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DocBar
08-27-2011, 07:00 PM
Here's (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/live/NFL_20110827_JAC@BUF) a link to the Jag's 3rd PS game. This is when teams traditionally gameplan and play starters extensively. If this is an indication of the Jag's team, we should push Indy hard for the division title. If we can break even or go 3-1+ our 1st 4 games, the division could well be ours. I want my dream scenario to come true: Beat Pittsburgh for the AFC championship(denied to us Oiler fans in the 70's) and beat Dallas in the SB in Indy's stadium. That would slay a lot of NFL demons for me.
EDIT:Why did I say NFL championship? Someone spiked my koolaid!!

Showtime100
08-27-2011, 07:52 PM
Here's (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/live/NFL_20110827_JAC@BUF) a link to the Jag's 3rd PS game. This is when teams traditionally gameplan and play starters extensively. If this is an indication of the Jag's team, we should push Indy hard for the division title. If we can break even or go 3-1+ our 1st 4 games, the division could well be ours. I want my dream scenario to come true: Beat Pittsburgh for the NFL championship(denied to us Oiler fans in the 70's) and beat Dallas in the SB in Indy's stadium. That would slay a lot of NFL demons for me.

That part would make Letter Of The Month in the Penthouse Forum as far as I'm concerned. :D

badboy
08-27-2011, 09:48 PM
Pittsburgh is only team I am giving a win to as of now. No one else scares me. What if we lost to them in regular season and then beat them for championship. Think Bum would be pleased?

SAMURAITEXAN
08-27-2011, 10:09 PM
Pittsburgh is only team I am giving a win to as of now. No one else scares me. What if we lost to them in regular season and then beat them for championship. Think Bum would be pleased?

How sweet that would be badboy. I am old man and do not cry that often but, this will make me cry like a baby. However, I would prefer us to win both.

Go Texans!!!

El Tejano
08-27-2011, 10:35 PM
Here's (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/live/NFL_20110827_JAC@BUF) a link to the Jag's 3rd PS game. This is when teams traditionally gameplan and play starters extensively. If this is an indication of the Jag's team, we should push Indy hard for the division title. If we can break even or go 3-1+ our 1st 4 games, the division could well be ours. I want my dream scenario to come true: Beat Pittsburgh for the NFL championship(denied to us Oiler fans in the 70's) and beat Dallas in the SB in Indy's stadium. That would slay a lot of NFL demons for me.

And we play the Browns and Bengals this year just to take care of some old AFC Central business.

texanhead08
08-27-2011, 11:17 PM
This was a good performance but its still pre season so lets stay level headed about the game.

Hookem Horns
08-27-2011, 11:40 PM
Don't discount the Titans. There could still be some VY residue left on that field that could inspire that team to great heights.

Crushing56
08-28-2011, 02:59 AM
I'm pretty sure VY residue wouldnt help the titans at all... :vincepalm:

Corrosion
08-28-2011, 03:25 AM
Pittsburgh is only team I am giving a win to as of now. No one else scares me. What if we lost to them in regular season and then beat them for championship. Think Bum would be pleased?

Im not marking down a W for the Steelers in a home game for the Texans .... not by a longshot.
The Steelers OL isnt what it once was .... They are not particularly good either passing or rushing , 20th & 21st ranked in preseason stats.

They are also 30th in pass defense & 17th Vs the run ..... I just cant see them slowing down this offense.


I havent been impressed with them one bit.


The Aints and Ravens on the road .... different story.

I could easily see them going 14-2 .... call me crazy.

ObsiWan
08-28-2011, 07:05 AM
Im not marking down a W for the Steelers in a home game for the Texans .... not by a longshot.
The Steelers OL isnt what it once was .... They are not particularly good either passing or rushing , 20th & 21st ranked in preseason stats.

They are also 30th in pass defense & 17th Vs the run ..... I just cant see them slowing down this offense.


I havent been impressed with them one bit.


The Aints and Ravens on the road .... different story.

I could easily see them going 14-2 .... call me crazy.

Put.
the Koolade.
Down.

you've had too much...
:D

Lucky
08-28-2011, 09:47 AM
Don't discount the Titans. There could still be some VY residue left on that field that could inspire that team to great heights.

I'm pretty sure VY residue wouldnt help the titans at all... :vincepalm:

Hookem's post was http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee242/only_bucket/dripping.png.

gafftop
08-28-2011, 10:02 AM
Let's start with beating the Colts. This team (Texans) has a tendency to get the big head and lose games they should win. I see no reason for this ever to happen because the Texans never have done anything. DO NOT DISCOUNT THE COLTS. Remember the Jets and Jags in 2009 just to name a couple. Hopefully they are mroe mature now and more professional and will take care of business. The Colts are not going to lay down in the first game with or without Manning. Kubiak needs to make sure the players understand this. Don't wait until the season is basically over before trying to make sure the players understand the importance of every game. I agree though this is our best shot to date.

DocBar
08-28-2011, 10:07 AM
Let's start with beating the Colts. This team (Texans) has a tendency to get the big head and lose games they should win. I see no reason for this ever to happen because the Texans never have done anything. DO NOT DISCOUNT THE COLTS. Remember the Jets and Jags in 2009 just to name a couple. Hopefully they are mroe mature now and more professional and will take care of business. The Colts are not going to lay down in the first game with or without Manning. Kubiak needs to make sure the players understand this. Don't wait until the season is basically over before trying to make sure the players understand the importance of every game. I agree though this is our best shot to date.If Manning misses significant time this season, I think you can pretty much discount the Colts. They aren't a 5 win team without him.
What am I supposed to remember about the Jets and Jags from '09?
If the Colts are Manning-less on Sept. 11, that game will look more like last night's game than anything else.

Lucky
08-28-2011, 10:10 AM
What am I supposed to remember about the Jets and Jags from '09?

That the Texans took the field at Reliant flatter than a pancake.

DocBar
08-28-2011, 10:13 AM
That the Texans took the field at Reliant flatter than a pancake.AHHH...I see said the blind man.

ThaJokaa
08-28-2011, 11:33 AM
I would want Houston and Indy playing for the AFC championship, that way we can deny them playing the SB at home.

GuerillaBlack
08-28-2011, 11:39 AM
I would want Houston and Indy playing for the AFC championship, that way we can deny them playing the SB at home.

No way Indy makes it in as a wildcard though.

The Pencil Neck
08-28-2011, 12:00 PM
In this last preseason game, Painter looked like he started to finally get it together. And of course, there's Manning, so the Colts worry me.

The Jags always play us hard. So they worry me.

And although I think the Titans are in for a rough year, I watched the first half of the Titans game against the Bears. Hasselbeck is still a damned good QB. If any of his wide receivers actually catch a ball, they're going to be a dangerous team.

I've got pretty high hopes for this year, though.

IDEXAN
08-28-2011, 12:01 PM
No way Indy makes it in as a wildcard though.

Agreed because the South is apparently now the weakest division in the AFC, thankfully. So only the division winner goes post-season, and perhaps with a
9-7 or even 8-8 record IMO.

thunderkyss
08-28-2011, 12:45 PM
Pittsburgh is only team I am giving a win to as of now. No one else scares me. What if we lost to them in regular season and then beat them for championship. Think Bum would be pleased?

I understand where Oiler fans are coming from.

But the Steelers have no idea we even exist.

Allstar
08-28-2011, 12:52 PM
I understand where Oiler fans are coming from.

But the Steelers have no idea we even exist.

Hope that changes in week 4 :brando:

MEGA SWATT
08-28-2011, 05:32 PM
Hope that changes in week 4 :brando:

:brando:

Corrosion
08-28-2011, 09:30 PM
Put.
the Koolade.
Down.

you've had too much...
:D

Week 6 @ M&T Bank Stadium will be a preview of the AFC Championship game. :peek:

DocBar
08-28-2011, 09:38 PM
Week 6 @ M&T Bank Stadium will be a preview of the AFC Championship game. :peek:That would crap on my little fantasy.

BattleRedToro
08-28-2011, 10:08 PM
I understand where Oiler fans are coming from.

But the Steelers have no idea we even exist.

They know the Texans exit. You can be sure of that. The Texans set an all time record in Pittsburgh back in 2002.

Corrosion
08-28-2011, 10:20 PM
They know the Texans exit. You can be sure of that. The Texans set an all time record in Pittsburgh back in 2002.

....... 46 yards. :kitten:

Corrosion
08-29-2011, 02:00 PM
That would crap on my little fantasy.

Sorry to rain on your parade .... I'd love to see a "Houston Team" deny the Steelers in an AFC Championship just as much as you ..... being an Oilers fan for most of my life ..... But I think the two best teams in the division are The Ravens and Texans.

Both have offenses capable of dropping 35 on anyone , both are very balanced with good backs , recievers and QB's.
The Ravens defense has been good historically and the Texans improved secondary and pass rush they could be just as good ..... I dont see another team with the offensive firepower and a defense to go with it in the AFC.


AFC East -

NE - One dimensional offensively , medicore defensively
NYJ - Real good defense but they arent going to score much.
Mia - Not as good as the Jets defensively and probably worse offensively.
Buf- Just plain bad.

AFC North -

Balt - Solid on both sides of the ball
Pitt - Big Ben and a declining OL and an aging Hines Ward. Defense is still solid.
Cle - They could surprise some people but not much of a threat to sniff the playoffs.
Cincy - Its gonna be a long season for them ....


AFC South

Hou - Great offense , improved defense.
Dolts - Great QB , no running game and a defense that a pop warner team could run against.
Jax - Solid defense , good running game and Gerrard is under rated , just dont see them being able to score with the big boys.
Tenn - Can the trailer park boys win one game ?

AFC West

SD - 3rd best team in the AFC. Running game suspect. Defense solid.
KC - QB OverRated - Good running game , respectable defense.
Ok - Is this a track team or a football team ?
Den - Defense looks Ok .... QB controversy (entering camp) with Tebow involved ? Ok .....


Division winners -

New England
Baltimore
Houston
San Diego

Wild card teams

NYJ
Pittsburgh

Dread-Head
08-29-2011, 02:06 PM
It's ON!mother trucker! It's on!

Norg
08-29-2011, 02:18 PM
Jags were tough last year they got alot of good young talent IMO

i'd except them to be tough again this year

and dont be fooled Gabbert will not be playing it will be Davids job

Corrosion
08-29-2011, 02:38 PM
Jags were tough last year they got alot of good young talent IMO

i'd except them to be tough again this year

and dont be fooled Gabbert will not be playing it will be Davids job

I definately dont expect the Jaq's to roll over .... They have a solid ground game and an improved defense .... and I really like Gerrard as a QB , really under rated , he's a tough bastard too. I just dont think he has the tools around him to score enough to compete with the likes of SD , Hou , Balt , NE and the Dolts if Peyton is playing.

houstonspartan
08-29-2011, 02:40 PM
Jags were tough last year they got alot of good young talent IMO

i'd except them to be tough again this year

and dont be fooled Gabbert will not be playing it will be Davids job

Jacksonville is coached by a man who would eat his own mamma for lunch in order to win a game. Jack DelRio is a street fighter. Do no underestimate him or the Jags. We do it every year and almost every year they punch us in the mouth.

Norg
08-29-2011, 02:54 PM
I definately dont expect the Jaq's to roll over .... They have a solid ground game and an improved defense .... and I really like Gerrard as a QB , really under rated , he's a tough bastard too. I just dont think he has the tools around him to score enough to compete with the likes of SD , Hou , Balt , NE and the Dolts if Peyton is playing.

OT but the bills are killing the Jags right now like 17-0

U said the bills will be 4th IMO they have a chance to be 2nd in the divison

IMO like the guy said on espn the Jets R just "DUsty" there O gots alot of old dusty players LOL

ObsiWan
08-29-2011, 04:22 PM
Don't discount the Titans. There could still be some VY residue left on that field that could inspire that team to great heights.

you could be right...

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If it would rain around here I'd get some for my lawn
:D

DocBar
08-29-2011, 05:22 PM
I definately dont expect the Jaq's to roll over .... They have a solid ground game and an improved defense .... and I really like Gerrard as a QB , really under rated , he's a tough bastard too. I just dont think he has the tools around him to score enough to compete with the likes of SD , Hou , Balt , NE and the Dolts if Peyton is playing.The Jags have MJD and HE is a tough little bastard. Gerrard can get hot and absolutely torch a team or several. I just don;t think he'll do it to us this year and I'm not sold on MJD this year. Knee problems and the such.

Perki-Perk
08-30-2011, 09:18 AM
Sorry to rain on your parade .... I'd love to see a "Houston Team" deny the Steelers in an AFC Championship just as much as you ..... being an Oilers fan for most of my life ..... But I think the two best teams in the division are The Ravens and Texans.

Both have offenses capable of dropping 35 on anyone , both are very balanced with good backs , recievers and QB's.
The Ravens defense has been good historically and the Texans improved secondary and pass rush they could be just as good ..... I dont see another team with the offensive firepower and a defense to go with it in the AFC.


AFC East -

NE - One dimensional offensively , medicore defensively
NYJ - Real good defense but they arent going to score much.
Mia - Not as good as the Jets defensively and probably worse offensively.
Buf- Just plain bad.

AFC North -

Balt - Solid on both sides of the ball
Pitt - Big Ben and a declining OL and an aging Hines Ward. Defense is still solid.
Cle - They could surprise some people but not much of a threat to sniff the playoffs.
Cincy - Its gonna be a long season for them ....


AFC South

Hou - Great offense , improved defense.
Dolts - Great QB , no running game and a defense that a pop warner team could run against.
Jax - Solid defense , good running game and Gerrard is under rated , just dont see them being able to score with the big boys.
Tenn - Can the trailer park boys win one game ?

AFC West

SD - 3rd best team in the AFC. Running game suspect. Defense solid.
KC - QB OverRated - Good running game , respectable defense.
Ok - Is this a track team or a football team ?
Den - Defense looks Ok .... QB controversy (entering camp) with Tebow involved ? Ok .....


Division winners -

New England
Baltimore
Houston
San Diego

Wild card teams

NYJ
Pittsburgh

Well...I guess we don't disagree on everythiing. In the end, we are all Texans fans!!

DocBar
09-03-2011, 03:03 PM
Houston -- Talk about a leap. The Texans haven't been to the playoffs before. Heck, they broke .500 only once, and that was 9-7. Now they take care of both, reaching the playoffs by winning the AFC South. You heard me: Winning the AFC South. Two reasons: 1) Peyton Manning's injury guarantees the Colts go backward and 2) Wade Phillips. I'll be honest, I liked these guys before Manning was hurt. What held them back a year ago was the world's worst passing defense, and that's a problem if you're chasing Manning. Enter Phillips. When he took over as defensive coordinator in San Diego before 2004, the Chargers ranked 31st in defense; a year later, they were 11th. A year later, they were also AFC West champions. Phillips will make a difference, and so will smart additions to his defense -- like defensive backs Johnathan Joseph and Danieal Manning and rookies like J.J. Watt, Brooks Reed and Brandon Harris. Houston could always score; it just couldn't stop anyone, with opponents putting up 24 or more points in all but two games last year. That must change. Phillips' arrival guarantees that it will.

Potential land mine: An injury to quarterback Matt Schaub. Without him, they're left with Matt Leinart. Draw your own conclusions. That hamstring problem with running back Arian Foster is a red flag, too. Darrelle Revis experienced the same setback last season after missing training camp, and it took him a couple of months to recover.LINK (http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/story/15506970)

Carr Bombed
09-03-2011, 03:46 PM
Jacksonville is coached by a man who would eat his own mamma for lunch in order to win a game. Jack DelRio is a street fighter. Do no underestimate him or the Jags. We do it every year and almost every year they punch us in the mouth.

LMAO, when have the Jags ever "punched us in the mouth"? It took a freak hail mary play for them to avoid a sweep last season.

thunderkyss
09-03-2011, 03:50 PM
LMAO, when have the Jags ever "punched us in the mouth"? It took a freak hail mary play for them to avoid a sweep last season.

Felt like a kick to the groin when MJD iced that game to sweep us in 2009 (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2009120605/2009/REG13/texans@jaguars#menu=gamepass&tab=recap)

Carr Bombed
09-03-2011, 03:52 PM
I definately dont expect the Jaq's to roll over .... They have a solid ground game and an improved defense .... and I really like Gerrard as a QB , really under rated , he's a tough bastard too. I just dont think he has the tools around him to score enough to compete with the likes of SD , Hou , Balt , NE and the Dolts if Peyton is playing.

David Garrard is not underrated. He's rated right where he should be which is not a very good starting NFL QB.

Go over to the Jags board and read the criticism his own fans write about him. He has severe accuracy issues at time, he doesn't progress through his reads and is captain check down, and he also ends up sacking himself at times. Gee almost sounds like another guy who played here. The man is not consistent at all. He can play great one week and then serve up a big steaming pile the next few weeks, he's not consistent.

There's a reason why the Jags traded up and drafted a QB #1 this year.....David Garrard is not that good.

DocBar
09-03-2011, 03:54 PM
David Garrard is not underrated. He's rated right where he should be which is not a very good starting NFL QB.

Go over to the Jags board and read the criticism his own fans write about him. He has severe accuracy issues at time, he doesn't progress through his reads and is captain check down, and he also ends up sacking himself at time. Gee almost sounds like another guy who played here. The man is not consistent at all. He can play great one week and then serve up a big steaming pile the next few weeks, he's not consistent.There's a reason why the Jags traded up and drafted a QB #1 this year.....David Garrard is not that good.I don't think Garrard is an overall good QB, but he can get hot and do a good job.

Carr Bombed
09-03-2011, 03:58 PM
Felt like a kick to the groin when MJD iced that game in 2009

I'm sure not as bad as they felt when we knocked them out of the playoffs in their house, infront of a crowd of a couple of dozen fans on Christmas.

Or last year when we steam rolled through, around, and over them. Houston has done more punching to the mouth than Jacksonville has. When they beat us, it's usually always a tough close loss. They haven't really shown the ability to "molly whop" us, like we've shown the ability to do to them.

I'm not scared of the Jags or the Titans....we just need to get past the Colts.

Carr Bombed
09-03-2011, 04:00 PM
I don't think Garrard is an overall good QB, but he can get hot and do a good job.

Yes and then he can cool off a play like crap.. Again it goes back to consistency and he lacks it, which is why they're looking to replace him and why the fans there are completely done with him. The only thing David Garrard is going to do next season is take a god awful amount of abuse behind the worst line in this division (and one of the poorer ones in the NFL), while the rookie learns his craft.

DocBar
09-03-2011, 04:04 PM
Yes and then he can cool off a play like crap.. Again it goes back to consistency and he lacks it, which is why they're looking to replace him and why the fans there are completely done with him. The only thing David Garrard is going to do next season is take a god awful amount of abuse behind the worst line in this division (and one of the poorer ones in the NFL), while the rookie learns his craft.I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. I'm not going to look past them just because he's the QB. Division games can bring out the best in players. Or worst.

Carr Bombed
09-03-2011, 04:07 PM
I wasn't disagreeing with you at all. I'm not going to look past them just because he's the QB. Division games can bring out the best in players. Or worst.

I'm not looking past them, because he's their QB. I just don't think he's underrated. If anything he's been overrated in the media. The reason why I don't fear the Jags is because I don't think they have a very good "TEAM". They lack depth and they have poor line play on both sides of the ball.

Norg
09-04-2011, 12:07 AM
we might sweep the titans

I dont think we are going to sweep the Jags IMO

Corrosion
09-04-2011, 01:17 PM
That Colts defense is .... BAD. They couldnt stop a pop warner team from running it all over them. Can Peyton play defense ?! :texanbill:

DocBar
09-04-2011, 08:17 PM
Here's (http://www.cbssports.com/#!/nfl/story/15527769/season-preview-2011-texans) Pat Kirwin's take on the AFC South: Texans win the division, Manning or no Manning and Colts WC.

Corrosion
09-12-2011, 02:25 AM
Im not marking down a W for the Steelers in a home game for the Texans .... not by a longshot.
The Steelers OL isnt what it once was .... They are not particularly good either passing or rushing , 20th & 21st ranked in preseason stats.

They are also 30th in pass defense & 17th Vs the run ..... I just cant see them slowing down this offense.


I havent been impressed with them one bit.


The Aints and Ravens on the road .... different story.


Still want to mark that Steelers game down as a L for the Texans ?


They arent who you thought they were ..... but the Ravens are who you thought the Steelers were .... And the Texans might be too ....