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gwallaia
08-31-2011, 04:42 PM
With A&M leaving for the SEC, what does the future hold for the Big XII? Do they stay with their current members or look to expand?

With the Aggies departure, the Big XII will be down to 9 teams. I think they will expand, but will it be to 10 teams or 12 teams?

Who should get the invite?

You may select more than one from the poll.

Dutchrudder
08-31-2011, 04:46 PM
6) Dissolve.

This conference is toast. Time to shut down the party and let everyone scamper off.

gwallaia
08-31-2011, 04:49 PM
If Texas ultimately goes independent, the conference will dissolve.

Texan_Bill
08-31-2011, 07:29 PM
Greg, that's my thinking - that the Big XII will disolve. In fact, I can see a scenario where Conference USA might be more relevant than the Big XII.

I also see where there will be 4, maybe 5 power conferences (BCS conferences) of 12 to 16 teams. After that, the smaller conferences which wouldn't be BCS conferences i.e. Conference USA, WAC, etc would fall in line. At that point UT lands on their feet (hey, with $300m. of course they will).

This could ALL be good, because with the 4 to 5 "super Conferences" could lead us into a true playoff system.

While I digress, I can't help to wish things were the way they were 20 years ago!! SWC!! SWC!!! Thanks SMU (scandal) & Arkansas for bailing to the SEC. :gun:

Ole Miss Texan
09-01-2011, 09:41 AM
6) Dissolve.

This conference is toast. Time to shut down the party and let everyone scamper off.
It's just a matter of time. The conference is done.

Ranger Tom
09-01-2011, 12:52 PM
6) Dissolve.

This conference is toast. Time to shut down the party and let everyone scamper off.

Amen to that!

GlassHalfFull
09-01-2011, 12:58 PM
6) Dissolve.

This conference is toast. Time to shut down the party and let everyone scamper off.

I voted other. I really think the conference is history. There is some noise out there about Oklahoma moving to the Pac 12.

Mr. White
09-01-2011, 02:13 PM
I'd like to see UH and TCU go, but I doubt the Big 12 would see it that way.

If they want to stay together as a conference, then they're going to need to reel in a pretty big fish.

b0ng
09-01-2011, 02:26 PM
I'd like to see UH and TCU go, but I doubt the Big 12 would see it that way.

If they want to stay together as a conference, then they're going to need to reel in a pretty big fish.

TCU is in the Big East and just moved there. UH just doesn't offer enough for any AQ conference especially not one with 3 Texas schools already in it.

gwallaia
09-01-2011, 03:07 PM
A case for the University of Houston.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sportsmoney/2011/09/01/big-12-should-snap-up-the-university-of-houston/

Hervoyel
09-01-2011, 04:27 PM
With A&M leaving for the SEC, what does the future hold for the Big XII? Do they stay with their current members or look to expand?

With the Aggies departure, the Big XII will be down to 9 teams. I think they will expand, but will it be to 10 teams or 12 teams?

Who should get the invite?

You may select more than one from the poll.


What they should do is simple.

Add the best 9 teams of Conference USA and form two divisions.

The "Big 18" is born.

Stop laughing!

bah007
09-01-2011, 09:44 PM
BYU would seem to be the best option for the conference. They bring part of a market that the Big XII left when Colorado moved on, plus they have a national following.

It seems like the market for expansion is going to be TV. Houston and TCU don't add anything to the Big XII in that way.

BattleRedToro
09-01-2011, 09:58 PM
The real question is who leaves next?

Dutchrudder
09-01-2011, 10:31 PM
The real question is who leaves next?

Missouri.

BattleRedToro
09-01-2011, 10:39 PM
Missouri.

I was surprised that you named Missouri. That is exactly who I think will be next, but I expected other answers first.

Dutchrudder
09-01-2011, 10:43 PM
I was surprised that you named Missouri. That is exactly who I think will be next, but I expected other answers first.

They would have left last year if the Big 10 made an offer. I think they realize that their school would be better off in the Big 10 or SEC. They don't want to be in the Big 12, but they will stay until a better opportunity comes along.

BattleRedToro
09-01-2011, 10:51 PM
They would have left last year if the Big 10 made an offer. I think they realize that their school would be better off in the Big 10 or SEC. They don't want to be in the Big 12, but they will stay until a better opportunity comes along.

I think they prefer the Big Ten over the SEC, but I think they will take the first offer that they get.

Hookem Horns
09-01-2011, 11:19 PM
6) Dissolve.

This conference is toast. Time to shut down the party and let everyone scamper off.

I am on board with this. The Big XII is a joke and it is negatively affecting my Saturday afternoon fandom.

Corrosion
09-02-2011, 02:23 AM
This reminds me an awful lot of the breakup of the SWC without the scandal .... and that destroyed the conference. I really think the Big12 is toast .... I just dont know who lands where.


Texas likely Independent
Oklahoma to the Pac12 ? Really ? No .....
Ok St
Missouri
Baylor
Iowa St
Kansas
K State
Texas Tech


Someone tell me where each of these teams ends up. I could see Oklahoma in the SEC but not the Pac12. Ok ST maybe the Big Ten along with Missouri.

The rest of those teams are left hanging.

I have no clue how to fix it .... just dissolve college football and give those schollarships to students .... Make the NFL create its own minor leagues and fund it. :heh:

BattleRedToro
09-02-2011, 06:31 AM
I think Oklahoma and Oklahoma State will end up together, so that rules out the SEC. In my opinion they will end up in the PAC-16. If Texas goes independent, I think the PAC-16 will take Kansas over Texas Tech. If Texas and Texas Tech do go to the PAC-16 then Kansas will go to the Big Ten, with Missouri if the SEC doesn't move on Missouri first. In the end Iowa State, Kansas State, and Baylor will be left out.

This is going to be really interesting to watch.

Doppelganger
09-02-2011, 11:35 AM
This reminds me an awful lot of the breakup of the SWC without the scandal .... and that destroyed the conference. I really think the Big12 is toast .... I just dont know who lands where.


Texas likely Independent
Oklahoma to the Pac12 ? Really ? No .....
Ok St
Missouri
Baylor
Iowa St
Kansas
K State
Texas Tech

Someone tell me where each of these teams ends up. I could see Oklahoma in the SEC but not the Pac12. Ok ST maybe the Big Ten along with Missouri.

The rest of those teams are left hanging.

I have no clue how to fix it .... just dissolve college football and give those schollarships to students .... Make the NFL create its own minor leagues and fund it. :heh:

I think Oklahoma makes a move to the Pac 12. That kills the Big 12. Wherever Oklahoma goes, OSU follows. The Pac 14 does not work from a scheduling point of view, so if they expand from 12 they expand to 16 with 2 8 team divisions. Texas and Tech join the Pac 12 to create the Pac 16. The Longhorn Network becomes the Texas regional broadcast channel under the Pac umbrella. The Pac already has regional networks for some of their teams, so this could work.

This is the best case scenario for Oklahoma, OSU, Texas, and Tech. They get the safety of a big prosperous BCS bowl bid conference. They each (outside of Texas) can now look into a regional TV deal for them with a conference who is ok with it. The money is a little more evenly spread out than the Big 12.

This is the worst case scenario for Missouri, Baylor, Iowa St, Kansas, and K State. I could see Baylor, Iowa State, and Kansas State having to go to a Conference USA/Sun belt like division. If Kansas can sell the Big East on adding another basketball powerhouse, they may be able to get in there. Missouri may be Big X bound or with Conference USA/Sunbelt type conference.

b0ng
09-02-2011, 12:17 PM
I can't see Texas going independent with what looks to be superconferences forming. I'm willing to bet wherever OU goes, Texas would also look at very hard. I think any and every conference right now would take Texas too.

Good article gwailla.

BattleRedToro
09-02-2011, 12:51 PM
Missouri will not be left out. St. Louis is too big of a TV market to leave them out.

c10x
09-02-2011, 07:39 PM
At the moment, it looks like Texas wants OU to bolt for the Pac12, let the conference die, then Ok State, Tx Tech and Texas all bolt and form the first super conference in the Pac16. That's what I'm hoping for.

b0ng
09-02-2011, 08:27 PM
Heh. I'll laugh my ass off if UT pissed off everybody else with LHN so much that it dissolved the BigXII.

So does that mean they won't play stupid ol OU in a rivalry game if they happen to not land in the same conference?

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/09/02/ou-presidents-comments-cast-further-doubt-on-big-12s-future/related/

Speaking at the groundbreaking for a new student housing center, Oklahoma president David Boren said his university’s conference affiliation would likely be determined at some point between Monday and sometime around the middle of September. What he left open, and what further illustrates the uncertainty swirling around the Big 12, is exactly which conference the Sooners will be in when his personal “deadline” comes and goes.

“My experience is that, in these kinds of things, it might be a matter of 72 hours, it might be a matter of two weeks,” Boren said by way of Travis Haney of the Daily Oklahoman. “I don’t really think this is something that’s going to linger on beyond two or three weeks. …

“It’s too early yet to know exactly what the outcome will be. Our main responsibility will be protecting the interest of the University of Oklahoma, do what’s in the best long-term interest of the university and our athletics department and the fans. …

pbat488
09-02-2011, 11:13 PM
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