argue that, given sufficient practice, a "regular" team member who contributes in other ways can learn to do it effectively.

Think about it this way...

Every team in the league is looking for ways to maximize roster spots. Every team in the league is looking for players who can play multiple positions.

How many have dedicated long snappers?

If it was so easy that any scrub could pick it up, there wouldn't be any dedicated long snappers in the league. Everyone would have a talented LB or lineman who could do it. But they don't.

It's a lot harder and takes a lot more talent than you'd think it does.

cdollaz
09-02-2011, 02:34 PM
Think about it this way...

Every team in the league is looking for ways to maximize roster spots. Every team in the league is looking for players who can play multiple positions.

How many have dedicated long snappers?

If it was so easy that any scrub could pick it up, there wouldn't be any dedicated long snappers in the league. Everyone would have a talented LB or lineman who could do it. But they don't.

It's a lot harder and takes a lot more talent than you'd think it does.

I know the argument, I just don't buy it. And please supply the answer your question, how many teams have dedicated long-snappers? Or more importantly, historically, how many Super Bowl teams have had one?

silvrhand
09-02-2011, 02:36 PM
And I could also argue that, given sufficient practice, a "regular" team member who contributes in other ways can learn to do it effectively.

:vincepalm:

Malloy
09-02-2011, 02:36 PM
Might be what LZ is refering to with this

Very underwhelmed by Ogbonnaya in general, he seems to lack the vision that the other 3 backs (F, T & W) have. I'm mostly curious who will be the #4, because I'm sure there'll be one.

Errant Hothy
09-02-2011, 02:39 PM
Looks like it is Chris Ogbyn

Nick Scurfield
Kubiak on if Texans will keep 4 RBs: "I think you keep good football players. Steve’s a good football player, so we’ll see how it works out"

Errant Hothy
09-02-2011, 02:42 PM
I know the argument, I just don't buy it. And please supply the answer your question, how many teams have dedicated long-snappers? Or more importantly, historically, how many Super Bowl teams have had one?

Just doing a quick once over of the rosters, all 16 AFC teams have dedicated long snappers.

Edit; Cincy lists Harris as a LS/TE but he has never caught a pass in the NFL.

JCTexan
09-02-2011, 02:44 PM
Looks like it is Chris Ogbyn

Did Slaton ever see the field in preseason?

Malloy
09-02-2011, 02:44 PM
Looks like it is Chris Ogbyn

Crap that Steve's still here. I'm still waiting to see some actual playtime from him, how many touches in the pre-season... zero :(

I really hope that he shows up and proves me wrong, but after running out of bounds at the 1-yard line last year, I have low expectations.

Rey
09-02-2011, 02:46 PM
And I could also argue that, given sufficient practice, a "regular" team member who contributes in other ways can learn to do it effectively.

So you want to take practice time from a guy doing his "regular job" so that he can become good at long snapping?

Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

CloakNNNdagger
09-02-2011, 02:46 PM
I'm sure that if (which is unlikely) OBGYN passes waivers, he ends up on our PS.

WR JB as good as in.

Rey
09-02-2011, 02:48 PM
Looks like it is Chris Ogbyn

Good.

Steve Slaton is a betrter player than he is.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 02:49 PM
I know the argument, I just don't buy it. And please supply the answer your question, how many teams have dedicated long-snappers? Or more importantly, historically, how many Super Bowl teams have had one?

It's hard to go back through the SB's and figure out which guy was the LS and if they were a dedicated LS. Last year, the Packers had Brett Good who was their long snapper. The year before that, the Saints had a dedicated long snapper.

Looking at current teams (and include the Packers and Saints):
Cardinals - Mike Leach, LS
Patriots - None
Colts - Justin Snow, LS
Chargers - Mike Wendt, LS
Jets - Tanner Purdum, LS
Ravens - Morgan Cox, LS (And they've brought in someone to challenge for the spot)
Steelers - Greg Warren, LS

I'll stop there.

drunkcookie
09-02-2011, 02:50 PM
Deep-snapper = underrated

The most important thing in football IS the football... The deep-snapper has to throw that football from the ground, between his legs and straight into the punter's hands...

Why have a dedicated QB? Just get JJ to do it!

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 02:50 PM
Just doing a quick once over of the rosters, all 16 AFC teams have dedicated long snappers.

Edit; Cincy lists Harris as a LS/TE but he has never caught a pass in the NFL.

I didn't see one for the Patriots on NFL.com.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 02:51 PM
Hearing rumors on Twitter that Adibi is gone.

Vinny
09-02-2011, 02:51 PM
Texan Bill - Cut.
Vinny - Cut.
Trap_Star - Cut.
Malloy - Cut.

Just not gettin it done!
Nobody can cut me...I'll just cut myself. I'm the only self-banning moderator in the league.

Malloy
09-02-2011, 02:53 PM
Nobody can cut me...I'll just cut myself. I'm the only self-banning moderator in the league.

See, this is the kind of stuff I've been missing the last couple of years!

Missed ya mate :)

infantrycak
09-02-2011, 02:55 PM
And I could also argue that, given sufficient practice, a "regular" team member who contributes in other ways can learn to do it effectively.

Joel Dreesen was long snapping until OD went down. Since then Kubiak has decided the chance of injury is too significant. And no it isn't nearly as easy as you are making it out to be.

I have always wondered why guys don't learn to both punt and kick so a roster spot could be saved. Obviously that doesn't work either as it almost never happens.

Errant Hothy
09-02-2011, 02:57 PM
I didn't see one for the Patriots on NFL.com.

James Dearth, signed 8/29/2011.

As for long snappers with rings, Lonnie Paxton of the Broncos has 3. All won with the Pats. IF any team was going to avoid "wasting" a roster spot it would be New England.

HouSportsWriter
09-02-2011, 03:03 PM
There's alway the chance of me ending up on the PS! (Pretend Squad)

I am very surprised I am not on that list.

p.s.


I am slatonisabeast. It is just a new name!

cj5776
09-02-2011, 03:05 PM
Hearing rumors on Twitter that Adibi is gone.

Trying to make room for the Cheta, he had a good game last night

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 03:08 PM
Hearing rumors on Twitter that Adibi is gone.

That would be surprising .... He looked pretty good this preseason.

Thorn
09-02-2011, 03:09 PM
I would be very surprised if Adibi got cut.

Texans34Life
09-02-2011, 03:12 PM
Chris O. being gone is not a shocker. They know if they cut Slaton that he's going to be picked up right away and have a huge season with another team.

This way keeping him on the squad, Kubiak won't get ****ed with his ass on the line.

cj5776
09-02-2011, 03:15 PM
I would be very surprised if Adibi got cut.

Other than the two sacks in the jets game, what has he done? Not sure if he is physical enough for this defense. I really the trio of reserve ILBS, Cheta, Dobbins, and Sharpton

b0ng
09-02-2011, 03:15 PM
That would be surprising .... He looked pretty good this preseason.

I think Adibi being cut would be the one lance z was referring to as being a surprise. the RB4 on a team getting cut isn't much of a surprise, although I am a little surprised Slaton wasn't cut.

badboy
09-02-2011, 03:19 PM
Joel Dreesen was long snapping until OD went down. Since then Kubiak has decided the chance of injury is too significant. And no it isn't nearly as easy as you are making it out to be.

I have always wondered why guys don't learn to both punt and kick so a roster spot could be saved. Obviously that doesn't work either as it almost never happens.Not many George Blandas out there anymore.

TexanBacker93
09-02-2011, 03:21 PM
Joel Dreesen was long snapping until OD went down. Since then Kubiak has decided the chance of injury is too significant. And no it isn't nearly as easy as you are making it out to be.

I have always wondered why guys don't learn to both punt and kick so a roster spot could be saved. Obviously that doesn't work either as it almost never happens.

We could try and get Holliday to learn to long snap. He'd be the only guy in the league that could be a return guy on one side and a long snapper on the other. Of course, with his short legs the ball might not fit.

MojoMan
09-02-2011, 03:21 PM
Twitter is saying that Ogbonnaya is cut, too.

An excellent candidate for the practice squad. Derrick Ward is not getting any younger. If Ogbonnaya can be patient for a while, there may still be a place for him on this team yet.

badboy
09-02-2011, 03:22 PM
I am very surprised I am not on that list.

p.s.


I am slatonisabeast. It is just a new name!You sly fox. You will always be SIAB to me.

:runaway:

MojoMan
09-02-2011, 03:23 PM
I am very surprised I am not on that list.

p.s.


I am slatonisabeast. It is just a new name!

Clearly, fosterisabeast. And it may be that tateisabeast as well.

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 03:23 PM
I think Adibi being cut would be the one lance z was referring to as being a surprise. the RB4 on a team getting cut isn't much of a surprise, although I am a little surprised Slaton wasn't cut.

On Slaton .... I can see why he would be kept , at least for the time being. They could move him before the deadline , place him on IR or cut him when a spot is needed elsewhere.


Whats his contract situation ?


Adibi , I have mixed feelings on .... Hasnt shown much in how many seasons ? He did have a solid camp. If he's cut I wonder if its for Dobbins to stick or a player at another position (DB) ?

badboy
09-02-2011, 03:25 PM
Clearly, fosterisabeast. And it may be that tateisabeast as well.Oh, those beastie boys! signed Janet Jackson ( I think)

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 03:26 PM
I'm sure that if (which is unlikely) OBGYN passes waivers, he ends up on our PS.

WR JB as good as in.

Im not so sure OB27 is PS elegible .... thought I heard something of that nature last night during the game .... tho I could be wrong.

False Start
09-02-2011, 03:26 PM
Clearly, fosterisabeast. And it may be that tateisabeast as well.

HouSportsWriterIsABeast or just Beast for short, lol. :)

Anyways, Adibi getting cut would surprise me too.

b0ng
09-02-2011, 03:29 PM
On Slaton .... I can see why he would be kept , at least for the time being. They could move him before the deadline , place him on IR or cut him when a spot is needed elsewhere.


Whats his contract situation ?


Adibi , I have mixed feelings on .... Hasnt shown much in how many seasons ? He did have a solid camp. If he's cut I wonder if its for Dobbins to stick or a player at another position (DB) ?

Since Slaton is on his rookie contract and he was a 3rd rounder, I'm sure it falls into the territory of not really mattering. IR or Cut is what I imagine although if they don't have any plans for him in the future it would seem prudent to release him now so he'll get picked up by another team.

Adibi has usually been sharp in camp and then injured in the regular season. I thought he showed enough to warrant a backup role but if he's gone I can see them wanting to go heavier on DB's or possibly OL.

badboy
09-02-2011, 03:30 PM
On Slaton .... I can see why he would be kept , at least for the time being. They could move him before the deadline , place him on IR or cut him when a spot is needed elsewhere.


Whats his contract situation ?


Adibi , I have mixed feelings on .... Hasnt shown much in how many seasons ? He did have a solid camp. If he's cut I wonder if its for Dobbins to stick or a player at another position (DB) ?Here is one report
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/steve-slaton/

$721K including bonus but roto world has him at a bit over $1m. in his last season.

ArlingtonTexan
09-02-2011, 03:32 PM
Not many George Blandas out there anymore.


Atlanta tried the kicker/punter thing a couple of year back with their current punter and he was ok, but not good enough for them to continue the experiment.

Errant Hothy
09-02-2011, 03:34 PM
Hearing rumors on Twitter that Adibi is gone.

Lance Zierlein
Adibi being cut is surprising to me. He's not a great player, but still figured he would make the team. D. Dickerson simply isn't a WR

Of the cuts so far the only one I'm surprised with is the Abidi cut. I thought he certainly looked the part as a back-up to the ILB spots.

ObsiWan
09-02-2011, 03:36 PM
Hearing rumors on Twitter that Adibi is gone.

That makes no sense. Why cut a second-stringer??

Ole Miss Texan
09-02-2011, 03:37 PM
I'm totally bummed Adibi got cut, that surprises the heck out of me.

TimeKiller
09-02-2011, 03:37 PM
Adibi seemed to play well to me but they're gonna have to cut someone!

Dickerson isn't a big surprise. . . the big surprise is that he didn't do so hot. Bet Patriots pick him up too.

If D. Lewis can't win a spot at DL depth, my goodness, they HAVE to be eyeballing the waiver wire and street free agents for someone. I can't even name anyone else besides Jamison. Maybe Nading is still listed as DL?

b0ng
09-02-2011, 03:40 PM
Anthony Hill has supposedly been cut.

edit: our long nightmare is finally over

drunkcookie
09-02-2011, 03:41 PM
I'm a wonderin', will the Broncos cut David Anderson?

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 03:41 PM
On Twitter, I'm hearing that Anthony Hill is gone. Not that that's a surprise or anything.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 03:42 PM
Adibi seemed to play well to me but they're gonna have to cut someone!

Dickerson isn't a big surprise. . . the big surprise is that he didn't do so hot. Bet Patriots pick him up too.

If D. Lewis can't win a spot at DL depth, my goodness, they HAVE to be eyeballing the waiver wire and street free agents for someone. I can't even name anyone else besides Jamison. Maybe Nading is still listed as DL?

Nading has been playing OLB behind Mario all preseason.

He played last night and was one of the guys that whiffed on Ponder.

michaelm
09-02-2011, 03:44 PM
Nading has been playing OLB behind Mario all preseason.

He played last night and was one of the guys that whiffed on Ponder.

If we cut everyone who whiffed on ponder last night, we'll have to take walk-ons to field a second string defense.

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 03:45 PM
Here is one report
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/houston-texans/steve-slaton/

$721K including bonus but roto world has him at a bit over $1m. in his last season.

Thanks Steve .... that answers at least one question - Final year of the deal. They arent hanging onto him for the future but as either to move before the deadline or as an insurance policy for Foster , Tate , Ward who have been knicked up a bit so far.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 03:45 PM
If we cut everyone who whiffed on ponder last night, we'll have to take walk-ons to field a second string defense.

lol

Ain't that the truth.

ArlingtonTexan
09-02-2011, 03:48 PM
I know the argument, I just don't buy it. And please supply the answer your question, how many teams have dedicated long-snappers? Or more importantly, historically, how many Super Bowl teams have had one?

This question comes up every year. In theory, there are regular players who could long-snap at 95% percent of what the dedicated guys does. The problem is that dedicated long-snappers are close to perfect in terms accuracy, speed and having the laces turned the right way. A good long-snapper is barely noticable through 16 games. Even a handful (say 4 or 5) extra snaps is huge. The NFL is a league where 1 or 2 plays a game equals a win or loss (see 2010 texans), no need to have a few preventable bad plays floating around.

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 03:49 PM
Nading has been playing OLB behind Mario all preseason.

He played last night and was one of the guys that whiffed on Ponder.

He whiffed on Ponder a time or two .... You also have to credit Ponder , he moved real well in the pocket and once outside has some wheels ..... Nading made the adjustments later in the game keeping contain and forcing him to throw it away rather than giving up the edge.

He was in on a whole lot of plays last night ....

Texaninlild
09-02-2011, 03:50 PM
Adibi? That doesn't make sense. I have not seen any news source w/ the info.

jaayteetx
09-02-2011, 03:58 PM
K, just catching up, Dickerson, Adibi, Lewis, Hill supposedly all gone, right? I miss anyone?

chicagotexan2
09-02-2011, 04:04 PM
Texan Bill - Cut.
Vinny - Cut.
Trap_Star - Cut.
Malloy - Cut.

Just not gettin it done!

I didn't know they were circumcised and I don't want to know how you knew? Twitter pics? No don't tell us.

gtexan02
09-02-2011, 04:05 PM
Why cut Adibi? We have two ILBs with injury problems and only one viable backup with experience. I liked what I saw from Adibi personally

chicagotexan2
09-02-2011, 04:09 PM
I'm totally bummed Adibi got cut, that surprises the heck out of me.

WOw even though he was very moldenesque he did have a good camp. I am surprised too. I think he and Dickerson will do ok somewhere else. That will suck for us.

Ryan
09-02-2011, 04:12 PM
I guess Wade wasn't a real Adibi fan. At least i'm confident in the fact that he's not making a bad decision and actually knows what's best for the team.

ObsiWan
09-02-2011, 04:19 PM
Why cut Adibi? We have two ILBs with injury problems and only one viable backup with experience. I liked what I saw from Adibi personally

I wonder was this done (if it IS true) so Wade can keep his guy he brought in from Miami.... his name was Tim Dobbins I think. Pre-Miami, he played for Wade out in ChargerLand for 3 years.
:thinking:

digitalswim
09-02-2011, 04:34 PM
To me Adibi was just a another guy. He just didn't bring the wood on the inside runs and didn't seem to have a good handle on his lane assignments.

Shaft75
09-02-2011, 04:39 PM
I'm really hoping we keep the Barbieri guy. Love his hair!

Rey
09-02-2011, 04:41 PM
If wade keeps keo, I will be pretty upset.

prostock101
09-02-2011, 04:44 PM
If wade keeps keo, I will be pretty upset.

Keep hearing chatter about how much they like him. Heard it again this morning on 610. Still, when it comes down to brass tacks, anything can happen......

Texaninlild
09-02-2011, 04:46 PM
If wade keeps keo, I will be pretty upset.

Every time I saw Keo he was missing a tackle.

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 04:48 PM
If wade keeps keo, I will be pretty upset.

I left him off my final 53.

Rey
09-02-2011, 04:49 PM
Every time I saw Keo he was missing a tackle.

I posted a while ago that keo had some tackling problems in college and that I didn't get what the fuss was about.

Maybe he is doing something in practice or something that I'm just not seeing, but IMO he has been a downright liability.

houstonspartan
09-02-2011, 04:52 PM
There's too much at stake this season to keep guys "they like" or "have potential."

They have to field the best team they can RIGHT NOW. Not a year from now - NOW.

If Keo wasn't cutting it, he's gotta go.

IDEXAN
09-02-2011, 04:53 PM
If wade keeps keo, I will be pretty upset.
I was really pulling for Keo, but from I've seen and read it's hard to believe he
makes the roster ? PS maybe, probably, but 53-man roster ? I don't see how he makes it, but on the other hand he's clearly Wade's pick and Wade apparently kept his guy Dobbins over Adibi @ ILB ?

ArlingtonTexan
09-02-2011, 05:10 PM
Adibi? That doesn't make sense. I have not seen any news source w/ the info.

Why? he has been in the league 3 or 4 years and is at best a back-up ILB.

prostock101
09-02-2011, 05:53 PM
I thought Dobbins showed a bit more. Adibi has had his moments but they've been few and far between.....

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 05:54 PM
I thought Dobbins showed a bit more. Adibi has had his moments but they've been few and far between.....

I thought Dobbins was a savy player .... not spectacular but steady.

If keeping him means Adibi is gone , I call it a wash ...

CloakNNNdagger
09-02-2011, 06:00 PM
610 confirms Adibi gone

kiwitexansfan
09-02-2011, 06:14 PM
3-4 LBs tend to be a little bigger than 4-3 backers generally from what I understand. Adibi is a lighter LB so maybe he didn't measure up.

Brisco_County
09-02-2011, 06:24 PM
Very surprised about Adibi, but it's a new defense now, and anything can happen.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 06:55 PM
K, just catching up, Dickerson, Adibi, Lewis, Hill supposedly all gone, right? I miss anyone?

Ogbonnaya.

beerlover
09-02-2011, 06:57 PM
If nobody else claims Adibi he could always return given the right circumstances.

Pantherstang84
09-02-2011, 07:44 PM
Maybe Wade saw someone hit the wire he would rather have but Adibi had a good camp and preseason.

JamesBill
09-02-2011, 07:58 PM
Ogbonnaya.

Is that from any significant source? Can someone link it?

Rey
09-02-2011, 08:09 PM
Sports radio 610 Siting yahoo report that braman has made the team.

prostock101
09-02-2011, 08:23 PM
Sports radio 610 Siting yahoo report that braman has made the team.

Good news. Now tell me we cut Maynard and got the rook back.....

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 08:44 PM
Is that from any significant source? Can someone link it?

Not a significant source. It's something that was floating around twitter.

Right now, the Texans haven't officially cut anyone.

Some of the twitter traffic is coming from guys saying they've been cut and stuff. I saw Dorin's tweet saying "goodbye". I don't know offhand where the Ogbonnaya rumors came from or how substantial they are.

Shaft75
09-02-2011, 08:50 PM
We should all face it. Adobe just wasn't all that good and was hurt often. Hopefully there's a good waiver wire prospect out there for us.

Honoring Earl 34
09-02-2011, 08:58 PM
3-4 LBs tend to be a little bigger than 4-3 backers generally from what I understand. Adibi is a lighter LB so maybe he didn't measure up.

Adibi was a tease , he'd flash potential and then get hurt .

dream_team
09-02-2011, 09:09 PM
I don't know why people are surprised by Ogbonnaya being cut. He didn't really show me anything special to be kept around. And Slaton has more trade value than he does, so it just makes more sense to keep Slaton over him.

Adibi is a little surprising, I thought he had a good pre-season. But considering they already have Sharpton, and I'm sure Wade likes Dobbins, then there's Reed and Nading, not to mention Mr. Irrelevant. Keeping Adibi as well would be a lot of LBs!

aussie_texan
09-02-2011, 09:12 PM
sooooo surprised and disappointed for adibi.
thought he was a quality back ups.

i get the feeling that vikes game cubes probably told him to show him something because its against 2-3stringers and he didn't do much.

hope he finds a good team to go to

JimBaker488
09-02-2011, 09:16 PM
I don't know why people are surprised by Ogbonnaya being cut.
He was healthy the whole preseason, and played the whole game last night.
Name another player who's done that ?

Rey
09-02-2011, 09:17 PM
sooooo surprised and disappointed for adibi.
thought he was a quality back ups.

i get the feeling that vikes game cubes probably told him to show him something because its against 2-3stringers and he didn't do much.

hope he finds a good team to go to

Adibi had a couple ugly plays in that game.

I don't think dobbins wowed the coaches, I just think he didn't look as bad overall.

A couple of plays adibi just let single blockers clear him out the frame.

Rey
09-02-2011, 09:18 PM
He was healthy the whole preseason, and played the whole game last night.
Name another player who's done that ?

You're right.

Health was his beat attribute.

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 09:29 PM
Sports radio 610 Siting yahoo report that braman has made the team.

Glad to see that , I think he earned it.

Good news. Now tell me we cut Maynard and got the rook back.....

Hartmann didnt look any better than Maynard .... I'd be scouring the waiver wire for punters.

prostock101
09-02-2011, 09:30 PM
I'm tryin' to wrap my brain around the idea that Slaton is a better option that Obiwan. Has anyone seen Slaton run like he did his rookie year?

Last year he was MIA in games and a gawdawful KR. Before that he had fumble issues. So since his first year he's been pretty much fubar.

Obi has actually looked pretty decent and busted off some nice runs last night even though they were called back.

So what has Slaton done to deserve to be on the roster? Tradebait? Can't be his fantastic running ability because no one's seen it in two years.....

aussie_texan
09-02-2011, 09:34 PM
] I'd be scouring the waiver wire for punters.

Ben Graham got cut from the cardinals.
His an australian and i used to watch him play aussie rules football, he has a MONSTER leg .
Bring the aussie to Houston!!!

cuppacoffee
09-02-2011, 09:41 PM
Ben Graham got cut from the cardinals.
His an australian and i used to watch him play aussie rules football, he has a MONSTER leg .
Bring the aussie to Houston!!!


I wish I lived in Australia. Adelaide sounds nice.

:coffee:

aussie_texan
09-02-2011, 09:46 PM
I wish I lived in Australia. Adelaide sounds nice.

:coffee:

adelaide and hobart are usually the butt of all jokes down here lol
but if you like quiet and not large cities then its your go

cuppacoffee
09-02-2011, 09:58 PM
adelaide and hobart are usually the butt of all jokes down here lol
but if you like quiet and not large cities then its your go

My job offer was Adelaide and all I know about it is what I read.

Wine growing area isn't it? Gotta have nice climate. Quiet and small are good.

Now...back to football.

:coffee;

aussie_texan
09-02-2011, 10:02 PM
My job offer was Adelaide and all I know about it is what I read.

Wine growing area isn't it? Gotta have nice climate. Quiet and small are good.

Now...back to football.

:coffee;

yeah definitely a lot of wines comes from adelaide in particular the barossa valley.

but yes back to football

CloakNNNdagger
09-02-2011, 10:16 PM
Ben Graham got cut from the cardinals.
His an australian and i used to watch him play aussie rules football, he has a MONSTER leg .
Bring the aussie to Houston!!!

I second that.............loved those torpedo punts!

Ben Graham cut from Arizona Cardinals (http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/09/03/ben-graham-cut-from-arizona-cardinals/)

MojoMan
09-02-2011, 10:26 PM
I second that.............loved those torpedo punts!

Ben Graham cut from Arizona Cardinals (http://www.theroar.com.au/2011/09/03/ben-graham-cut-from-arizona-cardinals/)

I hope Rick Smith has already called him.

80tothezone
09-02-2011, 10:39 PM
Other than the two sacks in the jets game, what has he done? Not sure if he is physical enough for this defense. I really the trio of reserve ILBS, Cheta, Dobbins, and Sharpton

that dude is slower than a six hour shit I hope to god he don't make the team

Shaft75
09-02-2011, 10:47 PM
Im thinking that they'll be on the hunt for DT's and maybe they'll be eying A punter like Graham. I hope a teams cafeteria tries to convince a GM that a big 300+ pounder is costing them too much.

ObsiWan
09-02-2011, 10:49 PM
that dude is slower than a six hour shit I hope to god he don't make the team

Dobbins is tougher than Adibi against the run. That's what Wade is looking for from his ILBs. Remember Dobbins was drafted by the Chargers in 2006 when Wade was their def. coordinator.

Earlier this evening the wagging tongues on 610 sportsradio said that Wade is partial to "tough guys" in the middle because they have to clean up the run. Adibi is faster and a better cover LB. Dobbins is better against the run - more of a thumper.

Dobbins over Adibi is Wade's choice.

Shaft75
09-02-2011, 10:52 PM
Dobbins is tougher than Adibi against the run. That's what Wade is looking for from his ILBs. Remember Dobbins was drafted by the Chargers in 2006 when Wade was their def. coordinator.

Earlier this evening the wagging tongues on 610 sportsradio said that Wade is partial to "tough guys" in the middle because they have to clean up the run. Adibi is faster and a better cover LB. Dobbins is better against the run - more of a thumper.

Dobbins over Adibi is Wade's choice.

We need that Ray....what's his name....the lb from Baltimore. I think he's a little physical.

ObsiWan
09-02-2011, 11:00 PM
We need that Ray....what's his name....the lb from Baltimore. I think he's a little physical.

You mean that old dude who goes all spaz at the start of every game...?
Naaah... I'd rather have his buddy that plays NT... what's his name...? Ngoto, Ntendo, Ngata....? you know, that guy that's only slightly smaller than Pluto.

aussie_texan
09-02-2011, 11:05 PM
I just got a message from Scooter Berry informing me that he had been cut by the Texans. He told me that he will not be on their practice squad because they don't keep defensive linemen on that team.

http://www.smokingmusket.com/2011/9/2/2401613/former-mountaineers-face-nfl-roster-cuts

DocBar
09-02-2011, 11:07 PM
You mean that old dude who goes all spaz at the start of every game...?
Naaah... I'd rather have his buddy that plays NT... what's his name...? Ngoto, Ntendo, Ngata....? you know, that guy that's only slightly smaller than Pluto.That's crazy. He'd be offsides every play. Pick someone less...nebular...

ObsiWan
09-02-2011, 11:10 PM
That's crazy. He'd be offsides every play. Pick someone less...nebular...

Yeah, but he'd be awfully tough to throw over.
:D

CloakNNNdagger
09-02-2011, 11:12 PM
I hope we carefully scour the Colts cuts tomorrow for a Mata Hari with balls.:kitten:

ObsiWan
09-02-2011, 11:14 PM
I hope we carefully scour the Colts cuts tomorrow for a Mata Hari with balls.:kitten:
You know the Colts offense is gonna really be weird with no Peyton doing his pre-snap Macarena moves and no Tom Matte calling the plays...
I'm not sure what to expect.

CloakNNNdagger
09-02-2011, 11:19 PM
You know the Colts offense is gonna really be weird with no Peyton doing his pre-snap Macarena moves and no Tom Matte calling the plays...
I'm not sure what to expect.

Organized chaos..........

ObsiWan
09-02-2011, 11:30 PM
Organized chaos..........
You sure about that organized part?
:hmmm:

Rey
09-02-2011, 11:36 PM
I just got a message from Scooter Berry informing me that he had been cut by the Texans. He told me that he will not be on their practice squad because they don't keep defensive linemen on that team.

http://www.smokingmusket.com/2011/9/2/2401613/former-mountaineers-face-nfl-roster-cuts

The article said we opted to go with 5 vets on the d-line.

So I'm guessing we will carry 6 with watt not being included in the 5 vets.

The Pencil Neck
09-02-2011, 11:40 PM
The article said we opted to go with 5 vets on the d-line.

So I'm guessing we will carry 6 with watt not being included in the 5 vets.

That makes sense to me.

Watt - Cody - Smith as the starters.

Jamison - Mitchell - Bulman as the backups.

I would have liked to have kept Lewis because he could play both DT and DE.

bckey
09-02-2011, 11:53 PM
I don't know why people are surprised by Ogbonnaya being cut. He didn't really show me anything special to be kept around. And Slaton has more trade value than he does, so it just makes more sense to keep Slaton over him.

Adibi is a little surprising, I thought he had a good pre-season. But considering they already have Sharpton, and I'm sure Wade likes Dobbins, then there's Reed and Nading, not to mention Mr. Irrelevant. Keeping Adibi as well would be a lot of LBs!


I'm of the totally opposite opinion as this. What has Slaton done since his 1 good year? Absolutely nothing. I see no trade value with Slaton. Obonnaya on the other hand is running with passion and looking like he wants to play for this team. This will be a Kubiak move.

Adibi shows flashes here and there but either gets hurt or fizzles into the background again. Dobbins as others have stated was drafted by Wade in San Diego and knows his defense. This will be a Phillips move.

hadaad
09-02-2011, 11:54 PM
Glad to see that , I think he earned it.



Hartmann didnt look any better than Maynard .... I'd be scouring the waiver wire for punters.

Ben Graham got released.

ETA Never mind. I see it's been discussed. Still wouldn't mind having him.

kiwitexansfan
09-03-2011, 12:16 AM
I wish I lived in Australia. Adelaide sounds nice.

:coffee:

Down side of that is that it's full of Aussies.

Try NZ instead.

Nawzer
09-03-2011, 12:22 AM
I'm just catching up on the potential cuts by the Texans and was surprised to read that Ogbonnaya is potentially gone. He certainly didn't look like anything special, but I thought with Slaton's situation, he would've made the squad. Also, kind of surprised about Adibi being let go.

80tothezone
09-03-2011, 02:01 AM
Running screaming, general panic followed by several 5-10 yd losses. I hope manning doesn't play it will be poetic justice for 2009 when they pulled him and got rolled by the jets....
Edit: this was meant to be in reply to what will the colts look like w/o Peyton at the helm
Sent from my DROID X2 using Tapatalk

Malloy
09-03-2011, 02:32 AM
Down side of that is that it's full of Aussies.

Try NZ instead.

{insert random sheep joke here}

Shaft75
09-03-2011, 07:47 AM
.... .... .... .... ....

Rey
09-03-2011, 08:05 AM
That makes sense to me.

Watt - Cody - Smith as the starters.

Jamison - Mitchell - Bulman as the backups.

I would have liked to have kept Lewis because he could play both DT and DE.

In the last game against the vikes bulman played quite a bit of nose. There were some plays where he straight clowned the center.

With with wade keeping 6 dl and likely 9 lb's I think they may be gearing up to keep a lot if db's or maybe some extra wr's or a 4th rb.

Gonna be interesting to see the cuts come down.

prostock101
09-03-2011, 08:59 AM
Since the team hasn't announced any cuts, where are these coming from?

So far we've "heard" DD, OBGYN, Graham, and Adibi. Any truth to any of these or just chatter?

bckey
09-03-2011, 09:07 AM
Since the team hasn't announced any cuts, where are these coming from?

So far we've "heard" DD, OBGYN, Graham, and Adibi. Any truth to any of these or just chatter?

Twitter and the Chronicle

Thorn
09-03-2011, 09:09 AM
Since the team hasn't announced any cuts, where are these coming from?

So far we've "heard" DD, OBGYN, Graham, and Adibi. Any truth to any of these or just chatter?

Until there is an official press release from the Texans, it's all talk. But still, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of the rumors true.

Pantherstang84
09-03-2011, 09:14 AM
That makes sense to me.

Watt - Cody - Smith as the starters.

Jamison - Mitchell - Bulman as the backups.

I would have liked to have kept Lewis because he could play both DT and DE.

Here is my list...

Watt - Mitchell - Smith

Jamison - Cody - Lewis

Rey
09-03-2011, 09:20 AM
Since the team hasn't announced any cuts, where are these coming from?

So far we've "heard" DD, OBGYN, Graham, and Adibi. Any truth to any of these or just chatter?

I don't think our graham is being rumored as a cut. I think that is the cardinals punter that was mentioned.

I could be wrong though.

CloakNNNdagger
09-03-2011, 09:30 AM
Since the team hasn't announced any cuts, where are these coming from?

So far we've "heard" DD, OBGYN, Graham, and Adibi. Any truth to any of these or just chatter?


I don't think our graham is being rumored as a cut. I think that is the cardinals punter that was mentioned.

I could be wrong though.

OD, DREESEN AND GRAHAM are going nowhere. Hill is out and the Texans will certainly keep 3 TEs. No others are listed on the roster unless you technically want to count Casey as H-back, FB, TE combo.

Playoffs
09-03-2011, 09:55 AM
Tough day for a lot of young men who gave it their all to fulfill a dream.

devo-x
09-03-2011, 10:31 AM
Tough day for a lot of young men who gave it their all to fulfill a dream.

It could always be a situation where one door closes and another door opens.

dtran04
09-03-2011, 10:47 AM
Anyone think they are keeping Slaton because they know Foster will be out a few weeks?

prostock101
09-03-2011, 10:48 AM
As a look at how much better our defense is getting, Zac Diles just got cut by the Rams. Not for long as the saying goes......


And, here's the link about Adibi, Hill, Lewis, and Dickerson.

http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-cut-Dickerson-Adibi-Hill-2153813.php

As far as Slaton, if Kub held him out of the last game it seems they want to keep him. If not, why not let him show his stuff for a possible trade?

welsh texan
09-03-2011, 10:52 AM
As a look at how much better our defense is getting, Zac Diles just got cut by the Rams. Not for long as the saying goes......

This time last year we all thought he was going to hold down his spot for years to come, how times change.

Ndevine7
09-03-2011, 11:00 AM
Any chance you guys think scooter makes the team i loved him at wvu and think he could be a solid backup player on this team. I hope he can at least make it as a PS player

Rey
09-03-2011, 11:08 AM
Any chance you guys think scooter makes the team i loved him at wvu and think he could be a solid backup player on this team. I hope he can at least make it as a PS player

Supposedly he's been cut and told they don't keep d linemen on the practice squad.

ChampionTexan
09-03-2011, 11:11 AM
Any chance you guys think scooter makes the team i loved him at wvu and think he could be a solid backup player on this team. I hope he can at least make it as a PS player

Supposedly he's been cut and told they don't keep d linemen on the practice squad.

Here's a link to the source.

LINK (http://wvupros.blogspot.com/2011/09/exclusive-scooter-berry-gets-cut-by.html?spref=tw)

Lucky
09-03-2011, 11:17 AM
As far as Slaton, if Kub held him out of the last game it seems they want to keep him. If not, why not let him show his stuff for a possible trade?
One reason for sitting Slaton would be to ensure that he would not get injured, forcing the team to place him on IR or come up with an injury settlement. I think the Texans will attempt to trade Slaton, and if unsuccessful, waive him.

Ndevine7
09-03-2011, 11:18 AM
Supposedly he's been cut and told they don't keep d linemen on the practice squad.

thanks man i knew it was a long shot but i watched him play hs football in ny and college in wvu so always hoped he make it

prostock101
09-03-2011, 11:32 AM
Here's the General's list of 53. Two of his picks are already gone in Adibi and Dickerson. So much for being on the inside......

http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/John-McClain-s-Texans-roster-projection-2151148.php

Lucky
09-03-2011, 11:37 AM
Here's the General's list of 53. Two of his picks are already gone in Adibi and Dickerson. So much for being on the inside......

http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/John-McClain-s-Texans-roster-projection-2151148.php
Bryant Johnson for Dickerson and Braman for Adibi?

I still don't know what they see in Keo (if he's kept). Lacks speed, not a good tackler. What am I missing?

nero THE zero
09-03-2011, 11:37 AM
Any chance we can get a running list of cuts in the first post? Pretty tough to follow a 10 page thread of speculation, analysis, and aimless banter to see who's been cut.

Lucky
09-03-2011, 11:39 AM
Any chance we can get a running list of cuts in the first post? Pretty tough to follow a 10 page thread of speculation, analysis, and aimless banter to see who's been cut.
Until the official cut list is released, aimless banter and speculation is all we've got.

Honoring Earl 34
09-03-2011, 11:51 AM
Bryant Johnson for Dickerson and Braman for Adibi?

I still don't know what they see in Keo (if he's kept). Lacks speed, not a good tackler. What am I missing?

I don't blame Wade for weeding out anyone but his guys . As far as Dickerson , his athletism hasn't translated to the field . He should have tried running back kicks .

Ndevine7
09-03-2011, 11:54 AM
Here's the General's list of 53. Two of his picks are already gone in Adibi and Dickerson. So much for being on the inside......

http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/John-McClain-s-Texans-roster-projection-2151148.php

He has Lewis making it also and hes supposedly been cut already

Damione Lewis - DL - Texans
Texans released DL Damione Lewis.
Lewis is nearing the end of the line. Now 33, the former first-round pick can't stick on a team that needs 3-4 defensive ends. Via Rotoworld.com

The Pencil Neck
09-03-2011, 11:59 AM
Here is my list...

Watt - Mitchell - Smith

Jamison - Cody - Lewis

How about this...

Watt - Cody - Smith
Jamison - Mitchell - Olshansky

Olshansky has been released by the Cowboys.

prostock101
09-03-2011, 12:13 PM
He has Lewis making it also and hes supposedly been cut already

Damione Lewis - DL - Texans
Texans released DL Damione Lewis.
Lewis is nearing the end of the line. Now 33, the former first-round pick can't stick on a team that needs 3-4 defensive ends. Via Rotoworld.com

Yep, missed Lewis. Guess that gives Bulman a leg up. And I do like Bulman.

nero THE zero
09-03-2011, 12:16 PM
Until the official cut list is released, aimless banter and speculation is all we've got.
That's not necessarily true given that Dickerson has been definitely cut. Lewis has been confirmed as well. I've been out of the loop since yesterday afternoon.

I figure that list has grown.

Fair enough, though. I can wait for official word.

Lucky
09-03-2011, 12:23 PM
Olshansky has been released by the Cowboys.
I wonder how big a contract he will want? Will the Chargers want him back?

ArlingtonTexan
09-03-2011, 12:35 PM
Supposedly he's been cut and told they don't keep d linemen on the practice squad.

That would be new. There have Dlmen on the practice squad every year here.

ccdude730
09-03-2011, 01:25 PM
OD, DREESEN AND GRAHAM are going nowhere. Hill is out and the Texans will certainly keep 3 TEs. No others are listed on the roster unless you technically want to count Casey as H-back, FB, TE combo.

I actually think Graham isn't out of the woods just yet. To me, I think it is safer to consider Casey as the #3 TE and have Vickers at FB.

ObsiWan
09-03-2011, 01:32 PM
Until the official cut list is released, aimless banter and speculation is all we've got.

woo hooo!
three and a half more hours of aimless banter to go
:D

chicagotexan2
09-03-2011, 02:07 PM
{insert random sheep joke here}

Hey throw some lingerie and stocks on a sheep and it ain't all that baaaaahd.

Ndevine7
09-03-2011, 02:18 PM
My projected 53 man roster

Qb-Matt Schaub, Matt Leinart, T.J. Yates (3)

Rb-Arian Foster, Derrick Ward, Ben Tate, Steve Slaton (4)

Fb- James Casey, Lawrence Vickers (2)

Wr- Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, Bryant Johnson, Trindon Holliday (5)

Te-Owen Daniels, Joel Dressen, Garrett Graham (3)

Ot- Eric Winston, Duane Brown, Rashard Butler (3)

Og-Wade Smith, Mike Brisiel, Anotine Caldwell, Andre Gardner (4)

C- Chris Myers (1)

De-J.J. Watt, Antonio Smith, Tim Jamison (3)

Dt- Shaun Cody, Earl Mitchell (2)

ILB- Demeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, Darryl Sharpton, Tim Dobbins, Xavier Adibi (5)

OLB- Connor Barwin, Mario Williams, Brooks Reed, Jesse Nading, Bryan Braman (5)

CB-Jonathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Jason Allen, Brandon Harris, Brice Mccain, Sherrick Mcmanis (6)

S- Glover Quin, Daniel Manning, Troy Nolan, Shiloh Keo (4)

K- Neil Rackers (1)

P- Brad Maynard (1)

Ls- Jonathan Weeks(1)

ThaJokaa
09-03-2011, 02:31 PM
My projected 53 man roster

Qb-Matt Schaub, Matt Leinart, T.J. Yates (3)

Rb-Arian Foster, Derrick Ward, Ben Tate, Steve Slaton (4)

Fb- James Casey, Lawrence Vickers (2)

Wr- Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, Bryant Johnson, Jeff Meahl (5)

Te-Owen Daniels, Joel Dressen, Garrett Graham (3)

Ot- Eric Winston, Duane Brown, Rashard Butler (3)

Og-Wade Smith, Mike Brisiel, Anotine Caldwell, Andre Gardner (4)

C- Chris Myers (1)

De-J.J. Watt, Antonio Smith, Tim Jamison (3)

Dt- Shaun Cody, Earl Mitchell (2)

ILB- Demeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, Darryl Sharpton, Tim Dobbins, Xavier Adibi (5)

OLB- Connor Barwin, Mario Williams, Brooks Reed, Jesse Nading, Bryan Braman (5)

CB-Jonathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Jason Allen, Brandon Harris, Brice Mccain, Sherrick Mcmanis (6)

S- Glover Quin, Daniel Manning, Troy Nolan, Shiloh Keo (4)

K- Neil Rackers (1)

P- Brad Maynard (1)

Ls- Jonathan Weeks(1)

Didnt Adibi get cut already tho?

Fixed

Ndevine7
09-03-2011, 02:45 PM
Didnt Adibi get cut already tho?

Fixed

I thought that was just speculation and i think maehl will be a PS player

prostock101
09-03-2011, 03:21 PM
David Anderson anyone? Cut by da Broncs.........

jaayteetx
09-03-2011, 03:22 PM
David Anderson anyone? Cut by da Broncs.........

nope

The Pencil Neck
09-03-2011, 03:24 PM
David Anderson anyone? Cut by da Broncs.........

I'd like to take a look at Tate and Merriwether cut by the Pats.

CloakNNNdagger
09-03-2011, 03:32 PM
Listening to 610, everybody (including Greg Cook) don't have the roster to PS and PS to active roster waiver process backwards. :spit:

The1ApplePie
09-03-2011, 03:38 PM
I could see Merriweather going to the Cowboys, though hopefully the Texans take a look.

Tate seems to be the equivalent of Jacoby Jones

Carr Bombed
09-03-2011, 03:39 PM
I thought that was just speculation and i think maehl will be a PS player

The speculation was by Xavier Adibi's own agent though. He gone.

CloakNNNdagger
09-03-2011, 03:39 PM
Arizona fans are pissed that Ben Graham was released. They call him one of their few offensive weapons. We better at least bring him in for a look........and quickly.!

CloakNNNdagger
09-03-2011, 03:43 PM
The speculation was by Xavier Adibi's own agent though. He gone.

McClain in the Chronicle officially reports (http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texans-cuts-Dickerson-Adibi-Hill-2153813.php) today:

Receiver Dorin Dickerson, linebacker Xavier Adibi, defensive lineman Damione Lewis and tight end Anthony Hill are among the players known to have been waived.

The1ApplePie
09-03-2011, 03:45 PM
Punter Matt Dodge (and maybe Sepuvlita) will be available. Have to be an upgrade

prostock101
09-03-2011, 04:01 PM
Here's the cuts. Thank God they cut Maynard. Obi gone and Slaton still with us. Braman made it and Keo is gone. Note they cut to 52 so they can sign someone.

http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Texas-waive-Ogbonnaya-Keo-26-others-2154415.php

Safety Shiloh Keo, punter Brad Maynard and running back Chris Ogbonnaya were among the players waived by the Texans on Saturday when they reduced their roster from 80 to 52 – one short of the maximum 53.

General manager Rick Smith and coach Gary Kubiak will continue to rework the roster while the Texans prepare for the Sept. 11 opener against Indianapolis.

Among the veteran players kept on the roster were Steve Slaton as the fourth running back and Bryant Johnson as the fourth receiver.

Keo, the fifth-round pick from Idaho, didn’t make the team as the fifth safety. He’s a candidate for the practice squad if he clears waivers.

Because they waived Maynard, the Texans will be in the market for a new punter.

Ogbonnaya, who led the team in rushing in preseason with 54 carries for 192 yards, also could be placed on the practice squad.

Linebacker Cheta Ozougwu, a seven-round pick, was waived injured along with free agent receiver Terrence Toliver.

Saturday’s moves mean the Texans kept seven of their eight draft choices: defensive end J.J. Watt, outside linebacker Brooks Reed, cornerback Brandon Harris, cornerback Roc Carmichael, quarterback T.J. Yates and offensive tackle Derek Newton.

Carmichael, a fourth-round pick, didn’t play in preseason because of a shoulder injury.

Outside linebacker Bryan Braman, who signed as an undrafted free agent and recorded a team-high 2 Ĺ sacks in preseason, made the team.

Notable veterans waived were linebacker Xavier Adibi, defensive end Damione Lewis, receiver Dorin Dickerson, tight end Anthony Hill, receiver Trindon Holliday, safety Quentin Demps, safety Torri Williams and linebacker Stanford Keglar.

Others placed on waivers were running back Javarris Williams, fullback Zac Pauga, receiver Jeff Maehl, receiver Derrick Townsel, offensive tackle Cole Pemberton, center Cody Wallace, center Howard Barbieri, offensive tackle Peter Hendrickson, defensive end Scooter Berry, defensive end John Graves, guard Andrew Gardner, linebacker Mister Alexander, nose tackle Guy Miller, outside linebacker Steven Friday and snapper Scott Albritton and linebacker Matt Marcorelle,

Lucky
09-03-2011, 04:08 PM
Demps and Keo cut, so Barber is the 4th safety.

MojoMan
09-03-2011, 04:10 PM
Demps and Keo cut, so Barber is the 4th safety.

There are some so-called experts around that have some 'splaining to do. Which one of them called this?

Porky
09-03-2011, 04:10 PM
Saturdayís moves mean the Texans kept seven of their eight draft choices: defensive end J.J. Watt, outside linebacker Brooks Reed, cornerback Brandon Harris, cornerback Roc Carmichael, quarterback T.J. Yates and offensive tackle Derek Newton.

Ummmm, hmmmm. :gun:

Freaking Barber is like a cat with nine lives. That dude makes a couple of good plays on ST every year, but otherwise is a zero yet manages to make the team year after year.

Safety depth and CB after JJ still makes me more scared than a teenager at a Friday the 13th hockey game.

And we have no punter. :vincepalm:

JCTexan
09-03-2011, 04:12 PM
Only four WR's is surprising to me.

ChampionTexan
09-03-2011, 04:12 PM
Tate seems to be the equivalent of Jacoby Jones

Which makes him better than anyone currently up for the 5th WR spot.

Tate hasn't returned punts, and is better at kick returns than Jacoby - Manning too for that matter.

prostock101
09-03-2011, 04:18 PM
Only four WR's is surprising to me.

Still have a roster spot open. Oops, nevermind. We still need a punter.

MojoMan
09-03-2011, 04:18 PM
Still have a roster spot open.

for a punter.

Porky
09-03-2011, 04:21 PM
Still have a roster spot open. Oops, nevermind. We still need a punter.

For a punter.

I was expecting the 4 WR. Not shocked at all. We don't need anyone else. With the emergence of Casey, he is a WR, TE, FB all in one player. OD is your #2 WR for all intents and purposes, and Casey figures into that top 4 as well. Forget about labels, and think who is going to be thrown too. Then just throw a couple of these guys onto the PS for injury sake and for running scout team, and we are good to go. :texanbill:

Playoffs
09-03-2011, 04:23 PM
Berman's report as a list:

Shiloh Keo
Xavier Adibi
Brad Maynard
Anthony Hill
Chris Ogbonnaya
Cheta Ozougwu
Terrence Toliver
Trindon Holliday
Dorin Dickerson
Damione Lewis
Howard Barbieri
Scott Albritton
Mister Alexander
Steven Friday
Stanford Keglar
Matt Marcorelle
Scooter Berry
John Graves
Quentin Demps
Andrew Gardner
Pete Hendrickson
Jeff Maehl
Guy Miller
Zac Pauga
Cole Pemberton
Derrick Townsel
Cody Wallace
Javaris Williams
Torri Williams

IDEXAN
09-03-2011, 04:26 PM
Wade definitely made some solid choices in April, on the other hand that's a big whiff he made on the Texans' 5th rounder even if KEO does end up on the PS. But perhaps he redeemed himself with that diamond in the rough from West Texas State that his assitant discovered.

ChampionTexan
09-03-2011, 04:37 PM
So as of now, of the 52 roster spots that are filled, 7 are cornerbacks? I would imagine that will change.

SAMURAITEXAN
09-03-2011, 04:38 PM
Here's list who made it.

Offense (24)
Quarterbacks (3): Matt Schaub, Matt Leinart, T.J. Yates.
Running backs (4): Arian Foster, Derrick Ward, Ben Tate, Steve Slaton.
Fullbacks (2): James Casey, Lawrence Vickers.
Tight ends (3): Owen Daniels, Joel Dreessen, Garrett Graham.
Receivers (4): Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, Bryant Johnson.
Offensive linemen (8): Eric Winston, Duane Brown, Wade Smith, Mike Brisiel, Chris Myers, Rashad Butler, Antoine Caldwell, Derek Newton.

Defense (26)
Linemen (6): Antonio Smith, Shaun Cody, J.J. Watt, Earl Mitchell, Tim Jamison, Tim Bulman.
Linebackers (9): Mario Williams, Connor Barwin, DeMeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, Darryl Sharpton, Brooks Reed, Jesse Nading, Tim Dobbins, Bryan Braman.
Defensive backs (11): Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Jason Allen, Brice McCain, Sherrick McManis, Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael, Glover Quin, Danieal Manning, Troy Nolan, Dominique Barber.

Specialists (2)
Kicker (1): Neil Rackers.
Snapper (1): Jon Weeks.

Norg
09-03-2011, 04:41 PM
I hope we get david anderson back u know just for locker room vibe lol

devo-x
09-03-2011, 04:44 PM
Who's the new Punter?

ChampionTexan
09-03-2011, 04:46 PM
Who's the new Punter?

They haven't announced anyone yet. Maybe they're just going to go for it on 4th down every time!

The Pencil Neck
09-03-2011, 04:50 PM
Here's list who made it.

Snapper (1): Jon Weems.

WeeKs. :)

Ryan
09-03-2011, 04:50 PM
I bet Maehl makes it on our practice squad, along with obgonnaya. Don't bring Keo back in any circumstance.

SAMURAITEXAN
09-03-2011, 04:55 PM
WeeKs. :)

Haha, I notice that. It is fixed now. Cut and past from Chronicle' list.

Go Texans!!!

Rey
09-03-2011, 04:58 PM
That is a lot of corners.

ChampionTexan
09-03-2011, 05:01 PM
Here's list who made it.

Offense (24)
Quarterbacks (3): Matt Schaub, Matt Leinart, T.J. Yates.
Running backs (4): Arian Foster, Derrick Ward, Ben Tate, Steve Slaton.
Fullbacks (2): James Casey, Lawrence Vickers.
Tight ends (3): Owen Daniels, Joel Dreessen, Garrett Graham.
Receivers (4): Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, Bryant Johnson.
Offensive linemen (8): Eric Winston, Duane Brown, Wade Smith, Mike Brisiel, Chris Myers, Rashad Butler, Antoine Caldwell, Derek Newton.

Defense (26)
Linemen (6): Antonio Smith, Shaun Cody, J.J. Watt, Earl Mitchell, Tim Jamison, Tim Bulman.
Linebackers (9): Mario Williams, Connor Barwin, DeMeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, Darryl Sharpton, Brooks Reed, Jesse Nading, Tim Dobbins, Bryan Braman.
Defensive backs (11): Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Jason Allen, Brice McCain, Sherrick McManis, Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael, Glover Quin, Danieal Manning, Troy Nolan, Dominique Barber.

Specialists (2)
Kicker (1): Neil Rackers.
Snapper (1): Jon Weeks.

Places (other than Punter) we may currently be a little light - OL (G/C), Receiver (Depends on if Kubiak and Dennison like any waiver wire players available)

Places we may currently be a little heavy - RB (although I think Slaton hangs around at least until Arian's hamstring issue is a little clearer - and that may be awhile), LB, CB (I predict fewer than 7 corners on the opening day roster).

TheMatrix31
09-03-2011, 05:04 PM
No punter now? Interesting.

DocBar
09-03-2011, 05:05 PM
No punter now? Interesting.It's gonna be James Casey...

Ryan
09-03-2011, 05:11 PM
It's gonna be James Casey...


Isn't he already occupied being our 5th string running back, starting fullback, 3rd string long snapper, slot receiver, 3rd string TE?


What if Weeks and Dreesen go down and he has to long snap the ball to himself?:kitten:

DocBar
09-03-2011, 05:12 PM
Isn't he already occupied being our 5th string running back, starting fullback, 3rd string long snapper, slot receiver, 3rd string TE?


What if Weeks and Dreesen go down and he has to long snap the ball to himself?:kitten:You gotta multitask to be on a Kubiak team.

prostock101
09-03-2011, 05:17 PM
For a punter.

I was expecting the 4 WR. Not shocked at all. We don't need anyone else. With the emergence of Casey, he is a WR, TE, FB all in one player. OD is your #2 WR for all intents and purposes, and Casey figures into that top 4 as well. Forget about labels, and think who is going to be thrown too. Then just throw a couple of these guys onto the PS for injury sake and for running scout team, and we are good to go. :texanbill:

I agree. I think that empty backfield we saw a bunch of in the 49'er game is gonna be da shizzle. Schauby will have no shortage of cats to throw to.

Lucky
09-03-2011, 05:33 PM
Who's the new Punter?
Punter? We don't need no stinkin' punter!

Maybe an extra kicker, as Rackers may need a breather from so many kickoffs.

FirstTexansFan
09-03-2011, 05:51 PM
Just a guess, but I believe we're probably going to waive two more DB's, and possibly one of the LB's. Adding four players off the wire... of course one being a punter. So what else do we fill? I'd think another WR would seem logical. Where else do you see holes?

SAMURAITEXAN
09-03-2011, 05:52 PM
Here's list who made it and IR.

Offense (24)
Quarterbacks (3): Matt Schaub, Matt Leinart, T.J. Yates.
Running backs (4): Arian Foster, Derrick Ward, Ben Tate, Steve Slaton.
Fullbacks (2): James Casey, Lawrence Vickers.
Tight ends (3): Owen Daniels, Joel Dreessen, Garrett Graham.
Receivers (4): Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter, Jacoby Jones, Bryant Johnson.
Offensive linemen (8): Eric Winston, Duane Brown, Wade Smith, Mike Brisiel, Chris Myers, Rashad Butler, Antoine Caldwell, Derek Newton.

Defense (26)
Linemen (6): Antonio Smith, Shaun Cody, J.J. Watt, Earl Mitchell, Tim Jamison, Tim Bulman.
Linebackers (9): Mario Williams, Connor Barwin, DeMeco Ryans, Brian Cushing, Darryl Sharpton, Brooks Reed, Jesse Nading, Tim Dobbins, Bryan Braman.
Defensive backs (11): Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, Jason Allen, Brice McCain, Sherrick McManis, Brandon Harris, Roc Carmichael, Glover Quin, Danieal Manning, Troy Nolan, Dominique Barber.

Specialists (2)
Kicker (1): Neil Rackers.
Snapper (1): Jon Weeks.

IR (5)
Receivers: Lestar Jean, Terrence Toliver
Offensive linemen: Shelley Smith, Kasey Studdard
Linebacker: Cheta Ozougwu

ObsiWan
09-03-2011, 05:54 PM
Punter? We don't need no stinkin' punter!

Maybe an extra kicker, as Rackers may need a breather from so many kickoffs.
Das whut I'm talkin' 'bout!
We win errygame 99-0

...now pass me some dat stuff you smokin'
:D

Lucky
09-03-2011, 06:00 PM
Only one backup interior lineman (Caldwell). And he's banged up.

HJam72
09-03-2011, 06:06 PM
Kubiak: Wait, we don't have a punter? :kubepalm:

Thorn
09-03-2011, 06:19 PM
Sorry to see Dickerson go, glad to see Braman made it. Life in the NFL goes on. I guess we'll find out in a few days who our punter is. I don't think they'll wait to long before bringing one or two in to try out.

The Pencil Neck
09-03-2011, 06:23 PM
There are some teams looking for RBs. We may be able to trade Slaton to those guys.

I'm not going to be surprised to see a couple of CBs dropped/IR'd or something.

I'm not comfy with 4 WRs or with our interior line situation.

We've got a bunch more moves to make.

ObsiWan
09-03-2011, 06:28 PM
There are some teams looking for RBs. We may be able to trade Slaton to those guys.

I'm not going to be surprised to see a couple of CBs dropped/IR'd or something.

I'm not comfy with 4 WRs or with our interior line situation.

We've got a bunch more moves to make.
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beerlover
09-03-2011, 06:40 PM
Texans should release Slaton, Vickers & Weeks. Then keep Holliday, Keo & Ogbonnaya. Otherwise its all good.

Rey
09-03-2011, 06:41 PM
Keo?

Really?

CloakNNNdagger
09-03-2011, 06:45 PM
Only one backup interior lineman (Caldwell). And he's banged up.

I wouldn't totally rely on a lineman with a high ankle sprain. That could affect him all season, even though but especially if he isn't allowed to rest it.

ObsiWan
09-03-2011, 06:47 PM
Who has info on this punter that the Steelers just released?

Sept. 03, 2011 4:42 p.m. (http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15522136) - by Chuck Finder - Kapinos loses out to Sepulveda despite long punts (http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/rapid-reports/post/15522136)
P Jeremy Kapinos (http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/rapid-reports/player/1232008/jeremy-kapinos), who replaced Daniel Sepulveda (http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/rapid-reports/player/420625/daniel-sepulveda) last season after Sepulveda sustained his third ACL injury in five years, kicked a pair of 63-yarders on Thursday, held for placements... and didnít win a job. Itís doubtful heíll be out of work for long. Sepulveda, meantime, needs better net yardage and health. Steelers RapidReports (http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/rapid-reports/team/PIT)

prostock101
09-03-2011, 06:59 PM
Texans should release Slaton, Vickers & Weeks. Then keep Holliday, Keo & Ogbonnaya. Otherwise its all good.

Really? Cut your LS? Kiddin' right?

Just saw that Rosencopter ended up on IR with a bad back. Do these guys that go on IR get full pay for the year?

CloakNNNdagger
09-03-2011, 07:05 PM
Who has info on this punter that the Steelers just released?

Found this draft profile: LINK (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/historical/1232008)

At least in college he had a heck of a leg...........a 78 yd punt against Ohio State. Inside 20 also very impressive.

Here's his NFL stats: LINK (http://www.nfl.com/player/jeremykapinos/2507310/profile)