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BullsOnParade
08-16-2011, 04:49 PM
Anyone else get a chance to listen to this? What happened to Cheta Ozougwu and Derrick Ward?

I caught it late.

TexanSam
08-16-2011, 05:01 PM
Looks like Ward suffered a head injury. Says he'll be fine though.

http://blog.chron.com/ultimateastros/2011/08/16/nfl-rule-kept-texans-rb-ward-from-talking-to-media/


A new NFL rule was collectively bargained to further protect players who’ve suffered head injuries.

During the Monday night preseason game against the New York Jets at Reliant Stadium, Texans running back Derrick Ward left the game after suffering a head injury during the first quarter. He did not return to the game but was available to talk in the locker room after the 20-16 Texans victory.

Ward now joins the growing group of injured running backs – Arian Foster, Steve Slaton and Ben Tate, who are all suffering hamstring injuries.

Ward and the Houston media in the locker room were reminded of the new rule, and he was unable to answer questions.

Once Ward or any player with a head injury is cleared medically, he’ll be able to discuss the concussion as well as the injury problems the running backs have experienced in recent weeks.

In an early-Tuesday-morning message via Twitter, Ward gave his own update:

“Good morning everyone. Just so u all know I’m fine and will be back at practice tomorrow. Thanks for the well wishes! We looked great!!!”

BullsOnParade
08-16-2011, 05:05 PM
Caught a recap. Cheta spent the night in the hospital because of a concussion.

You can listen to it here.

http://t.co/tyqrzWd

mussop
08-16-2011, 09:48 PM
Did anyone else think that tackle should of drawn a flag?

thunderkyss
08-16-2011, 10:16 PM
Did anyone else think that tackle should of drawn a flag?

I don't know about a flag... as long as they call the game consistently then I don't have a problem with it.

If the NFL is really worried about player's health, then it should be fined.

ObsiWan
08-17-2011, 01:39 AM
Did anyone else think that tackle should of drawn a flag?

Ward was pretty close to out of bounds when he got hit.

Wolf6151
08-17-2011, 02:06 AM
I don't have a link but I was listening to 610 am this evening and they replayed part of a Kubiak press conference and in his own way he called out Tate. Kubiak stated that he hoped that Tate was going to play Monday but apparently the injury was taking longer to heal than he felt it should and hoped Tate would be ready for the N.O. game. In coach speak this is calling out a player. Did anyone else hear this?

Kubiak also stated that he was impressed with Braman, Reed, and Jean, and that they would all get extra reps. this week in practice.

Malloy
08-17-2011, 02:07 AM
Bad luck in my view.

Allstar
08-17-2011, 02:48 AM
Ward was pretty close to out of bounds when he got hit.

He was trying to get past the first down line. The defender wanted to make sure it didn't happen. Helmet hit helmet, but it was close and I don't think it deserved any penalty.

CloakNNNdagger
08-17-2011, 08:23 AM
He was trying to get past the first down line. The defender wanted to make sure it didn't happen. Helmet hit helmet, but it was close and I don't think it deserved any penalty.

I did not tape the game for review, but, at the game, I was pretty close and in line of sight of the play. I saw no helmet-to-helmet hit. Ward hit the ground head/face first with his head snapping back. Also, Ward appeared to have one foot already out of bounds when he was hit.

thunderkyss
08-17-2011, 10:13 AM
I saw the same thing All-Star did. I thought there was going to be a flag.

I think it was as bad as anything Harrison had ever done.

76Texan
08-17-2011, 11:23 AM
It wasn't anywhere near the worse hit we've seen.
With the new rule in place, however, I think a call should have been made.

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/76Texan/PS%201%20Jets/Wards%2011yd%20run%20%20Concussion/vlcsnap-1636574.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/76Texan/PS%201%20Jets/Wards%2011yd%20run%20%20Concussion/vlcsnap-1636580.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/76Texan/PS%201%20Jets/Wards%2011yd%20run%20%20Concussion/vlcsnap-1636585.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/76Texan/PS%201%20Jets/Wards%2011yd%20run%20%20Concussion/vlcsnap-1637639.jpg

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/76Texan/PS%201%20Jets/Wards%2011yd%20run%20%20Concussion/vlcsnap-1637642.jpg


http://s1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/76Texan/PS%201%20Jets/Wards%2011yd%20run%20%20Concussion/

Rey
08-17-2011, 11:32 AM
I don't think the rules apply to RB's running the ball.

Not sure how you can flag that when Ward clearly lowered his head a bit leading into the contact. And I was at the game and it seemed to me that the hit was not as much of a factor as the defender driving his head into the ground.

76Texan
08-17-2011, 11:58 AM
I don't think the rules apply to RB's running the ball.

Not sure how you can flag that when Ward clearly lowered his head a bit leading into the contact. And I was at the game and it seemed to me that the hit was not as much of a factor as the defender driving his head into the ground.



" using any part of a player's helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/hairline parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily against any opponent".

The replay shows that Ward only lowered his head to brace for contact with both hands protecting the ball (defenseless).

He went into the ground on his chest/shoulder in a sliding motion (chest first, then shoulder later as the defender helps rolled him over a bit.)
His head never touched the ground until his momentum had stopped.

It wasn't an overtly violent act by the densive player, but you can certainly feel the impact of the helmet to helmet collision.
The concussion resulted from this hit.

Rey
08-17-2011, 12:04 PM
" using any part of a player's helmet (including the top/crown and forehead/hairline parts) or facemask to butt, spear, or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily against any opponent".

The replay shows that Ward only lowered his head to brace for contact with both hands protecting the ball (defenseless).

He went into the ground on his chest in a sliding motion.
His head never touched the ground until his momentum had stopped.

It wasn't an overtly violent act by the densive player, but you can certainly feel the impact of the helmet to helmet collision.
The concussion resulted from this hit.

OK 76.

I agree to disagree. No biggee.

76Texan
08-17-2011, 12:21 PM
I didn't have the end of the play, so here it is.
I can't see how Ward can hit his head on the ground hard enough to cause a concussion as his chest and his left shoulder absorbed the fall.

http://s1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/76Texan/PS%201%20Jets/Wards%2011yd%20run%20%20Concussion/222/

CloakNNNdagger
08-17-2011, 02:40 PM
I didn't have the end of the play, so here it is.
I can't see how Ward can hit his head on the ground hard enough to cause a concussion as his chest and his left shoulder absorbed the fall.

http://s1217.photobucket.com/albums/dd384/76Texan/PS%201%20Jets/Wards%2011yd%20run%20%20Concussion/222/


Slide 12 obstructed (by sideline personel) the most important view of what actually happened with his head. I had an unobstructed view at the game looking straight down the sideline. His facemask/head hit before his shoulder and chest, further driven forward and down by inertia of the defensive player. Ward's neck snapped back as his chest and shoulder hit with the force of the weight of the defender coming down on his upper back.

Rey
08-17-2011, 03:11 PM
Slide 12 obstructed (by sideline personel) the most important view of what actually happened with his head. I had an unobstructed view at the game looking straight down the sideline. His facemask/head hit before his shoulder and chest, further driven forward and down by inertia of the defensive player. Ward's neck snapped back as his chest and shoulder hit with the force of the weight of the defender coming down on his upper back.

I didn't have the best view of it at the game, but I thought that's what I saw too.